Just found your channel a couple days ago and have been watching a lot of the other fruit wine videos. They are excellent - thanks for taking the time and sharing your tips
Thank you so much and i have so much more planned. Stay tuned and thanks for watching the channel. 😁😁👍👍♥️♥️ Also check out my other channel about travel and please subscribe th-cam.com/users/AlongForTheJourney
One tip I personally have is you should put your water in first when titrating chemicals. Even if starsan is relatively harmless when mixed you should always try to prevent splashing back solutions when working with chemicals. Other than that I did get some info out of this. Thank you!
Perfect video but i have a very important question for you. Is star san HB the same ? Its still made from five star but it says to use water afterwards and let dry. Plz plz plz i need to know because its compleatly impossible to get the star san you have in the video where i live.
Never heard of that... but watch my dragon fruit video sodium metabisulfite can be used as a sanitizer too. Or my wine additives around the world video I show you alternatives for star san👍👍 th-cam.com/video/a_nadvqSR5E/w-d-xo.html
Hello, my name is Bill Gonzales, the wine supply company suggested I use the 10-star sanitizer made by Fiive Star. I live in the country and have a septic system. I can't get Star Scan delivered to my home in Washington State. I had to go to a wine making company. Thank you, have a Blessed Day.
Good show! I read somewhere that diluted Star San has a shelf life of 2-3 weeks. I don’t know if this is true, however I made a 5 gallon batch before reading that and will never come close to using that much in that amount of time. Guess I’ll have super sanitized kitchen and baths for a couple weeks.
I use it diluted correctly should last 4 to 8 weeks in a sealed spray bottle out of sunlight 1.2 to 1.25 ml per 32 ounce spray bottle then add enough distilled H2O to fill the spray bottle. I don't rinse just let the foam bubbles drip out after 10 to 15 minutes. It does contain acidic phosphates to kill bacteria and other microbes. If you are phosphate sensitive could react with you.
After you sanitize, how do you keep it sanitary until you use it? Can fermenter bucket and carboys simply be covered after sanitizing? How long does it stay sanitary? Thank you
Just getting ready for my first attempt at wine making. I note you are sanitizing your carboy's etc. Given initial fermentation is about 2 weeks, are you sanitizing again before racking, or this sanitization two weeks before racking is sufficient? Just want to confirm
Always sanitize when using your equipment. Sanitize it before contact with your wine. You will prevent many problems. You are going to be a professional very soon. 🍷🍷
I will subscribe....one question, after making wine, I rinse everything with hot water and plan to sanitize with starsan and put equipment away. Then when I make wine again I will starsan everything first and make wine. Is this enough cleaning with the hot water rinse? What do you do? Thanks.
Thanks for this… I still get weirded out and rinse the foam haha i know that’s not the correct way but have you looked at toxicity of other chemicals added to wine like Camden tablets? Just curious.. I’m trying to make wine using least chemicals
I'm with you on the foam. Seems like it should be rinsed but every time I do it in camera someone calls me out on it. Lol. Some of the additives are natural and safe and I limit these down when possible. But the Campden tablets are for bacteria control and always better safe than sorry. Pasteurization of your wine is a way around that but will lose flavor and not good for your wine in general. Store bought wine has so many more additives so already homemade wine we are ahead of the game. That's how I look at it. 👍👍🍷🍷
You should ONLY rinse it off if you aren't planning on using the equipment immediately and if that is the case you should be using something else.... It says right on the instructions "DO NOT RINSE".... This is because the StarSan is meant to be a protective shield against microbials in the short period that the equipment/container remains wet.
I'll keep it up to a month mixed. But you will get different opinions on that. That's just what i do. If your ph is below 3 it is still effective but i don't Get that technical because I'm constantly mixing new batch. 3 to 4 weeks is good once mixed
i love the fact to spray and leave a mist for extra sanitation but, is there a link to buy a lesser amount? any ideas for beginners to be efficient, but not having to sink soo money in the first batch? thanks:)
Get used wine bottles from bar or friends. Thats a huge savings. Buy used carboys at yard sales or online. This video will give you more tips and tricks. th-cam.com/video/a_nadvqSR5E/w-d-xo.html
@@HowToDoneRightThere may be a question to star san stability once diluted and exposed to light, or when tap water is used. Google star san stability for more info.
It will last 7 to 10 days usually. I usually just mix small batches each time because as you sanitize equipment , water will get dirty. Great question👍👍
@@HowToDoneRight Thanks for responding so quickly. I’ve never made wine before but purchased all of the necessary equipment and have fruit, cider and jam on hand so want to get started. This is the best video I’ve found on sanitizing. Everything is easy to do if you know how to do it. Thanks again ♥️🇨🇦
How long can you keep the sanitizer in the bucket for? Can you leave it in there and re-use it to sanitize tools like your mixing paddle everyday during the primary fermentation stage for example? Or do you have to empty it and remix a new batch after every use?
@@HowToDoneRight Thanks. I'm following your 30 day pineapple wine recipe and adding a twist to it. I'm gunna modify the finishing stage a bit and follow advice from another recipe to make it a sparkling wine instead.
Here's another thought... bottle half as just wine... be sure to backsweeten.... then sparkle the rest... this wine one first place as pinapple wine. th-cam.com/video/0Z0ZH03CP4E/w-d-xo.html Keep me posted.
My bottle doesn’t allow me to use the small measuring side. Air comes out of both tops when I squeeze the bottle. Even tried using my hand to cover it. Bottle came soaked in itself and I’m not sure how to properly measure without using the measuring side. Any ideas?
@@HowToDoneRight yeah it still comes up borth sides. I even tried putting a cloth (extra thick to not eat the stuff) on one of the holes and tried blowing it up into the other side and it did NOTHING. P.s. thank you for your fast response :)
Their directions say every surface part must be in contact for 2 minutes. It is impossible to achieve that by swirling it. Only was is to completely submerge so it hits all surface parts. That would require a huge tank and lots of water.
Gut microbiome won't like starsan being put inside the tummy. It doesn't dig chlorine stuffs or fluoride or antibiotics. I understand why you used to try to rinse most of the sanitizer off. Do you do natural ferments with just / only fruit and honey to make mead / wine very much? Thank you for showing your hobby. I would like to drink a glass or mug every other night or so but now it is espoused to not be that healthy as opposed to when the word was to drink a glass of red wine a day. I don't drink any sugary drinks as it stands.
star san does not contain any chlorine, fluoride, or antibiotics in it. it is a biodegradable food grade sanitizer that does not need to be rinsed. rinsing defeats the entire purpose of sanitizing. if you rinse or dry with a towel after sanitizing, you risk reintroducing germs. that's exactly why this is preferable to bleach, which has to be _precisely_ diluted to a PPM that is strong enough to sanitize AND not so strong that it requires a rinse before you can prep food.
@@studentism rinsing with clean filtered water is not an issue. Starsan will definitely have an impact on gut microbiome. But it's not like anyone would advertise that. And alcohol drinkers aren't going to care too much about their gut microbiome anyway by and large.
@@AngelPrissy 1) i don't want to get really into the weeds regarding what you consider "clean filtered water" vs distilled (which is what you'd want to be using in this application, isn't economical at scale, and for a home brewer would just generate tons of unnecessary plastic waste) 2) if you insist on rinsing, you should just use bleach. it's absurdly cheaper, and there's no advantage to buying this product if you're going to rinse after sterilizing. 3) i simply cannot understand why you'd want to run *any* risk of contamination when bottling something you're going to give away to friends + family, or even worse, sell to complete strangers
According to Star San's material safty data sheet (MSDS) says 50% of the product is "phosphoric acid 75% concentrate added to solution". I'm guessing which when further mixed to manufacture recommendation (1 ounce to 5 gallons) is probably about as safe as the food grade phosphoric acid that's added to Coca-Cola to make it tart tasting, but it still slowly erodes the enamle off our teath. The GHS-US classifies phosphoric acid as skin corrosive 1b which is fairly low. But, the MSDS also says 15% of star san is dodecylbenzenesulphonic acid. It is added to make star san foam, but the GHS-US classifications for this ingredient are: accute oral toxicity level 4, low 1a skin corrosion, and aquatic acute level 2. It seems this chemical isn't very stable and may break down from photolysys, minerals in tap water, and too high of ph. The very very very thin film of diluted star san is safe when used appropriately to sanitize equipment and left to dry. And while i'll drink a can of Coca-Cola, I would STRONGLY recomend NEVER drinking star san even if it is diluted to 1oz star san per 5 gallons of water. But that's just my opinion.
Newbie here! Love your work, thank you! Do you just use left over water to fill squirt bottles for using throughout the fermentation process or mix up a new batch? We are about to encounter berry season in the Midwest around June so I’m super excited to learn this hobby. I love visiting vineyards around Mn WI & can’t wait to start my own soon. Cheers 🍷
Welcome to the channel. As you watch other videos you will see I fill water bottles up first with sanitizer. It will last about 2 weeks. Once you have homemade wine you will never buy again. 👍👍😁😁🍷🍷
How long can you keep the sanitizer in the bucket for? Can you leave it in there and re-use it to sanitize tools like your mixing paddle everyday during the primary fermentation stage for example? Or do you have to empty it and remix a new batch after every use?
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Your humility to admit you were wrong is very refreshing! Thanks for this video.
Thanks
Thank you! I had my own doubt and had no idea how to properly apply (I thought I should rinse after) very helpful!
Finally a video on how to use Starsan 👍👍
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@@HowToDoneRight I have the Starsan and now so I can clean up the things I have to start making rice wine for the first time thank you so much👏👏👏👏
Just found your channel a couple days ago and have been watching a lot of the other fruit wine videos. They are excellent - thanks for taking the time and sharing your tips
Thank you so much and i have so much more planned. Stay tuned and thanks for watching the channel. 😁😁👍👍♥️♥️ Also check out my other channel about travel and please subscribe
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I agree. Good tutorials! Keep em coming. Im going to try the pineapple one.
Do the mesh bags get reused or thrown away?
@@vbnautical5041 reused
Rinse sanitize and reuse
One tip I personally have is you should put your water in first when titrating chemicals. Even if starsan is relatively harmless when mixed you should always try to prevent splashing back solutions when working with chemicals. Other than that I did get some info out of this. Thank you!
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Perfect video but i have a very important question for you.
Is star san HB the same ? Its still made from five star but it says to use water afterwards and let dry. Plz plz plz i need to know because its compleatly impossible to get the star san you have in the video where i live.
Never heard of that... but watch my dragon fruit video sodium metabisulfite can be used as a sanitizer too. Or my wine additives around the world video I show you alternatives for star san👍👍 th-cam.com/video/a_nadvqSR5E/w-d-xo.html
Hello, my name is Bill Gonzales, the wine supply company suggested I use the 10-star sanitizer made by Fiive Star. I live in the country and have a septic system. I can't get Star Scan delivered to my home in Washington State. I had to go to a wine making company. Thank you, have a Blessed Day.
Good show! I read somewhere that diluted Star San has a shelf life of 2-3 weeks. I don’t know if this is true, however I made a 5 gallon batch before reading that and will never come close to using that much in that amount of time. Guess I’ll have super sanitized kitchen and baths for a couple weeks.
Yes 2 to 3 weeks is correct. I make 2.5 gallon batch and disenfect fot a week or so the house.. lol. Thanks for commenting. 👍👍😁😁
I use it diluted correctly should last 4 to 8 weeks in a sealed spray bottle out of sunlight 1.2 to 1.25 ml per 32 ounce spray bottle then add enough distilled H2O to fill the spray bottle. I don't rinse just let the foam bubbles drip out after 10 to 15 minutes. It does contain acidic phosphates to kill bacteria and other microbes. If you are phosphate sensitive could react with you.
Great information. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
After you sanitize, how do you keep it sanitary until you use it? Can fermenter bucket and carboys simply be covered after sanitizing? How long does it stay sanitary? Thank you
It's a wet sanitizer. Use when it's wet. No need to cover and risk contamination. Sanitize when ready to start using equipment.
Just getting ready for my first attempt at wine making. I note you are sanitizing your carboy's etc. Given initial fermentation is about 2 weeks, are you sanitizing again before racking, or this sanitization two weeks before racking is sufficient? Just want to confirm
Always sanitize when using your equipment. Sanitize it before contact with your wine. You will prevent many problems. You are going to be a professional very soon. 🍷🍷
I will subscribe....one question, after making wine, I rinse everything with hot water and plan to sanitize with starsan and put equipment away. Then when I make wine again I will starsan everything first and make wine. Is this enough cleaning with the hot water rinse? What do you do? Thanks.
Oh yeah thst is fine.. you only need to use starsan when starting a batch.
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Dose mixed sanitizer keep with a lid on? And if so, how long?
It will last a week or 2 max.
@@HowToDoneRight thank you
I mix a small amount in a spray bottle.
Last me for 2 weeks.
There may be a question reguarding Star san stability when diluted in light, and or when tap water is uses. Google star san stability.
Thanks for this… I still get weirded out and rinse the foam haha i know that’s not the correct way but have you looked at toxicity of other chemicals added to wine like Camden tablets? Just curious.. I’m trying to make wine using least chemicals
I'm with you on the foam. Seems like it should be rinsed but every time I do it in camera someone calls me out on it. Lol. Some of the additives are natural and safe and I limit these down when possible. But the Campden tablets are for bacteria control and always better safe than sorry. Pasteurization of your wine is a way around that but will lose flavor and not good for your wine in general. Store bought wine has so many more additives so already homemade wine we are ahead of the game. That's how I look at it. 👍👍🍷🍷
@@HowToDoneRight good point! Thanks for your input.
You should ONLY rinse it off if you aren't planning on using the equipment immediately and if that is the case you should be using something else.... It says right on the instructions "DO NOT RINSE".... This is because the StarSan is meant to be a protective shield against microbials in the short period that the equipment/container remains wet.
Cheers friend we just subscribed after finding your video , we love to home brew beer ,grow hops, make mead and wines , on our channel .stay thirsty .
Thanks for subscribing. Just subscribed to your channel and will checking out some of your videos for sure. Cheers😁😁🥂🥂
How long will it last once mixed, hours days weeks? Regards from NC
I'll keep it up to a month mixed. But you will get different opinions on that. That's just what i do. If your ph is below 3 it is still effective but i don't Get that technical because I'm constantly mixing new batch. 3 to 4 weeks is good once mixed
Now I understand it make sense
i love the fact to spray and leave a mist for extra sanitation but, is there a link to buy a lesser amount? any ideas for beginners to be efficient, but not having to sink soo money in the first batch? thanks:)
Get used wine bottles from bar or friends. Thats a huge savings. Buy used carboys at yard sales or online. This video will give you more tips and tricks.
th-cam.com/video/a_nadvqSR5E/w-d-xo.html
@@HowToDoneRightThere may be a question to star san stability once diluted and exposed to light, or when tap water is used. Google star san stability for more info.
How long can you store the mixed sanitizer product or do you have to mix a new batch every time?
It will last 7 to 10 days usually. I usually just mix small batches each time because as you sanitize equipment , water will get dirty. Great question👍👍
@@HowToDoneRight
Thanks for responding so quickly. I’ve never made wine before but purchased all of the necessary equipment and have fruit, cider and jam on hand so want to get started. This is the best video I’ve found on sanitizing.
Everything is easy to do if you know how to do it.
Thanks again ♥️🇨🇦
Keep me posted as you progress. It's a great hobby👍👍
How long can you keep the sanitizer in the bucket for? Can you leave it in there and re-use it to sanitize tools like your mixing paddle everyday during the primary fermentation stage for example? Or do you have to empty it and remix a new batch after every use?
It will generally last a week to 10 days mixed
@@HowToDoneRight Thanks. I'm following your 30 day pineapple wine recipe and adding a twist to it. I'm gunna modify the finishing stage a bit and follow advice from another recipe to make it a sparkling wine instead.
Here's another thought... bottle half as just wine... be sure to backsweeten.... then sparkle the rest... this wine one first place as pinapple wine. th-cam.com/video/0Z0ZH03CP4E/w-d-xo.html
Keep me posted.
@@HowToDoneRight That's what I'm planning. Bottle a few dry, some semi-sweet, and sparkling.
Sounds amazing. Can't wait for your taste test.
Thank you for this video.
Your quite welcome. Thanks for watching our channel. 👍👍🍷🍷😁😁
My bottle doesn’t allow me to use the small measuring side. Air comes out of both tops when I squeeze the bottle. Even tried using my hand to cover it. Bottle came soaked in itself and I’m not sure how to properly measure without using the measuring side. Any ideas?
You only open 1 side. One lid has to remain tight for suction to squeeze liquid. Can't remember which side so try both ways.
@@HowToDoneRight yeah it still comes up borth sides. I even tried putting a cloth (extra thick to not eat the stuff) on one of the holes and tried blowing it up into the other side and it did NOTHING. P.s. thank you for your fast response :)
Must have a bad cap on that container. Id just measure by hand with Measuring spoon. Good luck
Is it necessary to sanitize the stock pot that you dissolve the sugar in ?
Probably not since heating it up. But better safe than sorry in my opinion. Great question.
What is the red thing you were using to dry your bottles?
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What do you use to label your bottled wine & what do you use to remove labels when ready to reuse bottles?
I just use simple paper tags to label wine...amzn.to/3Of0mzx
If I reuse bottles I leave the labels on.
I realize this video is old. But do you throw out the remaining sanitizer mixture after each wine making session or save it for the next session?
I discard but put some in squirt bottle.. mixed is only good for about 2 weeks.
Their directions say every surface part must be in contact for 2 minutes. It is impossible to achieve that by swirling it. Only was is to completely submerge so it hits all surface parts. That would require a huge tank and lots of water.
Good point. But as long as liquid is touching everything you will be good. It will not evaporate that fast off surfaces. 👍👍
Makes sense to me 🙂
Lol... Thanks Ken for commenting. 👍👍🍹🍹
Doesn't setting everything on an unsanitized towel undo your sanitization efforts? Probably best to leave everything soaking.
Not that fast.
Gut microbiome won't like starsan being put inside the tummy. It doesn't dig chlorine stuffs or fluoride or antibiotics.
I understand why you used to try to rinse most of the sanitizer off.
Do you do natural ferments with just / only fruit and honey to make mead / wine very much?
Thank you for showing your hobby.
I would like to drink a glass or mug every other night or so but now it is espoused to not be that healthy as opposed to when the word was to drink a glass of red wine a day.
I don't drink any sugary drinks as it stands.
star san does not contain any chlorine, fluoride, or antibiotics in it. it is a biodegradable food grade sanitizer that does not need to be rinsed. rinsing defeats the entire purpose of sanitizing. if you rinse or dry with a towel after sanitizing, you risk reintroducing germs.
that's exactly why this is preferable to bleach, which has to be _precisely_ diluted to a PPM that is strong enough to sanitize AND not so strong that it requires a rinse before you can prep food.
@studentism Great info. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
@@studentism rinsing with clean filtered water is not an issue. Starsan will definitely have an impact on gut microbiome. But it's not like anyone would advertise that. And alcohol drinkers aren't going to care too much about their gut microbiome anyway by and large.
@@AngelPrissy 1) i don't want to get really into the weeds regarding what you consider "clean filtered water" vs distilled (which is what you'd want to be using in this application, isn't economical at scale, and for a home brewer would just generate tons of unnecessary plastic waste)
2) if you insist on rinsing, you should just use bleach. it's absurdly cheaper, and there's no advantage to buying this product if you're going to rinse after sterilizing.
3) i simply cannot understand why you'd want to run *any* risk of contamination when bottling something you're going to give away to friends + family, or even worse, sell to complete strangers
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According to Star San's material safty data sheet (MSDS) says 50% of the product is "phosphoric acid 75% concentrate added to solution". I'm guessing which when further mixed to manufacture recommendation (1 ounce to 5 gallons) is probably about as safe as the food grade phosphoric acid that's added to Coca-Cola to make it tart tasting, but it still slowly erodes the enamle off our teath. The GHS-US classifies phosphoric acid as skin corrosive 1b which is fairly low.
But, the MSDS also says 15% of star san is dodecylbenzenesulphonic acid. It is added to make star san foam, but the GHS-US classifications for this ingredient are: accute oral toxicity level 4, low 1a skin corrosion, and aquatic acute level 2. It seems this chemical isn't very stable and may break down from photolysys, minerals in tap water, and too high of ph.
The very very very thin film of diluted star san is safe when used appropriately to sanitize equipment and left to dry. And while i'll drink a can of Coca-Cola, I would STRONGLY recomend NEVER drinking star san even if it is diluted to 1oz star san per 5 gallons of water. But that's just my opinion.
New sub also 😁
Good video, thanks. (FYI as many TH-cam videos half the video is about what he will talk about in the video so just skip to 4:50)
i have never used this should he be wearing gloves
Yes you need to be careful with it in undiluted form.
Newbie here! Love your work, thank you! Do you just use left over water to fill squirt bottles for using throughout the fermentation process or mix up a new batch?
We are about to encounter berry season in the Midwest around June so I’m super excited to learn this hobby. I love visiting vineyards around Mn WI & can’t wait to start my own soon. Cheers 🍷
Welcome to the channel. As you watch other videos you will see I fill water bottles up first with sanitizer. It will last about 2 weeks. Once you have homemade wine you will never buy again. 👍👍😁😁🍷🍷
Don't fear the foam.
Well the owner also thought the Titan submarine was safe 😅
Well he was just insane... lol
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Has it bothered anyone's hands in its diluted form?
Not me. Never had issues.
7:51 I have mixed feelings about this towel that doesn't look like it just came out of the sanitizer solution
Lol, was thinking that too. That and his red bottle racks…
Overreaction... I even sanitize my shoes
While you’re at it, I’d always add your chemical to water, rather than adding water to your chemical.
Handling sanitized equipment defeats the purpose of sanitizing.
Realllyyyyy??? Your hands are sanitized too. So Not true .
hands cannot be sanitized that is why we wear gloves@@HowToDoneRight
You are dead wrong on that one. You can wear gloves... just not necessary.
How long can you keep the sanitizer in the bucket for? Can you leave it in there and re-use it to sanitize tools like your mixing paddle everyday during the primary fermentation stage for example? Or do you have to empty it and remix a new batch after every use?
Mixed sanitizer will last 1 to 2 weeks. You will see me put in squirt bottle to use.