Traktor Kontrol S4 Mk3 Review & Demo + Native Instruments Traktor Pro 3 New Features
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- The Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol S4 Mk3 is the brand-new flagship controller for Traktor Pro 3 software, and this is the full Digital DJ Tips Traktor Kontrol S4 Mk3 review.
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Launched alongside the Traktor Kontrol S2 Mk3, the Mk 2 is the more serious controller of the two, offering loads of new features including motorised jogwheels, a more industry-standard layout than the previous S4, advanced input and output routing, built-in screens, and the new (and excellent) Mixer FX.
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In this definitive review, we look at practically every feature and function of the controller, and ask: should existing users upgrade? Is this a good reason to switch to Traktor? And would it be a good choice as a first controller?
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The controller looks amazing!!! So simple, yet so effective!!
It's awesome! 😍
Just got the S4 MK3 yesterday. Amazing. I'm DJing with Traktor since the first version of both software and S4. But the MK3 with the software is awesome. And the S4 is now capable for stand alone use, yess.
Glad you're enjoying it :)
An amazing review as usual. Just, always the most complete reviews!
I also disagree about this being a purely hobbyist controller. Sure, this is not about to sit in clubs. It is though, a controller that is a perfect middle ground for DJs who travel and aren't going to be 'surely' given equipment at the other end. Secondly, Traktor being Traktor, if you are a club DJ+ a mobile DJ (like me), and will get CDJs at the other end at times- it works with advanced HID and full waveforms on the decks now. It is truly 'the sweetspot'. Important to remember, Traktor is still the most flexible software. Never stuck, can always play with any ol' equipment. Anything can be mapped to it. Never have to carry heavy equipment around and reject a job on the basis of being unable to travel etc. etc.
Specifically talking about the s4 mk3- I got a chance to play with this at a launch event and I was quite blown away by the jogwheels as you clearly are too. Those jogwheels are so precise in both turntable and Jog mode. The turntable mode, does feel as close to real analog feel compared to any other controllers which have sort of tries this in the past. Another thing I agree with is the useability of those mixer FX on a single knob, per channel. They sound so good and make creativity very easy. The sound is definitely better with the combination of the s4 mk3 and traktor 3. Most of all, for me, the fact that this controller has become more 'club like' in layout and is still portable makes it golden. Most controllers of this grade and price are too big. In my opinion the sx3 for example, is HUGE (and heavy!!). It is super selfish when DJs all bring sx2- sx3 size controllers and sit them on a small dj booth where multiple DJs are hired to play. However, SX3 style controllers should help because they have 2 soundcards. What is called 'portable' is not portable. Sure, it's portable compared to carrying two vinyl players and a mixer and all your vinyls, but we are in 2018. Portable is less than 5 kg and less than 55cm footprint.
Big things I don't like: No standalone capability and no second USB for a second DJ. Regarding not having a true extra channel for MICs or an Aux, it can be a tradeoff between making the controller bigger and heavier, or not.
Here is hoping Native Instruments release a new firmware with standalone capability and please please, flexi beat grids for Traktor pro. Everything else, honestly, can wait.
Some great points, supposedly standalone capability is coming (don't ask us how) so worth keeping an eye out :)
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Im having the same feeling
I use it too - no choice though as Serato is what our booth is set up with at the club. It’s not bad - quite limited however if you have a Pioneer SP-1 sampler unit connected, damn it changes Serato dj completely...
Do a search for dj braindead pioneer demo - or something - he’s an Israeli dj and is a joy to watch using Serato.
@18:20...yes, please make a separate video focusing on the sample/sequencer of the pads section. thanks!
Lots of votes for that, we'll do it!
this controller is amazing really feels good and high quality all around.
my only minor complain would probably be that the loop number/size on screen has some delay when turning the knob compared to the mk2 which felt really fast (instant)when changing loop size.
as someone who uses that knob ALOT i can feel that delay/latency.
Thanks for weighing in Tom :)
The new MK3 is a very cool controller for TP3. Wow! Nice work from NI.
It is - thanks for watching!
I bought it 3 days ago and also bought a Mac Air just for djing. What can I say well , I am super happy, these purchases worth every penny I spent. The S4 just a piece of art, it is a modern 2019 + controller. Sound good quality is just amazing I’d say 30% better than on Traktor 2. Opportunities just so unbelievable, so much can be done with it. Didn’t try it fully yet but I am sure it will be very long and super interesting journey for me. Thanks to NI for such a powerful beast! Keep spinning, piece to all here.
P.S. Phil please make a video about stems and remix decks only. Thanks!
Glad to hear it Evgeni! :)
kudos for demonstrating the flux mode in a way that actually sounds good and would make sense on a dancefloor.
Glad you liked it :)
Took a punt and hesitantly pre-ordered a few weeks back. After this review I'm so glad I did! Wish these peeps complaining about stand alone would reconsider. I imagine the rrp would increase significantly. 4 channels with all the tricks for £699 is a steal IMO
Do let us know how you get on once it arrives Steve :)
@@digitaldjtips I most certainly will.... The 1st November needs to hurry up already
That's a great point. In addition, the Pioneer controller in the same price range - the DDJ-RR - won't accept Rekordbox iOS or Android as it's library. As I understand it (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) with this and the S2 mk3, you can get away with chucking in your iPhone or iPad instead of a full laptop if you're really limited for space.
Great review, well thought out and demonstrated.... Easily the best video on the MK3 I have seen to date.
Just under a week until launch, certainly looking forward to collecting one now!
Yeah, a lot of people waiting for 1 Nov... :) What are you looking forward to the most?
Hmmm, I like that browser and how you can hear what your browsing through, through your cans.
Yeah, pretty cool :)
another excellent review. Bought this controller a few months back, and can only say I'm super happy with it, fits in lovely on a link with my Maschine+ hours (no days/weeks/months) of fun with my new setup.!!!
This was an excellent Digital DJ Tip on the Native Instruments Traktor Kontol S4 Mk3. Greatly appreciated of the learning experience!
You're welcome Delmar. What did you like most about the controller?
3 notes about the review:
1. It's definitely not a hobbyist device. Not in terms of sound and not in terms of capabilities (I'm reminding you this would be an external mixer via a future Firmware update).
2. You left out one of the coolest options: being able to sequence samples on the fly, using the little Record button above the cues (while keeping it quantized).
3. The new Cirrus Logic chip DAC is better than the competitors, ranging to a 114dBu SNR.
Thanks! By “hobbyist” we don’t mean “inferior”. As I said we’re probably going to do a separate sampler review, as we think it deserves one. Appreciate the feedback :)
@@digitaldjtips Appreciate the response.
Have a fun weekend :)
BTW, how are you capturing the sound of Traktor in this video? Screenflow? Thanks
Two ways - we use Screenflow which can record all eight sound card outputs at once, and also we hit Record in Traktor itself as a backup. I think we just went with the Traktor recording this time, to be honest.
Thanks a lot
My first controller was S2 MK1, now I am using two X1 MK2 with Pioneer mix in clubs. But I am considering to get this one for my home studio :) Thanks for the review, Phil!
Awesome, glad it helped!
This is the best controller for 2019 period. If your a Traktor user, your going to love this.
Update, the Mic channels suck on this controller. Horribly low volume and has to be ran through the software and can’t be used independently. For DJing without the use of the Mic channel, it’s great, if you throw a Mic on this controller, good luck.
OneCrazyDJ Thats not true. I own one and I can use the mixer independently. I just connect the mic and then press shift+ext on deck d. Works perfectly
The idea of CDJs as a feeling is appealing!
Wel,l whaddya know, I thought I'd been a professional DJ for 28 years but I hadn't realized that since I switched to Traktor with the S4 Mk1 and then the S4 Mk2 a few years ago, I'm actually nowa hobby DJ. Well, cool: thanks for clearing that up for me..................(C'mon Phil, you really asked for that one ;-))
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This is the first physical controller I purchased on a friend's recommendation, three months ago. I'm still taking the very first steps, but I think it's a good companion on the road...pending future changes.
Awesome, glad you're enjoying it
@@digitaldjtips I thank you for also doing a written version of the reviews and lessons because my understanding of spoken English is almost zero (and I don't think I'm the only one with this problem).
I tried Traktor, but it just wasn’t for me. However, I am glad to see Traktor is delivering fresh gear. The one thing Traktor absolutely delivered on was remix decks. Wish that was a standard across all softwares. Anyway, great review. Always love the vids.
Cheers Omar, yeah I started on Traktor but moved elsewhere but always nice to see new gear and updates :) - Scott
I preordered s soon as I saw that it had the moving jog wheels and new software. I have been a traktor user for 14 years.I love it .......but it is a bit tired. Kind of like having a nice old car....but every other car you see has new features you would like but YOUR manufacturer never brings out any new models. I was. Considering switching to pioneer dj1000 because i liked it’s features. But HATE Rekordbox. Many have told me it is improved. Wasn’t looking forward to redoing markers and cue points on my favorite tracks for the switch either. This came out JUST in time!! I am EXCITED to get my hands on the new. Control in November!!
Hope you enjoy it :)
will have mine monday, amazon!
Chris Schneider so lucky.....I am being told I will have mine mid November......I am not tripping on it.I only paid $829 vs. $939
Re: switching to CDJs: one thing to keep in mind is whether you frequently play gigs at where they won't have Pioneer decks already there. The CDJs are very heavy and a PITA to lug around. Sure, almost all clubs have the Pioneer decks waiting for you other than that you're on your own. With you on Rekordbox. It's improved but I also don't like it.
I just got mine today!! :)
The master button doesn't change or lock the key of the song. Press shift and use the dial to the right of the screen to change the key of the song, shift and pressing the same dial, turns the key lock on/off
Thanks zetamale
Traktor software doesnt suck. its ahead of its time and doesnt need constant updates.
Used properly, I have serato users scratching their head wondering how I did certain things.
The library organization is better also
Traktor is like PC and serato is like mac. You can do way more with a PC if you know how to work it.
My 2 cents
Thanks for your feedback DJ Woof.
@@digitaldjtips :)
I can’t scratch my beard in time. But to those of you who can use this KIT to make music. Thank you. And thank you Phil.
Thanks Patrick :)
Make a separate video on the remix decks + recorder function! Thanks!
Gotcha, looks like that's what we'll be doing next!
If you still intend to use the full functionality of the remix decks - I 100% recommended investing in ideally a pair, of Kontrol F1 remix decks. No matter how good a controller is, nothing makes up for having a pair of dedicated remix decks.
I use mine daily - with Ableton Live too - and have written macros for them too so I can use them as fx decks, samplers and standalone, highly portable controllers for iOS apps.
But, as far as their main purpose in life goes, their job as remix deck controllers is a whole other level. Honestly mate, they change how use the decks in Traktor almost instantaneously- but after a few months of getting used to the, damn, they are just so, so good.
Plus they’re dirt cheap now anyway ✌️
Excellent review Mr. Phil.. Do Keep up the great work my friend
Thanks for your support, ClectaSkiMusic.
Great, review, really good demo and detail, covered everything for me
Thanks for watching!
Been waiting patiently for this review, thanks Phil. Perfect.
You're welcome. What do you like best, cheef?
Thank you for the comprehensive review!
You're very welcome!
Just got mine what a piece of kit this is , what a steal at the money n1 phil
Have fun!
I noticed that the reverse function is not quantized which makes it difficult to apply it. An abrupt return to the track is a result. I hope NI dev team is reading along :)
Yeah fingers crossed :)
because he don't have the grid . It's working fine here .
I think this is a really nice controller, just ordered one, cant wait to use it. I'll have to modify the layout, but thankfully I can just do it on a controller. I was thinking what gear to get for home practicing (and maybe for some parties too), since None of the controllers or standalone units feature 4 pitch faders, and if you want to mix by ears and use those pitch faders, well basically you just dont because switching back and forth between the decks and adjusting the faders back to where they were on the other track is really not user-friendly. I have a lot of tracks with broken beat and not even all of them are 4/4 so analysing the tracks wont help that much. I can mix by ears just fine and so I dont need to finetune ~1000 tracks worth of grids, tempo and stuff.
I will control the pitch either with the big filter knobs or the Loop / Move encoders under the jog wheels.
Thanks for the review and the demo!
BTW, I had no clue this unit was 5 years old now, damn
Thanks for the full review Phil :) I was waiting for this video, and this controller is exactly what i need (i am a 100% traktor user).
You're welcome Rodrigo, glad to have helped you. So what is it about the controller you particularly like?
@@digitaldjtips the first thing I like are the new motorized jogwheels, because i think are really helpful in order to learn to beat mach pretty well (or scratching too). Then the mixer FX looks so easy to use and fun. And finally i like the tempo fader too, for a controller it have a nice size and looks they response are good.
Yeah, agreed. The tempo faders are really nice - we feel they are better in that more standard layout, too.
@@digitaldjtips yeah to be standard is the most important for me rigth now, because I want to make the transition from controller to standalone mixing (two decks and a mixer for example) without felling that im lost. I have a Pioneer DDJ-SB3 and I will swich to the S4 MK3 for sure :)
Best review I’ve ever seen, thank you!
Thanks, glad it helped.
I used every Dj software but I love Traktor. I was kind of disappointed in the update I wanted elastic beatgrids and smart playlist. I like making remix’s on the fly with the remix deck. The stems was a long process in mixing your own music from a daw, commercial music is hard to find in my genre. Now I can use the stems decks with xtrax stems 2 way better than the first version update come out this week . Izotope rx7 standard is also another great program to take a cappellas and instrumentals from your own library of music. The stems sound a lot better in Traktor Pro 3. I can wait to get my Kontrol S4 M2.
You're certainly not alone in the elastic beatgrid disappointment, but overall we're pretty pleased with all the new developments :)
Excellent as always Phil. Right on the "Mark"... :-) Yes... pun intended! Cannot wait to play with the jog wheel!
I think you'll like then Michael.
Excellent review! Thanks
You’re welcome
I want to upgrade from S2 MK3. The only bad thing I can complain about the S2 MK3 is that I changed 2 crossfaders after using them for 20-40 hours each for scratch learning (maybe I'm a little maniac, but they s**k). I like that the S4 MK3's crossfader is not built in in the motherboard, so it's user replaceable, but I hope I won't need to change it too often, because I'm thinking of upgrading.
At least you have the option which is great, many scratch DJs like to put in aftermarket faders anyway when they get a chance :)
Thanks heaps, this vid was really helpful. I've gone the other way around (Producer first (HYPERCONFIDENCE), now learning to DJ . Went with Traktor as I'm a big fan of Native Instruments Komplete software plugged into Ableton. They make amazing stuff. Haven't ventured into Maschine yet......But I'd love to see if we could run Ableton/Maschine/Traktor simultaneously live. Anyone else tried/done this?
I'm sure there is a way to do it as Traktor is great for that production/DJing hybrid style of performance, not something we look at here really though - perhaps in future !
You forgot to mention that if you press shift and move the Loop long knob it will change the key track. Up and down. That's a good feature.
Awesome. We forgot to state it because we didn't spot it! Thanks for informing us Fernando.
hi guys, excellent video, been waiting for this for ages, had the original s4 and currently use the ddj 1000 so have switched to pioneer. however i always love to see native instruments come forward in the industry especially because there is an element of nostalgia from my end. what did you say about the software issue, isn't there traktor 3 now? also what about sound output quality how will it hold up on big systems? one last thing, i wish to add, when it comes to loop style djing and effects, traktor dominates all the completion entirely IMO. thanks again
Software is still not where it should be, on the bright side, sound quality is better than ever - and yes, Traktor's looping is still the very best :)
Digital DJ Tips hey Phil. Great review. Regarding the sound output. It seems to be super low. A lot of others are having the same issue and voicing it on the NI forums. Would you happen to have any information regarding this? I’ve been using Rekordbox and pioneer controllers but the S4 intrigued me enough to purchase. A novice on traktor but learning quickly. Thanks for the video and your input!
Again great review! The s4 is beginning to grow on me!
Glad you liked it! :)
I've been a Traktor DJ for many years but never used a Traktor controller apart from the F1, X1 and Z1. As radio Dj the one thing I would have liked on this a ducker. Maybe in the next firmware upgrade NI could include this by turning he cue buttons on decks C and D into On/Off buttons for a ducker when the Mic is selected, as these buttons effectively become obsolete. When switched on the ducker would affect the output of decks A and B by attenuating the volume by around 6dB with a fast attack and medium fast release. How's about it NI, easy enough?
At the time of writing NI is going through a few issues of its own... hopefully it'll come when they get settled down again though.
BITTER SWEET!!!! Finally my DDJ-SX2 mapped to TRAKTOR.. with that lagged jog wheels ( because they're Pioneers /aserato made for) and lost features days ARE OVER!!! i even tried SERATO with that primitive P8 sampler it was no where near TRAKTOR . Baw very upset that TRAKTOR focused for 2 years on music production and ignored DJs .. now this comes out ... don't know should i do back flips or swear at them : WHAT DA FUCK TOOK U SO LONG!!??????
Another GREAT rev Phil . Thank u for the insight . Grabbin mine asap
Thanks Hatim, enjoy the gear!
Great review! Excited to get my hands on mine next month. I would love a video on the recording/sequencer stuff for what it's worth :)
We're on it!
thanks ! just bought one and I love it
Great review Phil. I'm in a purchasing dilemma right now and that really helped solidify my position. One question: that "HUB" USB port - what can we actually plug into that to make it useful?
Think of it as simply an extra USB for your system, so anything plugged into there will show on your computer too.
For exemple, you can play a Maschine, or Komplete Kontrol keyboard to play straight to the mix. I did that with Maschine MK3. And on the phono input I plugged an analog synth 😂🤪
Any integration with Maschine Studio?
RedDepo Really? You’d want that?
I could see poss integration with Maschine 3, but with Studio? I can see such a small demand for such - like maybe a handful of people - that there’s just no way they would make more firmware changes to accommodate it.
Personally I can’t see it happening mate. And I didn’t even realise people even used Maschine Studio live on stage these days anymore anyway.
Can I just ask what your set-up is with Studio/ Traktor is while performing live? I understand the whole Maschine/ Maschine Mikro/ Traktor set-up but can’t work out why you’d need Studio up there too.
Nothing detailed- just to give me an idea of how you use them in sets.
Cheers matey ✌️
Great review! Will the RCA and XLR output simultaneously? Also, seeing as two of the crossfader curves dip the volume of each channel when in the centre and the other is primarily for scratching, does that mean there is no crossfade curve like the previous models had? (Unless I’ve never noticed after 5 years haha)
Ps, calibrate your tempo faders 😜
Yes, they output simultaneously. The three crossfader curve options are pretty much covering all use cases (many DJs would just leave it set in the middle).
Digital DJ Tips Perfect, thanks for the reply! The lack of a thru for a mic is the only downside of this for me, can’t wait until the 1st!
After years of experience with digital stuff i leave my humble opinion.
Mixer side doesn't work without a computer, so if something wrong happens, it will happens, without gives you an "analog computer free" plan B (for example an mp3 player ready in one unused deck). This is probably one of the reasons why you said it's more hobby-oriented.
FX engine (software) wont affect external sources (and IMHO default traktor presets for group fx mode sucks, it's better to use only one fx at time alterning parameters with moderation).
Key section seems not present. I would give more importance (At least one dedicated knob for altering key).
Loop sizes like 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 are still unconfortable to handle with a rotary knob. With one shift or toggle button it would be better for having direct access to a specific loop sizes without watching that tiny display.
It miss that kind of touch stripe for navigate inside the track. It would be useful when you are looking for a track but you have lost the title and you want to listen at specific positions (like when you move the neddle with tt)
Jogwheels seems still too small and the motorized platters seems cool to see but unuseful @ work. Do They change speed while moving pitch?
Crossfader settings have been placed in a wrong place. Do i have to use a torch for watch? Imho front panel should be left empty because of flightcases and if someone still use crossfader (contact me if you want to know why you shouldn't use it) they would need to assign decks very frequently.
Have a play on one when you can and let us know what you think though - maybe your opinion may change a little. One easy way to quickly scrub through a track is to use the "move" knob, so that can easily replace a touchstrip.
@@digitaldjtips it's a very nice controller and probably the best one for traktor :-)
Great review as always Phil but also wanted to say the video looks great in 4k - awesome picture.
Thanks Fintan! We are not 100% 4K yet, but getting there :)
Cheers mate :) hope to see you again at BPM in the future -Joey
For sure - from what I hear BPM is on the way back - DJ Worx did a nice write up on it
Great overview, thanks for breaking it all down so well :)
You're welcome, let us know if we can help you with anything Jonathan.
Does it has an option for begining a loop (in - out) like the last versions ? Thanks a lot !!
Thank you for clearing up the different effects on different decks situation. Much appreciated.
But I just need to know, is it possible to select more that one effect on one channel?
You can't select more than one Mixer effect, but you can additionally add in one (or both!) of the two FX engines (the ones above the jogwheels), Mpho.
Love your review
I actually bought one after seeing your video.
One problem though, my bpm or tempo changes when when I stop the music which is kind of annoying.
That's strange, sounds like a bug - are you on the latest version of the software etc?
Digital DJ Tips no I doubt
I wonder if NI will update the Traktor S8 controller?
I think is over due for an major update.
We're not thinking they will, we feel the market for a non-jogwheel controller just isn't there.
Digital DJ Tips, I can understood that.
I’m more of a moving platter style user myself.
Something just feels right when It comes to the feedback that you get when using a record like platter and slip mats you know.
For S8.. they might do something like J2 that would be a jogwheel addon for S8 like the D2. That would be nice so the S8 owners could get jogwheels with haptic feedback on the sides. :)
I get the feeling that the Kontrol S8 will soon be EOL .
I think they've abandoned the s8. I loved mine when I had it but I used it as a mixer for a full DVS setup. 2 x 1200s and 2 cdjs. It was great like that but on its own without the external players I found it boring
Absolutely fantastic stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi and you have done a very good presentation of the product ....can you answer me one question? can it used as a standalone controller? thank you and again very nice job you've done!
No it's not a standalone controller
I might be interested. I use a pioneer ssr. I think of making a switch.
It's a nice controller :) Just make sure you like Traktor software before fully committing
Just wish they could make it compatible with Serato. Not much of a Traktor fan.
Mack Deleon Whaaaaaat !!
Honestly mate? You prefer Serato over Traktor?
To each their own I guess - I use Serato all the time - usually in my club on Fridays because of the Pioneer setup. But man, Serato doesn’t even come close to what can be done with Traktor - I mean, it’s soooo versatile, the best DVS tracking software by miles, 20 times as much settings and fine tuneable controls as Serato. The FX units whether used in multiple/ single parameter or in singles with multiple parameters literally laughs at the the Serato “fx” unit.
Then there’s things like Traktors Live-Looper sample recorder that allows you record a few bars and drop then into a slot in one of the remix decks - then there’s Traktors remix decks.
Again, I use Serato all the time, but given the choice- well there wouldn’t even be one as Traktor is simply so far ahead in literally everything (except more than 4 multiple decks I guess)
And Serato does work better with my Pioneer SP-1 Sampler I guess - but then again, with Traktor I don’t even need to use the SP hardware 😉
Honestly my friend, whether you like the previous versions or not - I would persevere with Traktor 3 at least for a couple of months. Shouldn’t even take you that long to see the light and use Traktor as your main software
Im glad i bought the s2. Less is more.
Yeah it has plenty :)
Great review Phil. When you intro the screens section, you mentioned showing how to change key but don't then demo any key change function, just the loop functions. I've currently got X1,Z1,F1 setup and have to custom map two of the rotary encoders on the F1 to cover this off and sacrifice two channels. Is there a key change function as standard with the S4?
Yes, you hold down shift and turn the right loop encoder. It cycles through the actual keys so it's a proper semitone "key shift". It's easy to use.
When he said the mixer does not work stand alone i turned of the review. Showstopper indeed.
To be fair it never has in Traktor.
@@digitaldjtips mk2 had a small take on standalone
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NI must be perfectly capable to build in standalone in their controllers. I don’t get it why they don’t do this. It saves your life when your laptop has to reboot during a gig...
On NI website, the comparison article states that the "standalone mixer capability" on S4 Mk3 will be availiable "Q4/2018", here's the link www.native-instruments.com/en/products/traktor/dj-controllers/traktor-kontrol-s4/compare/
That'll be cool when it appears... the trouble with performing live without a backup is obvious, and a simple unit plugged into a hardwired Aux can save your bacon (as Lars says below).
Is sound quality affected when playing vinyl?
Thumbs up on the video. I just bought mine today. I was reading on the NI site that there is or may be a firmware upgrade to make the mixer a standalone without the use of the software. Have you tried this yet?
We've heard that this is coming but no more news as far as we know
@@digitaldjtips Thank you. One last question, Do you have a video for the best approach to organizing your files? Since I am switching laptops, new controller from my s2 and now the new software I want to be a bit more on the organized side.
As in when I place my music on my laptop. whats the best approach etc? Same with grouping in Traktor. Thanks!
Where can I go to learn about this sampler or remix deck and how it works that Phil refused to go over? That is what I was really waiting to see.
We are making a separate video going into more detail about the sequencer/sampler (ie remix decks)
Very nice! Thank you.
Super Controller 👍
Yeah it's awesome :)
So you can't select other effects in the top FX units section? Or is it possible to remap it to some combo?
Also, what's with NI and Traktor these days? Selling it and rumor about whatnot, any info on that and whether it's stays with us, including updates, support and all?
Would be good to know if someone wants to invest into it.
Great video as always Phil. 👍
Thanks :)
Thank you for an honest review Phil!!! Hmmmm..... the software! I like what I see but I wouldn't be surprised if after a year they come out with an mk4 version. As I've learned from Digital DJ Tips, software is everything! far more important than hardware at the moment. So while I really like what NI are doing I'll stay with my S8 and won't upgrade to the new software.
I'm not so sure... the software is the most pressing thing - the old Mk2 was around for ages, remember :)
If anything I suppose you should upgrade the software, especially for the new key lock sound quality. A software upgrade will not cost much money compared to replacing your S8 with this new S4. I never liked the S8 due to no jogs.
I'm sad to see the Mono plug main out gone. I liked this since it did not "stress" any hardware as RCA does. Felt like the RCA would get worn out pretty fast at least on the MK2.
Also, do you have the real dimensions, for example does a MK2 decksaver fit this one? I do not trust the resellers at this time :)
No, the Decksaver won't fit it. I think you should be OK with the RCAs - they're pretty standard after all. Anything that excites you about this controller, Jowcke?
is it possible that you upload a video letting users know which products support streaming on all platforms,reading a hell of a lot of complaints that traktor drop their driver support on not only flagship products but most of their harware after a short number of years...thanks...going out into the wild to purchase second hand equipment is a nightmare if the equipment doesn't get support from the company
You can usually find that out by heading to the software website but it's a good suggestion
I'm more interested in the feature that you didn't 't cover which is recording playing the remix decks into the sampler, so whatever I play will play along with the tracks. Eg I have remix decks of drum one shots...when I play a rhythm, I've wanted for ages to be able to record from the remix deck so the rhythm I play then loops over the main tracks, now this is possible but only briefly covered in Ean Goldens review...
We're making a separate video, Joey - watch out for it!
Also, is the size the same as mk2? Do they fit in the same bag or do i need to buy a new one? Thank you
It'll fit in the same bag, it's roughly the same size.
Thanks for an informative review :)
You're welcome Ben.
Can you customize the little screens in Traktor, like get rid of the bpm?
What’s the weight please? How heavy is it
Dimensions are 33.9 x 54.2 x 6.5 cm / 4.3 kg
Thanks a lot for another great review! Grtz
You're welcome.
Personally, I'm grateful Traktor doesn't have complex beatgridding functions. It pushed me to steady the tempo of old funk tracks in a DAW, rather than waste time re-gridding them every time I switch DJ software.
Thanks for showing how stems were implemented - I'd been sceptical about controlling them from this type of controller.
Nice viewpoint! Thanks Django
I am SO torn between the S4 Mk3 and the S8.. I play mostly electronic music.. but the S8 hasn't been updated in, what, 6 years? And I get the feeling, the moment I buy the S8, they come out with a Mk2... ack..
I'd go for the S4 Mk3.
Nice!
Thanks soul de funk. What is your favourite feature?
It has an onboard audio interface?
Phil! Merry Christmas!
Cheers! Hope you're having nice holidays :)
I agree about the loss of 2 channels when using a mic and an external media source (phone), it is a big loss of 2 channels.
Shame they could not route it to an unused FX encoder or something similar.
Great review, Phil!!! Can this be used just for the jog wheels to control decks A and B and then set Traktor to External Mixing mode through an Audio 6 and to an analog mixer? I know I would be missing out on the whole mixer section and mixer effects. Or, maybe I wait and cross my fingers for new jog wheel controllers. Thanks!!!
Don't see why not - you can route the audio where you like, including using an external audio interface. Not tried it though.
I could be wrong but I would have thought you would use Internal mode for this controller and I think you can only select either Internal OR external at any one time. Internal is for mouse.controller use and external is for linking to a soundcard for mixer use. It would be cool if you could do this though - I hope I am wrong. Did anyone try it?
Great review, anyone know the tracks he plays?
Often it's unreleased tracks by our Joey Santos - copyright free that way :)
Please, test the mic input? It was terrible on s4 mk2 !
We will do when we get the chance :)
Good point, I forgot about that. Never used it apart from “Live-Recording” samples n loops and what I remember was actually having a separate mic amp because the s4’s built in one was not much better than complete shit.
Hope they improve this - It’s one of the most used functions I have found myself using the past year in combo with a remix deck / DVS and live sampling straight into a remix deck channel.
Great review Phil, could you tell me where i find the extra colour effect to choose from as i cant seem to locate them, Thanks
See if this helps: th-cam.com/video/PU-sRgrlaJ8/w-d-xo.html
Is there a way to hide the bpm (or show the pitch % instead) in the screens? Thanks
Not sure about that Sergio, they always seem to be displayed :)
This would be a great feature if you didn't want to use sync and mix completely manual like using vinyl. I would have to put some black tape over the screen. Maybe a firmware option update could be implemented.
Check the native instruments forum. A guy there is building custom screen layout and you can get them for free!
Thanks for the tip. Benoit!
Im a beginner DJ, extremely interested to buy the S4, MK3, I mainly play with Pioneer CDJNX2 in the clubs , my main question is , if I practice substantially on the S4MK3, will i find it hard to play on the CDJ coz the layout is different? That’s the only thing stopping me from buying this beauty. Please comment , this or Denon Prime 4?😬
You might - if you plan on DJing with CDJs at the club, why not get something like the DDJ-800 or DDJ-1000 instead? :)
@@digitaldjtips thank you! So in summary you feel practicing on a different platform/controller would keep me slightly out of sync with playing at clubs/cdjs? I keep thinking of this ..
Can I change the colors of the leds?
Not as yet, no :(
Great work on this video as always Phil. I am seriously thinking about purchasing it. However, I do have 1 question. I use the Beatjump feature a lot in Traktor Pro 2 when mixing live to either jump my cued/next track forward 32 beats if it is a bit dull at the start, or I find it useful if I miss the beat I was supposed to mix in on on the live deck I can count 4 beats in my head and then start the cued deck and then beatjump 4 beats forward. At the moment I do all this using the mouse but I want to limit using the mouse. Is there a way to map this function to the S4 MK3 or can you already do this with the Move encoder? I know you can move loops and move within the track using the Move encoder but can you set it to move/jump by a specific number of beats (4 in my example above)? Thanks and I hope you or someone else can help me with this.
I have just seen that the 2nd comment on this review asked the same question (user mikelo303). It seems to have been answered but if you could confirm that it will work the way I have described above I would appreciate it. Thanks.
@@cheefr0berts Yes you can use the loop move encoder for beat jump, you set the number of beats using the loop length encoder the move using the left had move one :)
@@digitaldjtips Thanks for your very prompt reply. I think I have been a good enough boy this year so hopefully santa brings me one :)
I love my dex . the turning jog wheels take me back to the technics 1210s . good memory's.
does anyone know if you can set pads to kill low, kill-mid, kill-high. traktor can be a bit of a mine field but its great...….
Good question! We'll look into that....
How is the sound volume? When playing out I always found the volume of the Mk2 a little lacking compared to a CDJ.
It is MUCH improved, the quality of the sound through this seems so much better than the MK1&2, although we haven't used it in a club yet...
Great review. Wish the controller was bigger, but it is the best choice for software DJs. DDJ-1000 looks better but the FX are just not as great as the mixer FX in Traktor. Deal breaker.. Traktor is also just easier to use. Pioneer: better hardware. Native Instruments: better software. Pick what is more important to you.
Thanks for the feedback, M PK :)
Hi DJ Tech Tools. I spend much time at Pirate Studios as they have the latest industry standard equipment. I'm looking for a cheap alternative to use at home between gigs, do you have any suggestions?
DDJ-400, will be very useful if you're normally playing on CDJs and it's pretty cheap!
Hi, thx for video.
How can i use Micro and 4 Decks on MK3 at the same time, ist it possible?
Is it possible to Change The Light on Controller more or less? Its to Bright for me.
As a beginner I have been looking at the S2 mk3 as its very affordable but from comments i hear many say its fisher price contoller due to it being basic and headphone voulme low and less effects and no better than the S2 mk2? Is this right?
Do you have those 4 pads you demo on the S4 Mk3 also on the S2 mk3? You know where you can press the button to remove the vocals, another to remove the sound of the drum?
Because many say the gap beteeen s2 mk3 and s4 mk3 is massive now. Its got me thinking do i want the S2 mk3 when longer term the s4 mk3 will be better?
What can you do on S2 Mk3 that also the S4Mk3 has?
S2mk2 was more "high end than the mk3. The mk3 is fine, but it is a consumer/beginner controller. S4mk3 would be better longer term, for sure.
So 2 years later is worth buying? Is it still held back by the software? I have the S4 Mk2 but I'm considering moving to a Serato based controller.
It's still a good bit of kit but as a Traktor user already you'll know there hasn't been much development