@@austinmorrison6953 I'm pretty sure he just escaped it and didn't bring the wall down, it looked like the barriers he broke through just reformed as he left. If I'm wrong shits gonna get real crazy real fast for sure
I’m still a little confused if I’m honest. I don’t really know what the fuck all this means, I just know that Ricks bred Mortys and that evil Morty said fuck that and is looking for a life of his own…
He doesnt need too. He is not a revolutionary, he is not a visionary or some villain with a philophy. He is just tired of Rick's bullshit and wants out
@@S1lliest_Beanz i don't think its that easy, i'd imagine Evil Morty has to be numb to that since the reality he lived in consisted of every version existing in a bondage of torment and horror just to be Rick's slave of convivence. Imagine all the sadness caused by all the Beths and Jerry's constantly losing their Mortys, in the full clip you can literally see Mortys being grinded like cattle, and in one of the older intros you can see 2 Mortys in plastic wrap, alive and conscious in a store just waiting for a Rick to buy them. That kind of horror can drag evil Morty down if he lets it get to him so it makes sense he has to focus on the goal of leaving the curve rather then fixing it. as for killing all the mortys and ricks, they are kind of a loss cause, most morty's are fine with the status quo and we've seen mortys constantly backing rick up no matter how much he fucks up which is common in abusive relationships, our rick and morty are the exception to the rule since most ricks dont give a shit about their mortys. And killing the RIcks and Mortys make sense since no doubt some Ricks might come for evil Morty (he barely won the election so not every Rick is on his side)
@@nutbuster4204 In the old picture from the Riclantis Mix-up, Evil Morty might have been sincerely close to RIck maybe a Rick thought things would be better if his Morty was smarter than the rest so he helped him.
@@robertchaney2704 The issue with "just leaving" is that you need a better place to go that won't also get screwed up. Whether it be country or timeline, you may not have that :D
No theres an easy counter for that. there was that episode in and out, 30 minute adventure. and they they come out 4 months later and both of them were very upset Rick was not in control of the situation. the Central Finite Curve decreases the chance of that happening.
@@bloodred255 The central finite curve doesn't give him control of all situations, just makes sure he is the smartest man alive in that universe. That's like saying Issac Newton (undoubtedly the smartest man _of his time_ if you look at everything he did) wasn't in total control of the church or those that rejected his findings even though he was in the Newtonian Central Finite Curve. He's still the smartest, but that doesn't mean he can control everything.
The fact that Rick built an infinite wall between his universes and eveverything else is the most impressive and mind boggling thing he's done, for me anyway.
Considering realistically he would have to have already mapped out infinity in order to pluck out all the permutations that have to do with him & morty.
Hm if infinity is an ocean then the curve is essentially a dam that filters out the accepted universes from the rejected one. Which I'm surprised all the rick was able to do that. Selective selection. Or in another case, they kanged it
He dont built alone trough. He have to team up with a lot of alternateve versions of himself, and even trough they are the same person, they bonus intelligence allow them to create the barrier
@@matthewriley7826 An infinite series of copies of two universe-destroying idiots, the Giant Angry Baby and his Pacifier who wreck entire universes and leave them behind like nothing for silly bits in episodes. ...Yeah I think Evil Morty is gonna have to switch up who his victims are for the moral highground thing to stick. Ricks and Morties are verifiably the most dangerously stupid things to exist as far as existing is concerned.
It's kind of Funny really, Rick tries acting like he's the one who accepts the true horrific nature of it all and lectures people on how nothing matters and neither do they, but he quite literally wrapped all of existence into revolving around him and being his escapist fantasy, he's like the guy who thinks Pessimism makes you some wise philosopher
Yup. Even in-universe, the Smith family has become more and more aware of how awful and childish Rick is for the past few seasons. You can see them having less and less tolerance for Rick's bullshit over time. Rick is a hypocrite to the core, and it makes for an EXTREMELY interesting character dynamic, especially if you go back and watch the earlier seasons with all of this in mind!
Well... I don't think he might be the smartest morty... Now that the wall is broken there could be an infinite number of morty that are the smartest and never had anything to do with rick
Kinda explains why Summer couldn't see any dimensions where her family was happy while she was around with those dimensional goggles Maybe Rick being the smartest man in the universe has something to do with the Smith family as a whole being unhappy, so the only way for a happy Smith family to exist is for them to be outside of the curve
Rick being the smartest means he either creates the portal device, leaving his family behind to explore the multiverse or he rejects it, with his family ending up dead anyway thanks to other rick. Him not being the smartest opens the possibility of Beth growing up in a home with positive values, a present parental figure and probably support in case she does end up screwing with Jerry and getting pregnant on their first time, maybe succeeding on getting her medical degree which would help Jerry start his career as an actor, meaning the whole smith family could be generally more happy and healthy.
Well, look at the Smiths in the Cronenberg universe where they had to survive all the mantis-monsters and Jerry became a heroic figure and his family relies and looks up to him. They're certainly not "happy" but they aren't miserable, which shows that even in the worst timelines everybody is happier with the absence of Rick
I'm pretty sure in the universe where beth became a surgeon, didnt have kids AND meet rick again, Jerry was a successful actor and Beth was a cardiologist, for a bit they were happy without rick.
The Curve makes sense in a weird way when you remember our Rick made it while looking for the Weird Rick that killed his family. Our Rick probably made it with the intent to tighten the search area, but all it did was allow the Council of Ricks to create the fucked up system that the Citadel existed in. And now that the Curve is broken, travelers from other universes can enter the Rick and Morty multiverse and we'll see worlds where a Rick isn't the smartest being around. Maybe he'll become humbler from it?
Could also be that after seeing how toxic and destructive smart Ricks are, C-137 decided to help them build that wall to protect the other universes from the smart Ricks, allowing Ricks like Simple Rick to live out their lives with their families without risk of a smart Rick showing up to recruit them and blowing their family up.
@@lezard2102 hmm good point especially when we know that the good ricks are usually the victim or being used for personal gain (example being of course C-147, and Simple Rick)
The horrific part is thats going on constantly irl. I've met too many terrible people who need to justify doing terrible things to themselves and others with that they're the victim and it's everyone fault they have to be that way.
I love when Rick is backed into a corner by all the problems and monsters he created. It shows that his actions, despite his godlike power, DO have nasty consequences. They took a little longer to reach him because of his brains and planning, but it was all gonna fall down eventually.
@@ramz1455 rick made a comment about fucking up in a reality that they can only fix it a limited number of times despite there being infinite universes, that was basic foreshadowing to this clips events. Rick has been saying off hand this sort of thing every some many episodes i think as well. Now u see y he said such things
Nah more likely it's a coincidence, the show likes to lampshade the amount of deus ex machina Rick's intelligence provides but there's only so many times you can avoid the fallout of a mistake and still have the audience care about it.
The Central Finite Curve, or CFC, is a specific collection of many of the infinite universes with one thing in common: Rick Sanchez is the smartest man there. As time passes, the CFC slowly grows as Ricks recruit other Ricks and their universes are added to it. This means although there's infinite realities, there's a limited number that are part of the curve. It's this limited number that necessitates Rick emphasizing they can't just hop universes whenever, because eventually they'll run out of universes that are similar enough to their own to where they can slip in and no one would notice. Take S1:E6, "Rick potion #9", where in an attempt to sleep with Jessica, Morty gets Rick to make a 'love potion', but everything goes to shit when it piggybacks off the flu and spreads to everyone. In Rick's attempt to fix the problem, it keeps getting worse until everyone (sans the Smith family) is a horribly mutated monster. Seeing no way to fix it from there, Rick decides to abandon ship with Morty and move to another universe where everything is the same, except that Rick fixed the problem, but he and his Morty die. Since those were the two perfect conditions for our protagonists, they were able to move in without Morty's own family noticing a difference.
"Couldn't you just die?" I love that line so much cause as calloused and mean as it sounds, which Rick would deserve, I think Morty is just REALLY asking him. all the talk about everything being meaningless, could Rick just end it instead of doing what he's done?
I think the reason he asked him that, is because he knows that if Rick dies, he would had a happy life with Jessica, as seen in the Crystal episode, so long Rick lives, and keeps Morty down to keep him attached at him forever, he will Never be happy with Jessica.
You're misinterpreting the line, which is typical of this fandom. He wasn't asking Rick to die, he was being sarcastic. Mortys are made to be sympathetic with Rick's bullshit, which Evil Morty is making fun of by exaggerating. He's saying--sarcastically--that he could just die out of pity.
"Now your Evil Morty too- sooner or later we ALL ARE on this side of the curve." There is something badass but also somewhat empowering about that line.
It's claptrap, really(the term, not the Borderlands character). It's supposed to sound profound, but it's honestly just hollow. Also, it's quite hypocritical, since he's needless adopting the same kinds of behaviors he chastises Rick for and justifies it with a victimhood complex. There was nothing about his goal to leave the curve that required rigging the portals to go to death traps and killing various Mortys, but he does it anyway.
Thing is,that's not really what makes him evil by conventional morality.What makes him evil is that he can be just as cruel and horrible as the Rick's.Just look at his introductory episode...
It’s also bullshit. He’s evil morty because even not counting ricks and mortys he’s slaughtered hundreds or thousands of people and tortured even more for his vanity project and he uses the same bullshit excuses he calls the ricks out on using to justify it,
@@DarkEcho32 But the same can be said for anybody especially when you have access to what they have. All he wants was to be free from these versions of Rick.
This might sound like a stretch but that “Jack shit I’m leaving” is so powerful because at when you reach that point in what ever situation your in ..the person controlling you panics ..because when your that dead eyed and you just want out you can’t be stopped ..I’ve been there before and it’s powerful
Yeah, I've had those moments with my emotionally abusive father. I stopped depending on him for approval of my actions and it took him years to notice. But it felt so good when he finally realized it and stopped being repetitively awful with his cruel judgement. He still has his judgemental moments but they don't wound my soul like they used to. As a drill instructor in the military might say, I've gone through my rite of passage already. And I'm so much better a person because of it. I've never been as cruel or ignorant as he has been to me. Plus I'm so much smarter with computers because I forged my own intellectual interest. I am now a graduate with a Bachelor's of Science in Computer Science despite his emotional interference of the past
I like the line "You're all victims of yourselves." He doesn't deny that Rick has had a tough time, but at the same time he completely denies that as an excuse to be shitty, especially when a bunch of those 'tough times' was a result of his own shittiness.
@@thomasallister3446I don't doesn't he cares about be morally better, he just wants to be done with the BS. The Ricks did not facilitate a means of escape without destruction.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Except he does try to play the superiority card and the victimhood card as well with that "if you're tired of Rick then you're Evil Morty, too" stuff, even though being tired of Rick doesn't mean he has to be a mass-murderer. He does that part because he wants to. He's sick of Rick, so it's ok to become just as bad as Rick, somehow
@@songgbirdd Considering he set up the blender traps *before* he had the brain scans needed to get out of the curve, no, he did *not* need to do all that to leave. He *chose* to kill a bunch of people like a bit brat throwing a tantrum, then cloaked his malicious deeds with, "it's just because I'm getting away from Rick" and hoping people are too stupid to question it. Apparently, a lot of the audience is, going off these comments.
@@silverghost3063 An Enabler is a person who supports another person's bad habits. It's someone who, for some reason, finds excuses to justify making someone else happy at some emotional expense. The worst part about Enablers is that they think it's okay or natural to support said bad/unhealthy habits. They usually put themselves in a box because they feel like they don't know how else to make the other person in question happy.
We're talking about an established government/organisation. Everyone in the management is responsible for everything in the chain. Evil Morty argument is flawed as every Rick and Morty not part of the government or the establishment isn't responsible. I love how everyone suddenly, supports evil Morty, a selfish tyrant. His goal is admirable, but the execution is literally a mass massacre of mostly on innocent people.
@@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608 Rick shown here literally created the organization. His decision to leave (specifically just before the start of the show) doesn't change that. The only Ricks killed on the Citadel were Citadel Ricks.
@@unigaming9921 Yes, but that isn't even an argument. I'm saying the citizens are responsible for every the government does. In this case the creation isn't responsible the creator's guilty actions, especially when they have free will. Did you not watch the citadel episode? Also Evil Morty executed random Ricks and torture Mortys just to plan this.
What an end Explains a lot like why the hell rick complaining they can only change reality a few times during rick potion and the squirrel if there are infinite universes while also giving another big question What happen to the ricks now aside from our rick
I can imagine like most of them Rick jus wasn’t born or never became a scientist or smth like that. The CFC as I understand it is Multiverse that focuses around RM but that’s cut off from the wider multiverse which is Infinitely greater
The existence of the Central Finite Curve wouldn’t effect how many times Rick can change worlds. In Rick Potion No 9, he needed a universe that fit specific criteria. It needed to be a world similar to his own, where the genetic crisis was averted, but those Rick and Morty also died right after ... so that they could both slip in and steal the identities of the other Rick/Morty. Any world outside the Finite Curve would be too different for them to slip into
Its so cool that people are coming up with all these theories on whats going to happen in the next season but why do I get the feeling we'll get none of that? Or at least, we won't get anything like that until two more seasons. Rick himself said he hates overarching plot lines. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see evil morty again.
Well, the writers seem to be incredibly against giving the fans exactly what they want. The fight with Storylord was them basically giving a glimpse of what fans expect or theorize, and them saying, "we aren't doing that." But subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations is a crappy literary device (just take a look at many of the "twist" movies of the past few years). It has to make sense within the narrative so far. That is why they had to finish Evil Morty's plan. Will we see Evil Morty again? Who knows. But we at least can rule out him coming back for revenge or some power trip over Rick. Personally, I can see him sending a message to our Morty, warning of some bad guy in the true multiverse to watch out for.
@@finris1 Idk about that last part, no one ever talks about the fact that Evil morty doesn’t really care about other Mortys. Which would make sense, because he’s probably the only Morty who thinks like he does and is willing to act on it. I doubt he wants anything to do with any alt version of himself or Rick.
@@CrystalRose1111 because all those mortys are just ones who forgive all the time notice how it took like a millisecond for morty to forgive evil morty for lying about the seat
I'd prefer we never see evil morty again. He won. He escaped. Morty is now in infinite. If we do get any evil morty details I prefer it be through heresay, easter eggs and little details. Like a traveller from outside coming in, wearing the helmet morty used or something.
"I'm not responsible for every fucked up Rick out there. They literally all say that. They all have that excuse. It's part of their system. None of them have to be responsible, they're all victims of themselves." Looks like the show wants to be kind of like Bojack Horseman now. Rick having so many excuses and explanations to why he is the way he is, but at some point, those excuses will stop mattering, and eventually Rick will have to take responsibility. At some point, he'll have to realize that HE is the problem. It's not the alcohole, or the loneliness, or whatever terrible family loss he suffered when he was younger, or whatever mind-blowing discovery he made in his travels about the irrelevance of life and existence. It's him . . . . . . . . it's him.
Well said, king. 👑 At this point, it honestly makes me wonder whether the increasing stupidity of the last two seasons was an intentional buildup to this payoff. I mean, think about it: they've been showing us how boring it can be to follow an omnipotent protagonist on his self-absorbed adventures. It's well known that the series was at its best in Season 1 and 2, where there were stakes and Rick wasn't an invincible god. But now, the world of invincible Ricks has been shattered. I think that means we might be getting back to that vulnerability again. And I, for one, am thrilled for it. 🙂
This makes me wonder about all the adventures Rick has been taking Morty to collect all sorts of trinkets and baubles, if any of them serve a purpose or were they part of something greater.
Think of it like this. In the central finite curve, Rick is the most intelligent person. He can turn household junk into weapons of mass destruction. And he has portal tech to boot. So here is an individual who is effectively a god within a certain set of infinite universes. He can go anywhere. Do practically anything. And how does he choose to spend most of his time? With his daughter and grandchildren. Sounds like he is a lonely man who just wants to bond with his family but doesn't know how due to not being there earlier in their lives (and the trauma he already suffered losing his real wife and daughter). So he takes the grandkids on adventures like a normal grandparent would take their grandchildren to the amusement park or the zoo. His attempts to get Morty to take part in the crazy stuff he does is like the enabler grandpa who is willing to let his underage grandson have a beer.
i think you're both wrong. Evil Morty had only appeared in every other season: 1, 3, 5. most likely he will appear in season 7 but maybe he'll appear in 6? i certainly hope so.
@@Ziaotic like others have stated evil Morty might actually be killed in the beginning of the first episode of season 6, hope it doesn't happen but it's a huge possibility and is something that would help enforce the idea that the greater infinite multiverse beyond the curve is far more dangerous then the universes in the curve, although I'm hoping that isn't true
A Cthulu episode would be cool to see outside the central finite curve. It could tie into the intro and be a type of, "we were planning this the whole time" type of plot.
Compared to most of the show, it's amazing how serious this episode got, and for such an extended period of time. It feels like a completely different show.
I love that, when we finally see what lies beyond the central finite cuve, its so chaotic and violent and uncontrollable that even evil morty decides to stay near the central finite curve.
"Every version of us have spent every version of all of our lives in one infinite crib, built around an infinite fucking baby." -Evil Morty Best line in the entire show. The delivery was spot on. It's such a big reveal too, that Rick isn't the smartest man in the universe; he's a fake. He literally cheated to make that true, and only through his artificial restrictions was that ever the case. In a way, this being so unresolved really hurts the show.
Oh, ho ho, well not so unresolved anymore? It was great to see they didn't just forget about Evil Morty and switch out for Rick Prime; but did the exact reverse, and killed Rick Prime AND brought back Evil Morty. Bravo.
Next Season I think The Finite Curve Gets broken, and The Smarter one's other than C-137 Rick might get him killed due to the fact that he was the one who created the barrier. Im excited for what's happening next.
I love Evil Morty's character - he's not necessarily evil because of his goals but rather his means by which he attains them. He's definitely one of the most compelling characters in this series and I can't wait for season 6, hopefully we get more episodic content like this.
Weird that no one ever found it suspicious that despite him always saying there are infinite universes and infinite possibilities that he is still always the smartest man in every universe and that he's the smartest of all the ricks.
The even oddest part is that there seems to be an abbundance of messed up Ricks, the curve might have been more selective than that, basicaly it is based on the main Rick or Ricks that are of a similar mindset. In the infinity they found only one Rick who choose to be a good father?? That is hard to belive unless there is some factor limiting that possibility.
@@Raximus3000 We've already seen one or two Ricks who are dumb in previous episodes. And with the fact that the Rick we have been following through this show made the choice to be with his wife and daughter (before they were taken from him) is proof that the Central Finite Curve has a few flaws. It mainly brings in universes where Rick is the smartest man in the universe, but there are times when it brings in Ricks who are different or the opposite. But the reveal of the Central Finite Curve shows that Rick created it not to be in a pocket multiverse where all versions of him are the smartest man in the universe, he created it to find the killer of his wife and daughter. Prime Rick talked about how Ricks are pretty much supposed to be the smartest man out there, so it made sense to create a pocket dimension to trap him in and kill him. He just used that dream to fool the other Ricks into helping build it in order to get what he wants. Only, Prime Rick turned out to be hard to find, so our Rick pretty much gave up on trying to find him.
Honestly I kinda love the way this show calls out Rick, particularly in this episode. Cuz Dan Harmon seems to go out of his way to tie Rick's petulant, childish, narcissistic arrogance to the part of the fanbase that completely idolises Rick, usually while thinking the fact that Rick is a genius makes his behavior any less babyish. Because that part of the fanbase are also, generally, absolute fucking babies who think they're super mature and smart for "Getting" Rick and Morty.
it's a real tragedy what happened with r&m fanbase it's the epitome of suffering from success what is ultimately a pretty great show, catered a class of fan so immature that it ended up undermining the perception of the show to outsiders plateauing the growth of a fanbase it's the most rick and morty shit that could happen to the show irl
"What are you doing about it!?" "Jack-Sh*t. I'm leaving." I love that answer. Evil Morty doesn't care about Rick, he doesn't want to fix him or help him because a better person because in his mind its a wasted effort, in the Central Finite Curve there would always be broken ricks, it wouldn't exist without them. So Evil Morty does the next best thing; get out of dodge. Is it selfish? Yes, but thats the point. In EM's mind nothing would change if he stayed there, so he needed to get out of the CFC and find a universe that he can live in peace in.
As much as he acts like he’s better, evil morty is driven by the exact same ego as Rick is. He takes no responsibility for his own actions, and will go on to continue doing so in his own escapist power fantasy that he’ll create in the universe where he’s the smartest. Whether he likes it or not, evil morty is the byproduct of Rick and will live on in rick’s legacy
You're mostly right, but I don't think he wants to be the smartest guy in a universe. From what I've seen, he just wants to leave Rick behind and get out of the cage he's stuck in with Rick and is willing to do anything to get out. It doesn't necessarily justify his actions, but it would be unreasonable to expect all the Morty's like him to just sit quietly as they're dragged around in an abusive relationship.
Imagine if they did a spin off where evil morty started his own citadel and created his own curve where he was the smartest man in the universe. And then eventually the citadel of ricks and the citadel of mortys went to war... that would be cool
@@thomas-jp2yq I don't think evil Morty wants another Citadel or another prison. He wants to escape. He's been trapped in a toxic relationship where he watches clones of himself enslaved under a grandfather who can't let go of his own ego. I think, him trying to escape the barrier and the horrifying cycle it's probably the last shred of humanity he has left. No sane person would want to stay in the prison. What was the first crime he never committed? Being born a clone? Being made an order to be some sidekick? I think when he gets out, he's going to seek out the one thing he was robbed from. A Normal childhood
@@joshuaa7266I'm sk with you necause thats so viable but I've always wondered what happens next? You think someone who has tapped into that kind of power and technology thats related to rick will just settle down and accept a mortal death? Dude touched infinity and justified killing trillions to make himself, one person, exist outside the curve. He is just as selfish and driven as rick. Only problem is he doesnt have ricks trauma, and has nothing to impede his ambition. He might comeback and try to destroy the entire curve
@@darthvenator2487 Yeah, but he did it only in some kind of "self defense". His only "sin" was refusing to be cattle like everyone else and wanted to purse a better life. Remember what Rick said: "A cocky Morty can lead to big problems". And that, from his perspective IS a problem.
@@darthvenator2487 None of whom appeared to be suicidal. He used Mortys as nothing more than feedstock for his machine. It makes sense that he hates Ricks, because he is a Rick.
"What are you doing about it?" "Jack shit. I'm leaving." And that right there is why he's evil. Just like Rick, he acknowledges a problem and refuses to contribute to bettering it anyways. Evil Morty? It's a matter of perspective. The Rickest Morty? Most definitely.
i thought he was evil because of all the murders. all the ricks and mortys he killed to get his way, rather than just putting a bullet through his own head and being done with it.
There is no making it better, that's how colossal infinity is and how pointless it is to try. You can fix a billion worlds and you'll not even achieve success that's even a conceivable fraction. The Morty harvesting scheme is perpetual, self-sustaining, and unending in this infinite cage. Breaking the finite central curve by puncturing a hole in it is arguably the one and only thing that can be done to actually force Rick's perpetual infinity to break down into ashes.
@@Thejigholeman You do realize that merely putting a bullet into his head doesn't work because when Ricks and Mortys die, they are reincarnated in some alternative universe/timeline, right? (Evil Morty, managed to hack that system, btw) The point is that death isn't the solution here.
Tell you what, You try to kill an Infinite God with a cage around an infinite chain of universes where He Is God, while in the body of a kid that same God expressly bred to be his submissive enabling servant, and then you can ride that holier-than-thou shit all the way to the bank.
This is actually the first step; Rick can’t really justify his bullshit anymore because he’s no longer the person the multiverse revolves around. Basically without it his actions now have real consequences, because while previously he justified himself with “nothing matters because there’s more of it in another universe” he ALSO was living in a multiverse that basically existed to justify his heinous behavior.
With the CFC Rick basically cloistered himself off from any reality where he wasn't an all powerful demigod. That is why you don't ever see a living Diane in any part of Rick's CFC multiverse. She only survives in versions of reality where Rick figures out how to lose his toxicity and get healthy. If Ricks get healthy, they nerf themselves and no longer become the smartest conceivable beings in the universe (i.e. Simple Rick). Based on the flashback in S3E1 Rick was about to give up on doing science undergoing a transition to being a Simple Rick. That would have put him outside the CFC. The CFC is really a metaphor for Rick putting himself in his own prison. His grand struggle has always been his inability to reconcile his own frail humanity with his desire to be in control. Just like human beings put a wall around the weakest parts of themselves and hiding it and protecting it from outside inspection, the other versions of Rick are all dysfunctional and stay locked inside their infinite playground by choice. Outside the CFC are countless versions of normal Ricks who gave up their bid for apotheosis and became good family men. Our Rick is a tragic hero because he could have gotten OUT of the CFC had the bomb not killed his family. The clue as to how the series could end is in S2E1. We know deep down Rick is a good man when he sacrifices himself to save Morty (and even gets religious in the final desperate moments). I think he will likely send his Morty to a dimension outside C-137 where that Rick is still a genius but it also a nice mature guy and not like a grown up teenager (i.e. like a Doofus Rick). Rick will sacrifice himself to do this because by season 1X his full arc and character completion will occur. Who knows, maybe he will finally be over his issues and step outside his shell into a reality where he, Diane, and Beth can start over.
Great explanation for how we don’t see any universes where things are less convenient for Rick. No desperate dysfunctional families to exploit, no bigger enemies to make him the underdog, no lesser’s to make him bigger, and no Morty’s to be wowed by his brilliance.
To be fair i think that besides this wall there are other series that might have their own wall as a way to separate other more dangerous realities from consuming or even outright destroying other realities. One example i can think of would be possibly and i know this is a cliche example would be the marvel zombies one.
@@ReapersChannel26 Speaking of Marvel you have beings like Hunger who could eat whole realities but can't break into a reality without help from the beings inside. Space Zeus was powerful enough to kick Rick's ass as were the AI from the future reality that warped Jessica. Ricks are gonna have to deal with much more shit like that now.
Pretty much what he said. He's no worst than a Rick, and that's what makes him evil, he's _not_ Rick, and that makes his actions look awful. In the end, not only Ricks deserve it, but Mortys are literally "flesh" for him. It's clear Ricks don't care for them, and if they don't, he doesn't have to either.
@@nerov3402 more like "every single rick is evil". Which is also technically not true. Pretty sure we actually had an evil rick, but he turned out to be a robot controlled by Evil Morty.
"That's what makes me evil, trying to get away from him." Well, there's also the countless murders. So many murders of Ricks and Mortys. Which I guess isn't evil if you buy into Rick's nihilistic worldview. But even Rick knows he's lying to himself, that he actually does care for his family.
“Morty I’m not responsible for all the fucked up things other Ricks do” Yeah but you are responsible for all the fucked up things YOU do, which is A LOT.
What I find interesting about this scene is how evil Morty’s motivations relate to what we’ve seen of Morty’s relationship to Rick, in particular between seasons 4 and 5. I think in these two seasons we saw some episodes where the two were quite toxic towards each other, and in some cases that toxicity was an episode theme. The vat of acid episode, the dragon episode, and even the crows episode which this scene comes from (we can even recall moments from episodes outside these seasons). Toxicity is something that doesn’t just break people down, but could also make someone sick, sick of being the lesser man in the relationship. That line that evil Morty says “that’s what makes me evil, being sick of him”, implies that the toxicity in their relationship was so bad that it went to the point of evil Morty committing Parricide.
I feel like the Evil-Morty deserves to be called out here: he's not evil because he's not a slave to his Rick, that'd just make him a rogue Morty. He's evil because he's willing to kill whoever he needs to in order to maintain control of himself and seems to wholly disregard and disrespect any Rick on the basis that they're a Rick, and any Morty that works with Rick on the basis that they work with the enemy. He's evil because he's willing to bring down everything around him for personal happiness. He could have just retreated to a calm enough universe and hacked the portal guns so that his universe was inaccessible.
I was rooting for "evil" Morty. He broke free of the system. That being said had he really wanted to he could have changed the system from the inside without all the death that he caused. But I don't judge him for not choosing to do that.
perhaps not. we can assume that part of the Curve's properties enforces a Rick-centric status quo by hard coding it into the fabric of reality. If he tried to change the system from within while the curve still existed, it would probably self-correct. The only way for him to ever be sure that he''s free of it is to leave.
It's been shown time and time again that mortys and ricks are disposable, many are clones, and an infinite number. You have to expand your thinking at that level. Those lives, if you can call them such, don't matter. And after suffering all that death and destruction, one's empathy is nonexistent so of course he would leave and attain true freedom.
@KitchensAreHot not at all. I already explained this to your dense head. Don't reply again unless you have something with actual substance to say or can explain your reasoning. Honestly it's embarrassing you didn't already and I have to tell you.
Well done. Great job explaining your point. I'm sure you'll convince everyone that Evil Morty is a hypocrite. You were so thoughtful in your arguments that I was floored. I simply had not thought of it that way before. Absolutely, with no example or reasoning, Evil Morty MUST be a hypocrite. It just makes TOO much sense. Great Job!
So.. Rick created the Central Finite Curve to find the Rick which killed his family. Only problem is, that Rick who he was talking to in his Garage before the bomb goes off was Rick C-137 his future self. Its literally establish within their first couple dialogue exchanges that Rick is literally talking to himself and not just another Rick. Rick also makes it clear that he doesn't like to time travel. Also the bomb that kills his family looks like CrowTech which we know Rick C-137 now has history with. My guess is that, he made the Citadel of Ricks to try and contain them all to find the one that killed his family only to later find out that it was actually him all along. The reason they don't want to mess with time travel too much may be for this exact plot point. Just a thought :)
I wonder if Season 6 will give Rick a redemption arc. Cause, at the start of the series, Rick was just a drunken mad scientist, and genuinely cared about Morty. Perhaps after opening up to Morty and letting himself become vulnerable, we'll see a return to classic Rick, having classic Rick and Morty adventures.
Theory: C-137 built the central finite curve isn’t a crib, it’s a prison. He built it to imprison Rick Prime and narrow down the number of universe he could hide in. But sadly 1% of infinity is still infinite and C-137 still couldn’t find Rick Prime.
Well it can be possible that the rick that killed rick C- 137 Family comes from another universe where he isn't the smartest guy. (probably from evil morty universe where evil morty is the smartest guy)
I think it maybe was the opposite. I think that Killer Rick accidentaly stepped over the curve in to a dimension where Rick wasn't the smarter nor wanted to be a great scientist, but his need of revenge after his familly was killed made him enter the curve and become the smartest Rick of all (exactly because he is not part of the curve, or at least shoudn't be part of it. So he became an almost impossible variant, the smartest Rick of all). But yeah, in the end i think your theory makes more sense actually.
Infinity is really a disturbing notion once you try and wrap your head around it. The idea that there's a whole other pile of universes where Rick isn't the smartest man alive, but rather just some asshole, is really humbling.
Evil morty: I'm evil because I want to leave Also Evil Morty: Literally murders hundreds of Rick's and Morty's with blender blades for what can best be sumerrized as a booster shot for his escape.
from his perspective they're all NPCs for Rick's distorted game he's literally zero reasons to care for any kill, if it wasn't him pulling the trigger it would be a Rick
"What are you going to do about it?" "Jack shit, I'm leaving." "That's what makes me evil, being sick of him. If you've ever been sick of him, you've been evil too." Evil Morty could have killed Main Rick, but didn't. He did take power in the Citadel, but that was a means to an end. He also killed a lot of Ricks and Morties, but I don't think he ever killed anyone who wasn't a Rick or a Morty. And all the lives he's taken are probably not even one percent of Main Rick's total. Evil Morty wasn't looking for revenge or power, he just wanted freedom. To be free of Rick. He took over the Citadel, became a secret dictator, and killed thousands because THAT'S what it took to finally get completely away from Rick.
What a damn good pay off for the evil Morty story line. Kind of glad that they do one episode per season following this arc. I'm guessing next season will probably have to do more with evil Morty though which I'm all for!
The inherit irony in evil morty's ideology that he doesn't accept about himself is that he's also responsible for most of the problems he demonises Rick's for. He does nothing to solve them, in fact he actively makes them worse just to serve his own needs. He's more Rick than any Rick out there, which is probably why he hates them so much.
Yeah, but you can make the argument that he had to be in order to escape. After all, he didn't build any of the machines. he didn't make the blenders used to shred multiple ricks and mortys to power the citadel's big laser. He's just using it as intended, as Rick intended for it to be used. And I think Morty accepts that on some level because he needed to be. Rick made an artificial multiverse where only smart people like him can succeed, so evil morty realized he needed to become just a bit like Rick to finally find success and escape.
I would argue that what makes him evil Morty is torturing hundreds of Mortys to make his way onto the citadel so he could trick all the Ricks into a giant fucking blender. Not, wanting to leave.
@@HunchbackOfNotreJon your comment implies that Evil Morty here is saying that he should only be seen as evil because he's sick of Rick(hence justification. That you presume he's justifying his actions. He is not) Rather, when that President Morty says that being sick is what makes him "evil" he is saying that those feelings are what caused him to act as he did.
@@Mixinnitup Evil Morty: Every version of us has spent every version of all of our lives in one infinite crib built around an infinite fucking baby. But I'm leaving it. *That's what makes me evil. I'm sick of him. And if you've ever been sick of him, you're evil, too.* Morty: Did you really leave the Crows for me or did you just come back because they dumped you? Evil Morty: There you go, kid. *You're Evil Morty, too.* We all are eventually on this side of the curve. No, you're evil for the torture wall, concentration camp, and mass genocide.
Infinite Fucking Baby. Damn right, what an incredible callout. I want to know about the writers here and the behind the scenes of everything that culminated in this episode.
*In their Mind, they are the Underdog, they use it to Justify this.* And that sums current Rick self destructive legacy: The guy what wants to go agasint GOD and champion of chaos. But everytime someone makes him fell mortal, whenever intentional or not, he goes ballistic, he wipes their memories, destroy planets and galaxies alike and literally abandon to escape the consequences rather than admit and try fix the mistake he made; like the Cronoberg dimension. Rick is a the metaphysical version of an ansty edgy teenager what thinks a justification for being an asshole is an excuse to be an asshole and escape the consequences
Not true. One morty per rick, but Evil Mort was absorbing Ricks, thus requiring more mortys. He had a bunch, but maybe his end game required more ricks, and he simply amplified the smart shield in advance.
Rick building the wall was his way of protecting other universes from outside threats but also himselves. A wall works both ways, keeps things out but also in
My take on the central finite curve... Rick didn't build it just to be the smartest in a closed universe, he build it to protect his wife and kid in alternate universes from outside forces that would try and kill them (Evil Ricks?), since they were still alive in all those alternate universes inside the curve... until his wife still died from something unavoidable, but his daughter atleast still got to grow up.
Evil Morty would have made a damned good Rick. Look at how masterfully he avoids taking any blame for his own terrible actions and tries to center the narrative around his favorite excuse of just being a poor put upon underdog who is only considered 'evil' because he is opposing Rick and wants to break out of the central finite curve Rick has trapped him in.
Remember when Morty fucked with the squirrels? Rick said that they could only go to another reality about 3 more times before they're out, despite him claiming there's infinite realities. This is why.
You know I just watched the simple ricks comercial cause I felt like it and realized they mentioned the central finite curve in the commercial. That might have been the first time we ever heard of it.
They mentioned it once before during Ricks trial. One of the Citadel chairs said “of all the Ricks in the Central Finite Curve. You’re the malcontent. The Rogue” referring to C-137
@@stanpines9011 honestly I've listened to evil morty explain the central finite curve several times and I still don't understand what it is. Is it supposed to seperate the smartest ricks from the average intelligence ricks or is it supposed to seperate c-137 rick, smartest rick, from other ricks of equal intelligence? I don't know.
@@josephlinton1376 the central finite curve is there to separate the universes in which Rick is the smartest, from the ones in which he's not. They built this "wall" to be sure that in every universe in the central finite curve, Rick is the smartest. That also makes him the most powerful being in all the universes included in the curve. Basically, he's taken away the possibility to have anyone that has better technology existing in or even close to his universe, or getting in.
Evil morty isn't evil because of the things he does. Constantly in the show we're shown rick who exterminates multiple versions of earth, kills far more people with zero consequence. General violence in this show is not meant as moral commentary outside of specific episodes/scenes. That's why we aren't crying in a corner after every episode because the violence we're shown isn't meant to have weight. The point of this him saying "I'm evil because I'm fed up of rick... sooner or later we all are." Is implying rick's relationship with morty is inherently abusive and as morty grows up, matures and demands respect from rick that's when rick treats morty as evil. It's meant as an observation that abusive people will nearly always put the blame on their victim when their victim starts to demand more respect.
It all makes sense. It was always weird how Rick stated that there are infinite universes and bc of that nothing matters, but completely contradicts this notion when he brings up the fact they can only jump to a new reality to live in only a handful of times. How if there are infinite universes can you only jump a handful of times? Well that's bc Rick was lying 😂
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So outside the curve there is a universe where Jerry is the smartest man alive.
Theoretically yes, the chance that there is a universe where jerry is the smartest man is 1
That’s the power of infinity. There would be infinite universes where Jerry is the smartest
Yes, but I feel like Evil Morty is headed to one where Mortys are the smartest
Doofus jerry
Just because something is infinite does not mean that all things are possible.
No wonder so many things remained so constant across so many realities.
And all of them are fucking gone, he killed all of those ricks and morty's
@@FluffyIronGolems nah he didn't destroy the realities, just left them. He did destroy the citadel though.
@@lemonsuckerYT still just imagine what’s gonna happen now. All those universes walled off. And now the walls are down.
@@austinmorrison6953 I'm pretty sure he just escaped it and didn't bring the wall down, it looked like the barriers he broke through just reformed as he left. If I'm wrong shits gonna get real crazy real fast for sure
I’m still a little confused if I’m honest. I don’t really know what the fuck all this means, I just know that Ricks bred Mortys and that evil Morty said fuck that and is looking for a life of his own…
This is actually the first time we've heard Evil Morty be himself. There's no mask or deception this time.
He doesnt need too. He is not a revolutionary, he is not a visionary or some villain with a philophy. He is just tired of Rick's bullshit and wants out
@Kabuki Kitsune he literally killed hundred, if not thousands of Ricks AND Morty's just so he could escape, that's pretty selfish
@@S1lliest_Beanz i don't think its that easy, i'd imagine Evil Morty has to be numb to that since the reality he lived in consisted of every version existing in a bondage of torment and horror just to be Rick's slave of convivence. Imagine all the sadness caused by all the Beths and Jerry's constantly losing their Mortys, in the full clip you can literally see Mortys being grinded like cattle, and in one of the older intros you can see 2 Mortys in plastic wrap, alive and conscious in a store just waiting for a Rick to buy them. That kind of horror can drag evil Morty down if he lets it get to him so it makes sense he has to focus on the goal of leaving the curve rather then fixing it.
as for killing all the mortys and ricks, they are kind of a loss cause, most morty's are fine with the status quo and we've seen mortys constantly backing rick up no matter how much he fucks up which is common in abusive relationships, our rick and morty are the exception to the rule since most ricks dont give a shit about their mortys. And killing the RIcks and Mortys make sense since no doubt some Ricks might come for evil Morty (he barely won the election so not every Rick is on his side)
@@S1lliest_Beanz He never claimed to be selfless. All along he's shown himself to work by himself for himself
Wonder if Evil Morty read the Documents Rick had Written down on Paper and left behind somewhere.
Evil Morty doesn’t stutter like the others, that’s scary
His Beth, Jerry, and Summer probably didn't constantly tear him down like regular Morty's.
@@Dbzmaster159 Given his detachment and rick's calloused nature, they're probably long *long* dead.
Its still quite a mystery how evil morty became very intelligent.
@@nutbuster4204 In the old picture from the Riclantis Mix-up, Evil Morty might have been sincerely close to RIck maybe a Rick thought things would be better if his Morty was smarter than the rest so he helped him.
@@Dbzmaster159 Yeah that does make sense.
"Jackshit; I'm leaving."
I can never get enough of that line, it's just to good! XD
I'll tell you what's good about my friend when you realize you can't do nothing to fix anybody you say I'm done and leave
Honestly given the past 2 years I wish I could do the exact same thing
@@robertchaney2704 Pretty sure that's everyone Doc, I know I do.
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@@robertchaney2704 The issue with "just leaving" is that you need a better place to go that won't also get screwed up. Whether it be country or timeline, you may not have that :D
“Every one of us has spent our entire lives in a infinite crib built around a infinite fucking baby..” That was a powerful ass line ngl
Especially because Rick is the baby
No theres an easy counter for that. there was that episode in and out, 30 minute adventure. and they they come out 4 months later and both of them were very upset Rick was not in control of the situation. the Central Finite Curve decreases the chance of that happening.
He did say something about the quality of dialogue.
Can you explain it to me I don’t get it the fucking baby line.
@@bloodred255 The central finite curve doesn't give him control of all situations, just makes sure he is the smartest man alive in that universe. That's like saying Issac Newton (undoubtedly the smartest man _of his time_ if you look at everything he did) wasn't in total control of the church or those that rejected his findings even though he was in the Newtonian Central Finite Curve.
He's still the smartest, but that doesn't mean he can control everything.
The fact that Rick built an infinite wall between his universes and eveverything else is the most impressive and mind boggling thing he's done, for me anyway.
Considering realistically he would have to have already mapped out infinity in order to pluck out all the permutations that have to do with him & morty.
Hm if infinity is an ocean then the curve is essentially a dam that filters out the accepted universes from the rejected one. Which I'm surprised all the rick was able to do that. Selective selection. Or in another case, they kanged it
Eh, he's a more efficient Time Keeper from Loki.
He dont built alone trough. He have to team up with a lot of alternateve versions of himself, and even trough they are the same person, they bonus intelligence allow them to create the barrier
Who knows what wild shit is out there.
"There you go kid, now You're "Evil" Morty too" - great line, delivered with superb detachment
And a shit load of dead bodies too…
@@matthewriley7826 An infinite series of copies of two universe-destroying idiots, the Giant Angry Baby and his Pacifier who wreck entire universes and leave them behind like nothing for silly bits in episodes.
...Yeah I think Evil Morty is gonna have to switch up who his victims are for the moral highground thing to stick. Ricks and Morties are verifiably the most dangerously stupid things to exist as far as existing is concerned.
Both are of same age stilll😂
@@patchwurk6652 lol
It's kind of Funny really, Rick tries acting like he's the one who accepts the true horrific nature of it all and lectures people on how nothing matters and neither do they, but he quite literally wrapped all of existence into revolving around him and being his escapist fantasy, he's like the guy who thinks Pessimism makes you some wise philosopher
Yup. Even in-universe, the Smith family has become more and more aware of how awful and childish Rick is for the past few seasons. You can see them having less and less tolerance for Rick's bullshit over time. Rick is a hypocrite to the core, and it makes for an EXTREMELY interesting character dynamic, especially if you go back and watch the earlier seasons with all of this in mind!
Dude that was a brilliant observation
My theory is, Rick created the Central Finite Curve to be with Beth, because on the infinite universes, Beth and his Wife died.
I mean he was always that, it was never "revealed", anyone who didnt already get that from the get go was just naive.
So basically rick and morty fans summed up
Seeing a problem and just going, "eh, fuck it, I'm out" really does make him more like Rick than he would probably admit.
I don't think he's denying that
Pretty sure he realized he'd have to be more like Rick in order to escape him.
So Rick made that mess and you expect a Morty to clean his ass for the umpteenth time? This is very like Rick too.
Kinda except Rick is the sole problem to all their lives so he is just trying to escape the biggest asshole.
@@10RexTheWolf01 By becoming worse than him
The Smartest Morty just wanted to live in a universe where Rick wasn’t the center of it.
that's smart
@@matheussanthiago9685 and actually kinda sa- calma ai, achei um br kkkkkkkkk
Well... I don't think he might be the smartest morty... Now that the wall is broken there could be an infinite number of morty that are the smartest and never had anything to do with rick
Except rick isn’t the center of those universes by any means he’s just the smartest guy in all of them.
Is that too much to ask?
Kinda explains why Summer couldn't see any dimensions where her family was happy while she was around with those dimensional goggles
Maybe Rick being the smartest man in the universe has something to do with the Smith family as a whole being unhappy, so the only way for a happy Smith family to exist is for them to be outside of the curve
Rick being the smartest means he either creates the portal device, leaving his family behind to explore the multiverse or he rejects it, with his family ending up dead anyway thanks to other rick. Him not being the smartest opens the possibility of Beth growing up in a home with positive values, a present parental figure and probably support in case she does end up screwing with Jerry and getting pregnant on their first time, maybe succeeding on getting her medical degree which would help Jerry start his career as an actor, meaning the whole smith family could be generally more happy and healthy.
Or for Rick to not be involved
Well, look at the Smiths in the Cronenberg universe where they had to survive all the mantis-monsters and Jerry became a heroic figure and his family relies and looks up to him. They're certainly not "happy" but they aren't miserable, which shows that even in the worst timelines everybody is happier with the absence of Rick
I'm pretty sure in the universe where beth became a surgeon, didnt have kids AND meet rick again, Jerry was a successful actor and Beth was a cardiologist, for a bit they were happy without rick.
Maybe Summer was the only one seeing dimensions where they were happy, Beth and Jerry were seeing universes where they weren't happy.
The Curve makes sense in a weird way when you remember our Rick made it while looking for the Weird Rick that killed his family. Our Rick probably made it with the intent to tighten the search area, but all it did was allow the Council of Ricks to create the fucked up system that the Citadel existed in. And now that the Curve is broken, travelers from other universes can enter the Rick and Morty multiverse and we'll see worlds where a Rick isn't the smartest being around. Maybe he'll become humbler from it?
Could also be that after seeing how toxic and destructive smart Ricks are, C-137 decided to help them build that wall to protect the other universes from the smart Ricks, allowing Ricks like Simple Rick to live out their lives with their families without risk of a smart Rick showing up to recruit them and blowing their family up.
@@lezard2102 points to you
Where is it stated that C-137 build the finite central curve?
@@lezard2102 hmm good point especially when we know that the good ricks are usually the victim or being used for personal gain (example being of course C-147, and Simple Rick)
@@DundG You see it in his backstory. He kills innumerable versions of himself until he just gives up and decided to build the CFC.
I find it funny how everytime rick sees Evil Morty he takes a shot, and morty always has something around him because he knows that Rick will do that
Lmao maybe Rick C-137 is hiding something from himself and Prime Morty
“In their Mind, they are the Underdog, they use it to Justify this.”
Shows the most Horrific reality of Ricks, and Morty’s.
🤧
The horrific part is thats going on constantly irl. I've met too many terrible people who need to justify doing terrible things to themselves and others with that they're the victim and it's everyone fault they have to be that way.
Why ur everywhere
Shows normal Rick acting normally in a Rick and Monty episode.
@@rodrikofharlaw6848 To like being a victim is an addiction. To better yourself and help your love ones is a choice
That look of defeat on Rick's face when Morty asks him about the crows. Frickin' DELICIOUS.
I love when Rick is backed into a corner by all the problems and monsters he created. It shows that his actions, despite his godlike power, DO have nasty consequences. They took a little longer to reach him because of his brains and planning, but it was all gonna fall down eventually.
I was hoping he would verbally say it not make some face of defeat.
See, I oddly enough prefer the silence. If even for a moment, the shame broke him to where he can't even speak, and Morty still knows.
That’s why Rick said in an earlier season, that they could only jump realities a couple of times
I dont get it, please clarify
@@ramz1455 rick made a comment about fucking up in a reality that they can only fix it a limited number of times despite there being infinite universes, that was basic foreshadowing to this clips events. Rick has been saying off hand this sort of thing every some many episodes i think as well. Now u see y he said such things
Never thought about that, makes sense, there's a specific number of realities in the curve instead of the infinite unknown that was walled off
Nah more likely it's a coincidence, the show likes to lampshade the amount of deus ex machina Rick's intelligence provides but there's only so many times you can avoid the fallout of a mistake and still have the audience care about it.
The Central Finite Curve, or CFC, is a specific collection of many of the infinite universes with one thing in common: Rick Sanchez is the smartest man there. As time passes, the CFC slowly grows as Ricks recruit other Ricks and their universes are added to it. This means although there's infinite realities, there's a limited number that are part of the curve. It's this limited number that necessitates Rick emphasizing they can't just hop universes whenever, because eventually they'll run out of universes that are similar enough to their own to where they can slip in and no one would notice.
Take S1:E6, "Rick potion #9", where in an attempt to sleep with Jessica, Morty gets Rick to make a 'love potion', but everything goes to shit when it piggybacks off the flu and spreads to everyone. In Rick's attempt to fix the problem, it keeps getting worse until everyone (sans the Smith family) is a horribly mutated monster. Seeing no way to fix it from there, Rick decides to abandon ship with Morty and move to another universe where everything is the same, except that Rick fixed the problem, but he and his Morty die. Since those were the two perfect conditions for our protagonists, they were able to move in without Morty's own family noticing a difference.
"Couldn't you just die?" I love that line so much cause as calloused and mean as it sounds, which Rick would deserve, I think Morty is just REALLY asking him. all the talk about everything being meaningless, could Rick just end it instead of doing what he's done?
I think the reason he asked him that, is because he knows that if Rick dies, he would had a happy life with Jessica, as seen in the Crystal episode, so long Rick lives, and keeps Morty down to keep him attached at him forever, he will Never be happy with Jessica.
@@nicak777alex9 xD Didn't crystql episode end revealing Jessica had dream to be with lonely old people in their final hour?
You're misinterpreting the line, which is typical of this fandom.
He wasn't asking Rick to die, he was being sarcastic. Mortys are made to be sympathetic with Rick's bullshit, which Evil Morty is making fun of by exaggerating. He's saying--sarcastically--that he could just die out of pity.
@9 Tal3s Somehow I doubt that.
Also... 'interrupt'?
@@kenstorm707 is capable of interpreting lines and also put down everyone else. Stay classy king.
"Now your Evil Morty too- sooner or later we ALL ARE on this side of the curve."
There is something badass but also somewhat empowering about that line.
However... Once they're all Evil Morty, doesn't that mean you're just Morty?
It's claptrap, really(the term, not the Borderlands character). It's supposed to sound profound, but it's honestly just hollow. Also, it's quite hypocritical, since he's needless adopting the same kinds of behaviors he chastises Rick for and justifies it with a victimhood complex.
There was nothing about his goal to leave the curve that required rigging the portals to go to death traps and killing various Mortys, but he does it anyway.
Thing is,that's not really what makes him evil by conventional morality.What makes him evil is that he can be just as cruel and horrible as the Rick's.Just look at his introductory episode...
It’s also bullshit. He’s evil morty because even not counting ricks and mortys he’s slaughtered hundreds or thousands of people and tortured even more for his vanity project and he uses the same bullshit excuses he calls the ricks out on using to justify it,
@@DarkEcho32 But the same can be said for anybody especially when you have access to what they have. All he wants was to be free from these versions of Rick.
This might sound like a stretch but that “Jack shit I’m leaving” is so powerful because at when you reach that point in what ever situation your in ..the person controlling you panics ..because when your that dead eyed and you just want out you can’t be stopped ..I’ve been there before and it’s powerful
Indeed
Yeah, I've had those moments with my emotionally abusive father. I stopped depending on him for approval of my actions and it took him years to notice. But it felt so good when he finally realized it and stopped being repetitively awful with his cruel judgement. He still has his judgemental moments but they don't wound my soul like they used to. As a drill instructor in the military might say, I've gone through my rite of passage already. And I'm so much better a person because of it. I've never been as cruel or ignorant as he has been to me. Plus I'm so much smarter with computers because I forged my own intellectual interest. I am now a graduate with a Bachelor's of Science in Computer Science despite his emotional interference of the past
I like the line "You're all victims of yourselves."
He doesn't deny that Rick has had a tough time, but at the same time he completely denies that as an excuse to be shitty, especially when a bunch of those 'tough times' was a result of his own shittiness.
Evil Morty is also a hypocrite though, he’s not morally upright either, he’s tortured and murdered thousands.
@@thomasallister3446I don't doesn't he cares about be morally better, he just wants to be done with the BS. The Ricks did not facilitate a means of escape without destruction.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Except he does try to play the superiority card and the victimhood card as well with that "if you're tired of Rick then you're Evil Morty, too" stuff, even though being tired of Rick doesn't mean he has to be a mass-murderer. He does that part because he wants to.
He's sick of Rick, so it's ok to become just as bad as Rick, somehow
he did what he had to to leave though, everything was part of his plan
@@songgbirdd Considering he set up the blender traps *before* he had the brain scans needed to get out of the curve, no, he did *not* need to do all that to leave.
He *chose* to kill a bunch of people like a bit brat throwing a tantrum, then cloaked his malicious deeds with, "it's just because I'm getting away from Rick" and hoping people are too stupid to question it.
Apparently, a lot of the audience is, going off these comments.
Wow, that is a whole new low.
Enabler - "Well what are you doing about it?"
Chad - "Jack shit. I'm leaving"
What is an 'enabler'? I've never heard that term before, but it sounds negative
@@silverghost3063 An Enabler is a person who supports another person's bad habits. It's someone who, for some reason, finds excuses to justify making someone else happy at some emotional expense.
The worst part about Enablers is that they think it's okay or natural to support said bad/unhealthy habits. They usually put themselves in a box because they feel like they don't know how else to make the other person in question happy.
@@Osiris2994 Wow, okay. Thanks dude, feels like I learned something helpful today
@@silverghost3063 basically someone who recognizes bad behavior in someone but chooses not to do anything about it
Damn enablers.
So many meme term
Evil Morty repeats what Dr. Wong says to Rick. "Victim"of his own mind.
I love how Prez Morty just says "Jackshit I'm Leaving" even more natural than breathing
"it's their system" isn't that how it works? If everyone takes part collectively, they can say it wasnt them specifically responsible for the whole.
while I'm no political scientist or anything, that is how mob mentality works. Attacking a person seems more justified when other people are doing it.
We're talking about an established government/organisation. Everyone in the management is responsible for everything in the chain. Evil Morty argument is flawed as every Rick and Morty not part of the government or the establishment isn't responsible. I love how everyone suddenly, supports evil Morty, a selfish tyrant. His goal is admirable, but the execution is literally a mass massacre of mostly on innocent people.
@@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608 Rick shown here literally created the organization. His decision to leave (specifically just before the start of the show) doesn't change that.
The only Ricks killed on the Citadel were Citadel Ricks.
@@unigaming9921 Yes, but that isn't even an argument. I'm saying the citizens are responsible for every the government does. In this case the creation isn't responsible the creator's guilty actions, especially when they have free will. Did you not watch the citadel episode? Also Evil Morty executed random Ricks and torture Mortys just to plan this.
@@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608 yes. Hence why he's the bad guy. I'm not sure where in my post you thought that I felt otherwise.
What an end
Explains a lot like why the hell rick complaining they can only change reality a few times during rick potion and the squirrel if there are infinite universes while also giving another big question
What happen to the ricks now aside from our rick
I can imagine like most of them Rick jus wasn’t born or never became a scientist or smth like that. The CFC as I understand it is Multiverse that focuses around RM but that’s cut off from the wider multiverse which is Infinitely greater
The existence of the Central Finite Curve wouldn’t effect how many times Rick can change worlds. In Rick Potion No 9, he needed a universe that fit specific criteria. It needed to be a world similar to his own, where the genetic crisis was averted, but those Rick and Morty also died right after ... so that they could both slip in and steal the identities of the other Rick/Morty. Any world outside the Finite Curve would be too different for them to slip into
Its so cool that people are coming up with all these theories on whats going to happen in the next season but why do I get the feeling we'll get none of that? Or at least, we won't get anything like that until two more seasons. Rick himself said he hates overarching plot lines. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see evil morty again.
Well, the writers seem to be incredibly against giving the fans exactly what they want. The fight with Storylord was them basically giving a glimpse of what fans expect or theorize, and them saying, "we aren't doing that." But subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations is a crappy literary device (just take a look at many of the "twist" movies of the past few years). It has to make sense within the narrative so far. That is why they had to finish Evil Morty's plan.
Will we see Evil Morty again? Who knows. But we at least can rule out him coming back for revenge or some power trip over Rick. Personally, I can see him sending a message to our Morty, warning of some bad guy in the true multiverse to watch out for.
@@finris1 Idk about that last part, no one ever talks about the fact that Evil morty doesn’t really care about other Mortys. Which would make sense, because he’s probably the only Morty who thinks like he does and is willing to act on it. I doubt he wants anything to do with any alt version of himself or Rick.
Evil morty doesn't really have any reason to come back so yeh
@@CrystalRose1111 because all those mortys are just ones who forgive all the time notice how it took like a millisecond for morty to forgive evil morty for lying about the seat
I'd prefer we never see evil morty again.
He won. He escaped. Morty is now in infinite. If we do get any evil morty details I prefer it be through heresay, easter eggs and little details. Like a traveller from outside coming in, wearing the helmet morty used or something.
"I'm not responsible for every fucked up Rick out there. They literally all say that. They all have that excuse. It's part of their system. None of them have to be responsible, they're all victims of themselves."
Looks like the show wants to be kind of like Bojack Horseman now. Rick having so many excuses and explanations to why he is the way he is, but at some point, those excuses will stop mattering, and eventually Rick will have to take responsibility. At some point, he'll have to realize that HE is the problem. It's not the alcohole, or the loneliness, or whatever terrible family loss he suffered when he was younger, or whatever mind-blowing discovery he made in his travels about the irrelevance of life and existence. It's him . . . . . . . . it's him.
Well said, king. 👑 At this point, it honestly makes me wonder whether the increasing stupidity of the last two seasons was an intentional buildup to this payoff. I mean, think about it: they've been showing us how boring it can be to follow an omnipotent protagonist on his self-absorbed adventures. It's well known that the series was at its best in Season 1 and 2, where there were stakes and Rick wasn't an invincible god. But now, the world of invincible Ricks has been shattered. I think that means we might be getting back to that vulnerability again. And I, for one, am thrilled for it. 🙂
"F*ck man, what else is there to say?"
Bojack horseman didnt invent flawed characters that use their bad lives to justify their bad actions
@@synthify6349 it's an example.... touch some grass
@@jacobitosuperstar dude said the show is "trying to be like bojack horseman" holy fuck can you read?
0:22 when your workplace is in shambles but your shift ended 8 seconds ago
😂😂😂😂
This makes me wonder about all the adventures Rick has been taking Morty to collect all sorts of trinkets and baubles, if any of them serve a purpose or were they part of something greater.
Think of it like this. In the central finite curve, Rick is the most intelligent person. He can turn household junk into weapons of mass destruction. And he has portal tech to boot.
So here is an individual who is effectively a god within a certain set of infinite universes. He can go anywhere. Do practically anything. And how does he choose to spend most of his time? With his daughter and grandchildren.
Sounds like he is a lonely man who just wants to bond with his family but doesn't know how due to not being there earlier in their lives (and the trauma he already suffered losing his real wife and daughter). So he takes the grandkids on adventures like a normal grandparent would take their grandchildren to the amusement park or the zoo. His attempts to get Morty to take part in the crazy stuff he does is like the enabler grandpa who is willing to let his underage grandson have a beer.
@@finris1 Brilliant take. I think you dropped this, king. 👑
Nah, it was just Rick having some fun.
@@finris1
I like that way of thinking
Explains why despite being infinite, we never really see a univer where Rick is not the smartest man. This really does open up the universe for them.
This episode delivered. Hope to see you again in season 7, EM.
W J B You're skipping too far ahead. We haven't started season 6 yet.
@@Dbzmaster159 he wants a season without him first
i think you're both wrong. Evil Morty had only appeared in every other season: 1, 3, 5. most likely he will appear in season 7 but maybe he'll appear in 6? i certainly hope so.
@@Ziaotic like others have stated evil Morty might actually be killed in the beginning of the first episode of season 6, hope it doesn't happen but it's a huge possibility and is something that would help enforce the idea that the greater infinite multiverse beyond the curve is far more dangerous then the universes in the curve, although I'm hoping that isn't true
@@cookiesnugglez7318 I doubt it plus he has that damn forcefeild
"What are you doing about it?"
"Jackshit, I'm leaving"
Best response I've ever heard 🤣👌
A Cthulu episode would be cool to see outside the central finite curve. It could tie into the intro and be a type of, "we were planning this the whole time" type of plot.
Compared to most of the show, it's amazing how serious this episode got, and for such an extended period of time. It feels like a completely different show.
I love that, when we finally see what lies beyond the central finite cuve, its so chaotic and violent and uncontrollable that even evil morty decides to stay near the central finite curve.
Morty calling out all ricks he literally is stuck in this limbo of catering to his self destructive grandpa
"Every version of us have spent every version of all of our lives in one infinite crib, built around an infinite fucking baby." -Evil Morty
Best line in the entire show. The delivery was spot on. It's such a big reveal too, that Rick isn't the smartest man in the universe; he's a fake. He literally cheated to make that true, and only through his artificial restrictions was that ever the case. In a way, this being so unresolved really hurts the show.
Oh, ho ho, well not so unresolved anymore? It was great to see they didn't just forget about Evil Morty and switch out for Rick Prime; but did the exact reverse, and killed Rick Prime AND brought back Evil Morty. Bravo.
Next Season I think The Finite Curve Gets broken, and The Smarter one's other than C-137 Rick might get him killed due to the fact that he was the one who created the barrier. Im excited for what's happening next.
The finite curve has already been broken...
@@nathanspencer1487 that's why i think cause i might be wrong
Evil Morty probably gets killed first episode, realizing what actual horrors are on the other side.
Thats possibly what will happen..
@@Manofwar701 ya I feel like he won’t find a peaceful multiverse that he’s expecting. He’ll probably end up just trying to destroy everything
I love Evil Morty's character - he's not necessarily evil because of his goals but rather his means by which he attains them. He's definitely one of the most compelling characters in this series and I can't wait for season 6, hopefully we get more episodic content like this.
Weird that no one ever found it suspicious that despite him always saying there are infinite universes and infinite possibilities that he is still always the smartest man in every universe and that he's the smartest of all the ricks.
The even oddest part is that there seems to be an abbundance of messed up Ricks, the curve might have been more selective than that, basicaly it is based on the main Rick or Ricks that are of a similar mindset. In the infinity they found only one Rick who choose to be a good father?? That is hard to belive unless there is some factor limiting that possibility.
@@Raximus3000 We've already seen one or two Ricks who are dumb in previous episodes. And with the fact that the Rick we have been following through this show made the choice to be with his wife and daughter (before they were taken from him) is proof that the Central Finite Curve has a few flaws. It mainly brings in universes where Rick is the smartest man in the universe, but there are times when it brings in Ricks who are different or the opposite.
But the reveal of the Central Finite Curve shows that Rick created it not to be in a pocket multiverse where all versions of him are the smartest man in the universe, he created it to find the killer of his wife and daughter. Prime Rick talked about how Ricks are pretty much supposed to be the smartest man out there, so it made sense to create a pocket dimension to trap him in and kill him. He just used that dream to fool the other Ricks into helping build it in order to get what he wants. Only, Prime Rick turned out to be hard to find, so our Rick pretty much gave up on trying to find him.
Honestly I kinda love the way this show calls out Rick, particularly in this episode. Cuz Dan Harmon seems to go out of his way to tie Rick's petulant, childish, narcissistic arrogance to the part of the fanbase that completely idolises Rick, usually while thinking the fact that Rick is a genius makes his behavior any less babyish. Because that part of the fanbase are also, generally, absolute fucking babies who think they're super mature and smart for "Getting" Rick and Morty.
Fangirls are the worst
@@ErnolDawnbringer thanks for proving my point :))))
@b p i have hardly seen anyone as worse as Rick lmao
Wow. That's a very interesting take.
it's a real tragedy what happened with r&m fanbase
it's the epitome of suffering from success
what is ultimately a pretty great show, catered a class of fan so immature that it ended up undermining the perception of the show to outsiders
plateauing the growth of a fanbase
it's the most rick and morty shit that could happen to the show irl
"What are you doing about it!?"
"Jack-Sh*t. I'm leaving."
I love that answer. Evil Morty doesn't care about Rick, he doesn't want to fix him or help him because a better person because in his mind its a wasted effort, in the Central Finite Curve there would always be broken ricks, it wouldn't exist without them. So Evil Morty does the next best thing; get out of dodge. Is it selfish? Yes, but thats the point. In EM's mind nothing would change if he stayed there, so he needed to get out of the CFC and find a universe that he can live in peace in.
As much as he acts like he’s better, evil morty is driven by the exact same ego as Rick is. He takes no responsibility for his own actions, and will go on to continue doing so in his own escapist power fantasy that he’ll create in the universe where he’s the smartest. Whether he likes it or not, evil morty is the byproduct of Rick and will live on in rick’s legacy
That's kinda what makes him evil. He's no better than Ricks, but he's not a Rick, so his actions are seen in a worse vision.
You're mostly right, but I don't think he wants to be the smartest guy in a universe. From what I've seen, he just wants to leave Rick behind and get out of the cage he's stuck in with Rick and is willing to do anything to get out. It doesn't necessarily justify his actions, but it would be unreasonable to expect all the Morty's like him to just sit quietly as they're dragged around in an abusive relationship.
Imagine if they did a spin off where evil morty started his own citadel and created his own curve where he was the smartest man in the universe.
And then eventually the citadel of ricks and the citadel of mortys went to war... that would be cool
@@thomas-jp2yq I don't think evil Morty wants another Citadel or another prison. He wants to escape. He's been trapped in a toxic relationship where he watches clones of himself enslaved under a grandfather who can't let go of his own ego. I think, him trying to escape the barrier and the horrifying cycle it's probably the last shred of humanity he has left. No sane person would want to stay in the prison. What was the first crime he never committed? Being born a clone? Being made an order to be some sidekick? I think when he gets out, he's going to seek out the one thing he was robbed from. A Normal childhood
@@joshuaa7266I'm sk with you necause thats so viable but I've always wondered what happens next? You think someone who has tapped into that kind of power and technology thats related to rick will just settle down and accept a mortal death? Dude touched infinity and justified killing trillions to make himself, one person, exist outside the curve. He is just as selfish and driven as rick. Only problem is he doesnt have ricks trauma, and has nothing to impede his ambition. He might comeback and try to destroy the entire curve
No you're not evil Morty because you want to leave, you're evil Morty because you're prepared to torture and kill thousands to do it.
From Rick's point of view, yes, he's "evil".
Granted ricks done the same thing
He killed cattle created to be used and abused by ricks.
@@darthvenator2487 Yeah, but he did it only in some kind of "self defense". His only "sin" was refusing to be cattle like everyone else and wanted to purse a better life. Remember what Rick said: "A cocky Morty can lead to big problems". And that, from his perspective IS a problem.
@@darthvenator2487 None of whom appeared to be suicidal. He used Mortys as nothing more than feedstock for his machine. It makes sense that he hates Ricks, because he is a Rick.
"What are you doing about it?"
"Jack shit. I'm leaving."
And that right there is why he's evil. Just like Rick, he acknowledges a problem and refuses to contribute to bettering it anyways.
Evil Morty? It's a matter of perspective. The Rickest Morty? Most definitely.
i thought he was evil because of all the murders. all the ricks and mortys he killed to get his way, rather than just putting a bullet through his own head and being done with it.
There is no making it better, that's how colossal infinity is and how pointless it is to try. You can fix a billion worlds and you'll not even achieve success that's even a conceivable fraction. The Morty harvesting scheme is perpetual, self-sustaining, and unending in this infinite cage.
Breaking the finite central curve by puncturing a hole in it is arguably the one and only thing that can be done to actually force Rick's perpetual infinity to break down into ashes.
@@Thejigholeman You do realize that merely putting a bullet into his head doesn't work because when Ricks and Mortys
die, they are reincarnated in some alternative universe/timeline, right? (Evil Morty, managed to hack that system, btw)
The point is that death isn't the solution here.
I don't think he can even attempt to "fix" an infinite number of universes where Rick's in control.
Tell you what, You try to kill an Infinite God with a cage around an infinite chain of universes where He Is God, while in the body of a kid that same God expressly bred to be his submissive enabling servant, and then you can ride that holier-than-thou shit all the way to the bank.
Honestly, I hope that the end of the show just has Rick become a good person
This is actually the first step; Rick can’t really justify his bullshit anymore because he’s no longer the person the multiverse revolves around.
Basically without it his actions now have real consequences, because while previously he justified himself with “nothing matters because there’s more of it in another universe” he ALSO was living in a multiverse that basically existed to justify his heinous behavior.
Dan's gonna find his way.
It's the best we can hope for
With the CFC Rick basically cloistered himself off from any reality where he wasn't an all powerful demigod. That is why you don't ever see a living Diane in any part of Rick's CFC multiverse. She only survives in versions of reality where Rick figures out how to lose his toxicity and get healthy. If Ricks get healthy, they nerf themselves and no longer become the smartest conceivable beings in the universe (i.e. Simple Rick).
Based on the flashback in S3E1 Rick was about to give up on doing science undergoing a transition to being a Simple Rick. That would have put him outside the CFC.
The CFC is really a metaphor for Rick putting himself in his own prison. His grand struggle has always been his inability to reconcile his own frail humanity with his desire to be in control. Just like human beings put a wall around the weakest parts of themselves and hiding it and protecting it from outside inspection, the other versions of Rick are all dysfunctional and stay locked inside their infinite playground by choice. Outside the CFC are countless versions of normal Ricks who gave up their bid for apotheosis and became good family men.
Our Rick is a tragic hero because he could have gotten OUT of the CFC had the bomb not killed his family. The clue as to how the series could end is in S2E1. We know deep down Rick is a good man when he sacrifices himself to save Morty (and even gets religious in the final desperate moments). I think he will likely send his Morty to a dimension outside C-137 where that Rick is still a genius but it also a nice mature guy and not like a grown up teenager (i.e. like a Doofus Rick). Rick will sacrifice himself to do this because by season 1X his full arc and character completion will occur. Who knows, maybe he will finally be over his issues and step outside his shell into a reality where he, Diane, and Beth can start over.
@ Because it could show that Rick's are able to change
Great explanation for how we don’t see any universes where things are less convenient for Rick. No desperate dysfunctional families to exploit, no bigger enemies to make him the underdog, no lesser’s to make him bigger, and no Morty’s to be wowed by his brilliance.
"they built a wall around infinity"
I dunno, that sounds pretty badass though
To be fair i think that besides this wall there are other series that might have their own wall as a way to separate other more dangerous realities from consuming or even outright destroying other realities. One example i can think of would be possibly and i know this is a cliche example would be the marvel zombies one.
@@ReapersChannel26 Speaking of Marvel you have beings like Hunger who could eat whole realities but can't break into a reality without help from the beings inside. Space Zeus was powerful enough to kick Rick's ass as were the AI from the future reality that warped Jessica. Ricks are gonna have to deal with much more shit like that now.
0:22
Lmbo i love evil morty so much.... Love his straight forwardness.... He don't have one care in the world lol 😂
It’s insane what Morty can accomplish when he isn’t by Rick’s side all the time
That episode was mindblowingly good, one of the best things ive seen, so many brilliant plays by EM and his confidence is infectious.
“ That’s what makes me evil. Being sick of him.”
Err, I think capturing an infinite number of yourselves and torturing them is also a factor.
I mean, Ricks do the same thing. Ricks only see Evil Morty as evil because he's not subservient to them.
Pretty much what he said.
He's no worst than a Rick, and that's what makes him evil, he's _not_ Rick, and that makes his actions look awful. In the end, not only Ricks deserve it, but Mortys are literally "flesh" for him. It's clear Ricks don't care for them, and if they don't, he doesn't have to either.
then every single rick is evil rick
@@nerov3402 more like "every single rick is evil". Which is also technically not true. Pretty sure we actually had an evil rick, but he turned out to be a robot controlled by Evil Morty.
@@bookworm4133 so what makes evil morty evil is exactly what he said
"That's what makes me evil, trying to get away from him."
Well, there's also the countless murders. So many murders of Ricks and Mortys. Which I guess isn't evil if you buy into Rick's nihilistic worldview. But even Rick knows he's lying to himself, that he actually does care for his family.
Cause=/= justification.
This episode was the best rick and morty episode yet
0:41 that is now my favourite line in the series
“Morty I’m not responsible for all the fucked up things other Ricks do”
Yeah but you are responsible for all the fucked up things YOU do, which is A LOT.
There you go kid now you're Evil Morty too. Sooner or later we all are... on this side of the curve.
Rick built the curve to contain himself. He knew the greatest menace to other universes was every genius version of Rick.
This could not have unfolded out more spectacularly
This is the episode where the show legitimately made me scared of Rick instead of Evil Morty.
What I find interesting about this scene is how evil Morty’s motivations relate to what we’ve seen of Morty’s relationship to Rick, in particular between seasons 4 and 5. I think in these two seasons we saw some episodes where the two were quite toxic towards each other, and in some cases that toxicity was an episode theme. The vat of acid episode, the dragon episode, and even the crows episode which this scene comes from (we can even recall moments from episodes outside these seasons). Toxicity is something that doesn’t just break people down, but could also make someone sick, sick of being the lesser man in the relationship. That line that evil Morty says “that’s what makes me evil, being sick of him”, implies that the toxicity in their relationship was so bad that it went to the point of evil Morty committing Parricide.
I feel like the Evil-Morty deserves to be called out here: he's not evil because he's not a slave to his Rick, that'd just make him a rogue Morty. He's evil because he's willing to kill whoever he needs to in order to maintain control of himself and seems to wholly disregard and disrespect any Rick on the basis that they're a Rick, and any Morty that works with Rick on the basis that they work with the enemy.
He's evil because he's willing to bring down everything around him for personal happiness. He could have just retreated to a calm enough universe and hacked the portal guns so that his universe was inaccessible.
I was rooting for "evil" Morty. He broke free of the system.
That being said had he really wanted to he could have changed the system from the inside without all the death that he caused.
But I don't judge him for not choosing to do that.
perhaps not. we can assume that part of the Curve's properties enforces a Rick-centric status quo by hard coding it into the fabric of reality. If he tried to change the system from within while the curve still existed, it would probably self-correct. The only way for him to ever be sure that he''s free of it is to leave.
It's been shown time and time again that mortys and ricks are disposable, many are clones, and an infinite number. You have to expand your thinking at that level. Those lives, if you can call them such, don't matter. And after suffering all that death and destruction, one's empathy is nonexistent so of course he would leave and attain true freedom.
@KitchensAreHot not at all. I already explained this to your dense head. Don't reply again unless you have something with actual substance to say or can explain your reasoning. Honestly it's embarrassing you didn't already and I have to tell you.
Evil Morty is a hypocrite.
Well done. Great job explaining your point. I'm sure you'll convince everyone that Evil Morty is a hypocrite. You were so thoughtful in your arguments that I was floored. I simply had not thought of it that way before. Absolutely, with no example or reasoning, Evil Morty MUST be a hypocrite. It just makes TOO much sense. Great Job!
“Jack shit, I’m leaving.” spoken like a true Rick….
Oh my god.
This is why Rick said there were only a couple dozen realities where he turned everything back to normal back in season 1.
“And what are you doing about it?”
“Jackshit. I’m leaving.”
Atleast he’s honest.
So.. Rick created the Central Finite Curve to find the Rick which killed his family.
Only problem is, that Rick who he was talking to in his Garage before
the bomb goes off was Rick C-137 his future self. Its literally establish
within their first couple dialogue exchanges that Rick is literally talking to
himself and not just another Rick. Rick also makes it clear that he doesn't
like to time travel. Also the bomb that kills his family looks like CrowTech which we
know Rick C-137 now has history with. My guess is that, he made the
Citadel of Ricks to try and contain them all to find the one that killed his family only to later find out that
it was actually him all along. The reason they don't want to mess with time travel
too much may be for this exact plot point. Just a thought :)
...this is amazing.
Congrats man you played yourself
Dumb
I wonder if Season 6 will give Rick a redemption arc. Cause, at the start of the series, Rick was just a drunken mad scientist, and genuinely cared about Morty. Perhaps after opening up to Morty and letting himself become vulnerable, we'll see a return to classic Rick, having classic Rick and Morty adventures.
idk man, how does one even redeem a broken god?
@@matheussanthiago9685I’ve come from post season 6 to say… by SOMEHOW making you feel invested in an episode that has a character shooting piss.
Jack shit I’m leaving has such screw you guys im going home energy
Theory: C-137 built the central finite curve isn’t a crib, it’s a prison. He built it to imprison Rick Prime and narrow down the number of universe he could hide in. But sadly 1% of infinity is still infinite and C-137 still couldn’t find Rick Prime.
How ironic that he shit on rick for being heartless while he is the one killing everyone in his way, even his alternate selfs
Well it can be possible that the rick that killed rick C- 137 Family comes from another universe where he isn't the smartest guy. (probably from evil morty universe where evil morty is the smartest guy)
I think it maybe was the opposite. I think that Killer Rick accidentaly stepped over the curve in to a dimension where Rick wasn't the smarter nor wanted to be a great scientist, but his need of revenge after his familly was killed made him enter the curve and become the smartest Rick of all (exactly because he is not part of the curve, or at least shoudn't be part of it. So he became an almost impossible variant, the smartest Rick of all).
But yeah, in the end i think your theory makes more sense actually.
Infinity is really a disturbing notion once you try and wrap your head around it. The idea that there's a whole other pile of universes where Rick isn't the smartest man alive, but rather just some asshole, is really humbling.
Most op move, putting the filter option on around your own existence.
0:40 No Morty, being a total psychopath is what makes you evil.
Evil morty: I'm evil because I want to leave
Also Evil Morty: Literally murders hundreds of Rick's and Morty's with blender blades for what can best be sumerrized as a booster shot for his escape.
from his perspective they're all NPCs for Rick's distorted game
he's literally zero reasons to care for any kill, if it wasn't him pulling the trigger it would be a Rick
@@matheussanthiago9685 Evil Morty's hatred of Ricks is extremely hypocritical.
"What are you going to do about it?" "Jack shit, I'm leaving." "That's what makes me evil, being sick of him. If you've ever been sick of him, you've been evil too." Evil Morty could have killed Main Rick, but didn't. He did take power in the Citadel, but that was a means to an end. He also killed a lot of Ricks and Morties, but I don't think he ever killed anyone who wasn't a Rick or a Morty. And all the lives he's taken are probably not even one percent of Main Rick's total. Evil Morty wasn't looking for revenge or power, he just wanted freedom. To be free of Rick. He took over the Citadel, became a secret dictator, and killed thousands because THAT'S what it took to finally get completely away from Rick.
It's crazy on how much Rick can do. He can not only travel through multiverses, but seperate them as well. Pretty crazy shit
smartest man in the universe
What a damn good pay off for the evil Morty story line. Kind of glad that they do one episode per season following this arc. I'm guessing next season will probably have to do more with evil Morty though which I'm all for!
The inherit irony in evil morty's ideology that he doesn't accept about himself is that he's also responsible for most of the problems he demonises Rick's for.
He does nothing to solve them, in fact he actively makes them worse just to serve his own needs. He's more Rick than any Rick out there, which is probably why he hates them so much.
Yeah, but you can make the argument that he had to be in order to escape. After all, he didn't build any of the machines. he didn't make the blenders used to shred multiple ricks and mortys to power the citadel's big laser. He's just using it as intended, as Rick intended for it to be used. And I think Morty accepts that on some level because he needed to be. Rick made an artificial multiverse where only smart people like him can succeed, so evil morty realized he needed to become just a bit like Rick to finally find success and escape.
I would argue that what makes him evil Morty is torturing hundreds of Mortys to make his way onto the citadel so he could trick all the Ricks into a giant fucking blender.
Not, wanting to leave.
Cause=/= justification.
Moriarty knows he can't fix the system. So he's doing the next best: he's leaving.
"Oh look at me, I'm only evil because I got sick of Rick."
You had a torture wall of Mortys which protected a Morty concentration camp..........
Cause=/= justification.
@@Mixinnitup I didn't say anything about justification...?
@@HunchbackOfNotreJon your comment implies that Evil Morty here is saying that he should only be seen as evil because he's sick of Rick(hence justification. That you presume he's justifying his actions. He is not)
Rather, when that President Morty says that being sick is what makes him "evil" he is saying that those feelings are what caused him to act as he did.
@@Mixinnitup Evil Morty: Every version of us has spent every version of all of our lives in one infinite crib built around an infinite fucking baby. But I'm leaving it. *That's what makes me evil. I'm sick of him. And if you've ever been sick of him, you're evil, too.*
Morty: Did you really leave the Crows for me or did you just come back because they dumped you?
Evil Morty: There you go, kid. *You're Evil Morty, too.* We all are eventually on this side of the curve.
No, you're evil for the torture wall, concentration camp, and mass genocide.
Infinite Fucking Baby. Damn right, what an incredible callout. I want to know about the writers here and the behind the scenes of everything that culminated in this episode.
*In their Mind, they are the Underdog, they use it to Justify this.*
And that sums current Rick self destructive legacy:
The guy what wants to go agasint GOD and champion of chaos. But everytime someone makes him fell mortal, whenever intentional or not, he goes ballistic, he wipes their memories, destroy planets and galaxies alike and literally abandon to escape the consequences rather than admit and try fix the mistake he made; like the Cronoberg dimension.
Rick is a the metaphysical version of an ansty edgy teenager what thinks a justification for being an asshole is an excuse to be an asshole and escape the consequences
....you tortured hundreds more mortys than you needed to in your first major appearance, you're a little more evil than our morty
Not true. One morty per rick, but Evil Mort was absorbing Ricks, thus requiring more mortys. He had a bunch, but maybe his end game required more ricks, and he simply amplified the smart shield in advance.
Rick building the wall was his way of protecting other universes from outside threats but also himselves. A wall works both ways, keeps things out but also in
My take on the central finite curve... Rick didn't build it just to be the smartest in a closed universe, he build it to protect his wife and kid in alternate universes from outside forces that would try and kill them (Evil Ricks?), since they were still alive in all those alternate universes inside the curve... until his wife still died from something unavoidable, but his daughter atleast still got to grow up.
Evil Morty would have made a damned good Rick. Look at how masterfully he avoids taking any blame for his own terrible actions and tries to center the narrative around his favorite excuse of just being a poor put upon underdog who is only considered 'evil' because he is opposing Rick and wants to break out of the central finite curve Rick has trapped him in.
Remember when Morty fucked with the squirrels? Rick said that they could only go to another reality about 3 more times before they're out, despite him claiming there's infinite realities.
This is why.
evil morty is so evil, he created a whole presentation for a dramatic exit.
"OH! You've got me dialoguing!"
''Tonight, the quality of dialogue stops mattering. Tonight...I do that thing I wanna do. With the Curve thing''
-Morty, ''Evil''
This is so crazy and impactful a moment it should have been the series finale.
He's no evil Morty.
He's the Rickiest Morty...
Man, no one humbles Rick except for Evil Morty
Also, "Now you're Evil Morty too" that goes hard
“Jackshit, I’m leaving” - 3 words everyone wishes they could say in life #wereallevilmorty
Imagine him just dying when he gets outside the curve.
You know I just watched the simple ricks comercial cause I felt like it and realized they mentioned the central finite curve in the commercial. That might have been the first time we ever heard of it.
They mentioned it once before during Ricks trial. One of the Citadel chairs said “of all the Ricks in the Central Finite Curve. You’re the malcontent. The Rogue” referring to C-137
@@tanaka173 well. Seems I was wrong. But still I find it amazing that they reference this so many times and no one ever questioned what it was.
@@josephlinton1376 I thought it was the part of the multiverse Ricks had mapped out so they could teleport to them. A small section of the infinity.
@@stanpines9011 honestly I've listened to evil morty explain the central finite curve several times and I still don't understand what it is. Is it supposed to seperate the smartest ricks from the average intelligence ricks or is it supposed to seperate c-137 rick, smartest rick, from other ricks of equal intelligence? I don't know.
@@josephlinton1376 the central finite curve is there to separate the universes in which Rick is the smartest, from the ones in which he's not. They built this "wall" to be sure that in every universe in the central finite curve, Rick is the smartest. That also makes him the most powerful being in all the universes included in the curve. Basically, he's taken away the possibility to have anyone that has better technology existing in or even close to his universe, or getting in.
Evil morty isn't evil because of the things he does. Constantly in the show we're shown rick who exterminates multiple versions of earth, kills far more people with zero consequence. General violence in this show is not meant as moral commentary outside of specific episodes/scenes. That's why we aren't crying in a corner after every episode because the violence we're shown isn't meant to have weight.
The point of this him saying "I'm evil because I'm fed up of rick... sooner or later we all are." Is implying rick's relationship with morty is inherently abusive and as morty grows up, matures and demands respect from rick that's when rick treats morty as evil. It's meant as an observation that abusive people will nearly always put the blame on their victim when their victim starts to demand more respect.
It all makes sense. It was always weird how Rick stated that there are infinite universes and bc of that nothing matters, but completely contradicts this notion when he brings up the fact they can only jump to a new reality to live in only a handful of times. How if there are infinite universes can you only jump a handful of times? Well that's bc Rick was lying 😂