Peugeot Canbus Hacking

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  • reverse engineering peugeot 407 canbus communications.

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  • @roberthorwat6747
    @roberthorwat6747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome work! Plan to do this for my Peugeot 406 but never have the time. The trial and error must have been insanely time consuming but believe me I am truly delighted that you shared this. Go for a drive and record the CAN messages - DOH!!! Why didn't I think of that!!!! As for the mileage, the chip that spies on the cluster mileage resides in the BSI unit that piggy backs onto the internal fuse box. (Atmel 25020 or similar - cant remember). Put in a new cluster - hey presto, mileage preserved, put in a higher mileage cluster and thats your mileage, finito Benitto! Have to write mileage in hex to both chips to fix. Total pain in the bum🤬

  • @steveguest8028
    @steveguest8028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very interesting,I’m a vehicle tech and I can tell you now that very very few technicians actually understand how this module to module CAN data stuff works,all we look for is that there is a signal(CAN H and CAN L)present but no one actually knows what’s in these data packets ....Great video btw

    • @porloc
      @porloc ปีที่แล้ว

      You are not vehicle tech😂

    • @steveguest8028
      @steveguest8028 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@porloc Explain ?

  • @JonoSann
    @JonoSann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can messages are natively either binary or hex, very rarely ASCII or decimal. Your rpm and speed signals might make more sense if you convert them, as well as the cluster activation signals.

  • @madrandomize5115
    @madrandomize5115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish someone could make a can bus recorder , like a black box for your car. Just in case you need to prove yourself in case of an accident.

  • @randomscience4k
    @randomscience4k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting topic and nice video!

    • @vampyryannik7334
      @vampyryannik7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I saw that I wanted to do that with a Cluster of a Peugeot 206 but I think it still has VAN Bus. Doesn't work at all. I have some Captures, adresses etc but I cant control it. Do you have some knowledge or also just CAN?

  • @vampyryannik7334
    @vampyryannik7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!
    I wanted to do the same thing with a cluster of a Peugeot 206 but supposedly it has VAN Bus (even tho it is a newer one after VAN Bus was scrapped) and I cant get that to work unfortunately. Idk maybe you know something about that.

  • @ThomasMather
    @ThomasMather 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty cool stuff!
    Have you got any designs for your own unit yet? Perhaps a follow up video? :p

  • @abdimokanovic3185
    @abdimokanovic3185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting this. Quite an interesting project. How much time did you spend on it?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  ปีที่แล้ว

      about a month for the initial success

  • @JaviCavero
    @JaviCavero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, mate!!
    I'm setting up a test bench with the instrument panel of a Puegeot 407 but I'm struggling to find the wiring diagram, could you tell me which pins (and in which order they are numbered) the two pins that provide +12V and GND? also CanLOW & CanHIGH?
    Thanks in advance and congratulations for the video.

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sorry i cannot recall the wiring

    • @JaviCavero
      @JaviCavero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ReabowRotors What a bad luck! you were my hope! haha Thank you also for answering, if in some monentl you remember something or you will find the diagram or technical documentation, pass it to me if you remember, please!

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JaviCavero if you find the Peugeot 407 wiring diagram it will tell you

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JaviCavero otherwise check my other widens and my instructibles page on canbus hacking for a photo of the back when wired up

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JaviCavero images.app.goo.gl/RvdyKemQ2Rige3iZA
      Pins 1 and 2 are the canbus.
      You will need to use a multimeter on your car to figure out which is power, but I think 18 is ground, you can use a multimeter to find pin 18 which will then make finding the others easier

  • @gtr44844
    @gtr44844 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I planning to do similar project, but I don't have enogh experience todo it. I need help

  • @demil3618
    @demil3618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    /COMPUTER science/ for me.
    However, an interesting project. I‘d be curious to control glow plug and injection timing on a diesel to adjust it to cooking oil.
    Judging from the fairly high revvs this one was a petrol engine, right?

  • @guillermomerdinian8756
    @guillermomerdinian8756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thanks for the video, can you upload the CAN recording? I need to move a steering pump and I need the message too send it to the pump. THANKS again

  • @CameraRestore
    @CameraRestore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, thanks for sharing, hope your project went well.
    One question: did you change these settings directly on the EEPROM only or there's something else that needs programming?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just using the arduino

    • @FirstLast-tx3yj
      @FirstLast-tx3yj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredReabow hello i would like your opinion about my current project
      I have a bmw Dual clutch transmission gearbox with its factory transmission control unit(tcu).
      Aftermarket companies have a solution to swap the gearbox into other vehicles by connecting a can high and can low wires from their companies ecu to control the gearbox
      My project is to instead of using can messages from the ecu I use an arduino with can shield connected to the transmission and send the same can messages that the ecu would send to trigger gear change (given that I have the Can messages responsible for shifting are previously sniffed and documented)
      Is that a possible and reasonable project??

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FirstLast-tx3yj yes i think so

  • @muconetbill
    @muconetbill 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello,
    I have a 2018 peugeot 301 vehicle. With Arduino CANBUS, I can get values like rpm, instant speed. My goal is to get the vehicle's instant mileage and fuel status in the tank. As you described in the video, is the ride recording CANBUS values and then analyzing them one by one? How should I proceed? Thank you. I'm waiting for your answer.

  • @DivineMisterAdVentures
    @DivineMisterAdVentures 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, so I got from this that a car's ODOMETER reading, in 2020, CAN BE HACKED. Uh-oh ..

    • @410kane
      @410kane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's frowned upon by government but possible

  • @nore3dsmax
    @nore3dsmax ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have the schematic of the pins?

  • @Donato77777
    @Donato77777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Do you do speed conversion fittings in Japanese Honda Odyssey 2014 ?

  • @SimonPlatten
    @SimonPlatten 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you help me capture data from my A5? I have an odb2 cable and a can bus shield but I didn’t see anything when I connected it to my car. I also bought a can bus Crocodile.

  • @stephenaki6180
    @stephenaki6180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate I'm running a project on my Peugeot 205 has a Peugeot 406 v6 3.0 engine in I am wanting to install a 12.3 inch display off ali express with an android driver board I need to add analog inputs for indicators and fuel level I can run tourqe or dash command threw the can high can low wires direct from ecu the fuel and indicators don't go threw the ecu can you help me I wil pay for your time

  • @eduardsumedrea
    @eduardsumedrea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey this is really useful info, i want to make a custom android radio using a raspberry pi. Could you send me some of the info you found while doing this project like the canbus codes id and the way data is handled in it. Thank you in advance

  • @davesmith95
    @davesmith95 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea about code frames and total this and that.. i wonder if there is a reader that can tell what the codes are after packet sniffing. .

  • @cpproctorpro8750
    @cpproctorpro8750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I saw your work on getting cluster to work with adrunio , amazing . Can I ask if you have managed to create a program to run cluster , I am sisabled at home and building a sim rig , I have managed to get a hear knob from a truck with switches working , wit a usb joystick encoder , and now have managed to get a set of citron stalk working for indicators , and have just bought a peoguet. 308 cluster , and have a adrunio uno , and a shield board , so needed help with pin outs or software .
    If you can would be great thanks ,
    Ps I’m not allowed to drive as disabled so this my only driving I can do lol

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go to knstructibles.com and search for how to hack a car, I put a comprehensive tutorial there

    • @FirstLast-tx3yj
      @FirstLast-tx3yj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredReabow sir please save my life... I want a gearbox connected to Can to work as standalone for a racing application
      The plan:
      Put the car in sport mode(because i want the gearbox in race setting)
      I start sniffing the messages
      I will drive and shift the gearbox normally all throughout the gears and reverse.
      Then i buy a junkyard gearbox then i use the arduino to put these messages on the canbus so the junkyard gearbox will think it is in the car in sports mode
      Now at this point:
      1) does the gearbox shift in the same pattern of my drive
      2) does the gearbox wait for me to move the shifter and then shift with no problems because it thinks it is inside the car??

  • @nikolamilovanovic9942
    @nikolamilovanovic9942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, could you maybe upload your file for can communication with cluster ? im making sim rig with 407 dash and speedo, but can't find anything about conecting it to arduino. :)

  • @Lancia112
    @Lancia112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, this is amazing. Good work and I really mean it. Can you tel if it is hard to record canbus from the car ECU and then send it in a loop to the car BCI? My problem is that my car(Peugeot 407) no more hava a gasoline engine, its naw electric. The computer in the coupe waiting for a signal that the engine is runing. All electric dont work like heatsystem, headlights, whipper etc before the signal "engine running". What hardwere dgo I need? Raspberry pi 3?
    Thanks in advance!

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would need to record the ECU that detects if the engine is running and the alternator charging then replay in, but yes it is possible

    • @Lancia112
      @Lancia112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@JaredReabow Thanks for the answers, which hardware had you chose, it need to be cheap, posible to stay in the car and play over and over again?

    • @morcibacsi
      @morcibacsi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lancia112 I would give a try with an ESP32

    • @user-vg6hu1mq8b
      @user-vg6hu1mq8b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello sir, did you have success? I have the same problem after engine swap, computer needs a signal to enable electronics in my peugeot 206

  • @JoeBob79569
    @JoeBob79569 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why are additional devices needed?
    I mean, why can't you just read the raw data via usb, from the can to a computer, and then decode it on the computer?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because there is no way to plug a computer into the car

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredReabow Ah right. What I'm looking to do, is to get the can info (to and from the display menu and ac controls) to work on an android head unit. My thought was that I could read the can data and send it to the android unit instead, and write a simple app to mimic the peugeot 407 display.
      I was thinking to use the usb port and data pins on the android unit for communication..

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeeEmJay Yea, I have an Elm, bluetooth, but I'm looking to get the data from the head unit and the display. Like volume controls, menu options, and controls, AC, and temp display, etc. The elm devices only seem to give you rpm, fuel, speed, etc.

  • @thomastj9448
    @thomastj9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wer sich damit nich auskennt wird seine Karre hinrichten

  • @ManuVisentin
    @ManuVisentin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Im using this shield to sniff my car network. Where can I send you some questions?

  • @airplanejack
    @airplanejack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you make it read from
    The SD card and transmit to canbus?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually made an array with the recordings and hard coded it on a loop

    • @airplanejack
      @airplanejack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredReabow have you got any example code or anything I could have a peak at?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@airplanejack just the code on instructibles.
      Search my name and you will find it

    • @airplanejack
      @airplanejack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredReabow thanks, but can’t see anything regarding reading the SD card

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@airplanejack I did not read the sd card, I manually copied from it into the code as an array.

  • @bennguyen1313
    @bennguyen1313 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Voltage to the back of instrument cluster always 12V?

    • @JaredReabow
      @JaredReabow  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @410kane
      @410kane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is. You can look on alldatadiy for your vehicles electrical diagram and find your 12v power, ignition power, ground, etc. I did this using a Mercedes s500 cluster.