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Science, Religion, and the Big Bang
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@@chloroplast8611 y r u so mad
Sounds cool but a little crazy and with many unanswered questions. Such incredibly complicated theories only to, subconciously, kick God out of the scene. God is Alpha, no beginning. He created ecerytjing in a clearly intelligent way.
I'm too afraid to look at the comments.
I did look at them and found yours.
+Tony Koter what is it?
+Jack Jr his comment
+yrjosmiel73 I came here just to look at the like/dislikes and comments.
It's hell down there...
"It's been so everywhere you don't even need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how every it gets."
-Bill Wurtz
THE SUN IS A DEADLY LAZER
@@kibriahelal5698 NOT ANYMORE THERE'S A BLANKET
God doesn't exist bro
I thought I was having a stroke while reading this.
IT’S THE CAAAAAMBRIAN EXPLOSION
"Thats how every it gets."
Man of culture
That’s a thing, in a place!
@@andrewparker318 Don't like it? Try new place!
@@aytekinkaraca5971 in a different *time*
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This is really superb. Best description I've heard of what the Big Bang really is.
+Abderrahim BOUGUERRA
Just because some people interpret a book as agreeing with science doesn't make it in any way relevant enough to be deemed 'confirming'. The most popular religions outright dispute life on other planets, or the fact that the earth revolves around the sun and is round.
Religions may confirm science in some interpretations, but science doesn't need to be 'confirmed' by fairy tales.
+PBS Space Time You guys should do a collab with minute physics! That's be pretty awesome to see! :D
so chaos produces information! ? brilliance!!!!! i think the "in the beginning" had better evidence than this
Agent Paste
Earth revolving around the sun is not a fact lol!
The Big Bang has been totally proven false today by modern science itself!!
Lorenzo H
Modern Science has discovered and proven time and time again that the Earth is the center of the universe. Because of this fact the only viable conclusion is that it was designed that way from the start.
Since the discovery of the predicted CMBR in 1963 ....scientists in 1978 discovered "disturbing" anisotropies in the Cosmic Background Radiation (CMB).....that according to the Big Bang hypothesis must not be there. It is so disturbing that after almost 10 years of preparations... NASA sends up the COBE Probe in 1990 to investigate. COBE confirms there are "problems" for the Big Bang!
They then send up another probe in 2001 specifically to focus in on the anisotropies! The name of the probe speaks for itself....the "Wilkinson Anisotropy Microwave Probe." This probe is way more sensitive than COBE and confirms the COBE findings! However, they also find more "disturbing" and puzzling information via Max Tegmark. The anomalies form axis that goes from one end of the universe to the other. What's more puzzling is that WMAP finds that very important poles of the CMB are NOT random! the quadrupole and the octupole. They both align within the 23.5° plane of the earth right to the ecliptic plane! This was dubbed the Axis of Evil in 2003! Why evil? Because it completely undermines the very foundations of cosmology & cosmogony! It falsifies Einstein, Hubble and the LambdaCDM (Big Bang).....most importantly...it falsifies the Copernican Principle!! Utterly astounding!!!
And again because of these astounding and again disturbing alignments....THEY send up ANOTHER probe in 2009!!! The All Powerful Planck Probe! Super sensitive and HD and way more powerful then COBE and WMAP! In 2013 the data is released and ALL CONFIRMED!!! IN HD!!! The whole universe is ALIGNED right to the earth's locale!!! Incredible!! 3 probes at a cost of over $2 Billion.....CONFIRM what was hinted at in 1978!!
As in baseball....3 strikes....you're out!
Here's a 2006 article of the famous athiest physicist Lawrence Krauss commenting on WMAP's discovery of these alignments. Bear in mind he's of the mindset that the Planck Probe will later rule the data out as errors or some sort of contamination.
Lawrence Krauss:
"But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That's crazy. We're looking out at the whole universe. There's no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun - the plane of the earth around the sun - the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe. The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is imply incorrect, or maybe it's telling us there's something weird about the microwave background results and that maybe, maybe there's something wrong with our theories on the larger scales." Hmmm...he's saying .."This would SAY we are TRULY the CENTER of the UNIVERSE!"
Here's the link with his thoughts on the very last 2 paragraphs:
www.edge.org/conversation/the-energy-of-empty-space-that-isn-39t-zero
And again one year later in 2007 this from the CMB team Huterer, Swartz and co. appeared in Astronomy Magazine :
www-personal.umich.edu/~huterer/PRESS/CMB_Huterer.pdf
Notice they are asking "Why"....not "Is" because to the team the alignments are all confirmed with confidence despite Planck's future data!! Another ASTONISHING findings from the team is that the temperature of 1/2 of the universe is hotter than the other!!! The dividing line is "precisely at the ecliptic plane"! THE EARTH'S ECLIPTIC PLANE! You'll see the information on the very last page under "Ecliptic Oddities".
They report that the likelihood of these alignments happening by chance is less than 0.1 percent! Lastly on the same last page under: The elusive explanation "Many cosmologists find the various CMB alignments extremely unlikely to have occurred by chance. Moreover, nearly all the alignments point to the solar system’s motion or the orientation of the ecliptic plane. Is there a deeper explanation?"....they are dumbfounded!
The information destroys the big bang and and yet they still must refer to the supposed "motion" of the Solar System and the motion of the earth!!! The earth is supposed to be in "Some forgotten corner of the universe" as Carl Sagan asserted because of the Big Bang Theory!! Yet...today we find the whole of the universe aligned and oriented to "our little forgotten corner"! This means the Big Bang if it has any credibility left whatsoever, KNEW the earth was coming.....and ALIGNED itself ...with the Earth!
The earth is static and the center of the universe. fyi....All laboratory empirical evidence confirms as well! .03% randon 99.97% ....Designed!
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My favourite comment here! xD
Impressive. I had no idea what this means.
Best comment.
Fascinating and informative video! As a Catholic theologian, I would like to point out that the philosophical conviction that "God is Creator" does not exclude an eternal universe. The Catholic conception of God as creator properly understood is that He is the "ground of being," meaning that everything that exists depends on God, not necessarily that things came into being at a finite point in time. LeMaitre knew this, no doubt, as he is a much smarter man than me. Again, thank you for the video. It deepened my understanding of the "Everywhere Stretch" Theory! :)
The Catholic it is the invention of mafiosos lucrative scumbags pedophilus they invented the crappy religious and from there on other religious Branch off just to poison the world and to steal people's money and to teach poison this is your crappy faith and yet god does not exist is just a crappy lie and you believe that scrap
Genesis 1:1 In the BEGINNING God created the Heavens and the Earth.
Your comment is one more reason for Christians not think that Big Bang is a proof of God's existence. Whether or not the universe is infinitely old, it's irrelevant for faith because religious faith and theology are irrational and ilogic, those aren't committed with truth, objectivity and facts.
"The universe as infinitely old" is compatible with Christian faith; "the universe as finitely old" is compatible with Christian faith as well. Everything is compatible with Christian faith.
@naturesinfinitewellthecause unlike their God, our God actually revealed himself.
He became flesh and walked through earth, after he died, he sends the Holy Ghost to guide the Church.
Miracles of the Churchs still didn't die as saints are continuing God's work in the 20th century.
THE COSMIC STRETCH
there I fixed it for you
this comment is really underrated!! you're epic, mate!!
So in summary, we're not sure yet
That's what I heard lol
Franklin Missark - yep, we aren't sure yet, and that's actually what drives science.
And of course we may never know. Science gets better and better, but it seems unlikely that science will ever give us absolute knowledge. It seems to me that there will always be a boundary that science pushes against, but when we overcome that boundary, we will likely discover some new boundary.
The only thing "beginning" at the big bang is the beginning of our current knowledge of the universe.
The theory is based on many things, including and especially _quantum mechanics._
The theory of quantum mechanics has its own problems and limitations, and the limit that the big bang comes up against is _space:_ If the expanding universe is extrapolated back in time far enough, it would at some point occupy a region of space smaller than the *Planck length,* and nothing smaller than that has any meaning in quantum mechanics. We cannot compute _anything_ with quantum mechanics if it is smaller than the Planck length.
The big bang represents the point at which we _know nothing,_ which is totally different to the supposed point at which _nothing exists._
It is pure sophistry on the part of Christians to conflate the beginning of our current _knowledge_ about the universe with the beginning of _everything._
The claim that the universe began with the big bang is nothing more than the old _god of the gaps_ argument.
We're pretty sure about most of it, just not what happened before a trillionth of a trinnionth of a second after the big bang.
If you don't know, you don't know.
This will always hurt my brain. I mean...where did this infinite come from? Why is it here? Oh dear...I need to sit down.
+ByteMe it didn't come from anywhere in our universe, it came from a collision of universes in the multiverse. Also it doesn't need a purpose for existence it just is, kind of like humans.
SuperWhaleProduction Where did those universes in the multiverse come from?
+ByteMe From a much more complex multiverse perhaps... The list can go on and on forever. No explanation is for certain.
ByteMe I don't know since the multiverse isn't proven yet so until we prove the multiverse we can't really ask about the next step
Ziquafty Nny Do you believe in a higher power?
Just gotta say, this video still has one of my favorite visuals for explaining to my high-school Astronomy students how an infinite universe can stretch (and compress) and still stay infinite.
Popcorn doesn't exist.
Grabs God.
I don't exist. Hates god
Your profile pic fits so well.
This is so irrelevant but both the comment and replies has some sort of anime character as a profile picture XD
@@chloroplast8611 you ruined our anime thing
@@grapejuiceexplosion5260 Shame... 🔔 Shame... 🔔 Shame... 🔔
I really like the analogy with the North pole when talking about "before" the universe. That makes the idea of time starting at the "Everywhere stretch" much more sensible in my mind, easier to wrap my head around
My brain hurts after watching this. The concept of time being finite AND infinite is rather scary...
DarkVioletCloud Maybe that ultra compression period defied regular physics and warped space-time so much it couldn't be stable and uncompressed while simultaneously creating time and the physics we know today...
DarkVioletCloud Dont worry.Infinite doesnt exist.Humans created it in their minds because they are fucking idiots.
OPTIKLOPS VII Infinity seems like a pretty smart concept to me.
+DarkVioletCloud It shouldnt
OPTIKLOPS VII Why do you say that?
Be afraid of fundamentalist, in religion, politics, and even science. The universe is a complex place, if anyone thinks they have it all figured out, then they are lying, mostly to themselves.
I Like how a 5 minute video has brought us all together to discuss our universe and it's origin.
How about instead of the "Everywhere Stretch" we call it the "Omni Expansion"?
That sounds so much better :)
Oh yes
sounds stupid.
Alex Kennedy Omni Expansion is definitely better.
Sounds so cool
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BTW, WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?
Shut up god made the world
@@chloroplast8611 MY LEAVES ARE RED
@@chloroplast8611 ok boomer
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I am a devout Catholic and I love Science! Mabuhay! 🌴
@john Peace be with you!
Sven Correction, as a Muslim, studying science and being atheist are two contradictory things
God doesn't exist
Max Wazowski That’s your opinion, do not say it like a fact. Science has got nothing to do with atheism
@@lightscameras4166 WTF the reason I didn't believe in God is not because of science it is because of my depression in my life of how long I've been through of sadness, sorrows, lonely getting bullied Everytime in school and also I've been praying like thousand of times still prayers doesn't work for me
At least professor Lemate are telling people that believing in God doesn't mean "believing Earth was flat like a giant pizza and only 6000 years old" because so many religious people also become a scientist, and the infamous one is Issac Newton.
It's "Lemaître" by the way. Just FYI :)
and darwin
***** But Darwin was anti-christian. Just ask all the various xtian cults and sects. The majority will answer that his teachings go against the xtian version of reality.
Funny how apologists grab on to one man's beliefs, beliefs he professed in a time when professing any other beliefs would reduce or eliminate his opportunities to publish, and quite literally risk him being exiled by religious freaks. Why do apologists always forget the two hundred years of screams from "mainstream" Christians that Darwin was wrong, Darwin was a fool, Darwin was a tool of the Satan character?
On man's probably coerced religious affiliation does not magically un-do hundreds of years of abuse and vilification by that same religion.
Actually both Darwin and Newton are famous for voluntarily leaving substantial room for god in their works, as it was part of faith.
Contrary to (what I think) you believe, science and religion are not opposites, just two different languages.
an overwhelming majority of scientist these days are atheist or agnostic. However in newtons days it was a lot more common for scientists to be religious so you are right about that
Everywhere stretch sound like a porn movie title
+MrRamazanLale2 big bang duhhh
+Jaivardhan Deshwal lol, exactly
Big bang bros
and so does "big bang"
Omg, this made me think of the Universe from Excel Saga xD
One of the best videos I've ever seen. It explained in 5 min what I was cracking my head for months.
Thank you! It always drives me nuts when people (including many of the most brilliant scientists) describe the universe as expanding out of a small point which, if the universe is indeed infinite in size, is impossible. It actually makes a lot more sense that the universe was always infinite in size; the big bang was simply when it expanded ( since infinity can still expand, like the famous example of the infinite hotel), ie we emerged because the universe stopped being infinite in density. Put another way, loss is what creates matter.
WARNING: This comment section is saltier than the Dead Sea
good one
LOL this is youtube.
+G argler these kinds of salt never die.
Found the Jew.
DID YOU JUST ASSUME HIS RELIGION? Jordan also has a coastline on the Dead Sea.
*looks at title* "Oh this is gonna be good" *looks at comments* *grabs popcorn*
Jemma Kennedy LOL
I eat chips while reading the comments
I’m getting so many warnings of how salty the comment section is. Still gonna keep scrolling though.
04:30 then you’d have to answer, “What was the beginning of the previous universe?”
Paradoxical
Another one
infinite universes
@@NEPtune-fy1ug Where did those infinite universes Originate from?
User 122 3 I don’t think it has to have an origin. I mean, sure, I would like for there to be a beginning because it makes more intuitive sense, but I don’t think it’s necessary. I’m not a physicist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we discovered that the “beginning” was just the collision and subsequent rebound/reaction of all matter at once, due to gravity. A cycle which would restart once the momentum from the “rebound” decays due to entropy, and gravity brings everything back together again. I’m sure I’m missing some important details, but that’s what makes the most sense to me.
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"Ooh the comments will be interesting!!"
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Science, Religion and the Big Bang? I guess I'll skip this one.. it feels pretty dangerous here.
KiraAsakura14 ..
no body gonna eat you here.
KiraAsakura14 Hi Nagisa
Watashi wa Anata ashti des
What is this cancerous broken Japanese transliteration? And why are English speakers so obsessed with trying to use "anata" in normal sentences?
First, there is no "ti" sound. "N" is the only character that can end a syllable. "Des" should be "desu", no freaking clue what "ashti" was supposed to say. Please, never do that with Japanese again.
AnixiasPlays chill
Gotta love reading these arguments. Don't know why but they're always interesting to read and or listen to.
Some are pretty entertaining.
+Jarun Dekart
It's probably in our DNA to be curious about the supernatural. Or maybe it's the other way around. It's in our DNA to think about the supernatural, therefore we are curious about it.
Somehow it doesn't matter where you are on the internet. The god topic comes up.
+777Skeptic Or maybe God made us this way. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
mike shaft
i c wut u did thar
Agreed.
That zooming in and out of all the boxes makes me uneasy😬
Lol
what about entropy though, having a one shot universe makes more sense entropically
Believing in God and Science since my birth.
-Normal People
Not since my birth though but I see your rhetoric :)
You will eventually find yourself in a big dilemma.
***** This is the case everyday.
I solved long time.Always doubt because God gived us free will and we can doubt his existence but I found truth.I will not force you because you need to find your own truth but i will help you.
In case "normal" means ignorant, lead by wishful thinking - then yeah, it fits your description.
The more I research this topic, the more I understand why so many people pick religion over science: because it's so much simpler.
Shahm Shaar When in reality, it isn't simpler at all ahaha
Because its comfortable. Believing in good things happening to them and divine punishment for those who should be punished. That's also one of the reasons.
Matthew
How is religion not simpler?
Any question? God did it.
Inorganic Vegan Lol yes of course. Forgot about that.
***** Some of us use logic _and_ faith too. Before any logical conclusions can be made, some basic assumptions must be made. You cannot derive something from nothing. Using religion as my basis, I can understand the world around me. I use science to explain _how_ things work, and religion to explain _why_ things work. I think this is fair, don't you?
Georges Lemaitre actually noted his idea of an expanding universe originating from a denser past in 1927, before Edwin Hubble's actual observations of a galaxies drifting apart in 1929. Just a minor clarification.
After watching this video.
My brain: Ight, Imma head out.
"Before time began... There was a cube."
Len Frantora trainsformers :))
Len Frantora here comes frantora theory
*the
Before time existed, there was an egg.
"We know not where it comes from..."
but wouldn't the cyclical universe theory violate entropy?
U debunked the whole video mate XD
@@habouzhaboux9488 lol
Yup, but not the expanding theory. The chanel has a series of 5 episodes covering that topic.
Expansion of space has nothing to do with entropy. Expansion of space isn't caused by a kinetic moving of matter and entropy only has to do with kinetic moving of particles.therefore there is no contradiction
@@SuperMenders well, if the space shrinks then the particles move closer and closer to each other.
In Hinduism there is a concept of "Kal chakra" which means "circle of time", the circle is divided into 4 yuga (time zones), A Yuga is an age (or aeon) in the wheel of time. Each age has its own intrinsic characteristics.There are four yugas : Sathya Yuga, Trétha Yuga, Dvaapara Yuga and Kali Yuga.The present age is the Kali Yuga - the age of decadence. In the Sathya Yuga, the age of Truth, righteousness was at its peak. As time passes by, there’s a gradual decline in virtue which reaches its nadir in the Kali Yuga. At the end of the Kali Yuga, the Divine Will intervenes and restores the universe to its original state of virtue. This marks the beginning of the next Maha Yuga and the cycle thus continues.
It is like a never ending cycle of life and death.
That's...oddly beautiful in a way.
Before the Big Bang became an established working theory, religious people said "God did it." After it became common knowledge, the religious said "God made it happen." The wonderful thing about being religious is that you can always argue with conjecture and speculation, rather than evidence and facts.
Derek Slade so tell me again where the facts say it is eternal because I didn’t see much here I kind of actually saw a prof for god in saying that how are the laws of physics how they are
ok mr reddit
Like science?
It's good to see that religious people say the """big bang""" is a lie when it was a priest who said that's what happened. It is also good to see that atheist people disprove god but have no idea how it all started.
Both sides are really amusing, really.
THEPELADOMASTER Which side are you on?
dpacmittal2 I'm on the side of the people who believe what they want and don't try to change other people's beliefs.
With that said, I don't believe in god.
THEPELADOMASTER "I don't believe in god" ~ lmgtfy.com/?q=Define+atheist
***** I never said I'm atheist. I said I don't believe in god.
THEPELADOMASTER Can you tell me what your understanding of the definition of an atheist is?
woahhhh you just blew my mind. so there COULD have been infinite universes before this, with it's own planets and life for who knows how many trillions of years, constantly expanding and collapsing. exact versions of us could have existed in those infinite universes. exact versions of us could exist again. we're just part of the ride. so many worlds from which life came from, evolved, and then died forever. Wow. I know it's just a possibility, but what a mindfuck :D
If you ignore the second law of thermodynamics.
I think that's the Consolation of Haldane, right?
Rodney Burton No it still works with the 2nd law. In an infinite universe very unlikely things happen all the time.
***** So it works with the 2nd law if you assume that the 2nd law is wrong?
yeah i cant get my head around the concept, that something that already exists never had a beginning. isnt that a Paradox?
As a Christian, this video is so clear and beautiful. Thank you
@Powerful powerthe r/atheist dude
@The power Atheism is pure nonsense and delusion.Believe in everything come from nothing.
@Sachin Rawat You believe a ancient cell in macroevolution led all living things to exist, that cell must be highly intelligible, contains enough data to produce life and omnipotent ! do you see the point ? We christians know that as ancient cell is not a cell but a God ! a cell cant create anything without intelligent data.
@Sachin Rawat if you ask me proof for God I will tell you to look the creation or I will ask you to pray to Jesus just once with sincere heart and you will find !! But what if I ask you for the proof of non-existence of God ? no scientist like issac newton or Nikola Tesla are athiest ! They believe in higher power(God). Even bible says this : psalms 14:1 The fool said in his heart there is no God. So what are you according to bible ?
@Alone lover ugh cringe evangelical atheist
2:40 the “infinite expansion” works better then “everywhere stretch”
3:58 As someone already pointed out, the expansion of Universe is not slowing down, it's accelerating. Strange you made such mistake, considering the discovery of it was awarded with Nobel prize.
He is talking about the time before. After the big bang, or however you wanna call it, inflation stopped and the universe started to expand at a much lower ratio.
To be honest, I just came for the impending religious war in the comments.
“In the beginning there was the heavens band the earth” if “earth” implies our universe (the language genesis was written in didn’t have “universe” in it and so earth was commonly used to describe our realm like how Vikings used midguard to describe our realm”and “was” implies that it has always been that way than the Bible lines up with science very neatly
Actually genesis 1:1 says
"In the beginning God created The heavens and the earth" the word "heavens" is in the masculine plural in the Hebrew and can mean Sky, heaven, atmosphere, abode of the stars or the Universe, so "the Heavens" means the entirety of the Universe.
@@reginaldking9906 Hold up so when they say going to "heaven" they mean the universe? Space?
@@bl4ckrabb1t TvT
@@bl4ckrabb1t no just like you have a word bat for an animal and the word bat as an object, you have heavens as an epic place and heavens as the universe.
ŤhəBl4ckRabbıt there are multiple heavens according to scripture. The first heaven is the atmosphere. The second heaven is outer space. And the third heaven is very rarely mentioned but usually interpreted as a place people go to after the end of the world.
Non-religious but I appreciate the measured response about religion that wasn't just bashing. All religions, not just Christianity, have their own creation story. As we learn more about the universe through science, a true believer in any religion will welcome this information with open arms.
wow, what a really respectful way to explain this, I'm a Christian and found this interesting and am really glad you made this video. To be honest, I was scared to click on it because I was expecting a slam fest, but it wasn't. Thank you, good sir. I wish I could subscribe again. :-)
And this is exactly the reason why the comment section is not as salty as the comments in the comments section claiming that it would be salty are claiming it to be.
This was not a religion bashing video and was respectful of the possibility of God or at the very least understanding the rational conclusion that some people have made to say that something unexplainable could be explained by the existence of a deity.
@@erobed21 We don't believe in deity, it's a bullshit
the concept of god is so medieval it is worth bashing. but that's not the right way to teach people science. promote rational thinking and delusions will go away by their own
@@MorbiusBlueBalls Reading this comment really makes me think that your username is your actual description 😂
@@ham2thedan delusional:
*_Video has a Vsauce feel to it_*
@Tony Droid Or does it?
@@afakeaccountofcourse.8463 *Vsauce music starts playing*
@@zhandr304 and as always, thanks for watching
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The big bang is the expansion of existing matter, not the creation of new matter from nothing. The changing universe
Have you ever considered our universe being shitted out of another universe?
Its amazing you haven't been nominated for a nobel prize.
Ikr
Joeby That's it! I'm nominating you right now!
The stretching slowed? Isn't the universe "stretching" faster and faster?
+Szabo Tamas AFAIK it's the difference between faster and faster over time vs over space. It's stretching faster and faster the farther you go out. The farther something is from us, the faster away it is moving. This would be true even if the stretch is constant in time. The farther things are the faster they move relatively regardless of how fast the stretch is happening (so long as it is pretty much constant in space). But during the "expansion" period, the universe stretched as a whole very quickly (doubling in size in a short period of time). I'm not sure if we know the rate of stretching right now. But the rate of stretching change was faster "in the beginning". Again, AFAIK
+Kurt Kreuger actually I think the universe is stretching faster in both time and space at the present time. The thing is, in the beginning, it was much much faster (inflation) and then it slowed down, and then it started to slowly speed up.
+Aeroscience Right, I think that's correct. Thanks.
The stretching was very rapid initially, as in milliseconds the universe would more than double in size. Now the stretching has slowed in that proportionally the overall size of the universe changes more slowly. However in terms of absolute distance stretched, ("analogous" to volume of the universe) this continues to increase.
as it becomes larger it looks as if its going slower
3:51 - "Once time began, whenever that was". LOL :)
"God is not the same kind of explanation as science is. God is the explanation of why there is a universe at all in which science can be done." -- Dr. John Lennox
"Gods are the explanation for lazy people". Dr. Me
WhereDaNuggetz rebuttal?
@@teeeeop9376 rebuttal of what? you mean the comment above, nah i just can't be fucked xD. i will say this though, if we find a ocument from lets say 300 A.D we take it as fact and endorce it into historicle factors, so why not take the bible, a collective of over 40 different writers all origionally dated from B.C to A.D (early).
@@drejaquez it was 3 in the morning
@@drejaquez also still doesn't dispute the point.
just cant wait for the TVseries "the everywhere strech, where nobody knew what the hell was going on"
After watching this.,.,.,.,
I don't even know ,what i don't konw
This is mindblowing shit to think about when you're high. Sucks that we will never have the answers.
Maybe not with that attitude..
we will in the future
@@yeetri1034 or in the past. See that? I just blew your mind!
I always liked the concept that mankind through time travel created the big bang making all of existence one big paradox.
Upsilon dies backwards
@@eve_avery Do not watch ^this^ unless you want to break your brain.
Closed timeline is worse thing that complete Annihilation,Cause of the stagnant growth
The plot of ben ten
@@justsomerandomguy4127what happens in ben ten? also goated pfp🤌
when something become to be eternal (with no beginning) and I think about it, I get headache :S
i recomment dont try to think too much into it
Try religion. "God did it" it so much simpler.
Jeff M
i'd prefer logic over simplicity
Yami No Yuusha Well im afread logic havnt found it out yet, not stating i dont believe that science will find an answer to what happend "in the beginning"
I usually just don't think that a past and future never existed and the only thing that exists is the now.
I don't get why people tend to see science and religion on opposite sides. What if god really is just the sum of all rules - the logic behind everything. The bible does not really define what or who god is.
The bible (and so do other religious books) states a lot of what people interpreted and thought at the time it was written. They didn't have the math and knowledge so they came up with ways to explain rain, the stars etc. with their interpretation of a "human-like" godly beeing. What they were really trying to capture was the essence of it all, but they wrote it down in their own, 2000+years old words.
If we read it today, we should take care to "translate" this into our modern world. When we refer to rain today, we don't refer to a "man in the sky" who moves the clouds with his hands. We have seem and proven that rain can be explained with math and science. But that doesn't mean it's not related to god. We should instead update our understanding of god.
I would start with the most obvious question: "Which "god"?" but I digress, the question itself has become tedious and somewhat annoying...
I think your rain analogy has clearly described the God Of The Gaps argument. But again, I digress for the sake of tediousness.
Updating our understanding of a "god" is a problem when there's no universal consensus of what a "god" is or even should be, as you have pointed out. Even different sects of the same religion can't seem to consolidate their own beliefs, so how can anyone expect to build upon "our understanding of god" when the foundation is so precarious?
how can he be the rules and logic, when everything about it is absolutely illogical?
You know why it's supernatural? Because it is outside nature. You know what's nature? It's everything that exists. God is outside of everything that exists. Therefore it doesn't exist. And it's not just rhetoric. There is a good reason why it's labeled as supernatural: because there is no possible ways to solve any of the huge pile of logical contradictions related to it.
Donnie You are right, but I disagree that god is supernatural. He might be supernatural to our everyday-life experiences, just as the maxwell eqn. or the speed of light is supernatural to our experience. Still we know its there. Don't take this example too serious, because comparing god to scientific equations is a rather bad comparison, but I think you get the idea.
My thought is more like this: You can imagine a completely different set of rules to describe a universe, equations that are consistent and logical in themselfes. They would (if they were real) define a completely different universe. However, we find the universe to work in a very specific way. Don't you wonder why it is exactly that way and not any of the other possibilities? That's the kind of "logic behind everything" that I mean. It's not outside of nature, its the very core of it and its something undiscoverable - by definition.
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The discussion of a deistic god seems to be the most pointless of all. Even having conceded to it being true and real, so what? It ultimately doesn't change anything.
If anything, it would logically lead us to believe that, to quote Krauss, "we're even less significant than we thought" being that a god of that magnitude has undoubtedly created an infinity of universes, much like you have described in your thought experiment; all with different rules, constants and laws.
In this version of god, we have no reason to think ourselves special in any way.
TheSlowGrowth "just as the maxwell eqn. or the speed of light is supernatural to our experience" - no, those things are not supernatural to us. They conform to logic, they don't contradict what we know. The notion of God - does.
But then where did the super tiny compressed bit of space that somehow expanded infinitely come from??
God made
The world
Science doesint explain anything
That's what science can't explain😂
@@chloroplast8611 nice name you got. Sounds like some science term.lol
@@igormorozov666 god made everything. Including science
Minutephysics: what’s north of the North Pole? Me through muffled laughter: the South Pole.
*WHAT*
Technically yes, if you say that 3D is real.
This video helped me confirm my desire to be a physicist. A thousand thank you's. College here I come.
Hey what are you doin now
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the primeval atom sounds awesome so much better then the big bang
for real
1:55 is very satisfying to watch
This video is proof that science and religion compliment each other. They answer different questons marvellously.
Science answers the questions: How did the universe come into existence? and What is the universe?
The Bible answers the questions: Why is there a universe? Who/What made the universe?
I don't see much clash
Go to hell
@@chloroplast8611 if you are an atheist, i expect this. If you are not, shame on you.
Argotha are you sure I’d expect this from people like him.
@@yeahkeen2905 no. I said I expect it. Well, not so much expect. Rather, not surprised.
I was always thinking about an inversion of a previous universe, not a "bounce". It's like shrinking a sphere of "anti-universe" into infinity, and then it starts growing again, but the outher points never changed direction. The collapse of an anti-universe is the expasion of a universe.
Sometimes I feel like im the only religious person out there who also believes in science. I believe science explains *how* things happen and Religon is the *why* things happen. I also don't honestly care if its logical or not . Were all gonna die and the universe supposedly dies too...so why bother hating one side or the other? Not like it matters in the grand scheme of things.
Just go out, have fun and enjoy your time however you can. That's the true meaning of life, to be happy, experience joy and to bring joy to everyone you meet.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. I agree with your idea that we should just enjoy life, but personally I believe looking at science to try to understand the universe is extremely important. Naturally humans want to make sense or meaning out of the world. This is the reason for religion and science. I think it is of great benefit for us to keep trying to search for these answers, to make our species more intelligent. I find that that is more important than religion, but thats just my point of view.
ModCrafterBot And that's perfectly fine. ^_^ I never said we should stop science, if anything we need *more* science.
Science is about the discovery of how the universe works and the betterment of mankind.
I just hate it when people get this smug attitude towards me because I'm religious and automatically assume I am uneducated or somehow don't believe in evolution.
Too many people being assholes for the sake of being assholes. *Still* its always nice to see someone who feels the same that we should just enjoy life and live together. The only way mankind can survive into the future is if we learn to live with each other, and accept one another as they are.
And laser rifles, so we can blast alien scum when they try to mess with us X3
Religion and science aren't polar opposites, nor are they even two sides of the same coin. In actuality, they have nothing to do with each other. Religion can interpret certain scientific things (like some people interpret "let there be light" as the Big Bang) or the creation of Human (translated from Hebrew as "Adam") being made from Clay, aka the earth, where life is theorized to begin and evolved out of. You can interpret many things that the Christian Bible "claims" as alternate views of how we were made, and you wouldn't be completely wrong.
The point is that fighting over whether or not science or religion is right is completely arbitrary. We all have different beliefs and different ways of looking at things. Arguing over how two things don't line up seems pointless because it doesn't change anything. That's why Georges Lemaître was still a Catholic after his discoveries and theories. Because...why wouldn't he be?
Religion and science are not opposites. They are simply two things that happen to co-exist with each other.
+uknownada thank you sir you gave me hope
Finally, someone gets it.
If you can believe in quantum mechanics and the universe expands to 'nothing' and 'infinity' and that there's a probability of a particle to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (space-time) and can even interact with itself, then it's really not that hard to believe in the probability of the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient God.
I’m a Christian and I love science. Praise the Almighty Creator
RandomName Last Name I do believe some churches try to use religion and guilt to control folks/gain money. I am a woman of science, Im in college however I’ve seen with my own eyes the miracles God still does today. Paralyzed men get up and walk in the name of Jesus Christ. There are a thousand testimonies online of people still getting healed today. God exists and there is proof
RandomName Last Name
There are many scientific journals that argue in favor of Gods existence. They just arent as popular and you have to look for them
www.theguardian.com/science/2016/mar/07/hand-of-god-scientific-plos-one-anatomy-paper-citing-a-creator-retracted-after-furore
www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/877/debating-the-existence-of-god-god-exists
As for people suffering in africa (or anywhere) pain is temporary, just like this life is, and eventually we’re taken to heaven, or the another after life, or said people are treated with medicine or with miraculous healing, through the church of christ, and continue on with their lives
Prayer may result in benefits that are due to divine intervention
“Although the very consideration of such a possibility may appear scientifically bizarre, it cannot be denied that, across the planet, people pray for health and for relief of symptoms in times of sickness. Healing through prayer, healing through religious rituals, healing at places of pilgrimage and healing through related forms of intervention are well-established traditions in many religions.”
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802370/
In another systematic review, Crawford et al.[31] examined the quality of studies of hands-on healing and distance healing that were published between 1955 and 2001. There were 90 identified studies of which 45 had been conducted in clinical settings and 45 in laboratory settings. Crawford et al.[31] reported that 71% of the clinical studies and 62% of the laboratory studies reported positive outcomes; and that the overall internal validity for the studies on distance healing was 75% for the clinical investigations and 81% for the laboratory investigations. Major methodological problems of the identified studies were an inadequacy of blinding, dropped data in laboratory studies, unreliability of outcome measures, infrequent use of power estimations and confidence intervals, and lack of independent replication.
RandomName Last Name if youre interested in proof of the after life, research near death experiences.
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As for me, theres nothing wrong with believing in science and a creator of the universe. I also saw the feet of christ one time, among various supernatural occurrences in church. His presence is wonderful. I inquire you to seek Him in this lifetime and youll fall in love. Open up the word of God and seek with all your heart and youll be amazed
@Han Solo I am young but I think throughout my life, God has let bad things in my life happen to teach me lessons and for me to learn from them. I think God also gives free will to us and we are all sinners and do bad things to each other. Therefore we seek for forgiveness from God for our sins. So, now you are wondering why would God give us free will? Well thats where Im stuck. I think maybe He wants us to choose him and not just him force us to choose him. I'm just happy we are not in a perfect world or else what purpose would I serve?
You are a Christian and you love science?? Talking snake / donkey, demon pigs, 900 yrs old man, virgin birth, walking on water, resurrection, flying chariots of fire, Noah's Ark, curses, and levitation into clouds?? Really??? LOL
Nice! I FINALLY understand why there may be no 'center' or outer edge of the big bang. Thank you!
Wow. I never understood the concept of a singularity, but this cleared it up so much! Great video!
"Science adjusts its views based upon what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."
Their just different interpretations of the same evidence, just like different scientist have different theories. Science hasn't answered any big questions about the origin of life, and can't prove there is no intelligent design involved. And pretty much is defended as the mainstream worldview by insults and catchphrases at this point. And concentrates on attacking Christains who are told to love their enemies, instead of spreading the insults out to all religions, I don't see atheist insulting islam, go look for yourself. Go look at the comments on islam vs evolution videos. Where's all the atheist at insulting religion???? Lol. Atheist only pick soft targets that believe in forgiving their enemies! They don't have the stones to insult muslims, cuz some of them dont take insults very well but have similar views on creation as Christains. That right there looks weak on its own.
Darwin knew there was a problem with evolution math and figured science would advance enough to figure it out, but every question science answered leads to 10 new questions, and that's not progress. All science can say is life adapts to it's surroundings over time. Scientist cannot nail down the origin of life, abiogenesis. It only states the incredibly obvious. The world changes constantly so if life is gonna work it has to be adaptable.
@@bearthalamas9241 Just because science doesn't have all the answers it doesn't mean an invisible magician in the sky did it - unless religion has indoctrinated and radicalized you to be a dogmatic brainwashed unthinking intellectually dishonest fundamentalist. All religions are man made.
@@bearthalamas9241 Correlation doesn't imply causation. There are about a quadrillion uninhabitable planets out there and at least 8 of them are in our solar system. The big bang is the expansion of existing condensed matter. Nobody know if the changing universe is eternal or was created. If without evidence you claim there is an eternal God, then you can save a step and assume the changing universe is eternal. So, it's quite likely that earth just got lucky in its formation and delusional folks are praising an imaginary God.
@@bearthalamas9241 Neither abiogenesis nor evolution needs God. The evil COVID19, influenza, malaria, etc., are DNA/RNA based. They can't be God's creation or naturally modified versions of it due to imperfections because by definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. Since nature by itself has created the living RNA/DNA of those diseases, then nature by itself is capable of creating life from non-life.
@@bearthalamas9241 Religion is a scam that uses fear tactics to scam the gullible fools who obviously lack critical thinking. Religion threatens the fools with an imaginary hell for not believing in an imaginary God, and rewards their gullibility with an imaginary heaven.
Bottom line the way I hear this video: nobody KNOWS anything about the creation of the universe, if there was a "beginning," or not, or what there was "before," or anything.
I find that comforting.
I knew this would spawn a bunch of arguments.
I mean why would we be mature when we could just argue relentlessly and act like children, right?
I'm just tired of these comments, always the same thing, ignorance begets ignorance... religion vs science, why?? Both can coexist and still a lot of these comments just want to get rid of religion altogether or vice-versa, scientific fanaticism is not different from religious fanaticism, both are equally stupid and ignorant, closed minded to the other side's arguments.
A world without religion, or any belief?? Much good that will do, a world without any kind of morals, virtues or laws, where everyone can do anything they want with no regards for the fellow man.
A world without science, back to the stone age! Great! Where people die without treatment, rely on witchcraft and shamans or whatever to offer prayers to the gods... among other countless things!
Sincerely I find it hard to care anymore, for me the Human race could just go all to hell, if it wasn't for some decent people I know in real life! If one wants to loose faith in Humanity just come for 5 minutes to the youtube comments section.
There should be a formal test before enrolling on these sites, a basic test of common knowledge, common sense and a psychological test to see if the person isn't just a frigging troll out to annoy other people for their own amusement or some kind of psychopath!
Ahh I'm tired... someone just kill me now, it would be a lot more painless than seeing this kind of behavior...
Uh, wrong on all counts. They cannot coexist, history has proven that. Religion is superstition claiming to explain the natural world. Science is the most reliable source of actual explanations of the natural world. There is inherent conflict.
You know all those people around the world who do charity work to help the poor and care for the sick and feed the hungry? The people who put in long hours, months, years of their lives helping others out?
Yeah, well here's a fuck you on their behalf sport. Fuck you for claiming that if the gods or magical beliefs hadn't made them do it, they wouldn't have. That's an arrogant insult to the entire human race. At least 75,000 years ago, people were living together peacefully and morally, making art and music and being kind to their kids, generous with their neighbors and caring for the elders. They clearly did it without any of the gods that we know about today, which means that even if the gods were responsible (which they're clearly not) then all of today's gods are the wrong gods when it comes to which of them cast magic spells to make people behave morally.
*Humans rock* and shitbag religious apologists who throw the whole of our highly evolved humanist morals under the nearest bus at the drop of a magic hat should be called out for the arrogant, insulting assholes that they are.
Fuck you for claiming that I'd be a rapist or that I wouldn't give to charities or that I wouldn't share my fucking sandwich with someone who was hungry unless the gods had cast a magic spell on me.
You want to know why religion and science can't coexist? It's because you religious types haven't even begun to think about identifying that ring-ring as the clue phone, let alone tried to pick it up. You lecture on the gods being needed as the source of morals while reality shows the gods are clearly immoral, and it doesn't even fucking register on you. Religion *is* responsible for almost all the immoral laws and immoral practices throughout human history. and where it wasn't directly responsible it was usually complicit with the powers in charge.
Religion has had its way twisting and denying the truth, retarding the progress of the human species, and denying or insulting the innate greatness of the human species for long fucking enough.
You want to sing Kumbaya and eat some magic crackers and wash them down with holy water? Go comment on religious videos and tell everyone that the gods are great and the gods are the only things that keep us from raping and killing schoolchildren while eating dead babies. You'll find a receptive audience. Until you try to settle the "do the gods hate foreskin or not?" question once and for all. Then you'll have a bunch of religious fuckheads instantly ready to kill each other over bits of someone else's penis.
When you've got that all sorted out with them and shown us how great and get along religion makes people, then we'll draw cartoons of all the gods your happy religious families share, and you can pass them around... and watch how jovial and moral they are as they slit throats over a fucking cartoon and shoot doctors in the back because they don't share their religions.
Here's an example from my channel why claims of religious superiority should be discarded. Don't tell me that this is "just a bad egg", religion is used as the basis for threats, intimidation and violence every fucking day of the year. This is why religion and science can't coexist, because scientists don't threaten to kill other scientists simply because they don't agree on a theory.
Jeff Blob
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you will be hunted down and killed.
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Folks - that is is typical of the responses Christians make when they are called on blatant lies. He's hysterical to the point of public histrionics because he cannot respond to the simple fact that religion is inherently immoral and has itself demonstrated this fact continuously for thousands of years.
I've approved his comment to be shown on my channel because I have a question: Why is the boy just talking? Why is he just running his mouth? Why doesn't he just bring it?
Let me guess... the gods are telepathically communicating to him, staying his "fists of death", and he doesn't want to get blood on his magic underwear (approved of by gods from around the world except the ones that don't allow the eating of pork or the keeping of foreskins)
The more religious people are, the more immoral they are. He's just another of thousands examples we see every day, and his type are why I choose to speak out against religion.
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ExperienceCounts2
Wow man... relax! Is it really necessary to insult me in almost every line? I just made a point that hate from both sides is wrong, and I presented the generalizations I see the most in youtube. Do I agree with them entirely? NO, but those are the tops excuses from both sides. Maybe I wrote it down a bit wrong, English is not my main language, so give me some leeway.
You took my comment as an attack on science and it's role in the progress of the Human race, when that's not what I was pointing out at all...
For your information I'm a scientist working in the field of nuclear astrophysics, the pursuit of knowledge is my quest in life. Science is essential in improving and advancing the human race.
Also did I said anything about excusing religion for all the wrongdoings they did in the past?? That shit was wrong, even if you take in account the times they were done, but what can it be done about it now? It's in the past, and the past can't be undone unfortunately, what we have to focus is preventing those things from ever happening again.
Also I didn't say atheist are bad, and that their actions are governed by some magic entity. Sincerely I just don't care about that, if people are helping others, why the hell should I care if they believe it's God's work, or just out of the good in their heart, or just because? Does it really matter the why? If people get help and comfort and their life improve as a result, I don't care about the religion or lack of it from the people doing the help.
Besides, how can you say all religious people are immoral? I'm an evil and immoral person because I believe people should be helped and respected due to my scientific and religious education? Thanks man...
Religion indeed has been a force of oppression and even genocide for the most part of History, it's an easy tool for rulers and governments to take advantage, manipulate and abuse. But the idea behind it, that people are good, or should do good things it's not wrong. Did it become a force against science for the most of time, YES! Does it have to be forever? NO! Also does science has the right do to everything it wants? NO, there are somethings even you should find immoral or whatever. Should that keep us from compromising and finding solutions together to advance the huma race? Hell NO! All I wanted is understanding from both sides in trying to end this hate between one another.
This is getting long, but I just want to make things a bit more clear. I don't believe that people are inherently bad, but the youtube comment section is a bottomless pit of hate and ignorance., and that makes me angry and disbelieve in humans. Fortunately in real life I have examples of good people around me from all kinds of beliefs, countries and also atheists and agnostics. So when I said to hell with mankind, did I intended to say, kill all humans? NO! But I was angry at all these comments, so I over reacted. I'm sorry for that, but youtube gets on your nerves...
All I was trying to say is that hate from both sides is unjustified, and we should work together. If you find that impossible, well I can't change your mind, I do believe there's room for both. The power of Humanity as a whole as a force for good makes me believe in something.
I just hope you can see that not all religious people are intolerant and fanatic. I certainly I'm not, at least that's what I strive for, being tolerant and understanding of others.
P.S.: Regarding your other post, you are right, no one has the right to threaten another person just because they have different opinions about something . But this is the internet, people think they can threaten and insult at will, I sincerely don't believe that. But who am I to criticize, even I sometimes loose my temper, and do stupid stuff, not an excuse for that behavior, but it happens unfortunately :S If he continues with that, just report or ignore him, it's the best way to deal with trolls and haters.
religion and science can coexist
Christianity and science cant
ExperienceCounts2 Religion doesn't attempt to explain the natural world. Science is human knowledge about the way the universe works - it is the result of observation. Why should it conflict with religion? If so, how come there are devout people of all religions who are dedicated and brilliant scientists?
LeMaitre based his idea of the Primordial Atom on Einstein's theory of relativity, not on Catholic doctrine or any other religious idea. He also published his paper more than a year before Hubble published his findings about the red shifts of galaxies.
"Because the early universe was dense and hot everywhere space-time was also curved everywhere. This manifests itself as a rapid expansion everywhere". How does hot/dense mean space-time was curved? Its it because hot/dense means matter/energy and we know that matter bends space-time from general relativity? But at this "singularity", doesn't all the understanding of physics breakdown? Or is this a question of extrapolating and assuming physics is still as we know it?
I do have a problem wrapping my head around all of this, so maybe I'm just going crazy and this is super logical.
Agreed. And also i cant wrap my mind around "the universe expanded very very fast for some time and slowed down" part. Isnt the expansion is faster the further we look and doesnt that actually mean that it is not slowing down?
Serhan Sarıoğlu
At the moment, hypotheses like the Big Crunch or Big Bounce are not necessarily ruled out by current observations, but it is generally considered based on continuing experimentation that the most likely fate of the universe is something along the lines of a Big Rip, in which the expansive force becomes so strong that space, time, matter and energy are in a sense torn apart and rendered futile. This outcome would render the Big Bounce nigh impossible, and could suggest that both the beginning and end of the universe were/will be unique events, but this still is almost as hard to wrap our minds around as the notion of an eternal universe is.
This video did a pretty good job overall with the history and general science, but it left out a fair deal of other relevant info to leave it's final remark.
the infinate square thng really tripped me out
Thank you for this awesome video! It explains lots and lots of really difficult ideas in a simple way. Now I can continue imagining things about the universe but in a richer way.
The probability of the entropy state at the big bang is 1/(10^10^123). That is a decimal number with more than a googolplexplex zeroes, more zeroes than atoms in the observable universe. The hard-drive that would be required to store a number that long in bits would be bigger than the volume of the observable universe. It is the most unimaginably improbable thing that could have happened.
What’s the difference between religion and cults
I don't even know anymore. I honestly thought it was the definitions, but once I took a closer look at it, I now don't know the difference.
@@nihilisticotaku7907 Stupid immature troll
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A troll? Hmmmm maybe in some cases I am but not in religious debates.
@@slalteredmusic8506 the fuck, chill, so aggressive
A religion is a collection of free thinkers who have arrived at the same or similar conclusions often with certain lifestyle regulations. Islam or Christianity.
A cult is an entity (man or group) who dictate thought and action to their followers. Think People's Temple or Jehovah's Witnesses.
They should be easy to differentiate but a religion can be very easily bastardized into a cult.
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
If you watched the video you'd realize that every single part of that statement is false, including "in the beginning.". If corrected for accuracy it would read "In the beginning of the current, known state of the universe there was a singularity that expanded."
IngetKant did you watch that video? He said that it maybe possible and that not it is.
As hilarious as that quote is, I feel I should point out that the Big Bang is meant to explain the creation of the observable universe, not whatever came before it.
Also, apparently none of us have watched the video.
A man of culture I see. Mr. Pratchett was the best.
As a Muslim, I'm...Actually, I'm really, _really_ scared to scroll down. Holding back the urge.... So tempting...
Don't do it dude.
umCallum I have to...helppp...
you're a muslim? so you believe the most powerful being in the universe who created everything chose a pedophile (Mohammad) to be his 1 and only messenger
Inferval ...He's not a pedophile? Where did you hear that? He did not marry or have sex with a 6 year old or a 9 year old or whatever.
Read the Quran you bloody peanut.
TheRedKunai *sigh*
I don't think I'm in the mood for this right now.
This is by far one of my favorite videos you’ve ever done. Out of curiosity, does the ending of this video need an update? I know that for a time, scientists were thinking that the universe might be collapsing down again, but I believe that has been disproven. So is it still thought that the universe might still be eternal based off of science?
I think the video left how to many things to count. It explained even less. Nothing against the author since these are minute videos. He didn't really explain what he meant by the math "breaking down." What it means is that the math leads to infinities. Time, space, matter, energy is compressed to the infinite. This means either one of two things. 1. We are missing something in our math. We are of course. Quantum gravity hasn't been reconciled with relativity. That doesn't mean that a reconciliation would result in a solution.
2. The infinities that the equations lead to is the mathematical equivalent to nothing. That what we are witnessing is the literal creation event of a universe.
My understanding of the "big bounce" that he spoke of and the "big crunch" is that they are no longer viable but that is always able to change as we learn more.
@@blusheep2 Thanks for your response. I agree that the video did leave a lot of questions unanswered, but I only really expect a bare bones explanation about Big Bang Cosmology from these videos. I recently started dipping my toes back into the waters of all of this fascinating stuff and found that you are right. The “Big Crunch” and the “Big Bounce” have been mostly tossed aside since there is no evidence of the universe shrinking back down. I saw a fascinating discussion on the Unbelievable? Channel between Sir Roger Penrose and William Lane Craig that you might find interesting. It’s a few years old, but Sir Penrose offered an interesting theory that still results in a universe that has always been around. All answers though, do leave more questions. lol I mean that for all sides of any discussion on this topic. That seems to be the on going thing when you delve into physics, cosmology, and origins in general. Here is the link if you want to view the discussion I was talking about: th-cam.com/video/9wLtCqm72-Y/w-d-xo.html
@@leftykiller8344 I think the real issue in the discussion is the way by which we define "eternity." "Infinties" are matematical symbols and I don't see any reason to believe they are real. They are real in the abstract and they are real as potentials but I don't think there is good reason to believe infinities exist in reality. Nonetheless, everyone talks about timeless existence which is what I think "eternal" means but at best, that tells us an eternal object exists without a way to measure time.
There is a discussion about A theory and B theory of time. I think we experience time according to A theory but if there was a creator that was eternal then it could be possible that this creator experienced a time that was not governed by space and therefore a B theory of time. Maybe that would explain eternality.
@@blusheep2 That is definitely what most people would agree to be a concept of a supernatural being, and would also be a definition of eternity.
A lot of people (mainly theists) I've spoke with have mentioned the BGV Theorem, and how it ruled out the possibility of an eternal universe. What are your thoughts on it?
I don't understand science therefore God did it!
- christians
That seems to apply to a lot of religious people in general.
Jeff Brondo
Come on guys, can we not get into these arguments?
Noah Williams no because people like Jeff Brondo want to make us slaves to an invisible man.
Jeff Brondo 'I refuse to believe anything that makes me accountable to a creator.
-Atheists'
When you say accountable to a creator what do you mean?
Jeff Brondo
Moral laws/principles?
All you have to do is read the Old Testament and see what immoral laws and actions God condones.
But that is not my point. My point is life is possible without a creator. Even if it wasn't there is no proof or evidence for such a creator anyway.
All these non scientists in the comments section who barely know anything about science or mathematics and just want to disprove religion.....
Still an entertaining comments section 👍
"The only thing that we know is that we know nothing."
After all, none of us is sure what is true to which is not. Your argument still depends in your own perception and beliefs. Stop arguing people. None of us knows the truth.
@Jvelocity Happy new year mate... guess we are the only ones from the future^^
None of us knows the truth? Is that true?
@@bobfridge that's so true...
If you say that universe had a beginning then it is a religious belief.
But if they say that the universe is eternal then it becomes a scientific fact.
Am I right😁
@@samdon3693 Impressive. Everything you just said is wrong
edit: woah you replied so fast, I was still writing my second comment, sorry about that
The comments are surprisingly wholesome, good job guys!
the -big- -bang-
the everywhere stretch
The everywhere stretch postulate:
Leopold: Shane, are you reading graphic novels again? [Audience Laughs]
Shane: I'm reading green hornet. [Audience roars with laughter]
LET THE RELIGIOUS BATTLE BEGIN!!! Who wants some popcorn?
Bartosz Kruszona
Or Coca Cola?
Bartosz Kruszona Lemon coke? I'm in.
Brock Fielder
Lemon coke is shit!
Bartosz Kruszona Well I think it's awesome!
I don't like pop corn too much, unless it's with caramel.
Actually, Georges Lemaitre didn't think that Big Bang was God's place. In fact, he explicitly told the pope not to say so. The catholic view is that God creation is happening througout time and univese and that the BIg Bang is "at best" (ie considering the actual state of science which might change) a marvellous image of God's creation. There is a prudence in the catholic viewpoint that should be taken more into account.
Great video! Though I think it's worth saying that Lemaitre never claimed that his descoveries proved the existence of God or anything like that. Some religious people at the time did, but Lemaitre mantained that that was a flawed interpretation.
He came up with the math for the Big Bang because he was a scientist, not because of any religious reasons.
Finding religious reasons will only steer you away from science
@@logicalatheist1065 I'm not sure about that. As long as you're doing proper science, you should go towards the truth.
Like, maybe you're curious about some topic because of your religion and want to research it. If you're a good scientist it should take you to scientific truth. That's the good thing about the scientific method. Whatever your intentions are, it will take you towards knowledge if you do it properly.
@@logicalatheist1065 You clearly know nothing of how Isaac Newton came to his discoveries then. Remove logical from your username, it doesn't belong there
@@MrRand0mGamer religious beliefs have nothing to do with science... Science is the study of the natural using the scientific method.
It's irrelevant what religion a scientists belongs too... Doesn't validate anything about it...
Yes logical remains... Care more about your education
@@Carlos-ln8fd science doesn't support any religion being "true"
Science is a method to determine things about the physical world.
Spirituality is a method to determine things BEYOND the physical world. (metaphysics)
Neither one can determine if one or the other exists or proves the other, because they're the wrong tool.
Science determines things about the physical world.
Metaphysics determines thing beyond physics.
Using science to try and disprove religion is like using a hammer to solder a wire, It's simply the wrong tool.
DerickTherving "Spirituality" isn't a thing.
***** From my experience, it is very much so a 'thing.'
DerickTherving Your experience means nothing to science.
***** I never claimed one backed up the other, simply that using one to determine anything about the other is using the wrong tool for the job.
Very intelligent comment. Thank you sir.
Every time I watch on of these videos, I get mindf*cked
I know I'm really late and probably no one will read this but anyway I thought a bit about it and if you want to explain this to someone simpleminded who has never seen a video on this channel you can just say this: imagine you have a room and put furniture in it. now imagine that the room becomes progressively a lot smaller and everything is squished together. when the room becomes large again nothing was in the place it originally was because when the room was really small all the furniture mixed up because of the pressure. now make them think of imagining this instead of how it could make sense since it doesn't but if you think by picturing the scene instead of thinking how it could make sense you basically made them understand the concept of space-time stretching.
Yeah, that about sums it up... "imagining instead of how it could make sense, since it doesn't". So it's essentially like saying "Assume there is a sensible interpretation of this description" Then, "understanding" that description is a statement of "Belief" that some sensible interpretation exists.
Question: isnt the universe expanding at a faster rate than it used to?
Yes but scientists didn't know this in 2013
Tom ahh ok that makes sense. I didnt realize when the video was posted lol.