THE BEST & WORST TOMATO VARIETIES OF 2022 | SEASON RECAP
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- Our 2022 tomato season is officially done in the backyard garden here at Lazy Dog Farm. Join us to see which varieties performed the best and which ones we won't grow again.
We'll also discuss the result of an experiment we did where we added a fish in the hole beside one of our plants. Did it make a difference in production or plant health?
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My grandfather was an avid fisherman and always buried the heads and guts in the garden. He swore by it, but he also went through the depression. He like many from those times didn't waste money on fertilizer, canned all the fruits and veggies from the garden and most of the meat on the table came from hunting and fishing. The way things are going in this world, we may not be far off from those times again.
Amen to that. I’m afraid it’s well on the way.
My grandpa was big on burying shrimp shells for the same reason. Also, if you bury that stuff it doesn't stink up the yard waiting for trash pick-up day.
@@mattpeacock5208 At the least just bury it in compost pile, I never throw any organic material out unless suspected of contamination from glues, fire retardants, etc., such as cardboard and packaging materials. If it was recently living it goes in the garden or compost, such a waste to toss in trash. (pun intended)
Obvious exceptions for stuff suitable for burn pile which I harvest 'biochar' from, still far from wasted.
Hello Travis, I’m here in South Georgia about 200 miles east of you in a small town called Pooler Ga. just outside of Savannah Ga, I’ve been growing tomatoes in my small urban backyard garden for 25 years now. This year I grew 15 indeterminate plants with 8 of them hybrids and 4 heirloom. I’ve never put fish underneath my tomatoes ever but decided to try it. I put one can of sardines in water in the plant hole and covered with pulverized lime to mask the smell. The results were just WOW!!!!!! Out of those 15 plants they produced a whopping 204 lbs. My biggest was a Big Zac at 2lb 3 oz. and had 57 over 1 lb. By far the best tomato grow out I’ve ever had. The only thing different than my normal application of nature safe 8-5-5, Blood meal, and bone meal was the fish ( Sardines ) I also did one additional application of 8-5-5 and 2 soil drenches with agrothrive bloom, maybe planting directly in the hole is a better option than off to the side. Enjoy your vids and liking that your moving more towards the organic side of things.
You should get you soil ph professionally tested because you were probably seeing the benefits of the lime rather than the fish…tomatoes love calcium and lime can increase nutrient availability if your ph is not correct
Hey, we are practically neighbors! I'm right across the bridge on the SC side. I'm gonna try some of your methods next year!
@@loganyoutube4818 I think your right ..ive never tested my soil but used grandpas weed method. Type of weeds ahow what ya need....doesnt work really...did for him tho...so he must of.forgot to tell me something..lol...im pushing 80 and well...doesnt matter to me that much anymore...its.great.exercise and hobby....expensive this year especially when your on fixed income and prices are skyrocketing
For first time ever I grew 4 tomato plants from random yellow tomato (and apparently a red one) on my 7th floor balcony (in Latvia) in only 3 gallon buckets, so I only got 20~ tomato's per plant
3 of them were yellow (didn't have the texture & juice of the red ones, but were still sweet tasty)
so for next year I ordered sun gold cherries seeds ( heard very good things from every gardening channel I watch)
Apsveicam!
I'm a simple tomato gardener. I like Roma's, Early girl, better boy and big boy. Simple yet reliable
Wow, Travis, you were right about the gnats - they're about to carry you away! 😁
My dad always said that you need a rip on the backside of your overalls to keep the gnats out of your face.
One of the tomatoes I grew that was new to me this year that I have enjoyed is the Korean Long. It has a wispy growing habit, but they are the sweetest fruit I have ever gotten off of a tomato plant, way sweeter than a Sungold, and very meaty. They are just average producers though. I grew over 20 varieties of indeterminates and 4 determinates. Striped German produced well for us this year, and Abe Lincoln is my go to year after year for growing 2 pounders. My Kelloggs were not up to par this year, and I had changed seed companies and wonder if that has something to do with it. We will still have production on the indeterminates until October if they don't get blighty. My determinates are coming out of the garden here in about another week. We grew Red Snapper, Bella Rosa, Tachi and Martino Roma. If anyone is looking for a Roma style and struggles with blossom end rot, I would recommend the Martino Roma. Not a single one has struggled with blossom end, but they were a smaller roma style tomato. Very productive. Thank you for doing this recap on your tomatoes! You have given me some new varieties to consider for next year.
Those green tomatoes will make some amazing green tomato Salsa Verde. It taste so good.
Great information ☺️
Thanks for the info on the maters ! I buried an egg in the hole and I can tell a difference in my plants. They were sturdy and we are still getting fruit !! Take care and God bless you all !
I did an experiment with FISH. It's a YES for me.
Rose variety of tomatoes are one of my favorites. Big fruit, good production and flavorful. Grows well here in Maine!
I've been using the string trellis system for 3 years now. I set mine up the exact same way you do in my raised bed. I just tie my string to the conduit and then I tie the bottom of the string to a large garden staple that I press into the ground around the base of the plant. I just top the plants now when they reach above the conduit. By the time fruit sets that high it's time to pull them anyway. I love your channel, Travis, and always learn something new every episode. Can't wait to see your peanut harvest - perfect timing for the fall, as football season is right around the corner and boiled peanuts are a must while watching the games. Go Dawgs!
Once again, I highly recommend Red Torch. Tasty little plum tomatoes with solid heat tolerance. You gotta grow yourself a couple of those next year.
Go Dawgs!
Dang Travis! You weren’t joking about those knats. I think you should have worn your knat britches when you were sitting on the back of your buggy. 😂
I did the fish thing one year but I let mine dry out first to almost like leather beef jerky then put it in the hole. Seem to make a difference the plant did very well.
You are killing me by throwing all those maters away.I couldn’t do that for nuttin
Love your experiments!
Thanks Capt!
So happy we found you on your new channel thanks from Ontario Canada.
I’ve never buried a fish by anything I’ve planted, but I’m a big fan of fish emulsion and I noticed a marked improvement in my tomatoes when I started using it. I think you are right in your assessment - those plants were so well fed and watered that any benefit from the buried fish was overshadowed. From what I’ve read fish actually break down pretty quick and the worms certainly had something to do with that. I think in your case it probably isn’t something you need to do, but for other gardeners they may seemsome noticeable benefits. Great video and looking forward to Wednesday’s installment!!
Hi, Travis hope you are doing good. I am going to start my classes in horticulture on August 24th wish me luck.
Awesome! You'll do great!
Fascinating. Here in farther N. Commifornia my tomato season lasts until the first frost, not all may thrive until then but many will. If I cover them I might get them into December. (I'm a rank novice in comparison)
Oxheart is my favorite heirloom tomato so far in my short volatile zone 3 area. It survives a light frosty start and long hot days(45c~115f) like now. Never seen 1 crack or split from rain either so I get to eat more for the pruning efforts 👌. Thanks for the fish experiment results 🍻
Great video I have tryed fish before I found it best to just eat the fish and throw the donkey crap to the maters
Glad you mentioned the Paul Robeson. I've got a tray full of those growing for this Spring. They are the most robust plants in my mix so far.
Mine took 19 days to germinate but very strong right now in early June. Slow but good so far.
Didn't get my tomatoes in till the second week in June so they're just now starting to come in. I've read in history books where the east coast Indians would put a small fish in when planting corn. I've thought a lot about this, I can see where it would be an advantage where soils are poor and the thought of fertilizers are a hundred years away. Today I think the biggest advantage for fish would be the addition of extra organic Phosphorus from the bones breaking down, but like you said it would need time to do so, possibly using several goldfish sized over a single large one.
Well, Travis..😃 The way I learned to use the fish, is to dig your hole where the plant is to go. Then dig down enough to put in the fish and cover back with 2 cups of soil, THEN plant the tomato. My Grandaddy was a Cherokee Indian. He loved to fish for the food, and he always buried those innards either by established plants, or where he was going to grow others. It's not a once and done deal, it's a "life style change" for building your soil. So, you need to do a LOT more fishing ☺☺
Sounds like I do!
Mid July in Aurora Oregon we are lucky to have harvested our first tomato! Our tomato season is Late July to the first week of October.
Our Daddy always used fermented fish guts, scales and bones. After cleaning the fish he caught he added water in the bucket of the fish waste and left it for 2 days and then buried them in between the plants. He done the same for his Rose bushes also. The rose bushes he so big and bush with tons of blooms. They would bloom as long into December.
If you have not tried already , should put Superstake VFN indeterminate hybrid in rotation next year. It’s a Burpee product but maybe other companies have. 1-2 lb mater prutty regular. Very good taste as well especially for a large mater variety. Good stuff tonight!
Lotta chow chow in them green tomatoes... and them little cherry tomatoes can up good whole for stewed tomatoes... Don't be wasting your efforts there Travis... and i love watchin ya, but we may need to get you a set of handcuffs to reduce sign language.. :) keep up the good work. Enjoy your shows..
No hand cuffs! Sign language is a way of life in the south😀. Thanks for all your work Travis and family!
Looks like Travis is trying out for the movie "the Quite place 3". I really didn't notice until you mentioned it.
😆
Don't know why I laughed because I get told I use my hands to talk. Folks have asked if I could talk if my hands were tied.
The answer: Of course but you might not understand what I'm saying.
I tried fish in a hole one year with the Better Boy variety of tomatoes. Had more tomatoes I knew what to do with. And it could have been the composted leaves too.
I always enjoy your tomato review each year. Especially since you grow a lot more varieties than I tend to grow. While not a fish story, late last fall I started to bury bananas that had gone over in the locations where I'm growing tomatoes this year. So far, none of the tomatoes have had signs of blossom end rot. I can't say that is the result of the extra potassium or that the bananas drew extra worms in to create castings that are feeding plants. I'm liking the results regardless and just picked my 1st few tomatoes this week. The only extra fertilizer I have given them is some bone meal a week after transplanting.
Interesting. My boys eat lots of bananas, so I could try that.
Thanks
I used the string trellis system for the first time this year. I have twelve cages I made from concrete reinforcement wire about 15 years ago. They work great, but I grow more than twelve tomatoes. I have used the Florida weave method on indeterminates, but that always ends up being a jungle. So, when I saw your video on the string trellis, I decided to give it a try. I had six foot t-posts, and I had a bunch of top rails from a chain link fence I removed a few years ago. Those worked great instead of using the conduit. The top rail even fits together so I didn't even need the couplings. I pruned the plants to two main stems, and that seems to work okay. Next year, I may buy some 7' posts, as most of my plants have reached the top of the string.
I have experienced some sun scald and uneven ripening on the fruit, but our weather has been extreme, at both ends of the spectrum. May and the first week of June were very wet. Then the rain stopped. Our last measurable rainfall was June 8th, and today will be our 9th day of triple digit highs, with another ten days of the same in the forecast. That's very unusual for us.
Paul Robeson has been a good tomato, as has German Johnson, Kellogg's Breakfast and Cherokee Carbon (a hybrid variety). Big Zac and Dark Star have been okay, but not great. Genuwine and Grandma's Pick (both hybrids) are disappointments. They didn't have much flavor. I have yet to pick a ripe Dr. Wyche's.
I was worried about sun scald with the single stem technique, but actually didn't experience any. Had more sun scald on my determinates than the indeterminates.
I didn't see any difference when I tried fish heads in the hole. Now the last 2 years I have done gypsum and worm castings in the hole and I seem to have better looking and producing plants then when I used fish.
I enjoyed that! I think you had a great overall tomato season! I know that Hollis and Nancy always put fish under their tomatoes. Huh I just saw your explanation, that is my theory too. I reckon if you compared fish vs no fertilizer you might see a difference.
Travis, thank for the tomato review. Looking forward to next season planting as i will only plant determinate tomatoes. Surprised Hossanator did not make your list. Was looking forward to a review.
I haven't grown STM2255, so I can't say much about it.
As someone whose tomatoes are growing and not quite yet ripening, I'm excited because I've got Rose and Paul Robeson plants growing :)
Last year Kellogg's Breakfast was one of my absolute favourites, so I'm curious if it'll be another favourite this year!
I live in zone 8b. Iwould like to plant tomatoes for the fall. When should they go into the ground. Thanks so much for all the information you so freelyly share. Also
are you going to have any fig trees for sale this year. You've got me excited about trying to grow some- Thanks
I'd get them started yesterday if I were you.
We’re in a crazy drought in Texas. I have had nothing but hell out of tomatoes this year. I got one good batch before they started spitting out tiny tomatoes and almost all of them split wide open. That is all on drip irrigation
I'm here too, and struggling as well!
I planted red snapper and romas for the first time this year. I had a huge harvest of each even thru the drought here in AL.plus, they didn’t split. They are playing out now but I intend to plant more seeds soon to replant for fall for the first time. Never planted fall tomatoes. I planted jubilee, celebrity, and a few others but red snapper outshone them all. My cherry tomatoes literally looked like grapevines this year. Very pleased with this years summer harvest.
Red Snapper should do well for you in the fall too.
@@LazyDogFarm ok great! I’ll plant some seeds soon.
I keep my tomatoes down to three varieties: big, small or long. Seeds love to surprise.
I made a similar trellis for my tomatoes a few years back.. I just bought 10' sticks of black gas line pipe and used T fittings.. I drove a pipe 2' into the ground every 10'.. I just leave it up permanently.. This is my 4th season using it and I'll never go back to growing in cages or weaving string.. I tie each branch off individually and then just wrap the plants around the twine as they grow up.. I can spread them out to get optimal airflow around every branch, and the plants seem to like not having to hold themselves up.. My indeterminate plants always grow over the top and almost make it all the way back down to the ground before the end of the season.. I don't grow many determinate varieties but the ones that I do grow seem to grow more vigorously using this method.. I had a Rutgers plant last year that was over 6' tall..
I've grown Paul Robeson and really enjoyed it. 🍅🍅❤❤ Dr.Wyche was okay . I think yellow tomatoes are so pretty but I'm a red tomato gal. I really love cherry tomatoes. I grew a ton of them last year. Blue ones to yellow ones. Sun sugar and Sweet one hundreds are my fav. I will stick with my fish emulsion. 😁👍
I ordered some of the Hossanator seed. They will be ready in a couple more weeks for transplanting. Hoping to get some fall fruit.
The fish takes more than a growing season to break down like eggs shells so it’s probably not very bioavailable at first but I’d keep an eye on whatever you plant in that spot over the next year or two.
I've been using fish carcasses under plants for 15+ yrs. Seems peppers benefit more than tomatoes in mho. Does seem that the bones add a good amount of calcium over the years.
That’s why you use a blender and then pour the fish into the furrow
Gold metal tomato was a great big sweet yellow tomato that good here in Alabama.
Dang Travis, I kinda felt for you wathcing that cloud of gnats hovering over you as you tried to talk lol, They really thought you was a rotten mater. We finally grew those Lemon Boys you suggested and they were the biggest producer for us this year. Great video and thanks for all you do. Have a great day.
Thanks! Good to hear Lemon Boy did well for you.
My top performers this year are Dr. Wyche's and Red Snapper. Dr. Wyche's were delicious, very productive X-large yellow tomatoes. Red Snapper were large, productive and beautiful, thanks for your recommendation on them. They were both more disease resistant than any I have grown in the past so will grow them again next year. Both now have major slowed down due to the heat but Dr. Wyche's is still growing and producing some tomatoes. For some reason the leaf footed bugs have been attacking my peppers instead of my tomatoes. They love my okra also. They are just now starting to drift over to the tomatoes. I am South of Atlanta in zone 8a.
Once those leaf-footed bugs get bad, that's when I usually start pulling stuff!
It’s not just a fish that will make a difference, it’s the type of fish. I have tried several different types of fish from catfish, panfish, trout and bait fish. And all on the same variety of plant (Amish paste)with the only difference being the variety of fish and what I found was that the plants with gizzard shad planted underneath there was a substantial difference in plant growth and vigor and had more larger tomatoes on the plants with the shad underneath. And my thought is it has something to do with the high oil content of these fish I know they break down incredibly fast as well if you leave them in a container outside on a wam day they will almost be all liquid in a couple of days.
I've grown Rose tomatoes for 3 years great tomato not my favorite but very good my favorite is Black Krim or Black Brandywine or Pink Brandywine or Paul Robeson or Cherokee purple have a hard time picking one growing 32 varieties this year several new varieties I haven't tried might be some new favorites next year
I surely do hope that that feller is able to get LOTS AND LOTS of turkey creek tomato seeds!
Here in south Carolina we had the no see ums for a few days and the gnats too but today July 19 the mosquitoes are vicious! You couldn't be outside unless you had four arms and hands to swat! Or spray down with off spray and greasy all over! Summer sure seems to go fast! I'm thinking about going with a good size dome greenhouse like 20'x 40-60'' . Not a replacement for outside spring to fall garden. Just something to try. I would like to try build a frame and put clear poly plastic over it. I am a welder but still thinking about it!
Only about one more month or so hopefully before the temperatures start to break at night a little.
I suggest the Cauralina from Johnny's. It's a hybrid indeterminate oxheart. Supposed to have decent disease resistance
Thanks for the suggestion!
I wish you could send that rain here
Travis, I see a bunch of green fried tomatoes. My dad loved them. I’m not crazy bum I like my tomatoes right though.
We have a large pond with a ton of fish in our front yard. I'll let neighbors come over to fish every spring, with the stipulation that once they've cleaned them, they bring me back the heads, guts, tail, etc. I will put the fish under several layers of soil in large pots, and I find they break down very quickly in the hot sun. I'll then use that "fish soil" to fertilize my plants. I have found that they tend to produce more, and the plants look very healthy. Maybe it's because I'm dealing with the parts, not the actual whole fish, but maybe that's something you could try? I'm still finding fins and scales that are 3-4 years old that haven't broken down completely, but I just leave everything in the soil then add various nutrients to it over time.
Man, I grew Dr Wyche's and they are my new favorite. I just got my first Paul Robeson. Fixing to try it tonight.
My Paul Robeson had the most flavorful tomatoes this year. I only had one plant 😔 but it bore wonderful fruit. Hope yours is also great!
@@noelleparris9451 it was wonderful. So flavorful. Thank you!
@@cherylwilson716 hooray! Glad your experience was a positive one, too 👍🏾😊
10 Months later, I have two Paul Robeson plants that are doing pretty well here on June 6, 2023. Maybe a few weeks until I can actually try one. Both have 10 or more green babies waiting to grow up.
@Scott I also have 2 Paul Robesons going. I got about 8 baby maters on each. So excited to grow them again.
Please send some of your water up to missouri!! We haven’t had any appreciable rain since June 1st. My absolutely beautiful corn crop got too heavy and fell over due to my watering to attempt fill out our kernels, it is very nearly a total loss. my pumpkins are dying, my tomatoes are curled, even with still watering every other day.. the only thing I’m still getting anything from is my purple hull peas, my zipper cream peas (a LITTLE), and my yellow wax beans. My bush green beans never produced any beans of a size to pick. And invasion of blister beetles severely damaged all of my tomatoes.. I sprayed and dusted, so I saved them, but with that and the drought, they have not really recovered. I’m picking my tomatoes either green, or at the first hint of lightening, because the birds are pecking them for a water source.. Hopefully, whenever this horrible weather pattern is past, what’s left of my garden will perk up and fruit a little more until it’s too cold..
“Holy Fried Green Tomatoes, Batman!”
I don’t like them myself, anyway.
Very enjoyable!
Hmmm, sitting here at work watching this on my lunch break and wouldn't you know it, I'm eating a Paul Robeson mater sammich! I'm with you on the fish deal. I'm sure it's great long term help, but I doubt it does much in the short term. You know you've gotta do an egg now for the egg folks! ;) Give that "Sudduth Strain Brandywine" a try next year. Nice acidic bite on a big wonky mater. Seed Savers Exchange has the seeds. Haven't found them anywhere else. Enjoyed that! Thanks for your good, analytical, record keeping!
Thanks for the variety suggestion!
So..if you get a 16 inch trout, sauteed with some white wine and shallots may be a better way to go.
Correct!
So I’m not pro or against the fish in the hole but my thoughts on it are as follows… I was very interested in what your results was going to be because I’ve always thought whatever benefits you might get from a fish in the hole wouldn’t be as much from the nutrients during breakdown of it but rather it feeding your soil and the beneficials within your soil. I don’t believe a fish feeds the plant the year it’s put in as much as it does the following years after starting it but I do believe it will help to get and keep those good bacteria and fungi around the roots in the rhizosphere. I also believe if used with azos and mycorrhiza you would see a significant difference in that plant, production isn’t always the full story of benefits of a product or in this case a fish. I think if my theory is correct the plant should be a little more resistant to disease and pest do to the good bacteria and fungi. It should also be a little more heat and drought tolerant. You mentioned doing it with just a fish compared to one just getting your fertilizer. I’d kind of like to see you grow two plants in 5 gal buckets side by side one with fish and the beneficials I mentioned(I can send you some if you need) and one plant that gets only your fertilizer. It’d be very interesting what you might find out in that more controlled experiment. Anyways that’s what I believe happens but I could be wrong 😂
The fish in the hole would only help if the soil was lacking a nutrient anyway. Fish breaks down pretty fast, some of the best commercial composts use fish, it's great for composting with hard wood chip.
Not beside the plant but in the bottom of the hole with ag lime on top to keep the critters away! Try it again Travis, you'll see, I swear.
I’ve been cutting suckers from my tomatoes and rooting them for the fall. Do you have any recommendations about how this will work for fall tomatoes? We live in southeast Texas, zone 8b. Thanks
I've never tried rooting suckers for fall. Not sure how or if that would work better than just starting more seeds.
Western PA grows great Kellogg's Breakfast.
I let it crawl, and had 30 1.5lb tomatoes a plant. It looked like a jungle, but produced more than I could use. My only complaint was the taste was a little bland.
My favorite determinant tomato is Galahad for the second year in a row. I also am liking Plum Regal for a sauce tomato. It is a little later than Grandero, but the tomatoes are a little better. What I won’t grow again is (inderminant) Kentucky Beefsteak and Giant Oxheart, they were too unpredictable in their fruit size, shape, catfacing, etc. I will also look for a better bigger red cherry tomato. Grew Sparky this year and wasn’t fond of it.
Thanks for sharing your results!
One year I planted several blue cat carcasses just to the side of my tomato row. That season, I never saw any difference, but I wasn't expecting anything immediate either. My understanding is it just takes the microbes time, a long time, to make the nutrients in fish available to the plant roots. It will happen, just not the same season. A better use of fish carcasses, IMO, is to make fish emulsion. Not that it makes it more available, but that it makes it easier to spread it around. But in true "do as I say not as I do" fashion, I haven't made any fish emulsion yet; so far I'm just adding the carcasses to a big compost tumbler (well away from the house and one which pests and critters can't get into, so far) along with some cow manure and other organic materials and letting it break down into compost.
When considering the time and resources it would take, I can't imagine that I could make fish emulsion cheaper than I could buy it.
@@LazyDogFarm My hubby fishes a lot, so I have the opportunity to get the carcasses and guts pretty often. Sometimes they just go to the coyotes, but I am trying harder to find ways to not waste them. :)
Tomorrow up to 107° in oklahoma possibly up to 117° in some areas. My Tomatoes died early on with this heat and no rain.
Ouch! We're unseasonably cool this week staying under 92 for the next 10 days or so.
Oh man, I was one plant off on my guess. I thought it was the one to the right
Travis, I filled my tomato holes with lime prior to planting and still got some blossom rot at the beginning of production......My daughter on the other hand bought an inexpensive brand of Tums and dropped 3-4 in each hole prior to her planting and she never had the first blossom rot..whatcha think??? Should I start buying up couple of bottles for next year?? Cheaper than bone meal and possibly fertilizer by next year..
Interesting for sure, although not necessarily conclusive unless it was done in the same soil on a more side-by-side comparison. Lime can alter your pH, so I'd be careful adding lime. Gypsum is cheap and has plenty of calcium.
@@LazyDogFarm The tomatoes were not planted side by side.2 different ground beds with a driveway between them.....thanks for the advice of gypsum. I'll have to try that...it's quite aggravating to go pick your tomatoes and have to throw away almost as many as you save because of blossom rot....
I heard too much unbroken down materials in the soil will rob nitrogen out of the soil. Worms in the soil is good though too. Good video
My concoction for my tomato plants as always been fish head two aspirins worm casting banana peel no other fertilizer all year plants get 8 9 ft tall produce well this year did not do that used aggro thrive fertilizer plants did not do well but I'm not blaming the fertilizer I pulled tomato plants to check for nematode had it bad so I blame it on that going to plan some mustard try again next year hopefully that helps no put my fish head at the bottom of the hole
That mustard should help tremendously with the nematodes. Knock on wood I haven't noticed any in my gardens since I started doing mustard cover crops.
Those plants still have a lot of tomatoes, and we'd be happy to just have have that amount on our plants. I have seedlings (Bella Rosa, Grand Marshall, Red Snapper, and Thunderbird) that I still have to transplant, but they're not looking too healthy. They've lost their dark green color, which could be insect damage or disease from the rain. I sprayed some neem oil and fed them some Miracle Grow and hopefully they'll perk up. I grew about 20 variety of determinate, indeterminate, and dwarf tomatoes, and none were that impressive. Hossinator produced only 2-3 low set fruit and most of the Roadster tomatoes got blossom end rot. I don't know if I'll grow either of those two again or any of the others again. I'm still searching for a variety that will do well out here, which may be a fool's errand out here in the AZ desert. I might just grow fewer tomato plants and concentrate on other vegetables that have a better chance of success out here. Thanks for posting the video with your results!
I struggle here too in the west texas desert. I can tell you the ones that have produced best for me. Black cherry is my heaviest producer. green grape, green striped zebra and golden jubilee. Jelly beans was a tiny one, but produced pretty good, but the taste was outstanding! Every year I try to add a few new ones to find all of my perfect ones. That's my winners list so far, hope it helps:)
I'm in Wyoming I have not received a tomato yet so I was having the same issue it sure did seem like there was a lot more tomatoes on there than what he thought that was I didn't even done the green ones
Look for heat tolerant tomatoes. They are out there.
@@iwanttobelieve5970 I have some some heat set Sakata varieties that I'm going to transplant soon, so hopefully one will do well. Thanks for the reply!
@@mommypov4958 I have have a couple of each black cherry, Sun Sugar, Prescott Cherry, Kiss the Sky, and Eagle Smiley cherry tomato plants, and Black Cherry and Prescott Cherry have done the best. However, I'm not a big fan of cherry tomatoes because of the acidity. I was hoping Sun Sugar would be sweet, but it's like a typical cherry tomato, and I should have gone with Sungold instead. I'd like to try that AAS Golden Jubilee next year. Thank you for sharing and best of luck with your garden!
Still a lot of green ones...fried tomatoes next week? :) The Indians( Native Americans) used a fish in their 3 sisters mounds, I don't reckon they had bagged fertilizer :) Here's a story...When I was a pre-teen/young teen I was an avid fisherman, almost daily in the summertime. We lived out in the sticks in rural Northern Illinois(our address was literally "RR1" ) on the banks of the Kishwaukee river... one of those wide old slow movers. I would catch mostly catfish and a fair share of carp. Some folks like carp but my family didn't. I would gut them and save any eggs(salted carp eggs are awesome) and bury the rest in the garden. I don't know if it was the fish, the climate, or the black as coal soil but, we had the best tomatoes I have ever tasted. The top soil in that country goes down literally several feet. It don't matter what you plant, if the weather is right it grow like a weed.
Definitely some good soil around those parts of the country!
I don’t know what fertilizer is made of today but the main ingredient used to be fish like menhaden…
What would be the best tasting determinate tomato variety you’ve ever tasted? Disregarding shape or size, but the best tasting one
Red Snapper is probably my favorite for size, vigor, and flavor.
Im just gonna buy plants. The record ice storm and. NOw drought and heat.. ....im pushing 80 and while my favorite part is seedlings..it just now depends if i feel up to getting outta bed.
Was wondering if you have had any cracking issues with the red snapper variety with all of that heavy rain in your garden
I didn't, but I also haven't really had any to harvest since the rain started heavily. They were near the end of their road.
Though you didn't address the topic in this video, flavor will be the prime factor that folks will consider when ranking tomato varieties. There appear to be three main types. The classic red tomato (Big Beef, etc.) will have a variable ratio of acidity to sweetness depending on cultivar. Then you have your yellow types (Kellogg's Breakfast for example) that express a less acidic flavor. Then there are the "black" varieties (Paul Robeson, Black Krim) which genetically have more lycopene and a smokey, complex flavor. They're my preference for fresh eating, followed by the reds. Don't much care for the yellows. I enjoy reading the tomato opinions from the Lazy Dog family. Hidden gems out there that are known to few.
I like ‘em all !!!
Can you still plant cucumbers in south Mississippi this time of year, if so what varieties
You can. But I'd definitely pick a hybrid, disease resistant variety. Supremo would be a good choice if you're looking for a pickling cucumber.
Did you check any of your tomato plants roots to see if you had any bad nematodes
I didn't, but they weren't really showing signs of nematode damage IMO.
I have tried trench amending with things like fish and not finished composed. To me it works.... but.... there is always a big but: I found that I need to amend this way at least a month before I plant on top. I know there are lots of gardeners that do the fish for tomatoes and pumpkin pits (in fact I tested it again last year with a pumpkin pit and found this same result). However, you have to remember that the initial break down takes in nitrogen. Therefore, at the start there is less. After break down really starts, it will give off the nitrogen it used to start plus more. One more thing is how deficient the soil is of micro nutrients . I find tomatos not only are nitrogen hogs, they are also micro nutrient hogs. So if you were just feeding them straight 10-10-10 vs a fish, well the fish has a lot more micro nutrients like calcium and magnesium, and the plant will do better. I got a small sample of that agrothrive this year just to test, and it really is great and seems to be full of micro nutrients (I have not taken it into the lab to get it tested). I did tested it against some 10-10-10, my compost tea, and miracle gro tomato on a couple tomato plants. I found that the argothrive and the compost tea / heavy compost added did the best. After and pretty close was the miracle grow tomato. Last place was standard 10-10-10 without any micro nutrients.
Agrothrive has a good bit of micros in it. I can't find the PDF currently, but the folks at Agrothrive sent me the micro analysis one time and it looked good.
Do you have any suggestions for bottoms rot. We are using drip tape this year. My hubby is adamant about adding a lot of lime to our tomato row. Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
Get your pH tested before you add a lot of lime. Lime will raise the pH. If you get the pH too high, it's hard to get it back down.
@@LazyDogFarm thank you so very much!
Lucky you getting rain…
I think your assessment is fair. Fish buried regularly using objective observation and in the absence of more bio-available fertilizers would show more notable results good or bad. I tend to think if ancient people practiced this it was minnows and fish waste not a dinner sized catch .
What size fittings did you use on your t posts for the conduit connections?
I don't remember exactly, but I want to say 1 1/2" or so.
I thought about it after that I probably have enough sizes to figure it out, but that sounds about right...thanks!
You were feeding the fish emulsion threw the drip system, right? So wouldn’t they all be getting the same nutrients that the plant with the fish was getting?
Travis it is so hard for me to pull plants that are still green
Not for me. I want diseased-looking plants out of the garden as soon as I can get them out.
Also is there a point during your mater production/harvest you back down on fertilization?
With tomatoes, I kind of play it by ear. If the plants look like they're struggling, I'll push them harder. But I don't necessarily stop until it gets around this time and I know the season is done.
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Travis, I am growing Tachi paste tomatoes. Can you recommend another good "big" paste variety to add?
I haven't grown many indeterminate paste types. Invincible is another good determinate paste, but it grows very similarly to Tachi.
Sue, I grew Tachi last year and was impressed more with the flavor than the yield. This year, it's their cousins in the Sakata paste lineup, Shelby and Supremo. Getting wonderful production from both, but we're not yet at the fully ripe taste test stage where "she who must be obeyed" gets the final thumbs up or down decision. I'm also impressed with the larger "Italian Heirloom" variety which is reputed to be delicious in sauce or fresh eating. Wispy growth habit but productive and disease resistant. Good luck.
@@markware4933 Thank you so much
@@LazyDogFarm Just determinates. Thank you for the variety!
You left us hanging with the results of the Big Zac / Kelloggs Breakfast competition you were having?
We're still receiving entries, so we'll keep it going for a while longer. I will do a recap and talk about the winners when do call and end it to though.
The native American Indians planted a 3 sisters garden using fish carcasses. Nothing went to waste. Fish emulsion is an excellent organic fertilizer. Organic gardening is all about feeding the soil which in turn feeds the plants. The microbes that fed on the fish, fed the roots of the plants. A fish in the hole is better than ending up in the dump, it's returned to nature. ✌️
Also try adding an aspirin to the root zone. It is the only plant that actually benefits from the hormonal properties. It's a myth that christmas trees or flower brought from the store benifit from it.
I'm Pro Fish because I had a BASS under them Big Zac and that Kellogg's Breakfast plants that grew them over 2lbs #bigmaters. LOL Maybe you need to try a Bass next time Travis.🤣🤣 Ha, that could be it, was that a saltwater fish you used?
It was a saltwater fish I used. I should have took lessons from the master and used a Bass.
Now that is Hilarious, you calling me master. LOL Love watching and learning from you, my friend.
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How much AZERA do you use for a gal of water..
2 ounces per gal
How much of a hand did you have in creating the hossinator ?
From what I understand, that's a Sakata variety (sakatavegetables.com/vegetable/tomato/tomato-salad-determinate/stm2255/) that they just renamed for retail purposes -- much like Park's Whopper is a Seminis variety that Park Seed renamed for marketing purposes. Companies have been doing this for years. But to answer your question, that was done after I left.
@@LazyDogFarm I grew the Hossinator 2255 and it was the first to produce but only two to three tomatoes out here in the desert heat. It's probably too hot out here, so will try something else next year.
The fish is mainly phosphorus, nitrogen and calcium. You may have had too much phosphorus which tied up zinc...
I am a no fish guy. I tried fish years ago and I'll go to my grave believing the fish burned my plants.
I agree red snapper is a keeper. I grew the last year for the first time, and they did great again this year, until the deer got them.
If you plant directly over the fish, it will likely kill the plant. I used to fish a lot and buried the filleted carcasses in trenches dug between rows. My biggest problem was animals digging them up. However, after a year in the ground, the improvement in soil fertility was obvious. Nowadays I just put the fish carcasses in the compost pile or feed them to the pigs.
@@dvrmte I didn't plant directly on top of the fish, but probably to close. The plants were beautiful, then dead. Just because something didn't work for me certainly doesn't mean it won't work for everyone. That's one of the great things about gardening. Everyone does it differently, but most of the time, it works out in the end.
@@jonlewis6630 In a previous post on the video where Travis had us guess which tomato plant had the fish beside it, I posted a history of the myth that Indians used fish as fertilizer. Actually there is solid evidence that Europeans used fish as fertilizer in Europe long before their voyages to America. Indians primarily used slash and burn agriculture without added fertilizer.
As for me, I'm the kind of farmer/gardener who wants to know why an idea works for someone else and not me.
You dumped more tomatoes then I even get a season
We had already harvested many 5 gallon buckets of tomatoes from that plot. From my standpoint, it's better to get those diseased plants away from the garden as quickly as possible.
Haha next year plant a piece of metal with the fish so you can use a metal detector to find out where it's supposed to be 😂
Good idea!
@@LazyDogFarm haha or I guess a stake would work too 😂😂