Hey everyone! A lot of people were wondering why I didn't include more stuff like Rusty/Walter/Ayre stories, and that's because this was supposed to be simple edit at first but then I got carried away after adding in the music lol so I had to make the clips fit the 2 songs and a bunch was left out. Feel free to comment about what you think of the endings/story, I love reading that stuff, Liberator ending definitely hit the hardest. In case you wonder the 2 songs I used used are: Steel Haze (Rusted Pride)/Cries of Coral :)
Fun fact. 13 is considered unlucky because Judas the 13th disciple betrayed Jesus. I don't know if that's intentional but apparently 621 is a hope related number so maybe.
first of all, great video. second, did you see the dialog for when G6 kills you? "sound off. sound off gun13! ... now you're a real redgun..." the shit we did to the balam boys hurts me man...
I think... fromsoft doesn't make happy stories. Despite that, it is a story of hope. It teaches us that to stagnate is to die but to welcome change is to live another day with new horizons. It's why the Overseer ending is seen as the bad ending, to redo the fires of Ibis is to stay the same forever... stagnation. Embracing coral for a chance at something new? Evolution.
Literally everyone is a dick to you until they realize you might be useful to them expect for my boy Rusty and homegirl Ayre. I feel no guilt betraying anyone expect those two.
It's not a lie. Your safety is in reference to allmind studying your AC and piloting skills. She was going to immortalize you and use your data for their own gain. 621 would technically still exist as an archive.
@@lasaha5856She has to turn on us. Ayre and 621 are the keys to Coral Release, and neither want a world where all Coral across the universe is controlled by Allmind.
I tried leaving that room after helping him, but the game stops you and forces you to kill him. It especially sucks that he attacks you because at that point, depending on your mission choices, you could actually have had very little to do with wiping out the Redguns. Hell, even Ayre sounds upset over having to kill him.
I really hope if they bring out DLCs they can get you abd ending woth Rusty or Redguns, Both of them are pretty based compared to every other corp in the game
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZYeah, I was mostly icing Arquebus execs in that play through. I think I basically just did the RLF request at the Gallia damn and that was it.
there are no solutions, only trade offs you cant just start a fire, you consume wood, tinder, time, and project a light profile and create a fire hazard.
I wish you had included Walter's dialogue during the Bring Down The Xylem mission. He was damn near begging us to leave and was struggling to talk through the brainwashing that Snail did to him. He tells us that we've earned every single credit for every mission that we've done and that we should use it to undo the augmentation surgery done to us and be normal again. He and Michigan were old war buddies and he wanted to leave us with the Redguns so we could have a family. To have a life. He knew Michigan would take care of us like he tried to set Iguazu and Volta straight. It's why he seemed so upset when we choose to do the mission where we kill Michigan and Balam's MT troops. Walter cared about us this whole time.
@@hopeandpiece I mean when you lost all of thoses you were a handler for, it kinda make sense to not try to not get attached. But well, apparently we grew on Walter just like he grew on me despite me thinking he wouldn't be a character I would care that much for. He ended up being my favorite.
Man its crazy how this game able to gave the players a great amount of depression without showing any faces of the characters, i still feel like shit betraying Carla and Walter after all they did and their trust to us and killing Michigan when he said all our achievements as the wallclimber and worm killer showing how much he respect us as a merc. Also, Shit man that damn moment when Walter said, "look at you 621, you finally found a friend" hits me hard, its as if Walter finally realize something, the only reason his faithful hound would betray him/do something unreal is when they finally found a friend and a purpose of what they fighting for, just like Walter himself whos fighting for his fallen friends and his legacy.
I felt even more miserable in the true ending after seeing their Acs in a sorry state, i would rather put them down instead. Especially when carla told walter that she wished that we were still with them.
Yeah man, Walter defends us multiple times and tells us to gain our freedom, Carla helps us escape, when we attack Michigan he's constantly praising our skills, hell even G4 Volta I always wondered what happened to him up until 2nd playthrough and I saw his wreck and got instantly sad we didn't see the character more
The worst thing for me was the fact that no one knew *why* Raven betrayed them. Carla and Stick thought it was because Arquebus paid us more, not because we wanted to give the Coral a chance, that we thought they deserved more than genocide. I just wish they knew about Ayre.
Considering how much they were focused on the mission, I doubt telling Walter or Carla about Ayre would make any difference. Hell, even Walter brushed off any possibility of coral beings by just saying that "621 is still hearing voices."
I don't know why but Iguazu's story really hit me in the feels. Him sacrificing everything, his friendships and allies with the Redguns, slowly loosing himself in hatred, overcoming Allmind's control to defeat you. Just to admit with his last breath that he envied you. Never would've thought a game with faceless Mechs could portray them in such human ways.
All the characters in their final fight reach for you, knowing that you were the Raven capable of change. Ayre in her last moments wants to walk with you, Walter lays down his weapons, and Iguazu still tries to take a swipe at you before his arm explodes and he admits defeat. ALLMIND even quietly shuts down when you state your intentions to achieve Coral release
Iguazu was down in a spiral of ENVY. A very bad, sad and... powerful emotion. He had an inferiority complex. Always wanting to remark that he was on top. Only blind and not overcoming his own weaknesses. 621 is barely alive, started from 0 in Rubicon, but to him, 621 had it all. Talent, friends, people who respected them and cared for them (and a Rubiconian waifu) while all he could hear was laughs... "I KNOW YOU ARE LAUGHING AT ME!" Truly a tragic character.
@@kirbyis4ever i wanna say, i think the best ending is the one with you facing walter, think about it, in the Ayre one when she is about to die she tries to reach you with her hand, you stomped an innocent soul, in the allmind ending, iguazu tries to hit you, an act of hate, this prob means that you went too far on the opposite direction, if in the first you wiped out an entire race, on the other you changed forever yours. In the walter one tho he lowers is weapon down, he still dies but with not regret or sorrow like Ayre and no hate and violence like Iguazu, this for me it's the answer that try to find a balance and bring respect to both sides, the coral, the planet, everyone (even if there are risks) it will always be the better option.
He admits he envied you and with his very last bit of strength still tries to kill you. His jealousy and hatred was so powerful at that point that he almost overcame death a second time and managed to somehow activate the sword one last time just to kill you.
Ya should’ve added Balam’s reaction to Michigan’s death. When they were distraught over their leader’s death and decide to continue pushing onward knowing they were probably gonna die… THAT was heart wrenching.
@@FearTheCaboose1337Genuine respect for Balam's MT force, they willingly followed Michigan to almost certain death and wanted to carry out his final mission after death out of genuine admiration for him.
@@FearTheCaboose1337 In my case they were right, I had a little over 1k health, low ammo, and when they said "We've got a chance!" I was like "Fuck you might actually, yeah"
@@RandomBeefTaste Yeah I finished that mission with like 500 AP, no repair kits left, and had to punch Michigan to death because I ran out of ammo. Then I heard those lines and realized I accidentally missed 3 basic helicopter enemies. The most tense generic weaponry kills I ever did lol
@@RandomBeefTasteha same here! I was running double SMG and the bullet drone. Ran out of ammo right as I killed Michigan and all I had left was my melee weapon and my fists. Those MTs really had a good chance, had to play like a coward cause I didn’t want to die there
Probably the saddest interaction is when you kill Chatty first in the RaD boss fight. He chuckles before he dies, and Carla sounds genuinely suprised. Based off his death line after killing Carla first this is the only time he's ever laughed.
Addendum ten months post: all you need to do is get Chatty to his last repair kit, then he says the line- i think- whatever happens he says it before dying, so you can indeed save him for last. I had to do it since Carla keeps putting on heavy pressure while I chased Chatty around.
@@todd3143 Think you're confused, the Redguns are a Balam in house AC squad, They were formed by Balam, not a separate entity, it is up to Balam themselves to do as they please with the ranking system for the Redguns.
Well it’s more that anyone who had the number was unlucky than the number itself was, in that they didn’t think it was at first but after all the bad stuff they believed were
@@ItchiestBum i was imagining that if a company creates a security detail, it’s up to the head security who they hire, and how they structure their team, because after all, that’s their specialty, no? balam is just a weapons manufacturer/corporation
The worse for me is Red. He was always so enthusiastic, he wanted us to join the redguns fully and when we finally find him he is a nearly broken man, alone, expecting to die fighting arquebus MTs (he isnt a incredibly good AC pilot, as shown by his arena rank) only to see the one ally he may have left and that seems to break him completely. I wonder if he realized that 621 was partially responsible for everything going wrong, even if you dont take the Michigan mission you still help arquebus secure the tunnels.
He knew something was suspicious because Allmind marked your status as Killed In Action after you intercepted Snail and Iguazu in the alternate Reach the Coral Convergence mission on ng++. To everyone on Rubicon (except Walter, because he knows you wouldn’t just die like that), you were effectively dead. And then you just happen to pop up and save him like nothing weird is happening.
As someone who went through Four and For Answer... And read what happened in Verdict Day. (Due to unavailability.) God. It never gets easier when you have to do any of this. We're sorry Joshua... I wish we could have been heroes together... Damn the League. Damn Omer Sciences.
I felt terrible after killing G6. I though I had a chance to make sure at least one member survived but then the game reminded me what route I was on, and that was that. Didn’t hit as hard taking out the vespers, with the except of rusty, the vespers are a slimy backstabbing bunch
It’s just Snail that’s a piece of shit -Frued is only in it for the thrill -O’Keefe tries to warn you that changing society isn’t as hopeful as it seems -Hawkins was nice to Pater, even saying he wishes it was himself who fell instead if we kill Pater but die to him -We don’t see much of Materlink’s personality but she doesn’t shit talk us when we fight her -Swinburne compliments us if we spare him and actually goes through with getting us a reward in exchange (though sadly this gets him punished) -Even Pater who seems power hungry at first glance still weeps over O’Keefe and Hawkins, leaning into his AC’s name “Dual Nature” I fully believe no person in the story is truly evil or truly good
yeah the Red Guns for me were the best, i loved Michigan and his shit talk and G6 and his over enthusiasm, I don't even think you're supposed to encounter him at the end so it wasn't a pleasant surprise...
"It's lonely at the top" "You can't please everyone" "Stay sitting on the fence and you make no enemies, but no friends either" ....You're gonna carry that weight.
i think the worst was betraying ayre and how she stays connected to you throughout your fight with her "You and I...could have walked together." reaally hits home
I'm ngl I like Ayre but I just don't feel the same connection I do with the others. She's kinda... bland. She has a few funny moments though, and she's a great fight.
@@damnman5113”than some literal C wave mutation who can talk” And Michigan is some old dude's voice over a radio. You simplifying it says nothing about their character.
@@damnman5113 She's not even human, but the only innocent one. The others are killers and mercs. Especially Walter, who wanted to make up for those past mistakes.
@@leadfaun in lore Ayre is nothing but a particle with anime voice and Walter, Michigan, Rusty all were real... I could not bring myself to kill basically my friends for my schizophrenia waifu.
@@lasaha5856 then immediately dies cause his ac's not rated for RLF artillery positions focusing him on the dam mission or the bazooka wielding ac at the end.
@@cr90captain89if he gets lucky, then he's screwed on the ice worm, either forgetting to slap on the Arquebus Stun Needle Launcher or just by "doing his best" or basically getting clapped by the worm itself
@@flapflapflapflapi assume that if Raven wasn't there, Snail woukd havd just sent Freud for the Ice Worm. He went in that mission himself, he won't take any chance with a newbie on needle duty.
Meanwhile Snail: "Keep your dog/mutt on a leash!" "Huh. I guess you're not the mutt I thought you were after all... You're below that! You're vermin!" Truly words to live by. 😢
Ayre's "Raven, you were the only one" when she manages to win against you in her bossfight has such a good delivery for such a short line. You can hear the devastation and regret over what could have been. Great VA performance
The fact Carla tells you basically she understands you’ve made a decision even after you betray her. Although it’s not the one that was in line her with her plans, she respects your decision to fight her just as hard as she fights back. The carla and chatty fight wasn’t a cake walk the first time I went through it either, almost making each attempt harder and harder if you put your emotions into it
@@are3287she spends a good chunk of the fight trying to get you and Walter to stop fighting until realizing Walter can't stop and tells you you have to defend yourself.
given that the boy mentioned in professor nagai's reports who he eventually sent to the jupiter colony is likely walter, and g1 michigan is the hero of jupiter, they likely have military experience together, or at very least walter knows him from that war.
@@dumbsterdives wait what? I need to check the logs Michigan also worked for Furlong Dynamics before they were defeated by Balam, is that the reason why Furlong Dynamics also made the Alba for Rusty? but why? also there's no hints that Walter was sent to Jupiter all what Nagai states that Assistant 1's son should be in the lab for now
@@lesslighter Video Record: The Fires of Ibis: "Whatever future awaits the boy, I hope he grows into a man strong enough to seize it. I have friends in the Jupiter colonies... Surely they will look after him." It's actually entirely possible that Michigan raised Walter, given Carla has barely aged if at all since she was Assistant #2.
@@DuxSupremusStill dont get how Carla is told that she looks young. Even if they both went to Jupiter and had a slower yearly passage, why does Walter already walk with a stick as if he is elderly? Or maybe he actually has an injury due to participating in the Jupiter conflict? Man Fromsoft just wont tell us
We need a Redgun ending imo. I don't think it would be "ideal" lorewise joining a company and remaining just another AC, but none of the endings seem totally good for 621. You're either reviled, you lose all your friends but Ayre, or you're used, betrayed, & fulfil a plan anyways. 621 would have a family with the Redguns.
Discarting the obviously BAD ending (Fires of Raven): *Liberator of Rubicon:* You get to live. Ayre is still with you, but you had to kill Carla, Chatty and... Walter. Those sins will weight on your soul. With the money earned 621 could undo the augmentation and be normal again (I guess Walter's initial lie about earning their life back wasn't a lie after all). No certainty on what this could mean to their Contact with Ayre. Rusty is MIA, probably dead. It is not clarified but... he most likely died on Walter's surprise attack. 621 may have or may not have killed Michigan, but in any scenario, his death is guaranteed. Balam is decimated and so is Arquebus. Some might have survived tho, like Red or O'Keefe. *Alea iacta est:* You get to live and walk along Ayre, as you are united with her and many others, as the symbiosis between humanity and coral is reality. We don't know yet what this really means, but it is said to be evolution (I hope VaatiVidya can help us understand this ending better). The liberation front is most likely alive, so is Rusty as he didn't get back to fighting after losing to you at the entrance of Institute City. Sadly, 621 killed most if not all Redguns and Vespers. Carla died. Walter died believing you betrayed him. 621 kills Chatty. At least you saved millions of lives in Rubicon and kept the solar system uncontaminated. 621 didn't burn it all away. Both endings gave good parts and bad parts. Fires of Raven is just bad (not in writing but in moral outcome) as 621 just kills EVERYONE on the planet and leaves it empty, dry, lifeless. Betrayed everyone, even Ayre, just to fulfill a legacy based on FEAR. 621 might have survived, or perished on the very flames they started. Sorry for the long reply. I.... I wasn't planning on this being this long! hahaha.
@@HumbertoHernandez Imo Alea Est is the worst ending possible. The symbiosis/evolution is supposed to be as agonizing & deadly as Gen4 augumentation thus Coral Release kills A LOT of people in the galaxy, men, women & definitely children. For those who survived, they have to deal with an evolution forced upon them that they didn't ask for- life as an AC with an autonomous subconscious like Ayre. Based on the last words of Alea Est, "Activating Combat Mode" with no one around but other AC's you can safely guess that they're now fighting and killing each other. Seeing as the main goal of Coral Releases evolution is to make humanity stronger, this likely means the prime directive is survival of the fittest. There is no humanity, no point to living besides continuing to fight each other. At least as fragile squishy humans we could find other things to live for. This future is what Walter was trying to avoid, while the Liberator Ending still makes this an eventuality because the Coral is still around & so is allmind who will still be trying to do Coral Release, the Fires of Raven destroys it so this can never come to pass. It's definitely a destructive ending- but by comparison to total human extinction to make way for this new species focused on nothing but combat... it's worth it.
@@HumbertoHernandez o also, if you don't choose the mission to kill Michigan, after the one you chose Walter informs you Rusty did instead. I'm p sure Michigan dies no matter what.
As someone who has completed all achievements and suffered through the emotional downfall after the first playthrough(i did Fires of Raven then Liberator) this struck a nerve real bad... thank you for this magnificent wurk
@@lasaha5856 Only gripe I have with Liberator is that Walter's boss fight felt a bit underwhelming (mechanically, not emotionally mind you) compared to Ayre and preceeding Balteus/Snail fight
@@Rigel_6 Honestly, I agree and yet...I like it. It feels in keeping with what that fight is. One more duel, not terribly different from all the others, but this time it's only exceptional because of who your opponent is.
@@Rigel_6I've only finished the liberator of rubicon ending, and walter was almost hard. I feel like part of the point of it is showing that you surpassed your augmentations, considering he had the same stuff as you
Walter's fight hit me the hardest, but its kind of bittersweet. He'd never admit it, but Walter had always hoped that we would eventually outgrow the need for a Handler. (Ex. His last "job" for us was to 'Find our freedom'). It is quite sad that Walter dies knowing his friend's last wishes will never be granted, but on the inside he's secretly proud of us in that we made our own choices whether or not the Coral burns. Seeing as how Walter was finally able to see Ayre next to us, it reassures him that whatever path we take, we won't be alone.
I was sad when fighting him, not only for what Arquebus did to him in the re-education camp, but having to face him...knowing that I didn't fulfill his wishes of burning the Coral. But yeah, he was ok with it as he also wanted 621 to find their own freedom, path, desires... and when he said "Look at you 621... you found a friend..." it was perfect. Like, "It's ok for me to go now." He kinda is a father figure here. It's a bittersweet ending.
I just realized something that makes the escaping Watchpoint Alpha mission in NG++ hit so much harder on the feels. You kill both Pater and Red in it, who were the two guys who've been giving you most of the jobs from the corporations, and you find both of them broken men when they meet you. You killed all of their friends, including the ones they were closest to; Michigan for Red and O'Keefe for Pater. Those two were the only reason you got to where you are now, as the jobs and missions they gave you are what brought you here. And here you kill them both as they weep and rage against the mute monster who killed nearly all of their comrades.
Also interesting to note is that they’re both the “lowest” ranking members of their respective AC squads (barring G7 Hakra since they’re dead by the time we arrive on Rubicon 3).
The amount of knife twisting i felt doing certain things to characters I really liked. Gameplay, VAs, sfx, OSTs, really made it an unforgettable experience.
The sound design is amazing. Possibly the best voice acting across entire cast of any game I have played with over 80k hours. So much is not even used in this video
They can’t afford to have bad VAs here because the characters’ personalities are expressed exclusively from their voices. No fancy facial animations, no cutscenes, and yet the cast is so memorable
@@joevaghn457 the only one I don't like much is the RLF MT female voice. She sounds like a baby girl, and her performance is too... I don't know but it sounds off
Honestly you missed the most depressing one, Going from war buddies with Rusty to destroying him in the end. Handler walters last words after you defeat him in battle. And same for Ayre after you choose the path to burn the coral.
It get's worse. Rusty learned that from the 'Uncle' of the RLF, who absolutely must be the source for that saying, because he uses it the one mission you do with him. So Rusty was passing it on.
Well, in Liberator or Rubicon he dies, same on Fires of Rubicon (albeit on harsher and sadder circumstances) but in Alea iacta est he lives. 621 defeats him but he doesn't come back with another AC to die. Some say he dies off-screen as Allmind kills all the vespers but there's no confirmation of this really happening. Well, it's what I do believe, that he's with the RLF somewhere in Rubicon (and then the whole Coral Release thing happens)
For anyone that got emotional Don't !. this is the way. Gen 3 world is literrally like john wick assasins world. You wanna live by the AC you must be ready to die by the AC. This is the ravens way. As Nocturne Said: "Were Both Ravens... Just do what comes naturally" You want to become a mercenary then killing is impartially is the job. Respect their death. Don't be sad they died, be glad that they fought their fight. As without it the story lack weight.
Armored Core Nexus was the only other AC game I've played, I skipped Gen 4 and 5 because I didn't have a playstation but also they felt very different. I'm glad to have come back to AC with gen 6, it feels like gen 3 but better in all aspects.
I haven't been this sad since that mission to take out Jack-O in Last Raven. He knew he was dead meat, all he asked from us was to send him out with a bang. He even gets mad at you for holding back (your AP dropping to 50%). Then he thanks you when his AP drops to zero.
As a veteran AC player, the moment I start the game I mentally prepared and emotionally distance myself from any character. Some way or the other, you're gonna kill em.
Top 5 Saddest Boss Fights in Armored Core VI 5. TESTER AC / Dafeng Student Pilot 4. STEEL HAZE ORTUS / Rusty 3. FULL COURSE / "Cinder" Carla + CIRCUS / "Chatty" Stick 2. IB-C03: HAL 826 / Handler Walter 1. IB-07: SOL 644 / Ayre
Only time i felt bad taking down any of the pilots and grunts was taking down Balam. Except for that one traitor who joined the Vespers. Gun 13 sounding off, and sending off the Redguns, OOHRAH
G1 Michigan was the best of the Redguns. Maybe not our *most* favorite, but still one of the best. Carla made us smile and laugh, she counted on us like she was our only true friend. V.VIII/V.III Pater was the kind and respectable one, and that made us all respect him. Walter maybe was just a handler, but he was *OUR* handler. He made sure everyone respected us. Rusty always had our back when nobody else did, even if it put him in danger. And after the story ends, there is only one question left to be answered... *"FROMSOFTWARE WHY"*
We can somewhat expect we're gonna get that choice whenver expansions for AC6 come out. The game has been developed with a fraction of a budget of Elden Ring and has had very good revenue...
@@ARCAGNELL0the AC series has never had you become part of a corporation, only ever take jobs from them. It would defeat the whole point of the independent merc barrative. I would not expect it.
@@ARCAGNELL0 I doubt that they're going to give us DLC if you want any extra content we better make it ourselves at least there's an armored core on steam finally.....
@@ethanspaziani1070Armored Core has never made them that much money, yet not a single generation of games got away without at least one expansion, even the 5th gen which did really bad. Fromsoft truly loves this franchise, and if it wasn't because ER's dlc has been on development since a while ago, I would expect one for AC6 coming out first.
I just realized, when Michigan says G13 "Just became available" I think it became available because the student pilot you killed in the previous mission was G13 (or atleast going to be G13)
I felt awful killing Michigan, Rusty, Red, Ayre, Carla and Chatty across all of my playthroughs. Still felt awful killing Walter but at that point it was a mercy. Fantastic video.
If you take out Chatty before Carla, she goings into a crying, depressive rage and intensifies her attacks against you. When you take her out then, she admits defeat and just... Damn. It hits harder.
On my first playthrough I did the Fires of Raven ending. Burning down the Rubicon is an awful thing, but at least, saving the humanity in outer systems for good kinda worth it. But Liberator and Allmind... In any way, we've killed *a sh*t ton of people on Rubicon.* Especially in Allmind playthrough, as it kills everyone just as in Fires of Raven. And for what? For a speck of hope that everything will be fine? We have *no guarantees* that all of this has done something good. Maybe it even made the situation worse. So yeah, depression must be the main idea of AC6.
I also did the Fires of Raven first, good thing I did so that I can get the other endings to feel better. The Fear of catastrophic-failure/calamity of Coral taking over everything to the point for us to commit terracide and destroy coral would be in vain. The corps may look for something else and start the cycle over.
"let's show them there's a future for Rubicon, beyond these scorched skies..." Straight sobbing. G6 Red, O'keefe, Carla, Chatty, Michigan, Pater... one sucker punch after another. Not a single face seen throughtout the entire game yet it feels like a knife being twisted in your stomach with wll their deaths. Edit : I've already commented on this vid before but I keep finding myself here😭
I always hoped the "Alea Lacta Est" ending would be the best ending since maybe more people survived Maybe all the people who died would live on in the coral
That's what I thought the combat logs were for, to add them to the simulations in the arena and the downloads for allmond to save the dead for coral release while taking them from the board
Chatty stick was my favorite. Just throwing away all of your humanity while running the allmind route. Just betrayal after betrayal. It's awful. "Never learned to laugh" - Chatty Stick
I wish there were two more endings to Rubicon: One where you more or less joined Balam as their new Gun 13, and one where you joined the Vespers in Arquebus. That would've been so toasty.
Walter when you fight him "All credit to you, undo the sugery, back to normal" "Look at you 621, you found a Friend" And i really like the ost of this fight "the man who past the touch" Rusty when you fight him "I will chase the clouds beyond the scorched sky of rubicon, only i can fly high enough" "You fly out of reach"
@@lasaha5856 It's Snail's last middle finger, and rarely have I hated a character so much in fiction. I admit, it's good writing, because ho ho man, I loathe that man for it.
Pater's arena profile says he lacks empathy, and during his fights he swings between mourning his comrades an being arrogant and dismissive of them. Something ain't right with that guy.
I really appreciate vids like this - I tend to miss most of the chatter that happens during battles due to a combination of being too focused on the fight to pay attention, and killing targets too quickly for them to finish talking. Means I miss out on a lot of fine nuances, unfortunately...
it happens, and yes there is a TON more that happens that i noticed and wasn't included here, (it would have been too long) secret encounters, cutscene dialogues, logs, intermission dialogues, etc, lets just wait for the dark souls lore guy (VaatiVidya) to make a video on it
@@lasaha5856 Eh, i 100%'ed the game, so I HAVE read all the logs, seen all the cutscenes, found all the secret encounters (since they always have Combat Logs attached), and of course, sat through most of the intermission-dialogues three times. It was just... keeping track of what people were saying WHILE simultaneously dodging a barrage of missiles and looking for a place to stick my Laser-Lance that I couldn't manage. :P
I was way too pre-occupied trying to survive the first time I fought to remember the dialogue, and the next time I did that mission, I fire 1 Earshot and kill V.V, the other cannon kills V.VIII right after so the only thing he says is, "No! I just made V.V!" The dude was celebrating his damn promotion for all of 2 seconds before he died XD
My first playthrough was the Fires of Raven ending and I embodied this. My final decision was because I wanted the cash so I could kill more efficiently on my next playthrough.
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Hey everyone! A lot of people were wondering why I didn't include more stuff like Rusty/Walter/Ayre stories, and that's because this was supposed to be simple edit at first but then I got carried away after adding in the music lol so I had to make the clips fit the 2 songs and a bunch was left out. Feel free to comment about what you think of the endings/story, I love reading that stuff, Liberator ending definitely hit the hardest.
In case you wonder the 2 songs I used used are: Steel Haze (Rusted Pride)/Cries of Coral :)
Fun fact. 13 is considered unlucky because Judas the 13th disciple betrayed Jesus.
I don't know if that's intentional but apparently 621 is a hope related number so maybe.
first of all, great video.
second, did you see the dialog for when G6 kills you? "sound off. sound off gun13! ... now you're a real redgun..."
the shit we did to the balam boys hurts me man...
I think... fromsoft doesn't make happy stories.
Despite that, it is a story of hope. It teaches us that to stagnate is to die but to welcome change is to live another day with new horizons. It's why the Overseer ending is seen as the bad ending, to redo the fires of Ibis is to stay the same forever... stagnation. Embracing coral for a chance at something new? Evolution.
What where the songs used?
def make another and throw in the left overs lol
Remember, even while you were trying to kill G1 Michigan he still was putting you on a pedestal and giving you high respect
even says that his mt subordinant kennebec is the only clown there after he calls you a clown, like hot damn.
Michigan is such a dad, even his death quote is a sh*tty dad joke 😜
''the worm killer! the wall climber!''
Michigan knew the score...
It hurts even more reading his arena entry
If he kills you in that mission, he doesn't gloat, he immediatly orders a squad to relieve the survivors and a medical unit to attend the wounded
_Emotional stability at 30%. Attitude control system overloaded._
No repair tissue boxes left
Always wondered why it was called attitude control
most underrated comment on TH-cam
I got my salt armor primed for V.II
@@johntorreto4485attitude is the pitch of an aircraft’s nose relative to the horizon im pretty sure
should've included that scene where carla come to our rescue at the start of chapter 5
i really felt like shit betraying her right after that
Ah true that's a good one, there were some other clips I wanted to include but then I wouldn't have been able to make them fit in the 2 songs lol
Also should have had the fight against Ayre in it and while we are talking about depression core 6 the fight against Walter...
@@lasaha5856 Defeating Chatty first and hearing his lines gave me more depression for the Cinder Carla fight man. Not even beginning to mention NG++
Literally everyone is a dick to you until they realize you might be useful to them expect for my boy Rusty and homegirl Ayre. I feel no guilt betraying anyone expect those two.
imagine betraying carla first
"Augmented Human 621 - your safety is now guaranteed" Yea, I knew that was a fucking lie
and I think they would have been chill if they didn't decide to turn on us right at the end lol
ALLMIND : "Augmented Human C4-621 Raven, your safety is now guaranteed."
*Get slapped to the side*
Iguazu : "Not if I have anything to say about it!"
Not from Allmind's insane perspective. It is just that to Allmind, the only safety is as part of IT.
It's not a lie.
Your safety is in reference to allmind studying your AC and piloting skills. She was going to immortalize you and use your data for their own gain. 621 would technically still exist as an archive.
@@lasaha5856She has to turn on us. Ayre and 621 are the keys to Coral Release, and neither want a world where all Coral across the universe is controlled by Allmind.
I was extra sad when I found G6 Red in that mission. Poor dude had such enthusiasm earlier in the game and then we find him a broken man.
yeah i did not like doing that at all, right up there with Walter for me
I tried leaving that room after helping him, but the game stops you and forces you to kill him. It especially sucks that he attacks you because at that point, depending on your mission choices, you could actually have had very little to do with wiping out the Redguns.
Hell, even Ayre sounds upset over having to kill him.
I really hope if they bring out DLCs they can get you abd ending woth Rusty or Redguns, Both of them are pretty based compared to every other corp in the game
I really wish I wasn’t forced to kill Balam since I find most of Arquebus cringe
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZYeah, I was mostly icing Arquebus execs in that play through. I think I basically just did the RLF request at the Gallia damn and that was it.
When Chatty tells Carla he never learned how to laugh, it GUTS me everytime
man... and when Chatty actually starts laughing....
Man... Fromsoft knows how to make us feel.
"You can always make a choice but never the ones that make everyone happy, thats just how it is"
MAIN SYSTEMS : ENGAGING COMBAT MODE
there are no solutions, only trade offs
you cant just start a fire, you consume wood, tinder, time, and project a light profile and create a fire hazard.
Shadow Fight 2 pfp?
I wish you had included Walter's dialogue during the Bring Down The Xylem mission.
He was damn near begging us to leave and was struggling to talk through the brainwashing that Snail did to him. He tells us that we've earned every single credit for every mission that we've done and that we should use it to undo the augmentation surgery done to us and be normal again.
He and Michigan were old war buddies and he wanted to leave us with the Redguns so we could have a family. To have a life. He knew Michigan would take care of us like he tried to set Iguazu and Volta straight. It's why he seemed so upset when we choose to do the mission where we kill Michigan and Balam's MT troops. Walter cared about us this whole time.
Not QUITE the whole time, but after we start surviving the odds around the end of act 1 he starts caring about us
@@hopeandpiece I mean when you lost all of thoses you were a handler for, it kinda make sense to not try to not get attached. But well, apparently we grew on Walter just like he grew on me despite me thinking he wouldn't be a character I would care that much for. He ended up being my favorite.
He gets augmented at the end...
621 has been augmented before the start of the game
@@Fairwhite195They didn't mean 621...
Man its crazy how this game able to gave the players a great amount of depression without showing any faces of the characters, i still feel like shit betraying Carla and Walter after all they did and their trust to us and killing Michigan when he said all our achievements as the wallclimber and worm killer showing how much he respect us as a merc.
Also, Shit man that damn moment when Walter said, "look at you 621, you finally found a friend" hits me hard, its as if Walter finally realize something, the only reason his faithful hound would betray him/do something unreal is when they finally found a friend and a purpose of what they fighting for, just like Walter himself whos fighting for his fallen friends and his legacy.
I felt even more miserable in the true ending after seeing their Acs in a sorry state, i would rather put them down instead. Especially when carla told walter that she wished that we were still with them.
Yeah man, Walter defends us multiple times and tells us to gain our freedom, Carla helps us escape, when we attack Michigan he's constantly praising our skills, hell even G4 Volta I always wondered what happened to him up until 2nd playthrough and I saw his wreck and got instantly sad we didn't see the character more
@@krouronii8867 but sadly their cores were left intact - that means they got assimilated into Allmind
The worst thing for me was the fact that no one knew *why* Raven betrayed them. Carla and Stick thought it was because Arquebus paid us more, not because we wanted to give the Coral a chance, that we thought they deserved more than genocide. I just wish they knew about Ayre.
Considering how much they were focused on the mission, I doubt telling Walter or Carla about Ayre would make any difference. Hell, even Walter brushed off any possibility of coral beings by just saying that "621 is still hearing voices."
I don't know why but Iguazu's story really hit me in the feels.
Him sacrificing everything, his friendships and allies with the Redguns, slowly loosing himself in hatred, overcoming Allmind's control to defeat you. Just to admit with his last breath that he envied you.
Never would've thought a game with faceless Mechs could portray them in such human ways.
All the characters in their final fight reach for you, knowing that you were the Raven capable of change. Ayre in her last moments wants to walk with you, Walter lays down his weapons, and Iguazu still tries to take a swipe at you before his arm explodes and he admits defeat. ALLMIND even quietly shuts down when you state your intentions to achieve Coral release
Iguazu was down in a spiral of ENVY. A very bad, sad and... powerful emotion. He had an inferiority complex. Always wanting to remark that he was on top. Only blind and not overcoming his own weaknesses. 621 is barely alive, started from 0 in Rubicon, but to him, 621 had it all. Talent, friends, people who respected them and cared for them (and a Rubiconian waifu) while all he could hear was laughs... "I KNOW YOU ARE LAUGHING AT ME!"
Truly a tragic character.
All mind was trying ot become Hustler One but Iguazu hijacked herp lan an himself became Stinger.
@@kirbyis4ever i wanna say, i think the best ending is the one with you facing walter, think about it, in the Ayre one when she is about to die she tries to reach you with her hand, you stomped an innocent soul, in the allmind ending, iguazu tries to hit you, an act of hate, this prob means that you went too far on the opposite direction, if in the first you wiped out an entire race, on the other you changed forever yours. In the walter one tho he lowers is weapon down, he still dies but with not regret or sorrow like Ayre and no hate and violence like Iguazu, this for me it's the answer that try to find a balance and bring respect to both sides, the coral, the planet, everyone (even if there are risks) it will always be the better option.
He admits he envied you and with his very last bit of strength still tries to kill you. His jealousy and hatred was so powerful at that point that he almost overcame death a second time and managed to somehow activate the sword one last time just to kill you.
Ya should’ve added Balam’s reaction to Michigan’s death. When they were distraught over their leader’s death and decide to continue pushing onward knowing they were probably gonna die… THAT was heart wrenching.
Then they say, "He must have given as good as he got, we've got a chance!"
They truly did believe in him, and I felt bad for breaking that hope
@@FearTheCaboose1337Genuine respect for Balam's MT force, they willingly followed Michigan to almost certain death and wanted to carry out his final mission after death out of genuine admiration for him.
@@FearTheCaboose1337 In my case they were right, I had a little over 1k health, low ammo, and when they said "We've got a chance!" I was like "Fuck you might actually, yeah"
@@RandomBeefTaste Yeah I finished that mission with like 500 AP, no repair kits left, and had to punch Michigan to death because I ran out of ammo. Then I heard those lines and realized I accidentally missed 3 basic helicopter enemies. The most tense generic weaponry kills I ever did lol
@@RandomBeefTasteha same here! I was running double SMG and the bullet drone. Ran out of ammo right as I killed Michigan and all I had left was my melee weapon and my fists. Those MTs really had a good chance, had to play like a coward cause I didn’t want to die there
Probably the saddest interaction is when you kill Chatty first in the RaD boss fight. He chuckles before he dies, and Carla sounds genuinely suprised. Based off his death line after killing Carla first this is the only time he's ever laughed.
Yeah killing chatty first REALLY pisses her off but because we are the main character it isnt enough
Addendum ten months post: all you need to do is get Chatty to his last repair kit, then he says the line- i think- whatever happens he says it before dying, so you can indeed save him for last. I had to do it since Carla keeps putting on heavy pressure while I chased Chatty around.
redguns: *makes an organization with 13 members instead of 12*
also redguns: “13 is a cursed number!”
Redguns didn’t make it, it was the balam higher ups 🤓
@ItchiestBum ok sir but the redguns are the merc squad balam employs, i.e. their own org, and commander michigan can restructure as he pleases
@@todd3143 Think you're confused, the Redguns are a Balam in house AC squad, They were formed by Balam, not a separate entity, it is up to Balam themselves to do as they please with the ranking system for the Redguns.
Well it’s more that anyone who had the number was unlucky than the number itself was, in that they didn’t think it was at first but after all the bad stuff they believed were
@@ItchiestBum i was imagining that if a company creates a security detail, it’s up to the head security who they hire, and how they structure their team, because after all, that’s their specialty, no? balam is just a weapons manufacturer/corporation
The worse for me is Red. He was always so enthusiastic, he wanted us to join the redguns fully and when we finally find him he is a nearly broken man, alone, expecting to die fighting arquebus MTs (he isnt a incredibly good AC pilot, as shown by his arena rank) only to see the one ally he may have left and that seems to break him completely. I wonder if he realized that 621 was partially responsible for everything going wrong, even if you dont take the Michigan mission you still help arquebus secure the tunnels.
yeah he was only rank 27/F , him and Michigan were the only lighthearted characters to contrast the more serious world, big RIP G6
He knew something was suspicious because Allmind marked your status as Killed In Action after you intercepted Snail and Iguazu in the alternate Reach the Coral Convergence mission on ng++. To everyone on Rubicon (except Walter, because he knows you wouldn’t just die like that), you were effectively dead. And then you just happen to pop up and save him like nothing weird is happening.
Welcome to the Armored Core experience. This isn't the only entry that attempts to make you feel like a terrible person.
interesting, this is my first AC so i always thought it was just about a silly mech going boom boom
@@lasaha5856 This is the only Armored core where you get a Heroic ending, we'll just say.
As someone who went through Four and For Answer... And read what happened in Verdict Day. (Due to unavailability.) God. It never gets easier when you have to do any of this.
We're sorry Joshua... I wish we could have been heroes together... Damn the League. Damn Omer Sciences.
It's just a job 621
20 million, 40 million, 60 million!
I felt terrible after killing G6. I though I had a chance to make sure at least one member survived but then the game reminded me what route I was on, and that was that. Didn’t hit as hard taking out the vespers, with the except of rusty, the vespers are a slimy backstabbing bunch
It’s just Snail that’s a piece of shit
-Frued is only in it for the thrill
-O’Keefe tries to warn you that changing society isn’t as hopeful as it seems
-Hawkins was nice to Pater, even saying he wishes it was himself who fell instead if we kill Pater but die to him
-We don’t see much of Materlink’s personality but she doesn’t shit talk us when we fight her
-Swinburne compliments us if we spare him and actually goes through with getting us a reward in exchange (though sadly this gets him punished)
-Even Pater who seems power hungry at first glance still weeps over O’Keefe and Hawkins, leaning into his AC’s name “Dual Nature”
I fully believe no person in the story is truly evil or truly good
@@captaindragon133V.III feared that Coral Release will make AllMind too powerful… so we blew AllMind up and did it ourselves lmao
@@captaindragon133 except snail, screw snai, even iguazu seems like a guy you can chill with if you get to know him well enough
yeah the Red Guns for me were the best, i loved Michigan and his shit talk and G6 and his over enthusiasm, I don't even think you're supposed to encounter him at the end so it wasn't a pleasant surprise...
I only felt bad for pater
"It's lonely at the top"
"You can't please everyone"
"Stay sitting on the fence and you make no enemies, but no friends either"
....You're gonna carry that weight.
Charity’s lines if you kill Carla first kill me.
“….Shes dead, tourist.”
And then he immediately says "You just made a big mistake". Chatty was not messing around
In Dark Souls, you fight bosses.
In Armored Core 6, you are the boss.
Not quite.
The bosses in Dark Souls spear your in-game character.
But the bosses in Armored Core 6 are the EMOTIONS that spear your REAL LIFE HEART!
i think the worst was betraying ayre and how she stays connected to you throughout your fight with her
"You and I...could have walked together."
reaally hits home
I'm ngl I like Ayre but I just don't feel the same connection I do with the others. She's kinda... bland. She has a few funny moments though, and she's a great fight.
Nope... Ayre is bland as fuck. Killing Michigan, Walter, Rusty feels way worse than some literal C-pulse wave mutation that can talk.
@@damnman5113”than some literal C wave mutation who can talk”
And Michigan is some old dude's voice over a radio. You simplifying it says nothing about their character.
@@damnman5113 She's not even human, but the only innocent one. The others are killers and mercs. Especially Walter, who wanted to make up for those past mistakes.
@@leadfaun in lore Ayre is nothing but a particle with anime voice and Walter, Michigan, Rusty all were real...
I could not bring myself to kill basically my friends for my schizophrenia waifu.
I let the student pilot kill me once, he sounded so pleased with himself 😊
Then he proceeded to have a callsign of his own and become Gun 13 as he was supposed to before we took it from him lol
@@lasaha5856 then immediately dies cause his ac's not rated for RLF artillery positions focusing him on the dam mission or the bazooka wielding ac at the end.
@@cr90captain89if he gets lucky, then he's screwed on the ice worm, either forgetting to slap on the Arquebus Stun Needle Launcher or just by "doing his best" or basically getting clapped by the worm itself
@@flapflapflapflapi assume that if Raven wasn't there, Snail woukd havd just sent Freud for the Ice Worm. He went in that mission himself, he won't take any chance with a newbie on needle duty.
Meanwhile Snail: "Keep your dog/mutt on a leash!" "Huh. I guess you're not the mutt I thought you were after all... You're below that! You're vermin!"
Truly words to live by. 😢
Him and Iguana are the only characters that I would kill on sight even without pay
@@MaidenlessScrub Iguana LOL all in all I really liked them both for their respective ''unlikable'' roles
@@lasaha5856 one is a complete piece of scum that you feel good to ice, and one is the embodiment of butthurt, too salty to die
@@lasaha5856 that man lived with the sole power of salt
The only guiltless death in the game…well, him and Swinburne
Ayre's "Raven, you were the only one" when she manages to win against you in her bossfight has such a good delivery for such a short line. You can hear the devastation and regret over what could have been. Great VA performance
I honestly felt bad when fighting her. "We could have walked together" yea yea I KNOW BUT I WANT THE 3 ENDINGS TT_TT xD
The fact Carla tells you basically she understands you’ve made a decision even after you betray her. Although it’s not the one that was in line her with her plans, she respects your decision to fight her just as hard as she fights back. The carla and chatty fight wasn’t a cake walk the first time I went through it either, almost making each attempt harder and harder if you put your emotions into it
The final mission to get the Liberator of Rubicon ending hits like a truck, with Ayre on the background saying 'stop the both of you'.
Liberator ending really does hit different, the dialogue during the fight is perfect
She says that? Mustve missed it hammering an Waltuh lol.
@@are3287she spends a good chunk of the fight trying to get you and Walter to stop fighting until realizing Walter can't stop and tells you you have to defend yourself.
@@are3287once you get I think like through most of his repair kits
Arye jumps on coms and begs both of you to stop fighting
@@christianheinemann9192 Ah that explains why I didn't see this. I ran over walter in like 15 seconds.
Bricky perfectly describes this game
"If we never see an actual human in game, then why does the [insert AC battle here] hurt so much"
I wonder if Handler Walter and Michigan were good friends. He sounds regretful that you're taking the mission to take him down.
given that the boy mentioned in professor nagai's reports who he eventually sent to the jupiter colony is likely walter, and g1 michigan is the hero of jupiter, they likely have military experience together, or at very least walter knows him from that war.
@@dumbsterdives wait what? I need to check the logs Michigan also worked for Furlong Dynamics before they were defeated by Balam, is that the reason why Furlong Dynamics also made the Alba for Rusty? but why?
also there's no hints that Walter was sent to Jupiter all what Nagai states that Assistant 1's son should be in the lab for now
@@lesslighter Video Record: The Fires of Ibis: "Whatever future awaits the boy, I hope he grows into a man strong enough to seize it. I have friends in the Jupiter colonies... Surely they will look after him."
It's actually entirely possible that Michigan raised Walter, given Carla has barely aged if at all since she was Assistant #2.
@@DuxSupremus ahhh
@@DuxSupremusStill dont get how Carla is told that she looks young. Even if they both went to Jupiter and had a slower yearly passage, why does Walter already walk with a stick as if he is elderly? Or maybe he actually has an injury due to participating in the Jupiter conflict? Man Fromsoft just wont tell us
We need a Redgun ending imo. I don't think it would be "ideal" lorewise joining a company and remaining just another AC, but none of the endings seem totally good for 621. You're either reviled, you lose all your friends but Ayre, or you're used, betrayed, & fulfil a plan anyways. 621 would have a family with the Redguns.
I would’ve followed Michigan to hell and back
Discarting the obviously BAD ending (Fires of Raven):
*Liberator of Rubicon:* You get to live. Ayre is still with you, but you had to kill Carla, Chatty and... Walter. Those sins will weight on your soul. With the money earned 621 could undo the augmentation and be normal again (I guess Walter's initial lie about earning their life back wasn't a lie after all). No certainty on what this could mean to their Contact with Ayre. Rusty is MIA, probably dead. It is not clarified but... he most likely died on Walter's surprise attack.
621 may have or may not have killed Michigan, but in any scenario, his death is guaranteed. Balam is decimated and so is Arquebus. Some might have survived tho, like Red or O'Keefe.
*Alea iacta est:* You get to live and walk along Ayre, as you are united with her and many others, as the symbiosis between humanity and coral is reality. We don't know yet what this really means, but it is said to be evolution (I hope VaatiVidya can help us understand this ending better). The liberation front is most likely alive, so is Rusty as he didn't get back to fighting after losing to you at the entrance of Institute City. Sadly, 621 killed most if not all Redguns and Vespers. Carla died. Walter died believing you betrayed him. 621 kills Chatty.
At least you saved millions of lives in Rubicon and kept the solar system uncontaminated. 621 didn't burn it all away.
Both endings gave good parts and bad parts.
Fires of Raven is just bad (not in writing but in moral outcome) as 621 just kills EVERYONE on the planet and leaves it empty, dry, lifeless. Betrayed everyone, even Ayre, just to fulfill a legacy based on FEAR. 621 might have survived, or perished on the very flames they started.
Sorry for the long reply. I.... I wasn't planning on this being this long! hahaha.
@@HumbertoHernandez Imo Alea Est is the worst ending possible. The symbiosis/evolution is supposed to be as agonizing & deadly as Gen4 augumentation thus Coral Release kills A LOT of people in the galaxy, men, women & definitely children. For those who survived, they have to deal with an evolution forced upon them that they didn't ask for- life as an AC with an autonomous subconscious like Ayre. Based on the last words of Alea Est, "Activating Combat Mode" with no one around but other AC's you can safely guess that they're now fighting and killing each other.
Seeing as the main goal of Coral Releases evolution is to make humanity stronger, this likely means the prime directive is survival of the fittest. There is no humanity, no point to living besides continuing to fight each other. At least as fragile squishy humans we could find other things to live for. This future is what Walter was trying to avoid, while the Liberator Ending still makes this an eventuality because the Coral is still around & so is allmind who will still be trying to do Coral Release, the Fires of Raven destroys it so this can never come to pass. It's definitely a destructive ending- but by comparison to total human extinction to make way for this new species focused on nothing but combat... it's worth it.
@@HumbertoHernandez o also, if you don't choose the mission to kill Michigan, after the one you chose Walter informs you Rusty did instead. I'm p sure Michigan dies no matter what.
would be a perfect DLC ending path, even if it isnt going to be a cannon ending i would like to see it.
As someone who has completed all achievements and suffered through the emotional downfall after the first playthrough(i did Fires of Raven then Liberator) this struck a nerve real bad... thank you for this magnificent wurk
Much appreciated! i liked pretty much all endings, but Liberator hits a little too hard
@@lasaha5856 Only gripe I have with Liberator is that Walter's boss fight felt a bit underwhelming (mechanically, not emotionally mind you) compared to Ayre and preceeding Balteus/Snail fight
@@Rigel_6 Honestly, I agree and yet...I like it. It feels in keeping with what that fight is. One more duel, not terribly different from all the others, but this time it's only exceptional because of who your opponent is.
@@Rigel_6I've only finished the liberator of rubicon ending, and walter was almost hard. I feel like part of the point of it is showing that you surpassed your augmentations, considering he had the same stuff as you
Yo same my first ending was Fires, then Liberator, the last Ending is just fucking wild seeing you betray everyone 💀
If the big robot game isn't making you feel things you are not paying attention.
Now waiting for the sequel for this video, cause we all know there's more depression core than this.
"You flew just out of reach......buddy....."
I think the worse when you going for the liberator ending and after finishing the second to last mission
Walter's fight hit me the hardest, but its kind of bittersweet. He'd never admit it, but Walter had always hoped that we would eventually outgrow the need for a Handler. (Ex. His last "job" for us was to 'Find our freedom').
It is quite sad that Walter dies knowing his friend's last wishes will never be granted, but on the inside he's secretly proud of us in that we made our own choices whether or not the Coral burns. Seeing as how Walter was finally able to see Ayre next to us, it reassures him that whatever path we take, we won't be alone.
I was sad when fighting him, not only for what Arquebus did to him in the re-education camp, but having to face him...knowing that I didn't fulfill his wishes of burning the Coral. But yeah, he was ok with it as he also wanted 621 to find their own freedom, path, desires... and when he said "Look at you 621... you found a friend..." it was perfect. Like, "It's ok for me to go now." He kinda is a father figure here. It's a bittersweet ending.
Imagine a happy From Soft game. Pro tip: You can't
I don't have to, they already made The Adventures of Cookie and Cream.
What the hell? Didn't see that coming lol@@bansho7076
You have fanfiction for that haha :(
Sekiro
I just realized something that makes the escaping Watchpoint Alpha mission in NG++ hit so much harder on the feels.
You kill both Pater and Red in it, who were the two guys who've been giving you most of the jobs from the corporations, and you find both of them broken men when they meet you.
You killed all of their friends, including the ones they were closest to; Michigan for Red and O'Keefe for Pater.
Those two were the only reason you got to where you are now, as the jobs and missions they gave you are what brought you here. And here you kill them both as they weep and rage against the mute monster who killed nearly all of their comrades.
Also interesting to note is that they’re both the “lowest” ranking members of their respective AC squads (barring G7 Hakra since they’re dead by the time we arrive on Rubicon 3).
The amount of knife twisting i felt doing certain things to characters I really liked. Gameplay, VAs, sfx, OSTs, really made it an unforgettable experience.
Armored Core has always been dark. But damn I wasn't ready for how much AC6 wanted to hit me in the heart.
The true Depression Core 6: "You flew just out of reach...Buddy."
The sound design is amazing. Possibly the best voice acting across entire cast of any game I have played with over 80k hours. So much is not even used in this video
They can’t afford to have bad VAs here because the characters’ personalities are expressed exclusively from their voices. No fancy facial animations, no cutscenes, and yet the cast is so memorable
@@MaidenlessScrub*"YOUR ABILITY TO RUIN MY FIELDTRIPS IS UNCANNY!"*
@@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod "You RUINED our little fieldtrip, Walter. I'm billing you for tuition fees, TOO!"
@@MaidenlessScrubright?!???!??!!!! I swear, even the MT voices are memorable, and they are just side characters.
@@joevaghn457 the only one I don't like much is the RLF MT female voice. She sounds like a baby girl, and her performance is too... I don't know but it sounds off
Gen4 augmentation are known to become emotionless post-augment. This whole trip is kond of a stress test for 621.
The strongest choices require the strongest wills..
Honestly you missed the most depressing one,
Going from war buddies with Rusty to destroying him in the end.
Handler walters last words after you defeat him in battle.
And same for Ayre after you choose the path to burn the coral.
It get's worse. Rusty learned that from the 'Uncle' of the RLF, who absolutely must be the source for that saying, because he uses it the one mission you do with him. So Rusty was passing it on.
Well, in Liberator or Rubicon he dies, same on Fires of Rubicon (albeit on harsher and sadder circumstances) but in Alea iacta est he lives. 621 defeats him but he doesn't come back with another AC to die. Some say he dies off-screen as Allmind kills all the vespers but there's no confirmation of this really happening. Well, it's what I do believe, that he's with the RLF somewhere in Rubicon (and then the whole Coral Release thing happens)
Just a voiceline and logo as representation, but still they are one of the most memorable characters in video games
“Look at you 621, youve… found a friend.”
For anyone that got emotional Don't !. this is the way. Gen 3 world is literrally like john wick assasins world. You wanna live by the AC you must be ready to die by the AC.
This is the ravens way.
As Nocturne Said: "Were Both Ravens... Just do what comes naturally"
You want to become a mercenary then killing is impartially is the job.
Respect their death. Don't be sad they died, be glad that they fought their fight. As without it the story lack weight.
Armored Core Nexus was the only other AC game I've played, I skipped Gen 4 and 5 because I didn't have a playstation but also they felt very different.
I'm glad to have come back to AC with gen 6, it feels like gen 3 but better in all aspects.
I haven't been this sad since that mission to take out Jack-O in Last Raven. He knew he was dead meat, all he asked from us was to send him out with a bang. He even gets mad at you for holding back (your AP dropping to 50%). Then he thanks you when his AP drops to zero.
Glad to see another Gen 3 Raven, yeah just like what walter said all of this just a job just do what comes naturally as a raven
For me, the missions in AC3-Nexus felt like another day in the office. Last Raven is where things get a bit emotional.
" a raven is just a crow with a colder heart. Crows at least wait until you die"
That Balam edit gave me chills. We'll done
Thank you very much!
this goes way to hard
MIA is the most depressing one imo, everyone is just battle stress and crying of regrets. And also get to know how horrifying Allmind is
"Augmented Human C4-621
Entering Depression Mode"
Sorry, they all had battle logs.
Ye that Coral Oscillator is not gonna collect itself
Stagger Core 6: Fires of Zimmerman.
Bro casually dropped the most depressing montage and thought we wouldn't cry (notice)
it was supposed to be super simple at first but couldn't help myself, once you put the music in it's game over
Armored Core VI: Kill your enemies, kill your friends, kill your will to live.
As a veteran AC player, the moment I start the game I mentally prepared and emotionally distance myself from any character. Some way or the other, you're gonna kill em.
It's just a job 621...all of it.
:(
Top 5 Saddest Boss Fights in Armored Core VI
5. TESTER AC / Dafeng Student Pilot
4. STEEL HAZE ORTUS / Rusty
3. FULL COURSE / "Cinder" Carla + CIRCUS / "Chatty" Stick
2. IB-C03: HAL 826 / Handler Walter
1. IB-07: SOL 644 / Ayre
Only time i felt bad taking down any of the pilots and grunts was taking down Balam. Except for that one traitor who joined the Vespers. Gun 13 sounding off, and sending off the Redguns, OOHRAH
I keep coming back to this video. This game was something else
G1 Michigan was the best of the Redguns. Maybe not our *most* favorite, but still one of the best.
Carla made us smile and laugh, she counted on us like she was our only true friend.
V.VIII/V.III Pater was the kind and respectable one, and that made us all respect him.
Walter maybe was just a handler, but he was *OUR* handler. He made sure everyone respected us.
Rusty always had our back when nobody else did, even if it put him in danger.
And after the story ends, there is only one question left to be answered...
*"FROMSOFTWARE WHY"*
The voiceline of Chatty laughing got me on my playthrough
I would have loved to have worked for Balam honestly if they would have ever given me the choice in game
True, would have been a proud member of the Red Guns
We can somewhat expect we're gonna get that choice whenver expansions for AC6 come out.
The game has been developed with a fraction of a budget of Elden Ring and has had very good revenue...
@@ARCAGNELL0the AC series has never had you become part of a corporation, only ever take jobs from them. It would defeat the whole point of the independent merc barrative. I would not expect it.
@@ARCAGNELL0 I doubt that they're going to give us DLC if you want any extra content we better make it ourselves at least there's an armored core on steam finally.....
@@ethanspaziani1070Armored Core has never made them that much money, yet not a single generation of games got away without at least one expansion, even the 5th gen which did really bad. Fromsoft truly loves this franchise, and if it wasn't because ER's dlc has been on development since a while ago, I would expect one for AC6 coming out first.
I just realized, when Michigan says G13 "Just became available" I think it became available because the student pilot you killed in the previous mission was G13 (or atleast going to be G13)
Betraying Carla immediately after she saves you actually made me feel like an asshole accompanied by feeling like shit too.
I felt awful killing Michigan, Rusty, Red, Ayre, Carla and Chatty across all of my playthroughs. Still felt awful killing Walter but at that point it was a mercy.
Fantastic video.
If you take out Chatty before Carla, she goings into a crying, depressive rage and intensifies her attacks against you. When you take her out then, she admits defeat and just... Damn. It hits harder.
Walter's fight still remains the saddest fight for me.
Fucking sick, really captures the great acting. Good music in the background too.
thx!
@@lasaha5856yeah it's really good I hope you do more
On my first playthrough I did the Fires of Raven ending. Burning down the Rubicon is an awful thing, but at least, saving the humanity in outer systems for good kinda worth it. But Liberator and Allmind... In any way, we've killed *a sh*t ton of people on Rubicon.* Especially in Allmind playthrough, as it kills everyone just as in Fires of Raven. And for what? For a speck of hope that everything will be fine? We have *no guarantees* that all of this has done something good. Maybe it even made the situation worse. So yeah, depression must be the main idea of AC6.
I also did the Fires of Raven first, good thing I did so that I can get the other endings to feel better. The Fear of catastrophic-failure/calamity of Coral taking over everything to the point for us to commit terracide and destroy coral would be in vain. The corps may look for something else and start the cycle over.
4:55 "Your safety is now guaranteed"
Next mission: *Literally tries to kill you*
its like every government ever. If they try to assure your safety, you are in great danger
In my third playthrough I just bursted enemy ACs down ASAP just avoid handling emotional damage from them talking.
It's insane what this game manages to pull off with just a handful of voice lines per character.
I really love that Carla "Cinder" AC is a Zaku II
"let's show them there's a future for Rubicon, beyond these scorched skies..."
Straight sobbing. G6 Red, O'keefe, Carla, Chatty, Michigan, Pater... one sucker punch after another. Not a single face seen throughtout the entire game yet it feels like a knife being twisted in your stomach with wll their deaths.
Edit : I've already commented on this vid before but I keep finding myself here😭
The VA’s did such a fantastic job too, which made the feels hit so much harder😢
I always hoped the "Alea Lacta Est" ending would be the best ending since maybe more people survived
Maybe all the people who died would live on in the coral
fires of raven best ending
That's what I thought the combat logs were for, to add them to the simulations in the arena and the downloads for allmond to save the dead for coral release while taking them from the board
"G13 your ability to ruin my field trips is uncanny!"
The dialogue changes if you eliminate chatty first and it’s honestly hit the feels when I heard Carla’s dialogue in that event
Chatty stick was my favorite. Just throwing away all of your humanity while running the allmind route. Just betrayal after betrayal. It's awful. "Never learned to laugh" - Chatty Stick
I wish there were two more endings to Rubicon: One where you more or less joined Balam as their new Gun 13, and one where you joined the Vespers in Arquebus. That would've been so toasty.
The best way I can describe AC6 is that it's a story with only one happy ending -- yours.
Walter when you fight him
"All credit to you, undo the sugery, back to normal"
"Look at you 621, you found a Friend"
And i really like the ost of this fight "the man who past the touch"
Rusty when you fight him
"I will chase the clouds beyond the scorched sky of rubicon, only i can fly high enough"
"You fly out of reach"
when Pixy once again enters the cockpit of the ADF-1 Morgan...
yeah definitely the fight with the most feels, so that's what they meant with Arquebus' "re-education" program
@@lasaha5856 It's Snail's last middle finger, and rarely have I hated a character so much in fiction. I admit, it's good writing, because ho ho man, I loathe that man for it.
Pater hits me hardest, he's so charming in the briefings, and the way he breaks down over O'Keefe. It hurts bro
Pater's arena profile says he lacks empathy, and during his fights he swings between mourning his comrades an being arrogant and dismissive of them. Something ain't right with that guy.
he has identity disorder coz of coral augmentation.@@MisterCynic18
I really appreciate vids like this - I tend to miss most of the chatter that happens during battles due to a combination of being too focused on the fight to pay attention, and killing targets too quickly for them to finish talking. Means I miss out on a lot of fine nuances, unfortunately...
it happens, and yes there is a TON more that happens that i noticed and wasn't included here, (it would have been too long) secret encounters, cutscene dialogues, logs, intermission dialogues, etc, lets just wait for the dark souls lore guy (VaatiVidya) to make a video on it
@@lasaha5856 Eh, i 100%'ed the game, so I HAVE read all the logs, seen all the cutscenes, found all the secret encounters (since they always have Combat Logs attached), and of course, sat through most of the intermission-dialogues three times. It was just... keeping track of what people were saying WHILE simultaneously dodging a barrage of missiles and looking for a place to stick my Laser-Lance that I couldn't manage. :P
The yez armor core the game you get attach to the character just by their giant faceless mechs
If you have the V5 and V8 assassination fight. If you kill V5 first, V8 cries. It made me feel bad and sad for him.
I was way too pre-occupied trying to survive the first time I fought to remember the dialogue, and the next time I did that mission, I fire 1 Earshot and kill V.V, the other cannon kills V.VIII right after so the only thing he says is, "No! I just made V.V!"
The dude was celebrating his damn promotion for all of 2 seconds before he died XD
Welcome to AC. you're emotional status is about to missile and lasered to hell and back
I'm actually close to crying. Man... you hit me right in the feels.
the story is so good
yup, too bad a lot of people settle in with just the first playthrough not realizing there's like 40% of the game they're missing
"once somethings alive, it dosent die easy" this game will be with me forever, i didnt know i could make childhood memories late into my 20s.
God this really made me depressed. Thanks for the magnificent compilation. Got to relive all those first time feelings. 😢
My emotional stagger bar is veru full...
Anyone noticed Carla and Chatty look like Optimus and Bumblebee
look at you 621… you found… a friend.
Wow it’s so crazy how the three endbosses are literally the three voices you hear the most you always need to kill those you know the best yourself
Damn, this was incredible. Love all the cinematography and storytelling to really enhance the original experience! Awesome work❤️
Thanks a lot! and the music is always an excellent Director for these kinds of things
Armored Core is back baby you know what that means
the crushing ennui of late stage corporatism future cyberpunk
You killed them for the sake of completion, I killed them because murder is fun. We are not the same.
My first playthrough was the Fires of Raven ending and I embodied this. My final decision was because I wanted the cash so I could kill more efficiently on my next playthrough.
Old King moment
@@fefega sundowner mindset
"Everything is twisted. You. This world. All of it..."
Wynne D -Armored Core 4A
Reading this quote now feels even worse.
we need the part 2 with ( rusty walter and ayre ) among other small ones like say carla saving us maybe mix in father dolmayan
This was the best armored core edit ever to exist and has me wellin up like a baby