I don't understand why you'd wear your down jacket over your outer shell? down jackets are water resistant but not waterproof. Outer shells are waterproof and windproof.
I assure you it does work like that and is standard alpine mountaineering practice. Watch some documentaries on climbing big peaks and tell me if you see hard shells over down suits.
@@Ultimate-Kilimanjaro Can you go into a bit more detail as to why? My thinking is, the down jacket will get wet from rain/snow and then lose it's performance. Not trying to be a troll or anything just genuinely curious.
@@npwn6569 It is unlikely you will wear the puffy coat while hiking. It would probably be too hot. You’d only wear the puffy coat for extremely cold/freezing temperatures. Meaning it’s too cold for it to be raining. So the fact that down jackets aren’t waterproof becomes irrelevant. On the nighttime summit attempt, let’s say you’re wearing a base layer, a couple mid layers and the hardshell. During the ascent, which takes 6-8 hours normally, you’ll take several breaks on the way to the top. To prevent from getting cold while at rest, you put the puffy coat over everything you already have on. It’s literally the first thing you should do. Then do any other tasks, like drink water, eat a snack, make other gear adjustments. Just before you start moving again, the last thing to do is take the puffy coat off and stuff it back in the top of the pack. It would be impractical to switch the order of your layers. You don’t want to expose yourself to the elements and lose heat by taking off the hardshell. And think about how big your hardshell would have to be to go over a heavy duty puffy jacket. It’d be ridiculously oversized and lose functionality in other situations.
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I don't understand why you'd wear your down jacket over your outer shell? down jackets are water resistant but not waterproof. Outer shells are waterproof and windproof.
Where is the logic in wearing an insulated jacket as the last, over hardshell jacket? That doesn't work like that
I assure you it does work like that and is standard alpine mountaineering practice. Watch some documentaries on climbing big peaks and tell me if you see hard shells over down suits.
@@Ultimate-Kilimanjaro Can you go into a bit more detail as to why? My thinking is, the down jacket will get wet from rain/snow and then lose it's performance. Not trying to be a troll or anything just genuinely curious.
@@npwn6569 It is unlikely you will wear the puffy coat while hiking. It would probably be too hot. You’d only wear the puffy coat for extremely cold/freezing temperatures. Meaning it’s too cold for it to be raining. So the fact that down jackets aren’t waterproof becomes irrelevant.
On the nighttime summit attempt, let’s say you’re wearing a base layer, a couple mid layers and the hardshell. During the ascent, which takes 6-8 hours normally, you’ll take several breaks on the way to the top. To prevent from getting cold while at rest, you put the puffy coat over everything you already have on.
It’s literally the first thing you should do. Then do any other tasks, like drink water, eat a snack, make other gear adjustments. Just before you start moving again, the last thing to do is take the puffy coat off and stuff it back in the top of the pack.
It would be impractical to switch the order of your layers. You don’t want to expose yourself to the elements and lose heat by taking off the hardshell. And think about how big your hardshell would have to be to go over a heavy duty puffy jacket. It’d be ridiculously oversized and lose functionality in other situations.
@@Ultimate-Kilimanjaro That makes perfect sense, thanks so much for the explanation
You should in fact have more than 1 pair of socks