what jay refered to as "Dc'ing" around the 12 min mark is actually a product of dubble tapping a cast with sorc, youll get stuck with your hadns like that untill you try and cast again, its kinda buggy i hope they fix it
Bro I’ll take another damage nerf if they’d just get rid of slow projectiles. The only time combined projectile spells are good is when they aren’t looking or paying attention. Just not fun man.
Dont worry class is new it will get fixed and balanced. Next patch will have some tweaks on the sorcerer again making him better and fixing all the disadvantages that have now.
Wizard has been that way forever... And that's jot a good thing. The magic shouldn't be slow if everything can simply side step the projectile. Atleast with sorc they have unlimited spells. Wiz spends theirs and are cooked. Defenseless....its dogshit.
the insta cast perk should be replaced with auto mixing of spells perk and the -99% movement should have ben reduced to like ~60 for how massive the nerf to dmg and cast speed was. these are bandaid ideas but still, classic IM. From top dawg OP class to completely useless dogshit and next week who knows.
Literally. It’s honestly sad. They have NO idea how to balance the games classes. Figured by now they’d have a good idea of how to actually do balance changes but sadly, here we are.
@VintageNarwhal it's impossible to balance in it's current state... Their class design itself is incoherent with how other classes are designed, with no standard for damage, or utility, etc. for example, druid... Druid's ability to gap close, silence, and two tap any ranged, while also being able to switch into an impossible to hit rat, broke so many class matchups and game mechanics. Most other game's would've made it so each form switch had a cd, so you're committed to a form for 3-5 seconds, and rat only lasts for 3-5 seconds as a defensive CD ability, then it's on cooldown for 30 seconds. That way they can actually make counter play and tune druid numbers accordingly instead of having to balance around supper gimmicky and toxic gameplay.
Before the nerf that’s all I did - but I did get one tapped once from some fucking spell 😂 I was like yeah, that’s fair. Now with it being nerfed I’d be able to do that confidently I think.
Holding W classes hard counter them now. Which fucking sucks, may as well play Mordhau if everyone just wants Melee to be useful. Playing a fantasy game and everyone hates magic????
The way they need to aim to make sorcerer if they want success, is to keep the 25% magic bonus for apex, but put it back to 100% cast speed, the class needs to become a mobile turret, meaning you can only be in damage mode while standing still, but with enough cast speed that you can still kite PVE mobs and use things like eruption without having to kite across the map first, or find a cheese spot. Basically, it needs to be come a jump and cast mage.
Try the 4 time cooldown reduction for instant casting and all the other random perks it’s actually very good, it’s difficult to react to instant casting
I can attest to this, i play cleric so i have a heater, seeing a sorcerer instantly prepare a elemental bolt is nigh impossible to react to if you arent psychic or get lucky, i do hope they tone down the damage of elemental bolt a bit, 50 damage every 3 seconds without time perk gets a little nuts
"Thats so cringe!"... as he gets killed in the same spam that he killed the other almost entire team with. Idk how but Jay's gone down in quality lately. Hell that whole group has just become complainers
The only good spells left are just Teleport, ice elemental bolt, and flamefrost spear. The rest are shadowed by wizard spells that hits like a truck. Before the apex sorcery perk with 100% damage increase made all the spells good but now most are trash
I think they need to make the single spells for sorcerer a little bit stronger and give it faster cast speed or make the merge instant instead of another cast bar. You can’t peek on anyone with a bow and standing still to cast is so ass. I feel like fire arrows and some of the other spells do little to no damage.
I love it keep him down. Now needs just some tweak on some stuff and it will be perfect. At the begining was ridicuoulsy OP and honestly i was laughing at how ridiculouse was. It was even funny for me haha.
Just stop playing this game until the devs pull their heads outta their asses. As it goes rn it’s either gonna die or another company is gonna make a better version. If we want ironmace to step it up we need to give them a reason to.
The nerf was really fuckin rough, Lightning Storm went from BIS to sorcerer's worst spell by sheer numbers; It takes five ticks to deal the same damage that a spell with half its cooldown does instantly. It should do a lot of you catch a guy in the right spot, but they even made the spell area smaller
@duncangreywater its fine imo i was playing the class earlier but I do feel like the perks need tweaking like I'm not gunna take the perk to not move if it dosen't do much just reduce the penalties also so it's worth taking
Bro the lag making this borderline unwatchable, how are you even playing this good with such shitty servers damn. Devs must be playing on LAN so they never have to see this shit. Yeah I know bold of me to assume they play this game considering all the RAW batter we get every update.
This guy makes content for the game, and has been playing it forever, Im sure the short comings of the game are getting to him, especially with how unreceptive and disconnected the devs are with the game. Also theres a lot to complain about lmao
im glad i dont play with people like you and your friends. just greedy taking whatever you see is good first. leaving your homies to die instead of dying with the homies.
You can tell the way it was designed, it was supposed to be a nuke-y spellcaster with high CDs, since it has almost no defensive cooldowns against any rundown classes. Wizard is more consistent damage
@@ColdWetnStarving Who is talking about lightning storm? Im not 100% sure what skill it was. I think Flamefrost spear or elemental bolt. As far as I know there isnt that much of a CD on it.
@@l3lester17 Its Frostflame spear, i strongly recommend trying the class and testing that spell before judging its dmg too much, Its very slow and slim hitbox. with Instacast its 31 sec cd, and without its a 3-4 second cast time. its 60 total dmg + 15dmg with APEX, but it does do headshot dmg. Most of sorcs spells are clunky and slow, just a worse wizard in current state
Sooo... we all see now that he electro-dashed on that golem and grabbed its aggro yeah? lol
Yes
Yesss
Yes
yeah how does he want the Ai to work if you hit it?
@@ItzTweek He is specting to join a game and having no agrro from mobs.
what jay refered to as "Dc'ing" around the 12 min mark is actually a product of dubble tapping a cast with sorc, youll get stuck with your hadns like that untill you try and cast again, its kinda buggy i hope they fix it
Bro I’ll take another damage nerf if they’d just get rid of slow projectiles. The only time combined projectile spells are good is when they aren’t looking or paying attention. Just not fun man.
Dont worry class is new it will get fixed and balanced. Next patch will have some tweaks on the sorcerer again making him better and fixing all the disadvantages that have now.
Wizard has been that way forever...
And that's jot a good thing. The magic shouldn't be slow if everything can simply side step the projectile. Atleast with sorc they have unlimited spells. Wiz spends theirs and are cooked. Defenseless....its dogshit.
@@ferd1775wizard is easy in comparison
the insta cast perk should be replaced with auto mixing of spells perk and the -99% movement should have ben reduced to like ~60 for how massive the nerf to dmg and cast speed was. these are bandaid ideas but still, classic IM. From top dawg OP class to completely useless dogshit and next week who knows.
4:29 nazen just in his own world bro, “ranger on me!” “Where where where”
Great video bro!
IM needs a professional way to create and test game design. SDF not being able to relinquish control is the only thing holding this game back
Literally. It’s honestly sad. They have NO idea how to balance the games classes. Figured by now they’d have a good idea of how to actually do balance changes but sadly, here we are.
@@VintageNarwhalthey’ve been pointlessly changing numbers balance wise, far more than adding to, and fixing the game.
Games fun.
@VintageNarwhal it's impossible to balance in it's current state... Their class design itself is incoherent with how other classes are designed, with no standard for damage, or utility, etc. for example, druid... Druid's ability to gap close, silence, and two tap any ranged, while also being able to switch into an impossible to hit rat, broke so many class matchups and game mechanics. Most other game's would've made it so each form switch had a cd, so you're committed to a form for 3-5 seconds, and rat only lasts for 3-5 seconds as a defensive CD ability, then it's on cooldown for 30 seconds.
That way they can actually make counter play and tune druid numbers accordingly instead of having to balance around supper gimmicky and toxic gameplay.
@@happyaccidentmakergood suggestions
The awkward casting of Sorcerer makes it feel so unlikable, how are people NOT blitzing this class?
They are. It’s hard to counter W key classes
Before the nerf that’s all I did - but I did get one tapped once from some fucking spell 😂 I was like yeah, that’s fair.
Now with it being nerfed I’d be able to do that confidently I think.
Elemental bolt to the head is the main issue unless it's on cd but now with the damage nerfed by 75% it should be a free kill on rush
Holding W classes hard counter them now. Which fucking sucks, may as well play Mordhau if everyone just wants Melee to be useful.
Playing a fantasy game and everyone hates magic????
Sorcerer needs a better tune. But every class they introduce on the first go is like that
The way they need to aim to make sorcerer if they want success, is to keep the 25% magic bonus for apex, but put it back to 100% cast speed, the class needs to become a mobile turret, meaning you can only be in damage mode while standing still, but with enough cast speed that you can still kite PVE mobs and use things like eruption without having to kite across the map first, or find a cheese spot. Basically, it needs to be come a jump and cast mage.
Didn’t know you played with Redami Jay.
Love that guy, this vid goes pretty in depth. 🔥
That electric shield goes away the moment you teleported
Yeah, you need buff duration and instant cast if you want to buff your sorc before it's dash
i feel like there is a super bad delay on casting with sorc
yeah hand animation takes forever to proc the cast
At 12:24 you said dc but iv had this happen multiple times its when you spam a spell in one hand without casting your hand gets stuck
has anybody tried going full tank with this sorceress blink ability? teleport right into them with full PDR set?
I believe Damood has been running this kind of build you talking about
yes it sucks ur so slow u cant hit anything
Try the 4 time cooldown reduction for instant casting and all the other random perks it’s actually very good, it’s difficult to react to instant casting
I can attest to this, i play cleric so i have a heater, seeing a sorcerer instantly prepare a elemental bolt is nigh impossible to react to if you arent psychic or get lucky, i do hope they tone down the damage of elemental bolt a bit, 50 damage every 3 seconds without time perk gets a little nuts
"Thats so cringe!"... as he gets killed in the same spam that he killed the other almost entire team with. Idk how but Jay's gone down in quality lately. Hell that whole group has just become complainers
the irony of 9:06 XD
Sorcerer looks really cool.
The only good spells left are just Teleport, ice elemental bolt, and flamefrost spear. The rest are shadowed by wizard spells that hits like a truck. Before the apex sorcery perk with 100% damage increase made all the spells good but now most are trash
Not my team being the first clip post patch 😭
Man really thought he wasn't aggroed on
I couldn’t imagine seeing the problem this game has with third parties and deciding to make it worst. It really shows that this is the devs first game
Always good content 👍
I see you’ve been watching Tyler1
I think they need to make the single spells for sorcerer a little bit stronger and give it faster cast speed or make the merge instant instead of another cast bar. You can’t peek on anyone with a bow and standing still to cast is so ass. I feel like fire arrows and some of the other spells do little to no damage.
They nerfed the standing still perk down to 25% , not even worth grabing rn but i agree with merge spell being instant
@ yeah i run 3 perks because the last three are just so bad now. Being able to cast it as soon as it merged would be a lot better.
it seems like after the patch lighting storm is bugged it doesnt even work sometimes
This was before patch too lol. It's in the patch notes but they didn't actually fix it
@@Mustacheoro reminds me of the time they said they fixed Judgment also
I actually prefer sorc after the nerf takes so much more skill now
This “sorcerer” class is just a better warlock melee class and it just torqs my soul man. Uniquely
I love it keep him down. Now needs just some tweak on some stuff and it will be perfect. At the begining was ridicuoulsy OP and honestly i was laughing at how ridiculouse was. It was even funny for me haha.
So it's still OP as hell, just toned down a bit. Okay
I LOVE THIS PATCH
No point in showing this tbh, the cast speed isnt like that any more lol
I find it sad this game is mainly just content creators that wanna make the bag playing. Its that bad but they need the income
1min 24 sec, u had time to take a blue? why not
Speaking of roblox and enemy AIs you should try deepwoken actually.
winner
who is Blue?
Red
the class still has some insane potential but they will probably just end up reinforcing the gimmicks in usual fashion.
What if devs allowed mods so that people could cook their own balanced version.
Just stop playing this game until the devs pull their heads outta their asses. As it goes rn it’s either gonna die or another company is gonna make a better version. If we want ironmace to step it up we need to give them a reason to.
U go from its broken to they burned it down..
Because it was broken and now they burned it down
The nerf was really fuckin rough, Lightning Storm went from BIS to sorcerer's worst spell by sheer numbers; It takes five ticks to deal the same damage that a spell with half its cooldown does instantly. It should do a lot of you catch a guy in the right spot, but they even made the spell area smaller
@duncangreywater its fine imo i was playing the class earlier but I do feel like the perks need tweaking like I'm not gunna take the perk to not move if it dosen't do much just reduce the penalties also so it's worth taking
Bro the lag making this borderline unwatchable, how are you even playing this good with such shitty servers damn. Devs must be playing on LAN so they never have to see this shit. Yeah I know bold of me to assume they play this game considering all the RAW batter we get every update.
all these guys do is complain., yawn
*Any game with a super young demographic*
@@BB-848-VAC nah bro any gamer with a demo older than 25
7 minutes in haven't heard a single complaint.
@@Pnwratmy ass😂 the first dentence of the video is a complaint
This guy makes content for the game, and has been playing it forever, Im sure the short comings of the game are getting to him, especially with how unreceptive and disconnected the devs are with the game. Also theres a lot to complain about lmao
this class sucks, crazy so many people who dont play it keep saying its broken
im glad i dont play with people like you and your friends. just greedy taking whatever you see is good first. leaving your homies to die instead of dying with the homies.
Dude it feels you are barely having fun with this game, you are malding all the time.
i cant believe i used to vouch for these devs. every patch is an L
first
soo you really having fun doing just pvp and looting anymore, mobs are just an obstacle aren't they?
No they did not. Got almost one shot again from this stupid as class.
I'm sorry but you see how slow that they cast and move??? Once you get on one they're cooked so they have to be able to deal a lot from range
You can tell the way it was designed, it was supposed to be a nuke-y spellcaster with high CDs, since it has almost no defensive cooldowns against any rundown classes.
Wizard is more consistent damage
nerfed lightning storm dmg with Apex from 240 to 62.5.. how you getting onetapped by that?
@@ColdWetnStarving Who is talking about lightning storm? Im not 100% sure what skill it was. I think Flamefrost spear or elemental bolt.
As far as I know there isnt that much of a CD on it.
@@l3lester17 Its Frostflame spear, i strongly recommend trying the class and testing that spell before judging its dmg too much, Its very slow and slim hitbox. with Instacast its 31 sec cd, and without its a 3-4 second cast time. its 60 total dmg + 15dmg with APEX, but it does do headshot dmg.
Most of sorcs spells are clunky and slow, just a worse wizard in current state
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