Thank you for the review. One thing you didn't try is using the prefilter from 5500 with the carbon and HEPA filter onto the 5300. Can you confirm if this will work? Many people would like to retrofit 5500 filters onto 5300.
I would like to know this as well. The only downfall I've seen about the 5300 is that the carbon filter doesn't offer the filtering capabilities of the pellet style carbon filter on the 5500. If you could swap the whole package along with the prefilled it's basically the same exact machine!! Seems like it should work that way, just would be nice to know from someone who already has both instead of having to buy it to test with. Thank you for your descriptions and tests showing the abilities of both machines.
The remote is nice for potentially wanting to leave it somewhere that it's not easily accessible. I was thinking of use case scenarios as well when you brought it up, but that seems pretty valid.
Awesome ideas! I wonder if you could buy the 5500 then stack them with the pellets in the back like you said, then use the replacement 5300 filters in front of it. Not sure if that is even worth it at that point though lol.
Could you just buy the 5500 prefilter to use on the 5300 with the H filter? I believe you said the only difference was the gray prefilter had the raised parts?
Hi Engineerable, thank you for doing the comparison for the replacement filters. I purchased a 5500-2 second hand for a good price and I do not necessarily care too much about the carbon pellets. Would it then be OK to purchase just the Filter A for both since I already own a C535. Thanks!
Also, have you found that Winix's recommendations of when to change the filters is accurate? Also, how do you feel about generic filters maybe you've answered all this and I'm just not putting it all together.
I think you can run the filters much longer than recommended change internals, but it depends on how much dust you have in the air. You need to be the judge by checking the airflow coming out. If you have dogs that shed a bunch of hair, it will clog quicker than when used in a clean space.
Lot of great videos here, glad l found this channel. Have you by chance tested to see if both carbon filters added to the 5500-2 causes airflow resistance? Im trying to decide between the 5500 or 5300 model.
I've always thought the foam carbon filters are better than the washable screen filters. They are so cheap that you can just replace them every few months for a few bucks. So I agree that using a foam filter in front of the carbon pellet filter makes sense.
That is a good point that I forgot, the carbon pellets do generate carbon dust if exposed to vibration (from past experience working with industrial pelletized carbon filters) so that may be why it's in front of the HEPA, however there should always be a fine prefilter (HEPA grade) in front of the carbon also to extend the life of the carbon filter.
@@engineerable Thanks, that helps. I am more concerned about what is coming out of the filter than what is going in. If adding carbon filter is causing it to release fine dust in surrounding then I was thinking may be not to use that carbon filter. Planning to buy house my house.
They say it's "True HEPA", which is 99.97% between H13 and H14 winixeurope.eu/en/what-is-a-hepa-filter-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=HEPA%20%E2%80%9CHigh%20Efficiency%20Particulate%20Air,classification%20U15%2C%20U16%20and%20U17.
lol, those carbon mesh filters slowly get grey with dust. you are right. there is no way the silly beads do anything substantial, I dare say, it is intended for them to sell more HEPA filters. thank you. I will be going with the 5300.
Hi, thank you so much for the video. Can you do the same with the 5300-? just to buy the additional carbon filter from the 5500? the 5500 is unfortunatelly not available in Europe (at least i did not find it) so I am looking for ways to upgrade the 5300. Thank you in advance.
@@engineerable Nice, I will try that. Thanks! Appreciate the work you've done here. This video ended up being the deciding factor for me on which air purifier to get 👍.
Do you know for sure that the 5300's carbon filter is better than the 5500's? I've seen tests (that measure VOCs in the air) that show that 5500's carbon filter removes more VOC's and doesn't need to be changed as often as the 5300's.
@@FrancoDFernando Pelletized carbon in the 5500 is superior to the mesh carbon in the 5300. It's the implementation which is incorrect. The pelletized carbon is not completely filling the filter cells, so a lot of bypass air. Also, the carbon filter should be behind the HEPA filter. Dust will clog the pelletized carbon filter quickly, so it will last longer if the air is pre filtered.
@@engineerable I've done a bit more research on this (because I'm considering buying between the 5500, 5300, and another air purifier), and there are cheaper charcoal filters you can buy for the 5500 that fill up the entire cell with charcoal. However, there were reviews saying that when they tried this filter, it blocked airflow. So perhaps they didn't fill it up for a reason. I'm still unsure if I should buy the 5500 or 5300
It would make an improvement to an extent. A larger carbon filter like something used for grow rooms would probably be the best, but prefiltering that with a HEPA filter like this is important to extend the life of the carbon media.
5300 is best filter for the money. If spending more doesn't matter, than get 5500 and add the non-woven carbon pre filter in front of the pellet filter like I show in the video.
So if you keep stacking them like wouldnt it slow the air being pulled in because its stacked and packed an burn up the motor? And My husband and I smoke and on three it cleared the room there was no lingering fog of smoke, I was very impressed. I have three cats two litter boxes back of my house smells like cats and dryer dust turned it on turbo took 20 mins and it was clear and fresh. I have not used the plasmawave just because of all the youtubes I have watched say the same and I dont understand it an if how it works would affect us. Thank you for the video Oh an mine is the 5500-2
Stacking the mesh carbon prefilter adds insignificant air resistance. Dust clogging the filters adds the most resistance. Keep your prefilters clean by vacuuming or washing them.
The thing is this: the air particles are attracted to the carbon, so it snatches them when they are close and they stick to the carbon. The designers of this were not dum dums when designing this.
The range from which the particles in the air get "snatched" is very small. Much smaller than the large spaces in the carbon filter. All real pelletized carbon filters pack the carbon in with no gaps, such that the air is forced to flow within small gaps between the pellets.
@@engineerable I just thought of something -- if they did put 10-12 more pellets in each Hexagon to fill it up then the HEPA Filter would not need to be changed out for maybe 2 years or maybe even 3, depending on how dirty the space is where you planted the WINIX. Can't get away from planned obsolescence, even with this kind of thing.
So, if buy a 5300-2 (which is cheaper than the 5500-2 at this moment), source the mesh pre-filter part for a 5500-2, buy the 'Filter H - 116130' to get the activated carbon filter, fit those all together then I would be all set to go and save a few bucks in the process, ja? Edit: Or if I just cut down those raised ridges maybe that would do the trick?
I was interested until I saw that this shitty company actually spent money, by engineering a different filter design, preventing the customer from using a cheaper filter. I will NOT support them now. As consumers, we need to start forcing these greedy companys to make quality cost effective products. Thanks for the review.
good call on switching filters on the 5500, thanks for the video
Thank you, sir. This was very helpful to me. A lot of questions got answered.
Thank you for the review. One thing you didn't try is using the prefilter from 5500 with the carbon and HEPA filter onto the 5300. Can you confirm if this will work? Many people would like to retrofit 5500 filters onto 5300.
I would like to know this as well. The only downfall I've seen about the 5300 is that the carbon filter doesn't offer the filtering capabilities of the pellet style carbon filter on the 5500. If you could swap the whole package along with the prefilled it's basically the same exact machine!! Seems like it should work that way, just would be nice to know from someone who already has both instead of having to buy it to test with. Thank you for your descriptions and tests showing the abilities of both machines.
I was wondering if it was possible to rearrange those filters and you nailed it.
Thanks a bunch for a thorough overview 👍
Glad to help out!
Will it put strain? Also if put the padded one in front then hepa then carbon pellet one so 3 in total will it put strain on the motor ?
@engineerable does the carbon filter from the 5500 fit on the 5300?
Yeah @@gurkirai629
Thank you furry hat man 5300 it is!!
Thank you for your winix videos, off the back of your hard work I've decided to buy the 5300-2. 🤞it works for allergies!
Very thorough, thank you!
Thanks for the video, question regarding which filter do you recommend is better for mold. Considering they’re both Hepa filters.
Very useful, thanks! 👍
Thanks for showing what happens when you put the 5500-2 filters into the 5300-2.
Yes!
The remote is nice for potentially wanting to leave it somewhere that it's not easily accessible. I was thinking of use case scenarios as well when you brought it up, but that seems pretty valid.
Awesome ideas!
I wonder if you could buy the 5500 then stack them with the pellets in the back like you said, then use the replacement 5300 filters in front of it. Not sure if that is even worth it at that point though lol.
Could you just buy the 5500 prefilter to use on the 5300 with the H filter? I believe you said the only difference was the gray prefilter had the raised parts?
@@fatmanchew909 that would probably work
Hi Engineerable, thank you for doing the comparison for the replacement filters. I purchased a 5500-2 second hand for a good price and I do not necessarily care too much about the carbon pellets. Would it then be OK to purchase just the Filter A for both since I already own a C535. Thanks!
Yes, filter A is compatible with Winix air cleaner models 6300, P300, 5300, 5500, 5300-2, 6300-2, AM90, C909, 9800 and C535
Also, have you found that Winix's recommendations of when to change the filters is accurate? Also, how do you feel about generic filters maybe you've answered all this and I'm just not putting it all together.
I think you can run the filters much longer than recommended change internals, but it depends on how much dust you have in the air. You need to be the judge by checking the airflow coming out. If you have dogs that shed a bunch of hair, it will clog quicker than when used in a clean space.
Better to buy the original filters. Generic filters may lie about the specs, like HEPA.
@@engineerable Thx!!
Lot of great videos here, glad l found this channel. Have you by chance tested to see if both carbon filters added to the 5500-2 causes airflow resistance? Im trying to decide between the 5500 or 5300 model.
Thanks, It will add some airflow resistance, but it doesn't matter if you're constantly recirculating the air in a room.
What size in the carbon pre filter you put in the 5500-2 i liked to buy some of Amazon
I've always thought the foam carbon filters are better than the washable screen filters. They are so cheap that you can just replace them every few months for a few bucks. So I agree that using a foam filter in front of the carbon pellet filter makes sense.
Nice insights on these filters. Does that carbon filter on 5300 release small dust particles?? May be that why it's on front of HEPA filter ?
That is a good point that I forgot, the carbon pellets do generate carbon dust if exposed to vibration (from past experience working with industrial pelletized carbon filters) so that may be why it's in front of the HEPA, however there should always be a fine prefilter (HEPA grade) in front of the carbon also to extend the life of the carbon filter.
@@engineerable Thanks, that helps. I am more concerned about what is coming out of the filter than what is going in. If adding carbon filter is causing it to release fine dust in surrounding then I was thinking may be not to use that carbon filter. Planning to buy house my house.
Would you be able to fit 5500 carbon filter into 5300? if so, would be be able to put 5300 on top of it. So 5500 and 5300 carbon in 5300 unit?
What type of hepa filter it uses?? H11, H13??
They say it's "True HEPA", which is 99.97% between H13 and H14
winixeurope.eu/en/what-is-a-hepa-filter-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=HEPA%20%E2%80%9CHigh%20Efficiency%20Particulate%20Air,classification%20U15%2C%20U16%20and%20U17.
@@engineerable Thank you very much😊
lol, those carbon mesh filters slowly get grey with dust. you are right. there is no way the silly beads do anything substantial, I dare say, it is intended for them to sell more HEPA filters. thank you. I will be going with the 5300.
Hi, thank you so much for the video. Can you do the same with the 5300-? just to buy the additional carbon filter from the 5500? the 5500 is unfortunatelly not available in Europe (at least i did not find it) so I am looking for ways to upgrade the 5300. Thank you in advance.
I think I show in the video how the carbon filter barely fits in the 5300 due to different spacing on the cover.
Thanks for your detailed comparison. Based on your saying the carbon filter should really sit behind the HEPA filter I am going to get the Winix T810.
Thanks and yes, the carbon filter must be only exposed to dust free air after the HEPA filter to extend it's usable lifespan.
Hi Engineerable, can the unwoven carbon filters on the 5300 be washed or cleaned in any way to extend their life?
I wash them many times. It doesn't rejuvenate the carbon though, it just cleans and removes the accumulated dust.
@@engineerable Good to know, thanks! Just purchased a 5300 for my basement and am looking forward to putting it to work.
@@hmf33 I usually vacuum most of the dust off the surface, and then backwash it with a water spray nozzle.
@@engineerable Nice, I will try that. Thanks! Appreciate the work you've done here. This video ended up being the deciding factor for me on which air purifier to get 👍.
@@crazyhorse9556 The mesh prefilter makes the carbon pellet and HEPA filter last longer.
Do you know for sure that the 5300's carbon filter is better than the 5500's? I've seen tests (that measure VOCs in the air) that show that 5500's carbon filter removes more VOC's and doesn't need to be changed as often as the 5300's.
@@FrancoDFernando Pelletized carbon in the 5500 is superior to the mesh carbon in the 5300. It's the implementation which is incorrect. The pelletized carbon is not completely filling the filter cells, so a lot of bypass air. Also, the carbon filter should be behind the HEPA filter. Dust will clog the pelletized carbon filter quickly, so it will last longer if the air is pre filtered.
@@engineerable I've done a bit more research on this (because I'm considering buying between the 5500, 5300, and another air purifier), and there are cheaper charcoal filters you can buy for the 5500 that fill up the entire cell with charcoal. However, there were reviews saying that when they tried this filter, it blocked airflow. So perhaps they didn't fill it up for a reason. I'm still unsure if I should buy the 5500 or 5300
Would this work against smoke? Specifically in a basement cigar room?
It would make an improvement to an extent. A larger carbon filter like something used for grow rooms would probably be the best, but prefiltering that with a HEPA filter like this is important to extend the life of the carbon media.
@@engineerableGot it thanks. To be sure, I really enjoyed the video and am grateful for your response. Cheers!
Which one is better?
5300 is best filter for the money. If spending more doesn't matter, than get 5500 and add the non-woven carbon pre filter in front of the pellet filter like I show in the video.
@@engineerable Thanks , I bought a HATHASPACE hsp002 but probably get this for next room.
@@engineerablehy didn't Winix not do something like you are you suggesting? Why did you have to figure that out? lol Does that make sense?
And thank you for taking the time and sharing this with us!
@@crazyhorse9556 Most of the decisions get made by the bean counters.
So if you keep stacking them like wouldnt it slow the air being pulled in because its stacked and packed an burn up the motor? And My husband and I smoke and on three it cleared the room there was no lingering fog of smoke, I was very impressed. I have three cats two litter boxes back of my house smells like cats and dryer dust turned it on turbo took 20 mins and it was clear and fresh. I have not used the plasmawave just because of all the youtubes I have watched say the same and I dont understand it an if how it works would affect us. Thank you for the video Oh an mine is the 5500-2
Stacking the mesh carbon prefilter adds insignificant air resistance. Dust clogging the filters adds the most resistance. Keep your prefilters clean by vacuuming or washing them.
Definitely quit smoking and get rid of the disgusting cats.
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The thing is this: the air particles are attracted to the carbon, so it snatches them when they are close and they stick to the carbon. The designers of this were not dum dums when designing this.
The range from which the particles in the air get "snatched" is very small. Much smaller than the large spaces in the carbon filter. All real pelletized carbon filters pack the carbon in with no gaps, such that the air is forced to flow within small gaps between the pellets.
@@engineerable I just thought of something -- if they did put 10-12 more pellets in each Hexagon to fill it up then the HEPA Filter would not need to be changed out for maybe 2 years or maybe even 3, depending on how dirty the space is where you planted the WINIX. Can't get away from planned obsolescence, even with this kind of thing.
So, if buy a 5300-2 (which is cheaper than the 5500-2 at this moment), source the mesh pre-filter part for a 5500-2, buy the 'Filter H - 116130' to get the activated carbon filter, fit those all together then I would be all set to go and save a few bucks in the process, ja?
Edit: Or if I just cut down those raised ridges maybe that would do the trick?
No remote now
I was interested until I saw that this shitty company actually spent money, by engineering a different filter design, preventing the customer from using a cheaper filter. I will NOT support them now. As consumers, we need to start forcing these greedy companys to make quality cost effective products. Thanks for the review.