Panacur for Cancer in Dogs │ Dr. Nancy Reese Q&A
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- It sounds crazy to use Panacur for cancer in dogs. Doesn’t it? It’s a dewormer! It doesn’t cure cancer … does it? Or wait, does it make cancers grow bigger? #dogcancerconfusion! Time to ask Dr. Nancy Reese to do some research.
Here's our article on fenbendazole (Panacur) with all the details: www.dogcancer.com/articles/dr...
Sandy calls in to our Listener Line to ask her question. She wonders: is Panacur for cancer in dogs a good idea? She read about it online. And some folks seem to think it really helped their dog (and their own) cancer. And others think it just made things worse. So … what’s the deal with this dewormer, officially named fenbendazole, and cancer??
Dr. Nancy Reese, our chief medical editor, answers this most-excellent question. She’s interested in outside-the-box ideas, not just for her patients, but for her own family members. And what she finds out about Panacur and dog cancer is both fascinating and clarifying.
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It has been curing my wife's father's Stage4 lung cancer.
I have been giving my dog panacure c for 8 months now his big cancerous lumps went down in 2 weeks hes 20 lbs i give him a half a dose of the 10 mg pack 3 days in a row only once a day then 4 off then do it again for another week the lumps really went down now i give it to him every 2 months so far so good .Thank God.....oh i put it in his wet food...
That's wonderful good luck...I use it on my little old dog for his cancer 8 months now and he's doing great so far so good.
@@dorisbronson8274 How did you determine what dose to give your dog? I have a Yorkie that has cancer and I have been taking him to a holistic vet, but he isn't getting better. I know that Joe Tippins has a protocol that include vit e and curcumin for people. Maybe antioxidants and fenbendazole are needed together?
@@loralieisa Have you had a look at Dr Jones channel? He is a Canadian Holistic Vet. He's done some videos on treatments for cancer in dogs.
@@eliakimjosephsophia4542 Thanks-yes I have looked at Dr. Jones videos. I have been giving my Yorkie Panacur since about Nov 11. He also recommends melatonin and olive leaf so I will add those as well.
I treated my Border collie with pancreatic cancer for 4.5 years with panacur and pl100. I was told he would be dead in 2 months. He lived to be 14 years old.
Was that the only thing you used to treat him? Did he undergo chemotherapy or other types of treatment?
@@levity90 I also used pl100 which is hyper immune egg powder, I cooked him vegetable beef or chicken soup and top dressed with a raw egg. If his sugar dropped I used natural raw honey rubbing it on his gums. He had a good long life and I miss him. I’m currently dealing with another dog, Obadiah, my Aussie who was just diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. We don’t know where it originated. I’m doing a similar treatment protocol but also added lyposomal vit c given orally. It’s only been a month since Obadiah’s diagnosis.
@@user-bc7lb9kp7l keep us informed of his progress
Please tell me the dose for fenbendazole liquid. How many ml/kg for dog. Daily? For how days? Our dog has 6 lumps now. We bought liquid fenbendazole 100mg/ml 10%
@@carla89ccI’m doing 50mg per kilo of body weight, 3 days on and then 4 days off, for a month, then reassess. 1 ml of Panacur (10% liquid) is 100 mg (so it’s 0.5ml per kilo) so for my 4 kilo cat, I give him 2ml. Be aware that Panacur apparently tastes horrid!! If you look up Veterinary Secrets on youtube, you’ll see more info,
I had success with panacur and Ivermectin to treat my dogs cancer. Believe it or not I don't care. #### studies. Saved my best buddies.
what dosage did you use, any additional supplements used on the side, thx.
I used 1 gram packet in the high quality dog food for over 4 months Now I give it Twice a week. Good luck to you 👍🇺🇲😎 I'd used Ivermectin paste if I was short on Panacur.
@@liberty4347 Thx, just to get it clear, 1 gram of Pancur once a week in dog food. You can also use Thuja 10M to stop any regrowth once the cancer is gone. Dosage 1 drop twice a week directly on tongue. Thx again !!
Freedom Fighters, Could you please clarify the dosage you gave to you dog? Was it based on the weight? How often did you give it?
@@liberty4347 buddy did you give panacur daily or some other frequency, thx.
A lot of people can't afford chemo $14,000 which only gives the dog an extra year anyway. Sure I'll try dog dewormer!!!
If u need 100% approval then you are willing to wait a long time and by then cancer victim will be hopeless
Until pharma giants and the medical system can make profit off a disease which is declared uncurable, all evidence will be squashed, the money to conduct "enough studies" wouldn't come...
True for everything. People need to relearn to find their own inner authority or intuition and do their own research when needed.
Panacur with supplements have been keeping my 13 year old terminal dog alive and well for almost 4 years and she's still alive and well. After a CT scan and pathology report from biopsy, my American Bulldog was diagnosed with aggressive terminal metastatic anal gland cancer and was given 2 months to live. Two different chemo drugs were given to her to buy her more time but both failed. She needed 5 pharmaceutical drugs for the horrific side effects of Carboplatin and this drug almost killed her and Vet oncologist had to stop it. The next chemo drug didn't really work. I saw Dr. Jones' report about Panacur and started her on low-dose Panacur and switched to high-dose Panacur protocol with curcumin, krill oil, agal DHA, Dr. Jones Ultimate CBD Formula with .4% THC, and various other anti-cancer herbs and foods like cinnamon, dandalion root, and mushrooms like Turkey Tail, Reishi, Chaga, Maitake, Shitake, I'm Yunity. It's a daily fight. You can't take a day off from the anti-cancer protocol.
So glad to hear you've got such a great success with an incredibly comprehensive protocol! You can find all of the supplements you mentioned detailed in articles on our site -- so glad you found them! www.dogcancer.com/supplements/
Hi, my name is Stella. My dog got cancer, Lymphoma. My family and I we are facing one of the hardests moments. We dont know how to help my dog, the vet said two choices... chemo or put him to sleep. We don't want him to do chemo and of course we don't want to think about the second choice that vet gave us. Everybody deserve a chance to live better. The panacur that I found is panacur 250mg tablet (it says is for sheep etc)each tablet is 250mg. Could you please let me know how much (mg) you used in low- dose Panacur, after how long you switched to high- dose Panacur. My dog weight 24kg. The last few hours he has less appetite I am so desperate and worried, I don't know how to help him.
How is your furry buddy doing? Hope everything still keeps working fine to your dog. We people have only each other to help and support, few scientists are with us.
@@lela2090Hi, I just read this. I hope he’s still around. Dr Jones (veterinary secrets channel on you tube) he explains the panacur done on one or two of his videos on panacur. I give my dogs Paradigm from Dr Harveys (super green dehydrated food that even has bone broth buy at Amazon) and I cook my dogs meat (90% dog beef, or turkey, or white fish like talapia - no chicken cause my dog itches from being allergic to it when he eats it, and I’m stopping eggs for a bit to see if he’s not allergic to it, will text that later) and ot tells you the amount of the dehydrated food to put per dog’s case of life and weight, water, protein and oil amount. It’s a pricey dehydrated food but he gets full nutrition from it, full moisture, and I don’t have to worry when he eats it. Both my dogs love it. I hope you found your answers by now and if you see this I hope it helps when it comes to nutrition. I use CBD Dog Health’s green colored bottle cbd tincture and the Remedy cbd salve for keeping my dogs lump at bay. Hope the tincture is helping him internally. I used it on the previous dog. They had cancer a few years ago. I might have to get his long to remove wondering about panic care of myself. I really like CBD Dog Health’s products, but I also saw a video on Dr. Jones’ (Veterinary Secrets TH-cam) CBD tincture recently, and because that one has thc, I may purchase it. Maybe even his dog supplement. I am also looking into purchasing from Amazon, Dr. Harvey’s other supplements like this Day and night, sunrise something duo supplement, and this mushroom supplement to that seemed really good. They had one mushroom supplement for the liver that I used for my dog for a while, and there’s another new one for allergies that has a mushroom mix seems interesting too. Wishing the upmost luck to you and your dog and hope you get the answers and the help that you need. 🙏
Please tell me the low dose you used from Dr Jones? How many mg or ml/kg? We bought liquid fenbendazole 100mg/ml 10% but not sure what dose to give?
We're the mushrooms by pill please thank you very much
Waiting for definitive 'perfect' studies to happen seems unlikely. Who is going to fork out the huge cash needed for such studies? Certainly not big pHARMa. My 10 yo 9 lb. Chi-mix dog was just dx'd with hemangiosarcoma with tumor on spleen. Not operable. I'm willing to try fenben and pray for a miracle.
The studies are ongoing, for sure, because this is already a big pharma pharmaceutical :-) As our article points out, it operates just like many chemotherapy agents currently in use do. It's an untested chemotherapy agent, however, so it's important to remember that the high doses and long-term use required to treat cancer might result in the same severe side effects as other chemo agents that might be used. www.dogcancer.com/articles/drugs/fenbendazole-for-dogs/
I’m giving my cat Fenbenzole, Krill oil and CBD for cats, they removed the tumor but I’m doing this as a follow up.
What is the dose for an 8 1b cat and what form of Fenbendazole do you use?
Just wondering if panacur/ivermectin krill oil cbdthc oil 1:1ratio full indica RSO/FECO would help my 9 yo pit out recently diagnosed with mammary carcinoma?🙏
Very good chance it will. Side effects are minimal to none.
All very well getting a professional opinion butthe professional's first duty is to their professional reputation. Would i try it with a terminal dog? Of course. Because we can affofd to be wrong, same result as doing nothing because we don't have the benefit of scientific studies.
Panacur for an 18 lb cat with lymphoma.. I have found panacur in suspension, powder and paste. Which one am I wanting to use? What about Ivermectin. Is this the same as Panacur? What would the dosage be for 18lbs weight. Currently I started on Ivermectin, Krill oil, Vit E and 4-1 CBD.
@Hannelore 777 wished I knew what to do, can't find any dosing information. Like I mentioned, it comes in three different forms and that is even more confusing
@Hannelore 777 are you diluting it with liquid?
@Hannelore 777 I got Panacur powder from my vet today after explaining how and why I was doing this. I copied information and he read it all and was in agreement. He prescribed 1/2 teaspoon once a day which is 2.8 grams. What I don't know though is how long do we keep this up. Is it a week, month, year, forever?
@Hannelore 777 I am going in circles as well. Most of these vids don't offer enough details nor do they answer questions. Two thousand for a scan is more than half again what a same scan for a person would be, more like 800. I did not have a catscan done, we did blood work and X-ray. That was only 350. Ultrasound would be the next step if we think we would need it. My vet is not holistic however he is open minded, does prescribe CBD oil 4-1 and vitamins. Mostly though like all vets he goes to his pharmacy cupboard. When this cancer was diagnosed I started him on krill oil and ivermectin. Yes I though that was a high dose however in researching that dose is well tolerated. My vet does not have any experience in using this off label so I think he used the dosage as if he was treating paracites.
@Hannelore 777 Not good. I think we had a little bounce but then a dreadful relapse. The poor boy became anemic and I brought him out of that with Epogen injections. Then he stopped eating and was tossing up everything, even water. Have him on Metoclopramide and that has stabilized him. He is going down hill and there really is not much to do except keep him comfortable. Right now we are on the 4 days off panacur but I keep giving him Krill oil and CBD. If he makes it to Saturday then I will evaluate if we go back to panacur.
Where do you get Panacur?
Walmart online
Can get at your local feed store
What kind of ivermectin would you use?
Consult with your veterinarian to find out if ivermectin is a good fit for your dog and the right dose. Never use ivermectin formulated for livestock - it can be very difficult to dilute accurately, and has unfortunately led to many dogs dying of overdoses over the years.
You can buy Ivermectin from Pharmacys in India. Shipped to you within 2 weeks. I have a supply in case of infection in the household and used it for my cat. I used 6mg pills quartered so that was 1.5mg once a day for a 16lb cat.
All cancer is caused by parasites. What is the dose/kg given how often for liquid panacur/fenbendazole?
Hi! Here's our article on fenbendazole to take to your veterinarian to determine your dog's dose, if you want to try this experimental drug. www.dogcancer.com/articles/drugs/fenbendazole-for-dogs/
Cancer has many contributing causes, but a primary problem that can eventually lead to cancer developing is chronic inflammation, which often accompanies parasitic infections.
Should a dog with liver cancer get a multi vitamin
Hi Russ! If your dog is eating a complete and balanced diet, he/she should be fine. However, if you are having trouble getting your pup to eat, are feeding a homecooked diet that tends to vary in ingredients, or your dog has nutrient deficiencies, a multi vitamin might be in order. Let your vet know what you have been feeding your dog and what concerns you have, and they can advise you on what to do
Wow I wasn't expecting a reply, so Thank You for that. She still eats well, and I think it is good dog food ( Natural Balance ) and chicken breast that I cook for her, Some say the vitamin will feed the cancer, so that was why I asked. Again wasn't expecting a reply, so Thanks again.
I think that is the dewormer that I shall use after my puppy has stopped taking the vets medication for Fox Lungworm that is now cleared from his body.
Do you know if panacur works to kill worms in a humans body
@@crackedblackpepperandrocksalt I don't think there is any research on it. But one guy that was in the hospice with stage 4 cancer says it cured his cancer. He did have a vet has a friend that helped him with dosage etc His video is on YT. Has far has parasites in the human body, I recently did a cleanse with raw onions, raw ginger, raw garlic, parasites don't like those.
So it wasn't panacur treated your dogs lungworm
@@crackedblackpepperandrocksalt No, the vet put him on much stronger stuff that is toxic for dogs, so I supported his immune system and body with important nutrients for detoxing. It was resolved within a month when I got his stool test.
I see everybody talking about humans taking panacur for cancer. But nobody comments on worms being expelled or anything
What is panacur for what type of worm?
Round worms whips worm darn i forget the others but not tape .
According to MD Anderson fenben disrupts the microtubles cancer needs to get its sugar supply. Joe Tippens was in a clinical trial sponsored by MD Anderson and took fenbendazole on the sly while in the trial. He later told the oncologist who told him fenbendazole was known to have anticancer properties since the 1960s. $$$$$ is needed to conduct clinical trials and fenbendazole won't be patentable and so will not be pursued
@@dorisbronson8274 not true. Taenia spp is tapeworm it says it right on the pack
chemo on dog will give them max of 1 more year, thats not worth them being sick. Im going to try ivermectin
Hi Denee! When we use things like fenbendazole and ivermectin in our dogs, we assume that they don't have the same side effects as chemo drugs. But ANY drug used at high doses and for a long time can cause side effects ... including ivermectin, which is really hard on a dog. Here's our podcast episode about that. th-cam.com/video/rJ-Vb8ByMKY/w-d-xo.html
In what universe do you have "perfect studies" and drugs with "no side effects"? Sounds like this vet, like others in the medical professions, hold cheap, generic drugs to a ridiculously high standard compared to new high-dollar 'blockbuster' drugs.
The studies are important because this drug is currently only used in the short term, and its methods of action when it comes to cancer are identical to chemotherapy drugs currently in use that have major side effects. Using Panacur over the long term and at the high doses needed to treat cancer (not the short day or two required as an anti-parasitic) might be just as damaging as any other chemotherapy drug. Basically, it's a new chemotherapy drug. Here's a more recent discussion: www.dogcancer.com/podcast/drugs/repurposed-drugs-for-cancer-mast-cell-tumors-in-dogs-dr-lauren-barrow/ and here is our full-length article: www.dogcancer.com/articles/drugs/fenbendazole-for-dogs/
There are MANY chemotherapy drugs that are generic and have been used for decades. Fenbendazole's method of action is comparable to vinculin, vincristine, and paclitaxel, for example, all of which are generic drugs. The reason researchers are considering it for cancer at all is due to this very reason ... it's already doing what current drugs do, it's CHEAP, and already in circulation. Oncologists are always looking for better solutions, particularly ones that regular veterinarians can use with confidence.
Oki I have to tell you that in the age of shorts this outrageously long introduction is literally an insult to me
Things have certainly changed in the last few years, haven't they! This used to be an audio podcast only. We are currently re-cutting older episodes as videos to make them more palatable for our shorter attention spans -- thanks for proving our instincts correct!
@@DogCancer LOL! It is so true about our attention spans. People choose to be insulted, forget how important the content is...
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