I do not wish to start a flame war about this topic. I started using firearms when I was 16 yrs old, I am now 76 yrs old and a VietNam combat veteren. Over the yrs I loved and used the 45acp, I owned and used a S&W model 39 9mm in country. In my opinion it failed me, they were dead but I did not know it because they did not stop. We all knew they used handmade armor and drugs so I sent the 9mm home and used a 1911 for the rest of my tour-succesfully! I kept using 1911's until I had a stroke and could no longer work the action. I do not carry anymore and wanted something for home defence. After testing I purchased a S&W Governor, I have 45acp in it but my full load for home defence and safety I now use > a 410 shotshell in 000 Buck. This is just my opinion but I believe through experience that within my property this is ideal, damage with neighbor hood safety. TY for listening.
Keep in mind that in wartime, you were limited to full metal jackets. This is not the case for a civilian, loading for self-defense. If nothing else, this is a variable that should be taken into consideration.
Having shot a Gold Cup in competition in the past, I was lucky enough to come across a Para Ordnance P14 frame from a dealer. Ordered all of the internals from Brownells. Barrel is new old stock from GI .45’s but fitted to a Remington new old stock slide. To make matters more interesting I also purchased a COR BON .400 barrel which I fitted to the slide and was able to fit the bushing successfully to both barrels. Talk about stopping power, 14 in the mag and one in the pipe. If I don’t need sub sonic performance. I can easily change out the barrel to the .400. Same slide, same mag. Never had an issue with follow up shots and always kept it in condition one in the holster.
70 years experience. I'll be glad to take your word on the matter. I wish you would upload videos to your channel. I'm sure you have some stories. I'd love to hear them.
All I can say it this is a personal opinion I came to after I could no longer physically use a 1911 of any make or model. This choice is and was mine. I believe it to be correct and pray I never have to pull the trigger in anger. TY for your comments.
I was trained by Lt. Col. John Jeffery Cooper at Gunsite Academy in the 1970's I ,as did most students and instructors, used a 1911 in 45ACP. When trained on the proper techniques of using this platform and knowledge of the cartridge limitations and advantages, I still prefer the 45 ACP cartridge for my personal and home defense. While I love the 1911 pistol, I do now use a Glock model 30 for my carry gun and a model 21 for home defense. I became so used to having the thumb safety found on the 1911, I added one to my model 30 carry gun. Old habits die hard.
@@texasboy5117 Yes, and after WW2, the Col. was assigned the project to analyze all reports of personnel shot with a handgun, regardless of caliber or nation. Plotting all these data showed that a single torso hit was more likely to stop an assailant if the projectile was 0.39" Diameter or greater. Remember, the Geneva Convention required that all projectiles be full metal jacket. The Col. made the statement during the presentation I attended in 1975 that if the 38 special was really 0.38" Diameter, that would suffice but was lacking with it's diameter being 0.357". This is why the Col. came up with the 10 mm cartridge. Unfortunately, the company that was developing a cartridge with a higher than desirable velocity resulting in a propensity for the projectile to pass through its target. From this data came the 40 Cal cartridge. Since I am old, I will just stick with the 45 ACP of which I have fired many thousands of rounds.
There has been numerous studies on handguns both on police tests and in independent tests from 22LR's to 454 Casull and the "deadiest" one is the 357 Magnum with a 125 gr hollow point.
People think I am crazy for carrying a Ruger GP100 six round .357 Magnum with a 4.2 inch barrel., with the 125 gr hollow point. I have been shooting this caliber for a very long time and I can put the shots on center mass. I also practice with the rounds I carry for self defense. It might be expensive, but you will know exactly how they will perform. Practice rounds on the whole have less recoil. So you get used to that, but in a self defense situation with hotter rounds you are not prepared for what will happen. Practice with what you carry and you will know just how your handgun will perform, .357 Magnum or any other caliber. Hitting the target is key to stopping the threat!
@@rickjames2043 - Same here. Mine is a 6 inch barrel GP-100 loaded with Remington 125 grain Semi-Jacketed HP. This "Old School" round and similar SJHP rounds from Winchester and Federal are still the standard that other handgun rounds are compared against for one-shot stopping ability. In fact, there are cases where assailants who were shot in technically non-vital parts of their body (such as the thigh, lower hip, upper arm/shoulder area) later dying from shock and blood loss created by the explosive wounding effect of this round.
Look…I’m not trying to start a war, just eliminate a life endangering threat. I owned a S&W model 26 Highway Patrolman 6” barrel. There was nothing i could’t hit. But then it was bulky, and i didn’t want to kill the 3 innocent bystanders behind him, so i switched. Shot placement and shot follow-up reign supreme.
Proper shot placement is variable number one but there are others, in fact, a significant number of them. I want as many of those variables in my favor as possible.
I am an old man now (70), and a veteran of the US Military, (USN 74-84). We can go round and round about caliber and weapon type. That boils down to personal choice and nothing more. What I will say is this, there is far and away too much crap about magazine size out there. If you are in a situation where you need more that 5 or 7 rounds then you are in over your head. I believe we are in the "SPRAY AND PRAY" generation. As a young man, I was taught not to get into a situation I cant handle AND to sight / breath and squeeze. The best home defense weapon is a shotgun. The best self defense weapon is to not be where you should not be. 2 or 3 well placed rounds will contain a situation. If you need more than that then you are trying to be Rambo / are looking for trouble and will get what you deserve. The best weapon is the mind.
Most of my shooting experience came from Law Enforcement work in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. In that realm, you have an issued weapon and allowed ammo, and all the departments now work from the spray and pray POV. I, like you know that 3 to 7 shots should end all confrontations, normally, but being an LEO I know of actual gunfights where many hits, especially with 9mm's, didn't work. I used a 45acp for many years as I have heard of many reports where they would do the job, but I agree with you about no caliber is 100%, including the 12 gauge. I have autopsy photos of a meth addict who was shot 27+ times with 9mms (duty weapon) and 5 times with 00 Buck and 12 ga Slugs before he laid down and was quiet. So, carry what you are good with and know that absolutes in gunfights are only good until they aren't. Thanks for your reply, I appreciate you experiences and thoughts.
That has always been my belief and very accurate as well a 1ounce Foster slug is more than anything can handle ! I recently bought a new slug the " Gatekeeper " after watching it on the Y-Tube channel Taufleudermaus , probably misspelled ,but close enough to get you to their video , the Gatekeeper just takes the 12ga. slug to a different level if you want close in personal protection !
Any loaded weapon is a potential terminal instrument of death. I believe a 22 cal. can be just as deadly as any single projectile firearm in a personal defense scenario. I’ve only been shooting for 63 years, and in a PERSONAL DEFENSE situation, shot placement and follow-up shots reign supreme. In an undeclared war (Vietnam), all of this changes.
yes true people die from 22 but in a life or death encounter u want a rd that will stop the assailant quickly not living long enough to keep returning fire
I'd rather have a M1911 Colt 45 semi-automatic any day of the week. I am a former US Army soldier and have shot many weapons. I do not know why the military phased out or stop issuing the M1911 Colt 45 semi-automatic pistol, but I always liked it. It seems like everybody wants to go to 9 mm because it's in vogue or something, but just because something was made over a hundred years ago does not mean that it does not work or incapacitate someone. It's a slower round, but it has stopping power, and that's what you want.
I can't believe I watch this whole video. Look anything can be deadly when using a gun. Any caliber from 22lr to 10MM or 357. Placement is really the thing that needs to be taken in account here. Knowing your gun and practicing shooting it is key.
Absolutely. In the past week or so I saw an article about a Canadian First Nations grandmother who had a child to defend while dealing with a grizzly bear. She knew her weapon and she knew exactly what she was dealing with. She dropped it with a perfectly placed single head shot with a .22LR. She did not snap off a shot but waited until the bear was dangerously close to get her shot. Guns are dangerous but knowledge is lethal.
1)As Wyatt Earp once said, Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. 2)Amateurs practice until they always hit. Professionals practice until they never miss. Pick a gun you can accurately fire, and practice with it until you never miss.
I was involved in an on duty shooting in ‘74 w/my issued thirty-eight revolver, loaded w/158 lead round nose duty ammo, and it took several center mass hits to stop the suspect who was high on drugs. Stopping power is a myth, especially involving handguns. Carry a weapon you can shoot accurately under simulated combat conditions & practice often.
If that was a 45 ACP you were using the results would have been much more in your favor and that's a proven fact the philipine insurection was the reason for the 1911 45 cal being the greatest knock down pistol round ever.
I have owned , shot and tested many rounds. I have hunted for many years and seen what different rounds do to animals. I am also a combat veteran and went through the time period when they took away our 1911s and handed us the new 9mm sidearm. One thing that no one talks about is that many times the 45 ACP will tilt or roll inside the body after entering. This does a lot of damage and will still shatter bone on it's way in. I have seen the mess left inside when the different bullets and loads have done their job. My favorite round and ammo is the 357 mag 158 grain semi wadcutter and 125 grain hollow point. Those rounds do more damage and are more dangerous than any other handgun round. It is basically a revolver round but now there are autoloading handguns that use this round. In my opinion it is the most devasting controllable handgun round.
I own, shoot, and carry several different available calibers, and have several different handguns in each. More than any other, I carry .40 S&W 165gr +P HP in my Grand Power P40/10mm. That round paired with that pistol is roughly 20% more powerful than the 125gr .357mag defensive loads in a typical 3" carry revolver.
@@HarbingerOfDeath10-67 I own a Ruger GP100 with a 6 inch barrel. I load it with hardcast rounds and have taken large game with it. The factory rounds of today are loaded much lighter than what the 357 mag used to be loaded to in the past. Most people have never experienced the true potential of the round. Yes it and the 10mm are about equal but the difference is small and comes down to the length of the barrel and the load. I have an Uncle who used to be a Federal Marshall and carried a 4 inch S&W 357 as a back up in a shoulder holster. Many times in the past it saved his life in dealing with drugged up attackers who were taking rounds and still coming. He told me that 5 times in 35 years he might not have gone home to his family. He carried both hollow points and semi wadcutters alternating in his backup pistol. They did not have 10mm in the past. They did have 9mm and also a shotgun. Some guys were authorized and carried a 1911. He told me that the 357 was devastating on the human body and that he never saw someone get back up after being put down with it. Luckily I have never been in his situation but I was in the Military and our weapons were different. We don't rely on handguns in combat and are not standing 12 feet to 15 yards from someone unless clearing a building. Then I still would not choose a handgun if possible. It would be my last thought. I have reloaded 357 mag rounds that might change your mind about the differences between 357 and 10 mm. I would use either or equally as a hunting round for big game. I prefer my single stack 45 acp for concealed carry, it disappears on my body even with a 10 round load with a slightly extended Mag. I never feel under gunned. My alternate carry is a 9mm XDS single stack. It also disappears on me no matter what I am wearing. I can keep all rounds in a tight group with follow up shots. A 10 mm is slower to get back on target due to recoil.
I'm reminded of an old saying we used to say "You can't miss fast enough". Meaning you can't make up for in stopping power what you lose in ability to hit your target effectively. If in the time it takes me to land an effectively placed shot on target I can get two rounds there with something else, I'm probably a bit better off with the one I can hit with quicker. That doesn't mean "spray and pray" but just the opposite. I have seen so many of these real world shootings where so many rounds were fired before anyone was hit. Maybe they couldn't hit their target with any caliber, but whatever enables them to do so is the right choice even if that means getting a big drop in muzzle energy. The FBI adopted the 10mm and VERY quickly dropped that for the .40 S&W, 9mm, .45 ACP, .357, essentially went back to everything they did before. In fact this is how we got the .40 S&W in the first place and even that was too hard to shoot for many of their people.
I agree with most of you guys. After 51 years in law enforcement I think I have some valuable knowledge and experience. I carried a Python for 35 years. Why , because I was very good with it and close range is does a fantastic job with the the right bullet! I won many police awards one of DE in my second Accademy. Today most experienced officers choose the 45 with many new excellent loads and wound penetrating bullet designs. As far a recoil and second shot picture, this is in my opinion the most import. In our world we practice point and shoot from the draw. Hit by a 45 a close range by a two shot double or even one shot tap or even a single shot, if needed you will then have the time to pinpoint your next if needed! More than likely the first hit will disable and take most targets down. The first one or two rounds are almost always the most important. I think this guy posting is just a very inexperienced individual out of his area of expertise. I do carry a 1911 38 super gov mod off duty for weight and size reasons. My SS 1911 gets a bit heavy after a while with a smaller rig to carry all the time!
Hahahahaha! I knew when I seen the title exactly what it was going to be about. Let’s just beat up on every pistol cal but the 9! I carried one off and on for 18 years and qualified with it also for that many years while in the Marine’s! It was my TO weapon for many years until the Beretta came on the scene. Being effective with anything means you have to become proficient with it. That means going to the range and some ranges offer somewhat combat shooting were one engages multiple targets at different yardage.
By 5:04 I felt like falling asleep. The Marines trained me to shoot twice (double tap) at the center of mass. You'll have a 70% chance of one hit. Practice, practice practice. If you don't hit the point of aim, it really does not matter what size bullet you are throwing down range. As for people 'dumping the mag' at a threat, just proves some people should not be handling guns. Double tap and assess the environment for additional threats. Any cop firing more than two rounds at a time, should not be a cop.
Like most people have noticed- this video is junk AI BS. You do what works for you. I LOVED my Beretta 92FS for a very long time. I bought a Taurus GX4 a few years ago and I love it now. It makes the Beretta feel like it weighs 80 pounds. I've shot the GX4 a couple dozen times at the range and once you get used to not having your non-shooting thumb away from the back of the slide (If you know, you KNOW lol), it shoots very true. Like most comments mention- it doesn't matter what you are shooting if you don't hit your target! Get something that you are comfortable handling and Practice, Practice, and Practice some more.
My dad taught me back in the early 90's that 9mm is cheap to shoot/practice with, has enough knockdown power you can carry more rounds & faster follow-up shots my dad knew this way back then, yeah bullet technology wasn't that good but they still made some badass Hydra-shok jhp.. I remember when everybody got on the .40 cal bandwagon I stuck with 9 mm come full circle I'm glad I kept all my guns thruout the years 💪👌💯
Well done for an A.I. presentation. Good info, too!🙂 The only fatality shooting Ive been personally aware of took two 9mm rounds.. the first a JHP & 2nd a FMJ. The first a handloaded 115gr round by the shooter, the second a mil-surp 115gr of unknown province. Both were CoM, neither exiting. As I understand the situation, the assailant took the first round (115 JHP) in the chest and kept coming. The second, (115 FMJ) hit the chest area, didnt exit, and dropped the assailant drt. The shooter made a habit of loading the second round as FMJ for penetration in case the shootee was taking cover or in an automobile. Years of shooting experience were behind the individual in question, leading him to that decision.
Interesting how they mentioned the 10mm but avoided discussing it. They also seem to have never heard of the 357 magnum or 41 magnum. This video screams that the author has either a law enforcement or military background and really only knows what is in their holster.
Shot placement is all that matters you put a 22 LR through the brain or heart the target will go down. The 40 cal and 45 have not gone by the wayside. Who ever did this video was borderline on information i knew that when the opening photo had primers in the bullet 😂
The deadliest caliber is based solely in the training of the individual using the weapon. For decades Russian KGB would use 22 LR for up close assassinations.
@@michaelboss7321 What's to guarantee that whoever wrote and provided the script isn't as half-assed as the reader ? The only clue we viewers have to that question is the reader. So its strike one and "out" as the only solution ? In case you are just guessing, that is where I am at right now.
@@Oldclimber1 No guarantee at all. Just because a TH-camr claims to be an expert doesn't mean they're an expert, it only means they claim to be an expert. Some on here could be good advice and some is worthless. A person has to seek out experts to really learn.
@@michaelboss7321 Do you mean like the "experts" who predicted a Harris presidency in November of 2024 ? That is a case in point for having no tolerance for something designed to keep "you" running in circles.
you asked what's the best so i felt obligated to answer, a custom made 357 die cast aluminum 4 an 3 quarter inch barrel. The ammo already deadly - but make it hollow points for the best of both worlds, this round will send someone flying in the opposite direction with a lot of healing to do after a miracle took place in order to survive! the gun will always go bang when you pull (revolver) does not need to be left half empty to preserve magazine spring, also does not need maintenance due to the aluminum not rusting. The barrel length is perfect for control being less than 6 inches, yet still plenty long enough for velocity, accuracy, power etc.. only weakness is only 6 rounds - so get a few speed loaders or just get 2 guns, all this along with a ton of practice is a deadly plan. 2nd plan is simple - 2 - 9mms with special ammo and again a ton of practice not just shots down range, but how to wear it, pull it, get to it quick and routine like' so they become like a part of you - all these intangibles is what makes a particular gun deadliest for that person. This is an extremely underrated concept... like in the movie taxi driver - in real life all that practice and getting comfortable with your weapons is a real deal deadly dynamic!!!
At 70+ years, and having been involved in shootings of humans, 2 on a more personal level, I say your theorizing of "the magic nine expanding bullet" is just so much bullet sheit! You know what happens in the majority of hollow point (expanding) bullets is? Right! Nothing. The hollow point clogs with closing and becomes a fast noise zipping into or through a target! I have carried and studied almost every caliber, from .22 LR up to and including the .44 Magnum but most often at .44 Special + P pressures and velocities.. I have carried EVERY description of bullet and bullet material. FOR MANY YEARS i CARRIED A .45 ACP ON AND OFF DUTY WITH THE BEST EXPANDING OR FRANGIBLE LOADS, but due to a mild stroke and some loss of strength in my left hand I have gone back to a .44 caliber revolver. It is always loaded with one of three types of bullets. The new Hornady 165 grn Critical defense, but I find it falls a little short on penetration, but expands well EVERY TIME! Next I carry .44 special +P HBWC reversed in the case at about 900-950 fps. The two personal examples I spoke of were shot with .38 Special +P HBWC, loaded backwards, and resulted in two one shot stops! BAM! Bam! Down and out! One dying in about 2 minutes from a severed aorta, the second dropped like hit by a 2x4 and dying the following morning due to the liver destroyed by the violently expanding bullet. I also carry a back up Charter Arms in my right front pocket holster, loaded with reversed or forward facing wad cutters at 750-800FPS which barrier and ballistic gel penetrate very nicely. This complements my S&W Model 69 on the right hip and full of HBWC's. The HP 9's skid off of car bodies, angular walls, and skuuls as well, just like round nosed .38 bullets did back when that was the duty round. Just ask Jim Cirillo of NYPD Stake Out Squad fame. Look him up, it will do you much good. Precision shooting under stress beats the heck out of spray and pray high capacity 9's.
In the seventies, Charter Arms, we're a favorite carry gun, and they still are. I don't believe in one shot stops, unless there is major organ damage, or head shots. The famous Jim Cirrillo as mentioned by another, is the authority on handgun power, we are not talking rifles,as almost any level two, unless plates are employed can be defeated by a rifle round, even 44 mag can be stopped with the right vest on. Riles too, but the plates are needed, don't know the levels anymore.
Hollow points make a difference, but they are not magic. The human body is capable of more then we think. Flesh wounds from a nine, were common to my girlfriend a emergency nurse, but not one .45 wound on four years on her shift, make of it what you will.
Agree on what ever you can shoot the best, just be sure of the ammo you use. 9mm ammo on a full size duty pistol will act differently in a 3 inch sub compact. Do your homework on what is the best ammo for the caliber you are shooting in the sizes of gun you are using!
While getting my degree college for my degree in Criminal Justice, we had a case in study where a suspect was shot 37 times with a 9mm before he dropped. Sixteen rounds were fatal, but in reality the 9mm did not give the same take down power as my 45.
I could have said all this in 2 minutes! Brevity is the key to success! At least you showed a great ammo, Hornady! That said, I carry 2 Glocks for maximum security, a 26 and 27.
Like any gun, a 6.5 creedmore is a good gun but everywhere it shines I can tell you of a gun caliber that's better, but that gun does work and when my brother n law is eating supper I can tell him it's junk, they all work and work good, I don't want to get shot with a 22lr, how about you
@stevemabry6718 It depends on what distance they shoot from 😉. the absolute best weapons and caliber are the ones you use and train with and that you know your own limitations.
@dougthornton6884 The most important thing is that you practice and enjoy using your tools.There are a lot of tools that just stay in the cupboard just because you quickly find a few favorites 😉👍.
One last point before I leave, I've never seen a 9 mm outperformed a 40 s&w to get similar results to 9 mm had to go plus p but if more rounds is what you need because you can't shoot I respect your choice
I don't know allot about guns or the ammunition. I was given a .22 caliber revolver about 30 years ago for protection. I was told to keep 3 solid bulllits for the first 3 shots and 3 hollow point bullits in it for the last 3 shots. I was also told it was to be used for protection of a person breaking into my home with intent of harming my family or myself. The idea was if the first 3 didn't stop an intruder, the last 3 hollow points would. I was also advised to take the revolver to a practice range to learn how to use it. To my surprise I was a pretty good aim at 20 to 30 yards. If someone was inside your home, that's more than close enough. I mounted the holster to my bed rail for a quick retrieval of the gun just in case of an intruder. The gun has remained in that position for the last 7 or 8 years. I would never want to take another human life unless it was clear self defense of myself or family. I really don't care much for guns, but in this day and age with so many druggies and crazies running loose, I have finally convinced myself a gun is good for protection only!!! . .
Back in the day when the 9 mm became very popular, the 80’s Long Beach California PD Ballistic Team told me that a .380 (9 mm short) did more damage because it tumbled in flight. Nasty when hit by one.
In the final analysis, marksmanship wins the day! It doesn't matter how big or powerful your ammo is, if you can't hit your target, you've already lost. All the hype about which is the best defensive ammo is just blather! A show of hands here, how many people would take a .22LR to the face and continue the attack? High on drugs or religious "psycho-ness" is a whole different story and it doesn't matter what you carry. IMHO, if you spend more time on the range than you do looking at "terminal ballistics charts", you'll do just fine!
I wold also like to add that, even though my father was survivor of D-Day, and being a survivor of the Korean War, he did not waste his time trying to inculcate this kind of information to me.
Your opinion is nonsense.. You have obviously never engaged a live target.. A .45 ACP at normal pistol range is 99.999 effective, so is the old .45 Colt. So .454 Casull and the .44 magnum is 100% effective @ normal pistol range. It's Mass x velocity plus bullet placement.
I have read articles saying it is not uncommon for people shot with a 9 mm to not realize they were shot until they noticed they were bleeding. As far as the Colt 45, I suppose it's possible but to my knowledge no one has ever been hit by one without knowing it.
It would be interesting to listen to a study on a caliber like the 5.7x28. I recently purchased a S&W M&P. It holds 22 rounds and has a high velocity. The recoil is very light and can be easily held on target for a double tap. The high velocity allows it to penetrate body armor. The light projectile, once penetrated, will tumble and/or spall. It will hurt your feelings, at the very least.
Liberty Ammo Civil Defense 10mm and made in Texas Weight: 60gr Velocity: 2,400 FPS Kinetic Energy: 780 FPE Accuracy: < 1” @ 25 Meters Rounds: 20 per box Terminal Effect: 4 -1/2” W x 12” D Compared To Other Top Self-Defense Rounds - 8 to 17% less felt recoil - 106 to 133% more velocity - 45 to 84% more kinetic energy - Reduced over-penetration - More stopping power This stuff works, and less recoil in my 10mm, and is easy to cycle as my 40 S&W
Even this video is full of myths. You know the narrator hasn't got a clue when he says the .454 Castle. He corrected himself, but still... Yes, a modern 9mm can be a Man Stopper with good shot placement, and the additional capacity allows for Double-Taps. However it's a poor choice for bear. You need to move up to a 10mm, and Hard Cast bullets. Penetration is more necessary over expansion.
This is interesting but as I have understood it what kills is the Shock that the person goes into from being shot and the best for that is a combination of velocity and impact from the bullet.
What abou barrel lenth? The longer barrel means bigger speed for the bullet,therefore you have deeper penetration.It's not for concealment of course,but when it comes to get the job done-it's worth it.
How to cut this entire video's info down to a couple of seconds? "There is no perfect caliber of bullet, because shot placement wins the fight." 'Nuff said.
So according to the FBI the most deadly caliber is .22LR. It is involved in the most fatal shootings, most of which are self delete. It kind of illustrates that even when you have a hard definition of "deadliest caliber" (something this vid struggled with.) it can still be misleading.
100 + years ago the US invaded the Philippines. Wanted to steal the tropical hardwoods there, i suppose. some hillmen called Moros didn't care for the invaders, and had a habit of charging out of the brush and beheading the officer leading the Us Marine patrol. (Taking down the enemy chief was how you won in their wars) .38 revolvers did not stop them. So the Us went to .45's, which apparently did stop them. Now the .38's used a soft lead bullet, heavier and slower then a modern 9mm round. I don't know how much difference that makes.
The king of cavitation is the .556 nato. Read about the temporary wound channel, cavitation at 2800 ft per second. From a 16 inch barrel, 3250 fps, more than needed for mass cavitation. .55 grain or 62 grain, best for cavitation, 55 grain, fmj tumbles, or spins, causing irreparable damage to major organs.
I started watching this video knowing after decades of experience that shot placement is the most important aspect.... just took them to the 14:20 mark to mention that😕..... practice, practice, practice people!!!!
The narrator keeps saying the same thing over and over again. I suspect he's trying to keep viewers hooked for the 15 minutes he need for his advertiser's.
I'm a .45 guy. I have small hands but strong so recoil, I like it! 👍 Don't like double stack ers. That removes tge more rounds for me. So yes size matters. All the mentioning if the science making 9s so much better . I wasn't aware science and physics was only effective on 9mm bullets. LOL the same wonderfully advances can't apply to bigger rounds?
Another 9 mm is the Be all round in the world video search TH-cam there are plenty of videos where store owners defend themselves with 9 mm and the criminal runs out of the store after being shot two or three times plenty of those videos. Show the criminal coming back to the store and shooting the store owner 9 mm is not the B all cartridge 357 magnum would be a better choice and you don’t need to worry about recoil after the first shot, if you have something that will put them down in one shot magazine dump is not the answer.
Shocking truth about the deadliest bullet....bah bah bah. This video proves everyone has their own opinion. Carried a 1911 in the military, it always saved the day, and I'll not depart from it.
Let's not forget the 1986 FBI shoot out in Miami, where two agents died. This was blamed on the fact that the agents were using 9mm and .38 spl, and didn't have sufficient stopping power. A fact the FBI seems to have forgotten.
I do not wish to start a flame war about this topic. I started using firearms when I was 16 yrs old, I am now 76 yrs old and a VietNam combat veteren. Over the yrs I loved and used the 45acp, I owned and used a S&W model 39 9mm in country. In my opinion it failed me, they were dead but I did not know it because they did not stop. We all knew they used handmade armor and drugs so I sent the 9mm home and used a 1911 for the rest of my tour-succesfully! I kept using 1911's until I had a stroke and could no longer work the action. I do not carry anymore and wanted something for home defence. After testing I purchased a S&W Governor, I have 45acp in it but my full load for home defence and safety I now use > a 410 shotshell in 000 Buck. This is just my opinion but I believe through experience that within my property this is ideal, damage with neighbor hood safety. TY for listening.
Keep in mind that in wartime, you were limited to full metal jackets. This is not the case for a civilian, loading for self-defense. If nothing else, this is a variable that should be taken into consideration.
Having shot a Gold Cup in competition in the past, I was lucky enough to come across a Para Ordnance P14 frame from a dealer. Ordered all of the internals from Brownells. Barrel is new old stock from GI .45’s but fitted to a Remington new old stock slide. To make matters more interesting I also purchased a COR BON .400 barrel which I fitted to the slide and was able to fit the bushing successfully to both barrels. Talk about stopping power, 14 in the mag and one in the pipe. If I don’t need sub sonic performance. I can easily change out the barrel to the .400. Same slide, same mag. Never had an issue with follow up shots and always kept it in condition one in the holster.
70 years experience. I'll be glad to take your word on the matter. I wish you would upload videos to your channel. I'm sure you have some stories. I'd love to hear them.
Thank you for sharing, and would take your advice anytime sir, cheers 🍻 friend
All I can say it this is a personal opinion I came to after I could no longer physically use a 1911 of any make or model. This choice is and was mine. I believe it to be correct and pray I never have to pull the trigger in anger. TY for your comments.
I was trained by Lt. Col. John Jeffery Cooper at Gunsite Academy in the 1970's I ,as did most students and instructors, used a 1911 in 45ACP. When trained on the proper techniques of using this platform and knowledge of the cartridge limitations and advantages, I still prefer the 45 ACP cartridge for my personal and home defense. While I love the 1911 pistol, I do now use a Glock model 30 for my carry gun and a model 21 for home defense. I became so used to having the thumb safety found on the 1911, I added one to my model 30 carry gun. Old habits die hard.
Cambiastes por un jabalí de 13 colmillos y una picante mamba negra de 10 picaduras ❤
Formidables pistolas!
Calibre inmortal!...✌️
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in about 30 years. He was huge in the 1970’s as I remember.
S&W's M&P in .45 has a factory thumb safety.
Brings back memories, that is a name I have not heard in decades!
@@texasboy5117 Yes, and after WW2, the Col. was assigned the project to analyze all reports of personnel shot with a handgun, regardless of caliber or nation. Plotting all these data showed that a single torso hit was more likely to stop an assailant if the projectile was 0.39" Diameter or greater. Remember, the Geneva Convention required that all projectiles be full metal jacket. The Col. made the statement during the presentation I attended in 1975 that if the 38 special was really 0.38" Diameter, that would suffice but was lacking with it's diameter being 0.357". This is why the Col. came up with the 10 mm cartridge. Unfortunately, the company that was developing a cartridge with a higher than desirable velocity resulting in a propensity for the projectile to pass through its target. From this data came the 40 Cal cartridge. Since I am old, I will just stick with the 45 ACP of which I have fired many thousands of rounds.
It doesn't matter what caliber, if you miss.
I never miss
The truth.
or if placement is terrible….
True s 22 stinger in the eye ball is more deadly than a miss . accuracy is first concern.
Agreed, it’s mostly placement. Great comment
There has been numerous studies on handguns both on police tests and in independent tests from 22LR's to 454 Casull and the "deadiest" one is the 357 Magnum with a 125 gr hollow point.
Your absolutely correct. I had a old police text book that showed exactly that. It had a 97% one shot stop.record. 44 magnum was only 86%
People think I am crazy for carrying a Ruger GP100 six round .357 Magnum with a 4.2 inch barrel., with the 125 gr hollow point. I have been shooting this caliber for a very long time and I can put the shots on center mass. I also practice with the rounds I carry for self defense. It might be expensive, but you will know exactly how they will perform. Practice rounds on the whole have less recoil. So you get used to that, but in a self defense situation with hotter rounds you are not prepared for what will happen. Practice with what you carry and you will know just how your handgun will perform, .357 Magnum or any other caliber. Hitting the target is key to stopping the threat!
No.
@@rickjames2043 - Same here. Mine is a 6 inch barrel GP-100 loaded with Remington 125 grain Semi-Jacketed HP. This "Old School" round and similar SJHP rounds from Winchester and Federal are still the standard that other handgun rounds are compared against for one-shot stopping ability. In fact, there are cases where assailants who were shot in technically non-vital parts of their body (such as the thigh, lower hip, upper arm/shoulder area) later dying from shock and blood loss created by the explosive wounding effect of this round.
Look…I’m not trying to start a war, just eliminate a life endangering threat. I owned a S&W model 26 Highway Patrolman 6” barrel. There was nothing i could’t hit. But then it was bulky, and i didn’t want to kill the 3 innocent bystanders behind him, so i switched. Shot placement and shot follow-up reign supreme.
Hit what you are shooting at makes a deadly gun and bullet .
Right, proper placement.
That is what I call ‘gun control”!
Proper shot placement is variable number one but there are others, in fact, a significant number of them. I want as many of those variables in my favor as possible.
Bullet Placement . Nothing new
Exactly !!!
Somewhat informative, very repetitive, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING shocking here. Clickbait.
yep.. The conclusion is NOTHING, as in nothing new. 15 minutes of NOTHING.
BULLSHIT ... ! 💩
Thank you!
I slapped the don't recommend button seconds after reading this
The answer is......what you have in your hand when SHTF
Yay! We ❤ click bait
I am an old man now (70), and a veteran of the US Military, (USN 74-84). We can go round and round about caliber and weapon type. That boils down to personal choice and nothing more. What I will say is this, there is far and away too much crap about magazine size out there. If you are in a situation where you need more that 5 or 7 rounds then you are in over your head. I believe we are in the "SPRAY AND PRAY" generation. As a young man, I was taught not to get into a situation I cant handle AND to sight / breath and squeeze. The best home defense weapon is a shotgun. The best self defense weapon is to not be where you should not be. 2 or 3 well placed rounds will contain a situation. If you need more than that then you are trying to be Rambo / are looking for trouble and will get what you deserve. The best weapon is the mind.
You don't know what old is yet, young man and hopefully I don't either; I'm 80
Amen!
Most of my shooting experience came from Law Enforcement work in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. In that realm, you have an issued weapon and allowed ammo, and all the departments now work from the spray and pray POV. I, like you know that 3 to 7 shots should end all confrontations, normally, but being an LEO I know of actual gunfights where many hits, especially with 9mm's, didn't work. I used a 45acp for many years as I have heard of many reports where they would do the job, but I agree with you about no caliber is 100%, including the 12 gauge. I have autopsy photos of a meth addict who was shot 27+ times with 9mms (duty weapon) and 5 times with 00 Buck and 12 ga Slugs before he laid down and was quiet. So, carry what you are good with and know that absolutes in gunfights are only good until they aren't. Thanks for your reply, I appreciate you experiences and thoughts.
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say this entire video has been AI generated!
Am I right?!
Possible...but very low level AI...lol
Yes
A 12 Guage slug will get the attention of most.😆
Very true. But their attention span is short-lived.
That has always been my belief and very accurate as well a 1ounce Foster slug is more than anything can handle ! I recently bought a new slug the " Gatekeeper " after watching it on the Y-Tube channel Taufleudermaus , probably misspelled ,but close enough to get you to their video , the Gatekeeper just takes the 12ga. slug to a different level if you want close in personal protection !
Centre of Mass LOL that will make their eyes bug out
yup my husband said on a burglur alarm instead of bells and buzzing going off they should make the sound of a 12 guage being racked
@@lindarock4128 A new born baby knows that sound!
Any loaded weapon is a potential terminal instrument of death. I believe a 22 cal. can be just as deadly as any single projectile firearm in a personal defense scenario. I’ve only been shooting for 63 years, and in a PERSONAL DEFENSE situation, shot placement and follow-up shots reign supreme. In an undeclared war (Vietnam), all of this changes.
yes true people die from 22 but in a life or death encounter u want a rd that will stop the assailant quickly not living long enough to keep returning fire
I liked what one old timer said: "I've never known anyone to get shot with a .22 and not have to go to the hospital."
I'd rather have a M1911 Colt 45 semi-automatic any day of the week. I am a former US Army soldier and have shot many weapons. I do not know why the military phased out or stop issuing the M1911 Colt 45 semi-automatic pistol, but I always liked it. It seems like everybody wants to go to 9 mm because it's in vogue or something, but just because something was made over a hundred years ago does not mean that it does not work or incapacitate someone. It's a slower round, but it has stopping power, and that's what you want.
It's good to know that all copper bullets are eco-friendly because that is a top priority to consider when you're in the middle of a gunfight.
Why so triggered? 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I'm not going to be thinking much about the environment when I'm fighting for my life
Hahaha
It's true, it should be illegal for any criminal to use anything besides compost rounds
I can't believe I watch this whole video. Look anything can be deadly when using a gun. Any caliber from 22lr to 10MM or 357. Placement is really the thing that needs to be taken in account here. Knowing your gun and practicing shooting it is key.
Absolutely. In the past week or so I saw an article about a Canadian First Nations grandmother who had a child to defend while dealing with a grizzly bear. She knew her weapon and she knew exactly what she was dealing with.
She dropped it with a perfectly placed single head shot with a .22LR. She did not snap off a shot but waited until the bear was dangerously close to get her shot. Guns are dangerous but knowledge is lethal.
YES, placement is everything.
@@deltavee2
Yes, I saw that video a couple of days ago.
@@1stREMESquaddie
REME? I doff my hat.
You gentlemen are exceptional
true but would u want a 45 or a 22 to try and immediately stop a treat
A hard hit is better than a loud miss.
1)As Wyatt Earp once said, Fast is fine, but accuracy is final.
2)Amateurs practice until they always hit. Professionals practice until they never miss.
Pick a gun you can accurately fire, and practice with it until you never miss.
The average fire fight will be within 7 to 10 feet
and 3-5 shots.
I was involved in an on duty shooting in ‘74 w/my issued thirty-eight revolver, loaded w/158 lead round nose duty ammo, and it took several center mass hits to stop the suspect who was high on drugs. Stopping power is a myth, especially involving handguns. Carry a weapon you can shoot accurately under simulated combat conditions & practice often.
If that was a 45 ACP you were using the results would have been much more in your favor and that's a proven fact the philipine insurection was the reason for the 1911 45 cal being the greatest knock down pistol round ever.
I have owned , shot and tested many rounds. I have hunted for many years and seen what different rounds do to animals. I am also a combat veteran and went through the time period when they took away our 1911s and handed us the new 9mm sidearm.
One thing that no one talks about is that many times the 45 ACP will tilt or roll inside the body after entering. This does a lot of damage and will still shatter bone on it's way in.
I have seen the mess left inside when the different bullets and loads have done their job.
My favorite round and ammo is the 357 mag 158 grain semi wadcutter and 125 grain hollow point. Those rounds do more damage and are more dangerous than any other handgun round.
It is basically a revolver round but now there are autoloading handguns that use this round.
In my opinion it is the most devasting controllable handgun round.
I own, shoot, and carry several different available calibers, and have several different handguns in each. More than any other, I carry .40 S&W 165gr +P HP in my Grand Power P40/10mm. That round paired with that pistol is roughly 20% more powerful than the 125gr .357mag defensive loads in a typical 3" carry revolver.
@@HarbingerOfDeath10-67 I own a Ruger GP100 with a 6 inch barrel. I load it with hardcast rounds and have taken large game with it.
The factory rounds of today are loaded much lighter than what the 357 mag used to be loaded to in the past. Most people have never experienced the true potential of the round. Yes it and the 10mm are about equal but the difference is small and comes down to the length of the barrel and the load.
I have an Uncle who used to be a Federal Marshall and carried a 4 inch S&W 357 as a back up in a shoulder holster.
Many times in the past it saved his life in dealing with drugged up attackers who were taking rounds and still coming.
He told me that 5 times in 35 years he might not have gone home to his family.
He carried both hollow points and semi wadcutters alternating in his backup pistol.
They did not have 10mm in the past. They did have 9mm and also a shotgun. Some guys were authorized and carried a 1911.
He told me that the 357 was devastating on the human body and that he never saw someone get back up after being put down with it.
Luckily I have never been in his situation but I was in the Military and our weapons were different. We don't rely on handguns in combat and are not standing 12 feet to 15 yards from someone unless clearing a building. Then I still would not choose a handgun if possible. It would be my last thought.
I have reloaded 357 mag rounds that might change your mind about the differences between 357 and 10 mm. I would use either or equally as a hunting round for big game. I prefer my single stack 45 acp for concealed carry, it disappears on my body even with a 10 round load with a slightly extended Mag.
I never feel under gunned. My alternate carry is a 9mm XDS single stack. It also disappears on me no matter what I am wearing. I can keep all rounds in a tight group with follow up shots. A 10 mm is slower to get back on target due to recoil.
Just like in Real Estate, "location, location, location". Where, or if, you hit is important.
Why did you immediately attack the 45 automatic and then immediately prays for 9 mm?
causehe doesnt have a clue
I'm reminded of an old saying we used to say "You can't miss fast enough". Meaning you can't make up for in stopping power what you lose in ability to hit your target effectively. If in the time it takes me to land an effectively placed shot on target I can get two rounds there with something else, I'm probably a bit better off with the one I can hit with quicker. That doesn't mean "spray and pray" but just the opposite. I have seen so many of these real world shootings where so many rounds were fired before anyone was hit. Maybe they couldn't hit their target with any caliber, but whatever enables them to do so is the right choice even if that means getting a big drop in muzzle energy. The FBI adopted the 10mm and VERY quickly dropped that for the .40 S&W, 9mm, .45 ACP, .357, essentially went back to everything they did before. In fact this is how we got the .40 S&W in the first place and even that was too hard to shoot for many of their people.
husbands grandpa was an old lawman he used to always say draw fast and shoot slow
Depends on the shooter, it’s kinda like comparing an ice pic to a screwdriver.
Phillips or Straight Blade?
Well I nodded off long before the end - did I miss anything ?
no
In my opinion, 22. It's the pistol caliber that has killed most people in history.
I agree with most of you guys. After 51 years in law enforcement I think I have some valuable knowledge and experience. I carried a Python for 35 years. Why , because I was very good with it and close range is does a fantastic job with the the right bullet! I won many police awards one of DE in my second Accademy. Today most experienced officers choose the 45 with many new excellent loads and wound penetrating bullet designs. As far a recoil and second shot picture, this is in my opinion the most import. In our world we practice point and shoot from the draw. Hit by a 45 a close range by a two shot double or even one shot tap or even a single shot, if needed you will then have the time to pinpoint your next if needed! More than likely the first hit will disable and take most targets down. The first one or two rounds are almost always the most important. I think this guy posting is just a very inexperienced individual out of his area of expertise. I do carry a 1911 38 super gov mod off duty for weight and size reasons. My SS 1911 gets a bit heavy after a while with a smaller rig to carry all the time!
Hahahahaha! I knew when I seen the title exactly what it was going to be about. Let’s just beat up on every pistol cal but the 9! I carried one off and on for 18 years and qualified with it also for that many years while in the Marine’s! It was my TO weapon for many years until the Beretta came on the scene. Being effective with anything means you have to become proficient with it. That means going to the range and some ranges offer somewhat combat shooting were one engages multiple targets at different yardage.
Bullet placement is the most important factor.
By 5:04 I felt like falling asleep. The Marines trained me to shoot twice (double tap) at the center of mass. You'll have a 70% chance of one hit. Practice, practice practice. If you don't hit the point of aim, it really does not matter what size bullet you are throwing down range. As for people 'dumping the mag' at a threat, just proves some people should not be handling guns. Double tap and assess the environment for additional threats. Any cop firing more than two rounds at a time, should not be a cop.
Like most people have noticed- this video is junk AI BS. You do what works for you. I LOVED my Beretta 92FS for a very long time. I bought a Taurus GX4 a few years ago and I love it now. It makes the Beretta feel like it weighs 80 pounds. I've shot the GX4 a couple dozen times at the range and once you get used to not having your non-shooting thumb away from the back of the slide (If you know, you KNOW lol), it shoots very true. Like most comments mention- it doesn't matter what you are shooting if you don't hit your target! Get something that you are comfortable handling and Practice, Practice, and Practice some more.
My dad taught me back in the early 90's that 9mm is cheap to shoot/practice with, has enough knockdown power you can carry more rounds & faster follow-up shots my dad knew this way back then, yeah bullet technology wasn't that good but they still made some badass Hydra-shok jhp.. I remember when everybody got on the .40 cal bandwagon I stuck with 9 mm come full circle I'm glad I kept all my guns thruout the years 💪👌💯
Well done for an A.I. presentation. Good info, too!🙂
The only fatality shooting Ive been personally aware of took two 9mm rounds.. the first a JHP & 2nd a FMJ. The first a handloaded 115gr round by the shooter, the second a mil-surp 115gr of unknown province. Both were CoM, neither exiting. As I understand the situation, the assailant took the first round (115 JHP) in the chest and kept coming. The second, (115 FMJ) hit the chest area, didnt exit, and dropped the assailant drt. The shooter made a habit of loading the second round as FMJ for penetration in case the shootee was taking cover or in an automobile. Years of shooting experience were behind the individual in question, leading him to that decision.
definitely some thing to consider
I've been known to 'mix them up'!
As I understand it more people are killed with .22lr than any other caliber. I would not want to try wading through a hail of those rounds.
they r killed days but not stopped instantly most die hrs or days later thats not what u want in a life or death gunfight
I think the deadliest one is the one that gets you
There are so many LIES in this video. Knowledgeable people added thumbs down.
Great vid for the middle of the road level personal !
Germans got it right - right off!
Who else fast forward to find the bullet with a primer in the tip on the click bait😂
Interesting how they mentioned the 10mm but avoided discussing it. They also seem to have never heard of the 357 magnum or 41 magnum. This video screams that the author has either a law enforcement or military background and really only knows what is in their holster.
The 32 acp was mentioned, but not a word about the very popular concealed carry 380 acp round. Very narrow minded view on calibers.
15:44 - Skip ahead to the only good part. The rest is pure lies and misinformation.
I bet this AI have never shot a gun.
Even a rock is deadly if it strikes its target.
Just ask David. It was the placement of the stone to Goliath's head.
Shot placement is all that matters you put a 22 LR through the brain or heart the target will go down. The 40 cal and 45 have not gone by the wayside. Who ever did this video was borderline on information i knew that when the opening photo had primers in the bullet 😂
And the gel block vid is from Liberty Ammunition's 10mm Civil Defense. My EDC. 60 gr, 780 ft.lb., at 2,400 ft/sec, frangible.
That primered bullet stopped me, didn't even start the video. I knew it would be better to just read the comments.
I laughed when he was talking about 300g+ .454 Casull while showing a picture of a box of 200g JHP at 2:24!
@@RTmadnesstoo Some people should not be allowed near computers, much less firearms.
9mm
357mag 6 inch barrel
The deadliest caliber is based solely in the training of the individual using the weapon.
For decades Russian KGB would use 22 LR for up close assassinations.
When you called the .454 Casull as "Castle", that was it for me. I have seen enough BS from half-assed know-it-alls last year to carry over to now.
Most of these videos have people reading a script. It's unusual for the reader to know what the script is talking about. He only gets paid to read.
@@michaelboss7321 What's to guarantee that whoever wrote and provided the script isn't as half-assed as the reader ? The only clue we viewers have to that question is the reader. So its strike one and "out" as the only solution ? In case you are just guessing, that is where I am at right now.
@@Oldclimber1
No guarantee at all. Just because a TH-camr claims to be an expert doesn't mean they're an expert, it only means they claim to be an expert. Some on here could be good advice and some is worthless. A person has to seek out experts to really learn.
@@michaelboss7321 Do you mean like the "experts" who predicted a Harris presidency in November of 2024 ? That is a case in point for having no tolerance for something designed to keep "you" running in circles.
It's AI, my friend... This is a good example of why we are doomed.
The one that kills you is the most deadly ☠️
Standard hollow points can become clogged with clothing material upon entry and prevent them from opening.
you asked what's the best so i felt obligated to answer, a custom made 357 die cast aluminum 4 an 3 quarter inch barrel. The ammo already deadly - but make it hollow points for the best of both worlds, this round will send someone flying in the opposite direction with a lot of healing to do after a miracle took place in order to survive! the gun will always go bang when you pull (revolver) does not need to be left half empty to preserve magazine spring, also does not need maintenance due to the aluminum not rusting. The barrel length is perfect for control being less than 6 inches, yet still plenty long enough for velocity, accuracy, power etc.. only weakness is only 6 rounds - so get a few speed loaders or just get 2 guns, all this along with a ton of practice is a deadly plan. 2nd plan is simple - 2 - 9mms with special ammo and again a ton of practice not just shots down range, but how to wear it, pull it, get to it quick and routine like' so they become like a part of you - all these intangibles is what makes a particular gun deadliest for that person. This is an extremely underrated concept... like in the movie taxi driver - in real life all that practice and getting comfortable with your weapons is a real deal deadly dynamic!!!
so why did you forget the .357? because thats the one that ends this conversation
cause guy is full of crap
The hammer of Thor aka .357SIG, More reliable, accurate, flatter and hits like a lightning.
The black talons, they were the ones till the federal government took them away🤨🤨🤨
my husband found ten boxes at a yard sale lady sold them for 10 bucks a box!!! she was happy she got a 100 bucks
Winchester ranger t series is similar if not the same
At 70+ years, and having been involved in shootings of humans, 2 on a more personal level, I say your theorizing of "the magic nine expanding bullet" is just so much bullet sheit! You know what happens in the majority of hollow point (expanding) bullets is? Right! Nothing. The hollow point clogs with closing and becomes a fast noise zipping into or through a target! I have carried and studied almost every caliber, from .22 LR up to and including the .44 Magnum but most often at .44 Special + P pressures and velocities.. I have carried EVERY description of bullet and bullet material. FOR MANY YEARS i CARRIED A .45 ACP ON AND OFF DUTY WITH THE BEST EXPANDING OR FRANGIBLE LOADS, but due to a mild stroke and some loss of strength in my left hand I have gone back to a .44 caliber revolver. It is always loaded with one of three types of bullets. The new Hornady 165 grn Critical defense, but I find it falls a little short on penetration, but expands well EVERY TIME! Next I carry .44 special +P HBWC reversed in the case at about 900-950 fps. The two personal examples I spoke of were shot with .38 Special +P HBWC, loaded backwards, and resulted in two one shot stops! BAM! Bam! Down and out! One dying in about 2 minutes from a severed aorta, the second dropped like hit by a 2x4 and dying the following morning due to the liver destroyed by the violently expanding bullet. I also carry a back up Charter Arms in my right front pocket holster, loaded with reversed or forward facing wad cutters at 750-800FPS which barrier and ballistic gel penetrate very nicely. This complements my S&W Model 69 on the right hip and full of HBWC's. The HP 9's skid off of car bodies, angular walls, and skuuls as well, just like round nosed .38 bullets did back when that was the duty round. Just ask Jim Cirillo of NYPD Stake Out Squad fame. Look him up, it will do you much good. Precision shooting under stress beats the heck out of spray and pray high capacity 9's.
In the seventies, Charter Arms, we're a favorite carry gun, and they still are. I don't believe in one shot stops, unless there is major organ damage, or head shots. The famous Jim Cirrillo as mentioned by another, is the authority on handgun power, we are not talking rifles,as almost any level two, unless plates are employed can be defeated by a rifle round, even 44 mag can be stopped with the right vest on. Riles too, but the plates are needed, don't know the levels anymore.
Hollow points make a difference, but they are not magic. The human body is capable of more then we think. Flesh wounds from a nine, were common to my girlfriend a emergency nurse, but not one .45 wound on four years on her shift, make of it what you will.
"A bullet has to penetrate vital organs in order to stop an attacker." Really?
Yes, really. 99% of the time. Especially with handguns.
Agree on what ever you can shoot the best, just be sure of the ammo you use. 9mm ammo on a full size duty pistol will act differently in a 3 inch sub compact. Do your homework on what is the best ammo for the caliber you are shooting in the sizes of gun you are using!
0.38+p special with soft lead bullets
While getting my degree college for my degree in Criminal Justice, we had a case in study where a suspect was shot 37 times with a 9mm before he dropped. Sixteen rounds were fatal, but in reality the 9mm did not give the same take down power as my 45.
I could have said all this in 2 minutes! Brevity is the key to success! At least you showed a great ammo, Hornady!
That said, I carry 2 Glocks for maximum security, a 26 and 27.
This video is full of lies and misinformation. I carry a S&W model 29. Saved my life twice so far with incredible results.
Ask David that slayed Goliath!
L😂L
357 mag. with federal 125 grain jacketed hollow point... in actual police shootings. . 1 shot in the mid section... the fight was over 90% of the time
Well, since you're cutting through the myths, I always attributed the real deadliness to the poison the rounds were dipped in.
There is no one weapon or ammo that is best at everything.
Like any gun, a 6.5 creedmore is a good gun but everywhere it shines I can tell you of a gun caliber that's better, but that gun does work and when my brother n law is eating supper I can tell him it's junk, they all work and work good, I don't want to get shot with a 22lr, how about you
@stevemabry6718 It depends on what distance they shoot from 😉. the absolute best weapons and caliber are the ones you use and train with and that you know your own limitations.
Correct, guns are tools. You need a number of different tools , depending on the task !
@dougthornton6884 The most important thing is that you practice and enjoy using your tools.There are a lot of tools that just stay in the cupboard just because you quickly find a few favorites 😉👍.
One last point before I leave, I've never seen a 9 mm outperformed a 40 s&w to get similar results to 9 mm had to go plus p but if more rounds is what you need because you can't shoot I respect your choice
I don't know allot about guns or the ammunition. I was given a .22 caliber revolver about 30 years ago for protection. I was told to keep 3 solid bulllits for the first 3 shots and 3 hollow point bullits in it for the last 3 shots. I was also told it was to be used for protection of a person breaking into my home with intent of harming my family or myself. The idea was if the first 3 didn't stop an intruder, the last 3 hollow points would. I was also advised to take the revolver to a practice range to learn how to use it. To my surprise I was a pretty good aim at 20 to 30 yards. If someone was inside your home, that's more than close enough. I mounted the holster to my bed rail for a quick retrieval of the gun just in case of an intruder. The gun has remained in that position for the last 7 or 8 years. I would never want to take another human life unless it was clear self defense of myself or family. I really don't care much for guns, but in this day and age with so many druggies and crazies running loose, I have finally convinced myself a gun is good for protection only!!! .
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Back in the day when the 9 mm became very popular, the 80’s Long Beach California PD Ballistic Team told me that a .380
(9 mm short) did more damage because it tumbled in flight. Nasty when hit by one.
Someone lied to you and has no idea what they are talking about. .380 does not "tumbled in flight".
Also too much emphasis on 9mm, however I can see that the 9 mm is the most popular sold one globally as well as in the United States
In the final analysis, marksmanship wins the day! It doesn't matter how big or powerful your ammo is, if you can't hit your target, you've already lost. All the hype about which is the best defensive ammo is just blather! A show of hands here, how many people would take a .22LR to the face and continue the attack? High on drugs or religious "psycho-ness" is a whole different story and it doesn't matter what you carry. IMHO, if you spend more time on the range than you do looking at "terminal ballistics charts", you'll do just fine!
I wold also like to add that, even though my father was survivor of D-Day, and being a survivor of the Korean War, he did not waste his time trying to inculcate this kind of information to me.
What was not mentioned was if you can't hit the target that you are aiming for, it absolutely makes no difference what kind of round is being fired!!
Your opinion is nonsense.. You have obviously never engaged a live target.. A .45 ACP at normal pistol range is 99.999 effective, so is the old .45 Colt. So .454 Casull and the .44 magnum is 100% effective @ normal pistol range. It's Mass x velocity plus bullet placement.
I have read articles saying it is not uncommon for people shot with a 9 mm to not realize they were shot until they noticed they were bleeding.
As far as the Colt 45, I suppose it's possible but to my knowledge no one has ever been hit by one without knowing it.
u r absolutely correct
It would be interesting to listen to a study on a caliber like the 5.7x28. I recently purchased a S&W M&P. It holds 22 rounds and has a high velocity. The recoil is very light and can be easily held on target for a double tap. The high velocity allows it to penetrate body armor. The light projectile, once penetrated, will tumble and/or spall. It will hurt your feelings, at the very least.
I saw a guy being interviewed about being shot SIX Times with a 5.7 on that Army Base in Texas. He didn't appear worse for the wear.
Liberty Ammo Civil Defense 10mm and made in Texas
Weight: 60gr Velocity: 2,400 FPS Kinetic Energy: 780 FPE
Accuracy: < 1” @ 25 Meters Rounds: 20 per box
Terminal Effect: 4 -1/2” W x 12” D
Compared To Other Top Self-Defense Rounds
- 8 to 17% less felt recoil - 106 to 133% more velocity - 45 to 84% more kinetic energy
- Reduced over-penetration - More stopping power
This stuff works, and less recoil in my 10mm, and is easy to cycle as my 40 S&W
Even this video is full of myths. You know the narrator hasn't got a clue when he says the .454 Castle. He corrected himself, but still... Yes, a modern 9mm can be a Man Stopper with good shot placement, and the additional capacity allows for Double-Taps. However it's a poor choice for bear. You need to move up to a 10mm, and Hard Cast bullets. Penetration is more necessary over expansion.
This is interesting but as I have understood it what kills is the Shock that the person goes into from being shot and the best for that is a combination of velocity and impact from the bullet.
What abou barrel lenth?
The longer barrel means bigger speed for the bullet,therefore you have deeper penetration.It's not for concealment of course,but when it comes to get the job done-it's worth it.
The shooter and bullet placement. Period! Know your firearm.
How to cut this entire video's info down to a couple of seconds? "There is no perfect caliber of bullet, because shot placement wins the fight." 'Nuff said.
A bullet shot from a gun is deadly. End of discussion.
So according to the FBI the most deadly caliber is .22LR.
It is involved in the most fatal shootings, most of which are self delete.
It kind of illustrates that even when you have a hard definition of "deadliest caliber" (something this vid struggled with.) it can still be misleading.
No such thing as the deadliest. That's like saying the most pregnant. Deadly is deadly... regardless of the piece of metal used.
Another words, no one is more dead or less dead then a dead person.
9mm, 45 auto, 40 cal what do you have? Well I have all 3. 9mm compact hid in my car. 45 auto as my carry. 40 cal as a hunting side arm.
I think 10 rounds is the game. If you have 10 rounds, you can take out a zombie.
Heil stick by the 357 Magnum hollow point. A round I carry and have carried for most of my life😮
Simply, it's the one you're willing to have with you instead of home in the safe.
10 mm
Really, really interesting AND usefull.
Thank's a lot.
Those 9mm cnc copper bullets will tear up all kinds of tissue
It come to bullet placement……….😊
100 + years ago the US invaded the Philippines. Wanted to steal the tropical hardwoods there, i suppose. some hillmen called Moros didn't care for the invaders, and had a habit of charging out of the brush and beheading the officer leading the Us Marine patrol. (Taking down the enemy chief was how you won in their wars) .38 revolvers did not stop them. So the Us went to .45's, which apparently did stop them. Now the .38's used a soft lead bullet, heavier and slower then a modern 9mm round. I don't know how much difference that makes.
but ill bet the guy that went back home with his head still in place does lol
The king of cavitation is the .556 nato. Read about the temporary wound channel, cavitation at 2800 ft per second. From a 16 inch barrel, 3250 fps, more than needed for mass cavitation. .55 grain or 62 grain, best for cavitation, 55 grain, fmj tumbles, or spins, causing irreparable damage to major organs.
Just very hard to concealed carry...
I felt bad for the buffalo
I started watching this video knowing after decades of experience that shot placement is the most important aspect.... just took them to the 14:20 mark to mention that😕..... practice, practice, practice people!!!!
The narrator keeps saying the same thing over and over again. I suspect he's trying to keep viewers hooked for the 15 minutes he need for his advertiser's.
No mention of the 38 special or the 357 magnum ?
Strange days indeed ..
I'm a .45 guy.
I have small hands but strong so recoil, I like it! 👍
Don't like double stack ers. That removes tge more rounds for me. So yes size matters.
All the mentioning if the science making 9s so much better .
I wasn't aware science and physics was only effective on 9mm bullets. LOL the same wonderfully advances can't apply to bigger rounds?
If you hit what you're shooting at, that's what makes it deadly.
A .45ACP has more recoil than a .40SW? In what world? The 40 caliber kicks more and has more energy and penetration than a .45.
Its the fact that gun shops sell everything 9mm. Its difficult to carry and use others when these shops push one gun over another.
Another 9 mm is the Be all round in the world video search TH-cam there are plenty of videos where store owners defend themselves with 9 mm and the criminal runs out of the store after being shot two or three times plenty of those videos. Show the criminal coming back to the store and shooting the store owner 9 mm is not the B all cartridge 357 magnum would be a better choice and you don’t need to worry about recoil after the first shot, if you have something that will put them down in one shot magazine dump is not the answer.
Shocking truth about the deadliest bullet....bah bah bah. This video proves everyone has their own opinion. Carried a 1911 in the military, it always saved the day, and I'll not depart from it.
Let's not forget the 1986 FBI shoot out in Miami, where two agents died. This was blamed on the fact that the agents were using 9mm and .38 spl, and didn't have sufficient stopping power. A fact the FBI seems to have forgotten.
Didn't the FBI go to 10mm at one point ?
@@dougthornton6884 Yes, but then decided it was too big for them.