#62: No Water In the Bilge!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- How will we do it? With a sump box. The sump box rocks. But, we had to seal up the anchor chain locker first (quite the chore) and run all the hoses. Thanks to Brandon with www.perdidosail... also for devising a cool way to re-purpose an old pump to move the water overboard. Enjoy the show and see all of our boat projects at havewindwilltr....
Annie, you should have enough material for your next book. I'll be expecting it to be the same thickness as War and Peace. I hope you are enjoying the fruits of your labor now.
+Uncle Muir Thanks Uncle. I really think I will write a comical one about this whole misfits refit! Every day was a fresh hilarious obsta-venture!
Hose clamps... can't tell you how many times I forgot to put them on FIRST, but as painful as is it is to admit, admitting it is one thing, deciding whether trying to pull the hose back off the barb or the doing the tedious chore of unscrewing the hose clamps and fitting them over the hose, then trying to get the dang clamp to screw back together in place is another pain altogether! By the way, I for one thought it was pretty fascinating!
+MISTERComaToes Why thank you. I did too. Like I said, I thought I was doing a big damn deed!
Nice work! I know all about uncomfortable positions in a boat. I feel your pain. :)
+Empty Nest Sailing I"ll be you do. There are so many of them. When we were building the stringers back in that same place, Russ kept saying he was sick of doing yoga on our boat. Downward dog in the bilge hurts. Ha!
FYI: The hole saw you used should have had a small pilot bit installed with the round saw to start a small hole first and steady the larger saw when you drill.
Enjoying the videos - nice style and I do appreciate my wee comments just crack you up! ;-) But here goes.
1. Is the sump box big enough to supply a 1000 gallon per hour pump (you did say a thousand - didn't you?).
2. Many yachts have a free draining cable locker with two low down drains just above the waterline - did you consider that.
3. Is there any potential for flood migration through the box for example shower (grey) water back up into the fridge or did you install check (non return valves) to prevent that happening?
Just a few wee enquiring questions.
But I do think you are both doing a great job ; your industry, application and enthusiasm are to be commended - and thats the nicest thing I have ever said about a lawyer. ;-)
+Norman Boyes Hey Norman! All valid questions. Yes, the bilge box is 1,000 gallons/hour. Our foreward secondary pump is 500 gallons and our main bilge pump is 2,500 gallons/hour, so the box is right in the middle. Sadly, no, we do not have self-draining lockers on ours that drain out. We have a self bailing cockpit but no other lockers that automatically drain overboard. The box isn't water-tight. It just has a plastic lid screwed on (no o-ring) so if it filled (and for whatever reason did not pump) it would begin leaking into the bilge (and vice versa if the bilge began to fill and for whatever reason did not pump, it would begin leaking into the box. But, all valid questions. Keep 'em coming! Glad we could start to convert your opinion about those nasty lawyers!
That's some good ol' country engineering there! The bilge looks great all clean and painted up like that, and looks like it should stay dry. Nice work. BTW, a pilot bit in the hole saw makes a world of difference. Then again, you would have lost a few minutes of entertainment for us watching you try to start the hole without one. ;) And yes, DIYers are very entertaining!
+Chuck Klima Exaaaactly. We do it all for you! We learned that ... later. Thanks for watching. Glad you're enjoying the show!
I'm always amazed at how you break the stereotype mold of an attorney with your tackling of all of these "get your hands dirty" projects. You go girl!
+Chris Desselles thanks Chris. I have to say of it weren't for the pay difference I'd rather work in the yard. Far more fulfilling.
How much fresh water would you typically use to rinse the chain when raising anchor? Where is the center drill bit for he hole saw? Would make life easier.
+g. Normal I know, right? (Little secret ... we didn't even know there was one until Brandon came up and saw our hack job, laughed and got us one -- DOH!) We use raw water to rinse our chain with our wash down on deck (very handy!) but it did mean raw water was always going down to the bilge (not ideal). Sometimes a good bit of water is needed when the chain is totally gummed up with mud.
+HaveWindWillTravel.com Raw, meaning raw salt water? or Fresh?
Raw salt. We're in Florida.
+HaveWindWillTravel.com I've seen where a chain and rode is fed through abs at a downward angle towards the bow with a pressure jet inside the tube rinsing the chain and preventing the water from getting in. It may use fresh water to prevent the salt corrosion that happens when the water evaporates in the locker. Although I imagine it would take a holding tank to provide that amount of water. Thanks for the reply.
G'day, great effort getting all that installed. I think your biggest problem will be mud on the chain blocking up the drain hose. Most boats I have seen have a floor above the water line and a drain through the hull.. Just a plan B if plan A doesn't work.. cheers Russell
+Russell Zylstra Ahhh ... something I hadn't thought of yet. Thanks Russell (always good to have a huge base of boaters to run this stuff by). We do have a (raw water) deck wash near the bow pulpit that we use to wash the chain down thoroughly before she goes down the hatch, so I'm hopeful we won't have (much) mud come in, but very good thought. Thanks for watching and your input!
Always remember your bilge and anything inside the hull is alot like a frogs bottom; "works best when it is watertight"! Never buy a slightly used "screen door" even it was used in a submarine! etc. Happy your boat is finally coning togather!
+bill bye Ha. You sound just like my Dad. He'll says "That's tighter than a frog's ass." Which means watertight! Thanks Bill. We're getting there.
Wow, there is no way I could have fit in that tight space, more power to yeah. You would think that the builders would know that all sailboats need the modifications you are doing and should be on all boats! You can now teach us how to be the human pretzel installing sump box tubing. Yeah that is the right song, good luck! Love you guys and your videos, now get to sailing again!
+dtonvista Thanks Don! I'll work on my human pretzel instructions. It's all in the folding! And regarding the sailing I've put together a fun little flashback for Monday's video. I think we all need a little reprieve from the yard! Thanks for watching!
How long before that tiny hole in the anchor locker clogs?
Gloves and tape are a great idea for fiberglass work. Yall are killing it !!!. Hope things go well and get back in the water soon. Judging by what your wearing it must have been cold. You might already be in Panama. Ha
+pate allan I wish we were! But alas, Pensacola. It was a cold winter though. Hard times on the hard! Ha!
Captain Phil, it is always exciting to see Annie work, especially when she gets herself, her tools and her camera into spots a contortionist would find claustrophobic. Glad to see the sailing shots too as it reminds us what we are all banging our knuckles for.
+Ed Rymes Thanks Ed. Lots of worthwhile banging here. Monday's video will give a little glimpse of what it's all about. Enjoy!
Love what you are doing to the boat and you have to wonder why some of these little "tricks" are not incorporated by the original builder. I know, it's all about money and when dealing in bulk it adds up. $500 saved on 100 boats is a lot of money. But a few hoses, a box and a pump to have a dry bilge? Seems a no brainer and the extra storage would easily justify the upgrade to the original buyer. Anyway, when you get done your vessel will actually be much better than new! Love the videos, love that it is real and gives us potential buyers some things to look for while conducting our search for THE boat.
+LA Roberts Hey LA. Thank you so much. That means a lot to me. A ton of love and labor go into these videos and every bit of support towards our Give the Gift of Cruising campaign on www.patreon.com/havewindwilltravel?ty=h helps us help more people out there like you who want to realize their dream of cruising. I'm glad you're finding them entertaining and informative. Thanks for watching!
now I'm only concerned about the water caused by the moist in the bilge.
nice work.
+Buraque NFE We're hoping that will be our only concern too. Thanks for watching.
when using a whole saw don't try and start with the whole saw flat on the wood. start with the drill at a 45 degree angle. it will keep it from jumping around, once it starts to bite and start cutting then angle the drill back flat.
+scooter0241 Man Scooter, where were you when we were botching all those hole saw attempts? Ha! Yes, we have definitely learned SINCE THEN how better to drill a hole. Thanks for watching! Aren't DIY'ers entertaining? : )
Well it may not be that exciting to see a hose go on, but when you're anchored at some exotic location sipping on a cool one you can sit back and think yes look how far we've come.. now that's exciting.
+rchopp Cheers to that Chopp!
Check out the building of the Gotheborg on You Tube. It is a 3 part series.
+Twentypdr Parrott Thanks. Will do!
Well! First, let me say that I like to watch the vids of my favorite channels while eating my lunch. I was just getting up to make lunch when I spied a new HaveWindWillTravel vid in my YT queue. I ACTUALLY said "Goodie!" because I would have something great to watch while eating my lunch! Second, let me tell you as someone who knows his way around tools, getting the hang of drilling out a hole using a hole saw without a pilot drill (to keep the dang thing steady) while not impossible, is not an easy thing if you've never done it before. You need to ease up on yourself that sort of thing is NOT intuitive. Third, "drill it holer" Is it crazy that I knew exactly what you meant? I mean, if you have a hole and you make it bigger, it's more of a hole, ergo "holer" ; )
+MISTERComaToes You know what I say when I see a Mister Comatoes comment? Goodie! I'm glad you're picking up what I'm putting down. The fact that you could get as much of a laugh out of my lingo as I do makes me gladder!
MISTERComaToes ì
note that was exciting!!!!↪
+shippen2010 ha. Thanks Shippen! I thought it was!
"That spot was the most uncomfortable spot on the boat!" Yeah, knowing about getting ones self into uncomfortable spots I can safely tell you that yoga mats are your friend! Or any type of cushioning for that matter...
Genius! Marry Me!
+Sam Gagnon Ha. A marriage proposal over TH-cam. I love it! Yes, yes! ; )
Great but a little water in the bilge doesn`t hurt :)
+Valde Philosophical Asmr Ha. You're probably right and we may still have a little now and then for water inlets I cannot clog, cover up or otherwise fill with epoxy! It's definitely good, though, to have a back-up bilge pump as well and not have to stop a steamy shower to drain the shower pan! Thanks for watching!
A have always a little water (at winter -ice) in my boat :) (NOT too much)
Sounds like a great life motto Annie! "No water in the Bilge!" lol btw, I replied to your email, basically I said, legal docs like jury duty, auto or boat registration, taxes etc.
+Ted Smith Hey Ted. Thanks. I'll cross stitch it on a pillow. I'll get on your message now. Finally got some quiet time on the hook!
It's all very exciting! Especially the hose clamps!
+S/V Southern Lady those are the most exciting.
You should have used G10 for the floor.
+Ian Goodnow Thanks Ian. I assume you mean for the floor of the anchor locker. We used SilProof silicone.
Actually G10 is a composite board that is vacuum bagged. It's much stronger than Coosa board. We used it a lot when I was building boats up in Maine. Sorry I forgot to reference that floor in the anchor locker.
Oh cool. Never heard of it. I figured if it started with a "G" it was going to be a bonding agent, like Gflex - ha! Thanks for the tip!
Your welcome. Keep doing what you're doing. I like your boat reviews.
Thanks Ian!