Which Logos Do I Prefer of the Primary Logos NHL Teams Have Used?
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- I have had the question asked recently about which logos I prefer, so why not discuss it in a video?
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The NHL has definitely got the best logo's in all of sports.
Agree to agree completely
It is hard to argue there. There are some good logos abroad like the English Premier League, especially my Spurs. But, imo, the NHL logos are the best in any sport worldwide. Nippon Professional Baseball logos are pretty wild too.
FACTS!
@@WordAte the Spurs logo is great 👍👍
I think fans having such strong opinions is to blame
As a native Pittsburgher, we all loved it when the Pens went back to the marigold. It reunified the colors of all three of our pro teams
I didnt like it. Also from Pitt. I'm with Shannon on this one.
Robo
The Wheeling Nailers have the best look at what the current Pens design but with the soft gold color
@@upstairscat87 Agreed on all counts. Even the name, "Vegas gold," is just an antithesis of Pittsburgh. Whereas some logos make more sense and gain fondness as time passes, even the genesis of the now decrepit core doesn't inspire any fondness for that color. I don't mind the tweaks to the skating penguin, but I cannot get past the color.
I prefer the current logo but am okay with either. I wouldn't say the triangle logo with a head growing out if it is beloved now but people have come to terms with it. I've always kind of liked it but it's just not the best choice.
I really wish the Kings went back to the crown logo and added purple back to the jersey. I loved that odd shade of purple and black combo. Purple needs to appear in the league again.
I agree, although purple shouldn't return to the jersey so not to confuse fans with the Sacramento Kings of the NBA who still use purple in their logo & jersey (though in my view the Sacramento Kings really need to go back to their original colors of red, white & blue & their original logo that they had in Kansas City).
I think I'll always be a chevron guy.
I agree! I'm a hockey fan and a visual artist (so I might care a little too much about colours). Purple have been associated with royalties throughout european history, since the early purple pigments was extracted from rare seaslugs and therefore very expensive. In other words, it looks great AND is historically accurate! 👑
Howdy, GoalHorn! Definitely agree on the Kings colors. The purple & black look good. All black is just boring and for some odd reason the Pacific Division tends to have a lot of black or very dark jerseys. I also like the crown. I’m old enough to have watched the original Kings with their “Imperial Margarine” crown. While I like that one, I think I prefer the newer crown. Also, I read where the original crown is more like a queen’s crown, while the newer one is more like a king’s crown!
@@chrisguardiano6143 Hi Chris. IMHO, I wouldn’t worry about the purple confusing hockey fans and basketball fans. It’s pretty obvious which is which. Cheers!
Hartford Whalers is also my favorite all time logo. Not just hockey, not just sports, my favorite logo period
capitals should go back to screaming eagle jersey and logo, the bland capitals logo is outdated anymore. screaming eagle just makes sense
As a Flyers Fan I Agree!
or the capitol building!
@@davidovics92 yes loved the old jersey with capital building on it and eagle in the side. The reverse retro from 2020 would make sense it’s still red white blue and has screaming eagle 🦅
YES! Get rid of the damn word mark.
As a caps fan I’m the only one in my house that shares that mindset. I think that if they went with their first reverse retro jersey and made a white version as the away it can work. The look is back and you can still sell the whole “Rock the Red” motto that caps merchandise has. Plus it looks good.
One of my favorite things about hockey is the original six logos mostly staying the same throughout history. Such a great thing for the sport.
Also I think the current jets logo along with their sound and lighting affects in their barn during a game is really cool.
Although harder to find, I’d like to see a review of the shoulder patches too
I love the Bolts old one with the lightning bolt across the silhouette of the state of FL.
I’d like to see a review of each team’s stripe pattern.
The Kraken color scheme is gorgeous, the Ice Blue accent and few hints of red are great. Especially the red eye of the logo!
Subjective, but I hate it. Wish they used the Totems or Metropolitans branding. A mythological Greek creature has nothing to do with Seattle, and their branding is cartoonish like an AHL or CHL club.
@@MisterCaution I agree with mp the scheme is just chaotic and reminds me of cotton candy for some reason. I was all for Totems would have more cultural relevancy.
@@Canadianvoice Blues fan here, so my take is purely neutral. I’m OK with Kraken and the logo (although I would have made the logo a little more “monsterish”). However, I would have gone with a blue or dark teal home jersey. The all black (or is it very very dark navy?) jersey and pants is drab and boring. I like their white road jerseys better as the logo and ice blue stripes really pop on white.
@@MisterCaution the Kraken is a sea monster, and Seattle is a sea town. I think that’s relevant enough. Plus they pump every other aspect of their brand with connections to Seattle, from their jerseys to the music that they play to everything around the arena, even the fish that they throw when they celebrate the 3 stars after every game. If you’re looking for ties to Seattle then they’ve done more than enough IMO.
@@hoodoogoblin4612 I think the Kraken is just a cool sea monster and is unique from any other sports mascot. It’s probably not any deeper than that.
I grew up in Arizona and was in my teens when the Coyotes came to the state. Their original/current logo is far superior to the howling head. The return to the classic uniforms is also extremely welcome.
Agreed! The kachina dog is just awesome. I think its because most outside the state don't understand the native influence or culture like us from Arizona. The howling dog needs to be buried deep and forgotten.
I agree on the W eagle for Washington should be their primary logo, it's a great design with a really really great use of negative space to outline the capital building and define the shape of the W
I agree! The Weagle is the best of the Caps logos.
I'm always going to go with the original six logos, but you have to admit, the Wild logo and both Sharks logos are really just some of the most amazing logos in all of sports.
Imo, probably biased as a Hawks fan my entire life, but the Blackhawks logo is one of the best in sports
Just like me the red jerseys are the best in all of sports
Not one of the best...Thee best!
Content is always interesting and great on this channel.
Buffalo is in an insane situation where both the original logo and the goathead are seemingly equally loved. That’s not supposed to happen, but the goathead logo, shoulder patches, font and color scheme just friggin worked. Might be the most intimidating sweaters out there, players always felt like they were more aggressive and truth be told… their best years were in black and red; 4 conference finals and a finals in just 9 years?!?!?!
Im not a Blue Jackets fan but I am a fan of Arsenal in the EPL and think a canon as a logo can look incredibly slick. I hope the Jackets try for similar.
I'm a Jackets fan and I can tell you, in the community, just about everyone wants the cannon to be their main jersey, with a white version added
I like the current logo design as the shoulder patch with the cannon as the primary logo.
Dude. I appreciate your videos. These are the questions I asked myself as a kid for fun, and these are still awesome questions to ponder. 😊
Fun video! Favorite is definitely the Whalers logo. Found myself humming "Brass Bonanza"..
You nailed it on the Sens 3D logo. The black and gold jersey from the early 2000's is so clean 👌
Hope you have a wonderful Christmas with your Fam Shannon! Thankyou for the fantastic content, never miss a vid
loving the content bud! appreciate ya
I love how the tone and voice reminds me of a Sr. Logistical Ops explaining "Fulfillment Engine Small Sort Induct / Quality Control 101" BUT INSTEAD, it's cool and interesting stuff like NHL Logo deep dives!!! Very soothing and pleasant 👊🏻🤲🏻😭
Love the Jersey! I ordered a Scouts jersey just last week
I am hoping Capitals will bring back their first reverse retro eagle with that uniform as their new regular. As for logos, my favorite logo of all-time is the Canuck skate they wore from 89-92 in those colors. Otherwise, the Bruins, Blues, Avalanche and Sharks are sporting the best logos in the league. Not counting the original 6.
Bruins are part of the original six
I'm not a Captals fan but for some reason I've always liked their Capital building jerseys and I agree the flying skate is my all time favorite as well
I've been a Buffalo fans since the early 90's, so I've seen the whole evolution of the branding there. I loved the black and red goathead logo because there were a lot of good memories during those years, but when I started seeing renderings online of the goathead in the traditional blue and gold, that was always a winner in my eyes. Glad to see they did something like this in the reverse retro this season, but there's too much white on that jersey.
Around the end of the 2000s, there was a contest to find a name and logo for a potential new team in Quebec. Many were trolling but some were very decent with well drawn (and drawable) wolves or polar bears or actual igloos that would've made for some cool jerseys
If I were to design a new logo for a Quebec team, it would be the old town (petit Champlain) with Chateau Frontenac at the top
I don’t understand the igloo. Wouldn’t that be more like a Nunavut thing?
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe igloo is a Inuit thing and there are Inuit in Quebec (Nunavik) but I agree it could be viewed as cultural appropriation
I agree with Shannon on the beige penguin, I've always liked it even though yellow is my favorite color
Technically the Ballard era Leafs logo did grace a jersey again, just in the form of a modified version of it as the Borje Salming patch. Only looking at it after watching this video did I realize it's the 67 logo without the text and with a crown. Which I think looks very sharp, I don't know why they took the patches off. It should've stayed all season imo.
I'm a Sens fan and I always agreed with you till I got my new 2d zub. Looks amazing
The Penguins had the "Pigeon" logo during my childhood so I have nostalgia for it. But I remember my older relatives hating it when they changed it.
Don't you dare called it a pigeon
@@janellemaynait That is what I remember a lot of people calling it when I was a kid.
Though that was because they probably hated that they switched from the skating penguin logo to the Robo Penguin.
@@HALberdier17 whoever called it a pigeon are horrible people, ps I hate the penguins
Which one is the Pigeon one?
@@jeffreym.8957 The Robo Penguin one. When it first started a lot of people referred to it as the Pigeon.
I even saw a video on the Penguins TH-cam page about the history of that logo and a few people that worked for the Penguins called it that.
Man when you came to Ottawa logo and chose the one you did I was furious until I felt your compassion on it then I all I could do is smile ear to ear. Love your videos hockey dude lol
I agree w everything you said about the LA Kings logo/jersey’s purple with that logo would be 🔥
I think we see eye to eye for the most part the only one I disagreed with was the Toronto Maple leafs old logo. I think it is so clean and simple. It makes it the best out of all the retro logos and this is coming from a Sabres fan but other than that great video and keep up the good work!
I think I pretty much agree with you on all of these, except maybe the Kings (although all of theirs are bad) and Senators. I was surprised that I never noticed the current logo for the Lightning had the team name on there for 6 seasons and then disappeared, but now that I am aware of it and see them side by side, dropping it was a big improvement.
Would love to see a retro blue and gold Mn Fighting Saints jersey for the Wild since the Xcel Energy Center sits where the old St Paul Civic Center was. The Fighting Saints logo was awesome. I know they were in the WHA but the Wild are sitting on prime Minn hockey historical turf.
Thank you for the video, Shannon! Wish i could like it twice!
The Philly logo has always kind of reminded me of the "P-Wing" from Mario 3.
Great video as always Shannon
I love the Orca Canuck logo. It just worked so well with the blue and red.
We definitely see eye to eye on the Capitals logos, Shannon. And I think most other caps fans agree as well.
The newest Kings logo is weird to me. Why is it a baseball home plate?
Buffaslug definitely wins for best logo nickname followed closely by Dallas' Mooterus. 😆
Someone created a new logo for Buffalo that had one of the iconic swords going through the Buffaslug. I would have bought that one.
Love the talk and video idea. I love “Robo Penguin” the most! Kraken somehow looks too much like baseball for me somehow, not at all as hockey, i like the logo and colours and feel but somehow it doesn’t feel like hockey. Vegas did incredible job! Kings should do something with simple crown, something super simple small flat gold crown on black jersey would be the best.
I love the jersey that you are wearing in this video. I have the same Kansas City Scouts jersey in both blue and white. Darryl Sittler was doing an autograph session at our local mall, so I wore my Kansas City Scouts jersey that day. I went to get his autograph and I asked him do you remember this jersey ? He said “Of course I do, it’s the Kansas City Chiefs.” I didn’t have the heart to correct the legend Darryl Sittler. Lol
Love the original videos like this
My favorite logo to draw as a kid was the Vancouver orca, still to this day it’s one of my favorites. I became a Bolts fan during the era of the second logo . I always wanted a clean logo with a blue jersey like our alternate at the time with the Bolts words mark. I’m so happy we finally got that and now I hope it sticks forever . Honestly NHL logos in general are top tier among professional sports
about the atlanta flames magnet, there are a few online but I'm guessing not the size you necessarily need
I would classify the Oilers primary logo history similar to the Flames - in the 90s they added a red circle (similar to the Flames black outline) which has since gone away. I guess you could have included the old WHA logo where the orange and blue are reversed, but this look is better.
I agree with most of your picks, even the 3d Senators logo. My few differences would be the stick and rink for the Canucks, the howling coyote, the yellow pens, and the Avs logo over the Nordiques. Maybe for the Stars I like the new logo -the old star shaped jersey and the darker green were great but the new logo is quite clean.
Isles fan here... 2018-19 was a funny season for the Isles. It was the first year post John Tavares and they played games in two areans. Barclays Center and the Coliseum. Isles fans was not particularly a fan of the Barclay's Center for various reasons. Thanks for the great content
I like the 3d sens and the howling coyote also the old dark colored buffalo jersey
Oh thanks Shannon, never before noticed the H on the Whalers logo...
Shannon, thank you for making my life so much better. Love you big brother
the funniest part of that NYI Gordons fisherman debacle, is that some marketing team went into a conference room, made their presentation, and somebody with the NYI said "Yeah let's use that one" ! ... LOL
Regarding your mention that the original Tampa logo doesn’t need the wordmark:
I would be curious to see merchandise that utilizes the OG logo, except without any words (or perhaps just “Tampa” on top)?
Great conversational video, Shannon. Thank you for keeping hockey talk fun and enjoyable!
Thank you for teaching me the word amalgamation! 😊
The 3D sens logo will always have a place in my heart. That being said, the 2D logo and the current jerseys are awesome and I want to keep them
Shannon, these are all great choices! I’m really impressed with your opinions and I didn’t find myself strongly disagreeing with any of them. Maybe Ottawa but that’s all.
👍 Thanks..I asked for this video!
Should do one on the NHL shield, conference/postseason logos etc.
As a Jets fan I will agree with your pick for them and as well with most of the teams you picked
Though I've never lived in or near NJ,, I'm actually a Devils fan because of the logo, so I definitely agree with the statement at the end.
Glad to see you wearing my favourite NHL jersey of all time. Bring back KC
90s Jets is awesome. You've got good taste save for picking the very interior Senators logo.
Fun video, Shannon. The only ones we differ on are Anaheim (I like the Mighty logo a lot, but the D is clever), Colorado (I love the Nords logo and want them to return to the NHL, but as a Wings fan who hates them, there's history with the Avs), Ottawa (2D is just cleaner), Pittsburgh (I like all three, but the yellow is classic), Winnipeg (the 90s logo is a very close second, but I prefer non-script/wordmark logos). Other notes: I love everything about the North Stars and want them back in the league, but the Wild logo is excellent. Vancouver's skate is iconic and should never go away completely, but the current orca is simpler (plus three of the seven Canadian teams having a "C" for a logo is quirky).
Having the red on the Blues' jerseys felt like a bad idea, but I actually liked them more than I thought. The flag for the city of St. Louis has quite a bit of red in it, so I understand throwing in touches of red on the jerseys. They just have to be careful to not overdo it.
Also, I didn't know the Buffaslug logo existed, but it is now my favorite hockey logo, and among my top 10 of all logos of any sports team.
The red looked terrible with the dark blue and the yellow stripes, the current Blues jersey is the best one that I've seen.
Buffaslug wasn't one of my favorites but also not nearly as dreadful as many say.
@@shoknifeman2mikado135 Absolutely agree. The Blues jerseys with a little bit of red weren’t very good. The ones with the big diagonal patch of red at the bottom were HORRIBLE!
Blue, red, and yellow (gold) just don’t go together.
Also, in the “red era”, the tips of the Blue Note wing were rounded. It made the Blue Note look fat and slow. I actually slightly prefer the original 1967 Blue Note, since it’s a little slimmer than the current one and just looks “sleeker and faster”. But the current one is perfectly fine, so no need to change.
Last point: I absolutely HATE this year’s awful yellow reverse retros. Hate the color and hate the amateur, cartoonish word marks. It’s not surprising we are playing poorly. Those jerseys are a jinx and need to be burned in a fire pit!!!!
Now I want to see you rank the order of your favourite logos from each team. Haha
funny how that works when i was a kid in 01-2010 all the retro logos i didnt like but now i love them 100x more then the modern ones example: sens, coyotes,sabers
I think Philly's logo with a color swap (orange with black dot) would've been an interesting look if they did it for a reverse retro. The kings should bring that crown back, the last time they used that was for the 2014 stadium series right?
I’m a total logo nerd so I really appreciate this video. A couple things...the Capitals actually make the “T” into the hockey stick instead of the “L” and it’s always annoyed me. The puck/avalanche part of Colorado’s logo forms a “C”. The skating penguin’s eye forms a lower case “H”, for “Hockey” maybe? I also rank logos for my own amusement every year so I’ll copy and paste my list for 2022 below. Bring on the haters!
NHL Logos Ranked 2022
1. New Jersey Devils
2. Philadelphia Flyers
3. Anaheim Ducks (Mighty Ducks)
4. Minnesota Wild
5. Detroit Red Wings
6. Boston Bruins
7. Calgary Flames
8. Arizona Coyotes (Cochina)
9. St. Louis Blues
10. Buffalo Sabres
11. Colorado Avalanche
12. Pittsburgh Penguins
13. San Jose Sharks
14. Vegas Golden Knights
15. Edmonton Oilers
16. Seattle Kraken
17. New York Rangers
18. Montreal Canadiens
19. Vancouver Canucks
20. Ottawa Senators
21. Carolina Hurricanes
22. Dallas Stars
23. Tampa Bay Lightning
24. New York Islanders
25. Florida Panthers
26. Chicago Blackhawks
27. Winnipeg Jets
28. Toronto Maple Leafs
29. Columbus Blue Jackets
30. Los Angeles Kings
31. Nashville Predators
32. Washington Capitals
Montreal has had the best logo since it first appeared (in it's current font ), in 1917-18, period
@@shoknifeman2mikado135 it’s a toilet bowl. You’re entitled to your opinion, though!
Not sure how I missed this vid back when you uploaded it so I know I’m late, but as a lifelong stars fan myself, born in 2000 and moving here 01’, and Modano being the sole reason I fell in love with hocmey so young and played hockey most my life… I prefer the current logo quite a bit more lol. Im not old enough to have gotten to really appreciate some of these teams iconic classic logos so I get why people have the bias for the vintage looks but I definitely prefer the current look cuz the colors are more modernized but allow for a more bright and standout look, plus the shade of green being called Victory green is cool. The logo itself is a little more meaningful to me too since it actually a Dallas logo and not the same thing they had in MN but edited to just have ‘Dallas’ on top. Having the base of the logo be the lone star, with the letter D cuz Dallas is also known as the Big D. Sure if you just think about it plainly, it’s just a D with a star behind it so it sounds stupidly too simple but the 3D effect with the shading gives off the impression to me of a metal like steel or iron and the to me gives the logo a sense of strength/toughness/durability
My first nhl game was nj vs ottawa and they had those 3d logos so they will always have a place in my heart
The 98-06 Canucks logo was my favorite, butt still love the new version. I get comments every time i wear my jersey on it from nonhockey fans asking what team it is because of the logo.
What are your thoughts on the Nordiques wolf rebrand that never was? Granted it can be hard to have an opinion on something that never saw game action
It's an unpopular opinion, but I love our (Jets) current logo and jerseys.
Feel free to crap on my comment, but the current jets logo looks like it came off a discount off-brand beer bottle cap…and not in a good way. You deserve better than that shitty logo
The old logo is a classic, and I think it's better by comparison, but the New Jets logo is also quite good, and I like their jersey design. I like that it's sort of a tribute the the Canadian Air force, definitely a great logo
@@nathanbrisebois8756 Absolutely. 👍🏻
I love the hurricane flag logo. A lot of people don't really get it but I think that it is super clever and it looks sharp.
For the record, I always liked the 3D logo.
I agree with a lot of what you said. As a BlueJacket fan, I’d love to see us move to the Cannon being our primary.
The good thing about the black border Flames logo is it forces good contrast if it's put on something white or yellow. It's also easier to see the yellow in general. Otherwise, it's not really different enough to carry a major opinion.
The fisherman is a bad overall branding logo compared to their normal one, but it's a great logo for a jersey or hat. I'd definitely make a frequently used alternate out of it.
3D Senators logo all day.
As an Ottawa fan in Utah, I am with you on the 3D Senators logo. Now that I will (apparently) soon be a fan of the new team in Utah, I hope they don't screw up the name/logo/colors
Nhl has the best logos. Those classic logos were amazing. So timeless
I agree with most of your choices except Toronto (fave team in the world and grew up on it), Ottawa (flat logo looks majestic and regal) and LA (that Gretzky era Oakland Raiders color scheme looks glorious). And the Christmas NJ is a guilty pleasure haha.
New Panthers logo is actually based on some division's symbol where the owner served back in the day, nice tribute. I might be wrong but its the legendary 101st airborne division.
I'm a diehard Avs fan, grew up in Colorado in the 90s, flying to Denver tomorrow for Leafs-Avs game. I go with the Nordiques logo too. I want a Sakic Nordiques Jersey.
Shouldn't the North Stars
logo be with Dallas. The Wild really doesn't have anything to do with the old North Stars
I think the Wild should have an alternate "Norm Green Sucks " jersey.
I think I agree with pretty much all of these except the Kings. That Gretzky logo is my favorite, and in LA seems to be the one most people harken back to.
There's a reason why I'm a Winnipeg fan in SC. It's because I used to go to Thrashers games on occasion, since they were the local team.
I'm with you on the Ottawa logo. The 3D one was way more dynamic than the old/new 2D one
I was surprised that the Rangers diagonal word jersey..so used to the 70s jersey always liked
I want the cannon to be the primary for the blue jackets so bad... the whole union soldier thing is great imho.
The cannon is a great looking logo in the same way the original sabres logo looks great and the original islanders logo looks great. The 90s/00s stuff was/is so concerned with trying to be modern, it lost the plot on so many levels. Not a Blackhawks fan by any stretch at all, but I do think it’s her best looking jersey ever made in any sport, some people will say it’s dated, I will say it’s timeless, people say the same thing about coca-cola’s logo, when something looks classy-as-shit, it stands the test of time
Not a Kings fan but Shannon... I'm with you about the crown logo and it's colours.
I mean who knows maybe I would become a Kings fan if that happened (unlikely)😉
Vancouver is not my main team but I do have a spot in my heart for them. I like the skate jersey but I like the orca more. With that said, I friggin LOVE their new reverse retro with Johnny Canuck. I wish they made that their main, holy crap is it nice! I want to get one with Horvat before he leaves.
Vancouver has always had great logos, although I was never a fan of the stick in rink logo, it's just so boring compared to every other logo they've had
The skate is my all-time fave Vancouver logo, with the current whale in 2nd place... the rink and stick looks fine on the shoulders and should never be moved back onto the chest
I loved the Blues blue note in the circle with the arch jersey but that one got a lot of hate when it came out. I believe most of the hate was about the change in blue but I keep hoping it comes back
I'm not personally a fan of it as a primary. It just feels like it overcomplicates the logo but, if they wanna throw it on the jerseys as a shoulder patch I think that'd fit quite well.
@@vortexmonkey5619 oh yeah. I dont think it will ever be a primary I would just be happy to see it return in some shape or fashion
I always thought that a logo with The Blue Note superimposed over the Gateway Arch would be cool. To me, the circle with all the words detract from it. I’d just have the Note and the Arch and nothing else.
And I agree with you that the color change wasn’t good. The navy blue as the primary color is just too dark.
I like the 3d Sens logo too!
gotta love the nordiques logo its so canadian igloos cause we live in igloos, hockey stick and hockey puck... all they needed is a tim hortons coffee cup and it would be canada in 1 logo LOL
The red on the blues logo was to incorporate all the colors of the St. Louis city flag. I like the 90s wra logo more but I'm also cool with the current one.
For the Nordiques, I suppose it represents a "n", but perhaps illustrating the fortifications of Quebec City as well. It is said that it is the only fortified city in North America and the city identifies itself with it.
Now time to do Defunct Team Logos and or Jersey's rankings.
The Senators had a 2-D logo that wasn’t the crest very similar to the 3-D, but it was 2D
The occasional red in the Blues’ logos/unis completes the color palette of the St Louis flag (which is mostly red with yellow and blue). Or at least that’s why I assume it crops up when it does. Only a super nerd like me would likely pick up on that though, so “why are the blues red” is a very fair question otherwise.
Hi deFault! Fellow nerd here. While you’re correct about the STL flag colors, the red on the Blues uniforms just doesn’t go. I particularly hated the Keenan-Gretzky era one with the big diagonal triangle of red at the bottom of the sweater. It looked like a cheesy imitation of the Anaheim Ducks sweater bottom. It just didn’t work for me.
BTW, I have a photo of Ben Bishop and Patrick
Maroon in the handshake line after Game 7 of their series in 2019. In the background, one of the Blues cheerleaders is skating by with the St. Louis flag. With Bishop and Maroon both being St. Louisans, it’s a great picture, and I had it blown up and framed in my office.
16:36 when I was a kid, I just thought it was like that bc of the Canadian flag