5:56 You just described the last car I had. A 2007 BMW 328xi. The last week I had that car, it spent all it's milage on the back of a tow truck, as I had it towed from shop to shop in a desperate attempt to find even ONE shop in the Lehigh Valley that isn't afraid to work on BMW's. All three shops I towed it to either said, "we don't work on BMW's" or "we don't have the means to figure out what's wrong with it." The last shop found out what was wrong, but it was going to be $2,000, after spending $300 on towing and over $1,000 over the course of that month for previous breakdowns. I was fed up and told the mechanic, "never mind, I'm just gonna have it scrapped..." He bought it for twice its scrap value. Thankfully, I now have a MUCH more reliable Honda Civic.
5 x 23 = 115...this man has found (so far) 115 of the worst trains ever and not only found but explained their history and problems... If I worked half as much as this in school I would be in college right now. man is a legend 👍👍 keep up the good work darkness!
YES SIR!!! The danish odd balls. Fun fact about them: MY 1201-12021 came about since Frichs (Whom had been a key locomotive builder for DSB for years) were rather pissed when DSB ordered the other MY and the MX from Nohab in Sweden. So, they were allowed t otry and produce a locomotive what would rival the Swedish MY. And, well, you can see how that went
4:28 NSWGR No. 3402's scrapping in 1962 wasn't all in vain. Both hers and the loss of all 58 class (in NSW, the letter before the number in 1924 classifications are never used. As a result, you'll normally find NSW sources referring to steam locomotives as "10 class", "19 class", "32 class" and "60 class") 4-8-2s, this caused the formation of the New South Wales Rail Transport Museum, now named the NSW Rail Museum, in 1963.
Agree with that, they have an already long service life of 35 years and are not yet to be extinct very soon, and do have very good ride characteristics and good seats. I did a return trip Inverness-Kyle of Lochalsh and although a long trip it didn't get uncomfortable, helped by the astonishing beautiful scenery of course.
Just a note to you: the lawnmower was built by the Talyllyn Railway. It was built using a slate wagon for a frame, and the engine out of Tom Rolt’s narrow boat for a power plant. Also if you thought that loco number 5 was crazy, look up their original loco number 7 (nicknamed ‘Charlie’s Ant’)
I love how you can tell that Darkness's sanity is slowly deteriorating with every top ten worst train lists, with the next list, I'm gonna be making a timeline of your deteriorating sanity
The thing with the R46s is they were a "back to basics" design from a mechanical standpoint. A body similar to but not exactly the same as the R44, but with mechanical systems more inline with the older cars. This mindset reached it's peak with the order that followed in the mid to late 1980s, the R68 class, which is mechanically identical to the R10 to R42. one of the more notible changes was the slightly smaller passenger compartment and wider cab in the A cars. R44 has a pair of three seat benches set longitudinally at the number 1 end (outside the cab). R46 removed one of those seats to make room for more cab space for the crew. the cab doors are also MUCH wider the 44s. The issue with the trucks was they were meant for light weight equipment. They were subcontracted to Rockwell International... also known as the people who at the exact same time were building the FREAKING Space Shuttle... They were built without proper testing for the rigors of a 24/7 subway system. These days they are very much showing thier age. The plug door at the nose leaks like no one's business. I am a subway conductor and had to get one of these trains out of the yard after a heavy rain storm... There was enough water on the floor that it was sloshing back and forth. The LCD destination signs, which were installed in the 1990s rebuild, do things like crash, or don't speak to each other. a single console should adjust the entire train, but often times you will have various numbers of cars stuck with the wrong program being displayed. most comonly, one half of the train isn't talking to the other, so I have to jump into the other cab and reset the console there. Or the console in the cab I'm not using is stuck and keeps changing the other signs back. Had that two nights ago. literally the only thing they've got going for them, from my perspective, is the cab size. Everything else... I can't wait for the R211s...
The only thing that the New South Wales Government Railways C-34 got right was the driving wheels. The next 2 class of ten-wheelers (35 + 36) + the C-38 Pacific's (3801) both have the same height drivers. Most subdivisions have 2.5% grades.
My favorite from this list is the James Toleman (Second Place goes to the DSB Class MY) and it thrills me that you included it because I have a big interest in this particular, obscure engine because it actually made it's way to American soil. The Milwaukee Road actually had the James Toleman brought to their rails for trial and it was exhibited twice. First at the Columbian Exposition and then at Purdue University. Another detail about it is that the inventor tried to justify it's poor performance on the coal quality. Whether this was during it's trial is unclear but it is the most likely. So, yes, The James Toleman was the Milwaukee Road's own British engine.
The R46 subway cars and my Ford Pinto must have been designed by the very same person because the very same thing happened to it. It pretty much self destructed the same way the subway cars did.
The rebuilds the R46's had were part of the General Overhaul Program that the MTA conducted in the late 80's and early 90's, which cover the A Division's R26, R28, R29, R33, R33S, R36 (Which are all generally referred to as the Redbirds because they all got painted Red), and B Division's R30 GE, R32, R38, R40, R40A, R42, R44, and R46 train models
The Frichs built class MY 1201 and 1202 weren’t really named Marilyn Monroe and My Fair Lady, it were nicknames given to them by the railway staff, and yes because or the nose bending more out, than the Nohab built Class MY. One piece of the engine room door, still exists, and are on display on the Danish Railway Museum. Sadly DSB never really tried to fix them, if they were given General Motors like the Nohabs, they would preform well and maybe DSB didn’t had to buy the Class Mz (Danish variant of SD40 (Series I and II and SD45 (Series III and IV).
Enjoyable as always .... I guess Rolt's Folly refers to LTC Rolt, author of 'Red for Danger' on famous railway accidents and a founder member of the Tallylyn railway (he wrote about that too but I forget the title).
As a owner of a model T i see no problems of a T engine powering a loco. One just needs to take proper care or you can break said engine quickly. But they can and do last a long time if one knows how.
Quite a number of Model T's (my all time favourite car, incidentally) were converted into railway vehicles - railbuses, light narrow gauge 'locomotives' for the British War department, inspection cars etc. The T's versatility was incredible.
First time you mentioned the Talyllyn Railway on this channel I believe. Rolts Folly I believe was later included into The Railway Series - The book series were Thomas and Friends originated from.
Its funny you mention R46s having 44 trucks. Weirdly the R44 and R46 share a design which made them almost f-ing impossible to tell them apart until they were overhauled and the R44 had this distinct Grey stripe. Its should be noted that R46 are now one of the more realible railcars in the system however they are showing their age. Theyre being replaced by R211-Type Cars
My understanding is that the Webb engines actually worked well once the driver managed to get them moving. But they did have a flaw which meant the driving wheels would end up spinning opposite directions if he was careless. Must have been spectacular though.
Add the Bombardier HR616, it stands for high reliability although on paper it was suppose to be but in reality it doesnt really live up to its name of being highly reliable. They were a nightmare for the CN shop crews to fix
James Toleman was tested on the Milwaukee Road for a few years, along with Baldwin #13350 Columbia. Eventually it was donated to Purdue University in 1901 as an example of what not to do with an engine design. It became one of the first engines to be displayed there. Eventually minds were changed and they saw no educational value to the engine and it was broken up at a Chicago scrapyard around 1914. One article from the time stated it was made of the finest quality material, since it was so well built they needed dynamite to crack the frames and cylinders.
#1 interesting, there is something like that in Train Sim classic and it was brought to the game by caledonia works the London and North Western Greater Britain 2-2-2-2 duplex engines with the front drive axle being powered by the inside cylinders and the rear drive axle powered by the outside cylinders. Its got a bit of speediness too and I've reached around 85 mph with the engine.
Your should do sone kindly of list for the newest steam locomotives. In England, the same group that built Tornado are building a new locomotive, P2, which is going to be a 2-8-4, named Prince of Wales. It's will be the most powerful steam locomotive ever built in the UK.
No waym the NYC subway. You got a picture of the "F" line. I used to commute fr9m Brooklyn to manhatten on that train. If get on at ave-U and MacDonald ave. I used to go to the subway museam in the city all the time.
A bit of missed opportunity with the “Lawnmower” segment; as in the six original narrow gauge engines from Thomas the Tank Engine were actually based off those guys.
As a new Yorker, the R44/46 cars aren't bad, mainly just when they came out for the most part. Now they're just so old that they're falling apart. Not sure if his helps but yeah. Thanks for reading if you did. Edit: the section about cracks and the initial debuting of the R46's this is factual and accurate, same with the part about delays in delivery.
From a passenger perspective the R-44-46 rash of subway cars was the best. In '71-'72 they were the first to have modern suspension, and the difference in both ride and noise level was an extreme contrast. After having the rattan seats of their predecessors torn up with knives and replaced with plastic upholstery as if it would fare better, and finally solid, grey fiberglass stuff, the R-44s were the first to resume with combo lengthwise and crosswise seating designed as a planned outcome, and they made efforts to make it nice, and the scheme has remained for, well... more than 50 years now, and was everyone's favorite till they started deliberate deferred-maintenance-yet-in-regular-service conditioning of the passengers, who - even with the wall-and-chair assembly coming unpinned from the floor with the wall flapping dangerously - or comically - while hanging from the ceiling, and the two lengthwise seats hanging from that, with you on it, it's still our favorite configuration, and vastly preferred over the bigger doors / shorter cars / no seating format of the now all too familiar VERY uniform all blue-or-occasional-Cuomo-color-scheme lot. (Cuomo designs both trains and railroads bet ya didn't know.) The R-44s were also the fastest subway car in the world for a time though I don't know any faster, and were clocked at something like 85mph on the LIRR Main Line before it was upgraded to 750 volts. R-44s, 46es and another later lot were all 75 feet long versus the usual 60' for the B Division, and the length seen from inside is impressive; more so with the door-adjacent glass partitions which were later removed. (wonder why) It's nice to ride in the middle of the car. When they've been recently shopped they're still the best. The patriotic plastic "wallpaper" of tiny city and state seals intermeshed in varying shades of beige was a clever touch: never looks dated. They were among the first to have air conditioning that wasn't retrofitted, noisy and drafty and not exactly cool. They were a big change when they came, and they will be missed. Especially as we're soon entering the Age of Gangways - but it'll finally stop people from surfing on top of the trains if we stick with this nightmarish formula. Better to remove the chain locks they climb on to get up there, and a few other precautions.
The train numbers off the DSB Class MY 1200 serie is a huge insult to the Nederlandse Spoorwegen 1200 series featured in 5 more off the best trains ever part 6.
1:01 I should point out, because I've been watching video by a guy who actually works with heritage railways, including the Talyllyn, that the name is actually pronounced "Tell-a-clin".
@@_molls Welsh is actually a very easy language to read and understand if you just learn the alphabet. But he did butcher the pronunciation of Talyllyn
the james tolman loco looks like it could have done better had the drive system been turned into a standard drive not a duplex type loco as i have to admit she does look nice just the creators tried to be creative and failed. had i been around at this time id have brought the loco and changed it up to be a 4-4-0 tender loco.
Do I see LONDON UNDERGROUND on this? The 83 stock, which weren't so much bad, as cursed with bad luck? Be gentle, because some drivers, even some of the shed guys, are still quite fond of these trains.
we don't hate you.....if we hated you we're make you do a series about the best British Rail locomotives, just to force you to acknowledge that the BR wasn't bad.
The cackle I let out at number 2 lmao. I operate them now (actually had 2 last night), and they're still garbage. Old and garbage Thank god their replacements are coming in soon
The James Coleman was not a Duplex. It was a four cylinder, just like the British four cylinders with two inside driving the front wheels, and two outside driving the second set.
Regarding Divided Drive steam locomotives (the 4-(2-2)-0), none other then De Glehn himself visited Webb and his strange designs, decided they peaked his interest enough to experiment himself and somehow ended up building a version that actually fucking worked. More amazingly still, one of that class of engine is PRESERVED at the Cité du Train in Mulhouse. Webb, on the other hand, also did not stop building Divided Drive classes untill his retirement, and all failed. Mostly spectacularry too. These designs included a 2-2-2-2 type express locomotive, a 2-2-2-2T local and, weirdest of all: a 2-2-4-0T which looks utterly ridiculous and was a total failure.
Yep. although it could be said the "Teutonic" Class and the "Greater Britian" Class were the best of a bad set of jobs, as the Teutonics and Greater Britains were pretty nippy and ecomonical beasts once you got over the starting problems. But anything else? Well, the "Dreadnought" class was more hoplessly inconsistent than bad, but the rest is silence, and really ought to be! (And don't get me started on Frankie boy's 4 cylinder compounds!)
There is also the simple fact that the Pennsylvania Railroad tried a Webb compound, which they regretted. Theirs was a 2-2-2-0, and the master mechanic noted it was supplied without cab. It was not - it did indeed have a cab - or more accurately what passed for one on an English railway, as opposed to the shed on an American engine! One of the French lines - I can't recall if it was the Eastern or Western, also had a very similar engine; both were built in Britain, to plans loaned by Crewe works. Also in England, the London & South Western had a batch of Drummon 'double single' 4-4-0's; I gather they worked reasonably well and, eventually, were rebuilt as conventional 4-4-0's.
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro Ah, the Drummond double singles. They were not too bad, but suffered a little by the effort being a little out of sync, and small fireboxes. As divided drive engines go, pretty fair - but they were better as true 4-4-0's.
IC4 isn’t the same, compared to 1201 and 02. Unlike them, IC4 runs, and are way less out of service than the 1201 and 02 was. They probably only ran 2 days before breaking down, the twins spent more time on works being fixed, than IC4s.
5:30 Given that Marilyn Monroe was actually a complete slob (for example, there would be food literally in her bed), the name was even more appropriate than they knew.
10:30: A 4-1-1-0? I think you mean 4-2-2-0. I once saw a steam locomotive that was legitimately a 0-3-0. It was a monorail with double-flanged driving wheels.
At least you were able to get through this episode with mentioning "The Railroad That Shall NOT Be Named"...
This is the best worst trains list ever it has nothing to with BR
5:56 You just described the last car I had. A 2007 BMW 328xi. The last week I had that car, it spent all it's milage on the back of a tow truck, as I had it towed from shop to shop in a desperate attempt to find even ONE shop in the Lehigh Valley that isn't afraid to work on BMW's. All three shops I towed it to either said, "we don't work on BMW's" or "we don't have the means to figure out what's wrong with it."
The last shop found out what was wrong, but it was going to be $2,000, after spending $300 on towing and over $1,000 over the course of that month for previous breakdowns.
I was fed up and told the mechanic, "never mind, I'm just gonna have it scrapped..." He bought it for twice its scrap value.
Thankfully, I now have a MUCH more reliable Honda Civic.
5 x 23 = 115...this man has found (so far) 115 of the worst trains ever and not only found but explained their history and problems... If I worked half as much as this in school I would be in college right now. man is a legend 👍👍 keep up the good work darkness!
Well said.
YES SIR!!! The danish odd balls. Fun fact about them:
MY 1201-12021 came about since Frichs (Whom had been a key locomotive builder for DSB for years) were rather pissed when DSB ordered the other MY and the MX from Nohab in Sweden. So, they were allowed t otry and produce a locomotive what would rival the Swedish MY. And, well, you can see how that went
Well, Nohab got the MX right... they had the foresight to use EMD prime movers.
WE GOT TO PART 23 FOLKS!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, we got -‘em- *it*
Obviously we need #24, can’t quite while so close to 2 dozen!
4:28 NSWGR No. 3402's scrapping in 1962 wasn't all in vain. Both hers and the loss of all 58 class (in NSW, the letter before the number in 1924 classifications are never used. As a result, you'll normally find NSW sources referring to steam locomotives as "10 class", "19 class", "32 class" and "60 class") 4-8-2s, this caused the formation of the New South Wales Rail Transport Museum, now named the NSW Rail Museum, in 1963.
Next week he really feels the pain. That is when he does Top 50 worst British Railway locomotives.
Next time you do a Best Trains Ever list, include the BR Class 158, one of the best DMUs around in the UK
Agree with that, they have an already long service life of 35 years and are not yet to be extinct very soon, and do have very good ride characteristics and good seats.
I did a return trip Inverness-Kyle of Lochalsh and although a long trip it didn't get uncomfortable, helped by the astonishing beautiful scenery of course.
Ah, yes. They run the express trains on my local line. Their refurbished interiors are pretty nice!
I don't know about that. I found them to be appallingly unreliable on the Trans-Pennine duties, it might just be a case of YMMV.
@@robertwilloughby8050 are you thinking of the class 185s? Those are the transpennine express ones.
@@awesomealbertt1150 The 158 handled the service between the last loco hauled Trans-Pennine duties in 1991 to the arrival of the 185's in 2006.
Just a note to you: the lawnmower was built by the Talyllyn Railway. It was built using a slate wagon for a frame, and the engine out of Tom Rolt’s narrow boat for a power plant. Also if you thought that loco number 5 was crazy, look up their original loco number 7 (nicknamed ‘Charlie’s Ant’)
Another enlightening video, keep it up
I love how you can tell that Darkness's sanity is slowly deteriorating with every top ten worst train lists, with the next list, I'm gonna be making a timeline of your deteriorating sanity
*five
We don’t hate you josh we love your content.
Why not make a second list of Five Worst Cars Ever? You had the AMC Gremlin, the Yugo GV, the DMC DeLorean, the Pontiac Aztek, etcetera.
The thing with the R46s is they were a "back to basics" design from a mechanical standpoint. A body similar to but not exactly the same as the R44, but with mechanical systems more inline with the older cars. This mindset reached it's peak with the order that followed in the mid to late 1980s, the R68 class, which is mechanically identical to the R10 to R42.
one of the more notible changes was the slightly smaller passenger compartment and wider cab in the A cars. R44 has a pair of three seat benches set longitudinally at the number 1 end (outside the cab). R46 removed one of those seats to make room for more cab space for the crew. the cab doors are also MUCH wider the 44s.
The issue with the trucks was they were meant for light weight equipment. They were subcontracted to Rockwell International... also known as the people who at the exact same time were building the FREAKING Space Shuttle... They were built without proper testing for the rigors of a 24/7 subway system.
These days they are very much showing thier age. The plug door at the nose leaks like no one's business.
I am a subway conductor and had to get one of these trains out of the yard after a heavy rain storm... There was enough water on the floor that it was sloshing back and forth.
The LCD destination signs, which were installed in the 1990s rebuild, do things like crash, or don't speak to each other. a single console should adjust the entire train, but often times you will have various numbers of cars stuck with the wrong program being displayed. most comonly, one half of the train isn't talking to the other, so I have to jump into the other cab and reset the console there. Or the console in the cab I'm not using is stuck and keeps changing the other signs back. Had that two nights ago.
literally the only thing they've got going for them, from my perspective, is the cab size. Everything else... I can't wait for the R211s...
The only thing that the New South Wales Government Railways C-34 got right was the driving wheels. The next 2 class of ten-wheelers (35 + 36) + the C-38 Pacific's (3801) both have the same height drivers. Most subdivisions have 2.5% grades.
My favorite from this list is the James Toleman (Second Place goes to the DSB Class MY) and it thrills me that you included it because I have a big interest in this particular, obscure engine because it actually made it's way to American soil. The Milwaukee Road actually had the James Toleman brought to their rails for trial and it was exhibited twice. First at the Columbian Exposition and then at Purdue University. Another detail about it is that the inventor tried to justify it's poor performance on the coal quality. Whether this was during it's trial is unclear but it is the most likely. So, yes, The James Toleman was the Milwaukee Road's own British engine.
Complements. You absolutely nailed the pronunciation of Newcastle - like a native. Most Brits don't get it right, either.
But utterly failed on Tal-y-llyn.
The R46 subway cars and my Ford Pinto must have been designed by the very same person because the very same thing happened to it. It pretty much self destructed the same way the subway cars did.
If ur up 4 a challenge, u could do a "5 of the best British Rail locomotives" list.
9F, HST, Deltic, Hymek, 4REP (legally a locomotive because #weirdreasons)
The rebuilds the R46's had were part of the General Overhaul Program that the MTA conducted in the late 80's and early 90's, which cover the A Division's R26, R28, R29, R33, R33S, R36 (Which are all generally referred to as the Redbirds because they all got painted Red), and B Division's R30 GE, R32, R38, R40, R40A, R42, R44, and R46 train models
The Frichs built class MY 1201 and 1202 weren’t really named Marilyn Monroe and My Fair Lady, it were nicknames given to them by the railway staff, and yes because or the nose bending more out, than the Nohab built Class MY. One piece of the engine room door, still exists, and are on display on the Danish Railway Museum.
Sadly DSB never really tried to fix them, if they were given General Motors like the Nohabs, they would preform well and maybe DSB didn’t had to buy the Class Mz (Danish variant of SD40 (Series I and II and SD45 (Series III and IV).
Suggestion: Bombardier MR-63 & MR-73 “Montreal Metro”
You should do a series based on the disasters in RTC Rolt's red for danger. An amazing read.
Man went from being the curse to being cursed. The Discord is the real curse 😂
Enjoyable as always .... I guess Rolt's Folly refers to LTC Rolt, author of 'Red for Danger' on famous railway accidents and a founder member of the Tallylyn railway (he wrote about that too but I forget the title).
As a owner of a model T i see no problems of a T engine powering a loco. One just needs to take proper care or you can break said engine quickly. But they can and do last a long time if one knows how.
Quite a number of Model T's (my all time favourite car, incidentally) were converted into railway vehicles - railbuses, light narrow gauge 'locomotives' for the British War department, inspection cars etc. The T's versatility was incredible.
Need another issue of "Bad trains that were (mostly) fixed and became descent.
First time you mentioned the Talyllyn Railway on this channel I believe. Rolts Folly I believe was later included into The Railway Series - The book series were Thomas and Friends originated from.
Actually he named it in the preservation video
History In The Dark: *makes worst trains ever*
Fans: *that was his first mistake*
Its funny you mention R46s having 44 trucks. Weirdly the R44 and R46 share a design which made them almost f-ing impossible to tell them apart until they were overhauled and the R44 had this distinct Grey stripe.
Its should be noted that R46 are now one of the more realible railcars in the system however they are showing their age. Theyre being replaced by R211-Type Cars
My understanding is that the Webb engines actually worked well once the driver managed to get them moving. But they did have a flaw which meant the driving wheels would end up spinning opposite directions if he was careless. Must have been spectacular though.
Thanks!
Add the Bombardier HR616, it stands for high reliability although on paper it was suppose to be but in reality it doesnt really live up to its name of being highly reliable. They were a nightmare for the CN shop crews to fix
Cool video bro!
Do you think you can talk about a Maltese train next?
I would hope he can. There really was a Malta Railway = sadly all that remains of it, apart from roadbed, is a grounded coach body.
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro yeah... It would be nice...
It would also help him become the "mister would wide" of trains.
Did not expect a subway car to be in the worst locomotives
You ain’t running out of ideas anytime soon
You talked about the Blackhawk prototype attack helicopter not too long ago, the C130 definitely needs it's own vid.
James Toleman was tested on the Milwaukee Road for a few years, along with Baldwin #13350 Columbia. Eventually it was donated to Purdue University in 1901 as an example of what not to do with an engine design. It became one of the first engines to be displayed there. Eventually minds were changed and they saw no educational value to the engine and it was broken up at a Chicago scrapyard around 1914. One article from the time stated it was made of the finest quality material, since it was so well built they needed dynamite to crack the frames and cylinders.
On a side note it is the only engine from the original Purdue collection to not survive into the 21st century.
Should do a series on the worst British Rail trains ever.
#1 interesting, there is something like that in Train Sim classic and it was brought to the game by caledonia works the London and North Western Greater Britain 2-2-2-2 duplex engines with the front drive axle being powered by the inside cylinders and the rear drive axle powered by the outside cylinders. Its got a bit of speediness too and I've reached around 85 mph with the engine.
Do another list of steam locomotives that almost survived, but didn’t. You’d love to talk about the stories of Illinois Central 2613 and GWR 2861
Your should do sone kindly of list for the newest steam locomotives. In England, the same group that built Tornado are building a new locomotive, P2, which is going to be a 2-8-4, named Prince of Wales. It's will be the most powerful steam locomotive ever built in the UK.
Are they planning a bigger firebox than the original P2 2-8-2. Or maybe not.
It won't end till I see the CN SD60F end up on some kind of list
I can't wait for #24
Can't wait for worst trains ever part 75
Darkness, you can’t complain about making these videos. I bet you truly enjoy it. Also, as a bonus, BR did NOT make an appearance!
I laughed hysterically all through this the acid and the way you talk wow
You know… There is still quite a bit of material left in British Rail alone!
my favorite locomotive of the DSB is still the Traktor 57 I like this little orange two-axle switcher.😁🇩🇰
No waym the NYC subway. You got a picture of the "F" line. I used to commute fr9m Brooklyn to manhatten on that train. If get on at ave-U and MacDonald ave. I used to go to the subway museam in the city all the time.
A bit of missed opportunity with the “Lawnmower” segment; as in the six original narrow gauge engines from Thomas the Tank Engine were actually based off those guys.
“My name is Darkness, and I am Cursed.”
As a new Yorker, the R44/46 cars aren't bad, mainly just when they came out for the most part. Now they're just so old that they're falling apart. Not sure if his helps but yeah. Thanks for reading if you did.
Edit: the section about cracks and the initial debuting of the R46's this is factual and accurate, same with the part about delays in delivery.
Finally, he does a Subway Train!!!!!
The R46 - A New Yorker running on crack. Colour me surprised.
From a passenger perspective the R-44-46 rash of subway cars was the best. In '71-'72 they were the first to have modern suspension, and the difference in both ride and noise level was an extreme contrast. After having the rattan seats of their predecessors torn up with knives and replaced with plastic upholstery as if it would fare better, and finally solid, grey fiberglass stuff, the R-44s were the first to resume with combo lengthwise and crosswise seating designed as a planned outcome, and they made efforts to make it nice, and the scheme has remained for, well... more than 50 years now, and was everyone's favorite till they started deliberate deferred-maintenance-yet-in-regular-service conditioning of the passengers, who - even with the wall-and-chair assembly coming unpinned from the floor with the wall flapping dangerously - or comically - while hanging from the ceiling, and the two lengthwise seats hanging from that, with you on it, it's still our favorite configuration, and vastly preferred over the bigger doors / shorter cars / no seating format of the now all too familiar VERY uniform all blue-or-occasional-Cuomo-color-scheme lot. (Cuomo designs both trains and railroads bet ya didn't know.)
The R-44s were also the fastest subway car in the world for a time though I don't know any faster, and were clocked at something like 85mph on the LIRR Main Line before it was upgraded to 750 volts. R-44s, 46es and another later lot were all 75 feet long versus the usual 60' for the B Division, and the length seen from inside is impressive; more so with the door-adjacent glass partitions which were later removed. (wonder why) It's nice to ride in the middle of the car. When they've been recently shopped they're still the best. The patriotic plastic "wallpaper" of tiny city and state seals intermeshed in varying shades of beige was a clever touch: never looks dated. They were among the first to have air conditioning that wasn't retrofitted, noisy and drafty and not exactly cool. They were a big change when they came, and they will be missed. Especially as we're soon entering the Age of Gangways - but it'll finally stop people from surfing on top of the trains if we stick with this nightmarish formula. Better to remove the chain locks they climb on to get up there, and a few other precautions.
The train numbers off the
DSB Class MY 1200 serie is a huge insult to the Nederlandse Spoorwegen 1200 series featured in 5 more off the best trains ever part 6.
Yw- from Ur discord server. Also how could you put the lawnmower here ;-;
1 video for every year since 2000!
I was entertained.
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Another one for the list, the IHB SW1500s
1:01 I should point out, because I've been watching video by a guy who actually works with heritage railways, including the Talyllyn, that the name is actually pronounced "Tell-a-clin".
I hate words that sound radically different than what they look like
Like there's supposed to be a "Q" in the pronunciation, wtf??
@@_molls the reason is simple….Wales.
Ngl can’t argue with a country that has a dragon on its flag
@@_molls Welsh is actually a very easy language to read and understand if you just learn the alphabet. But he did butcher the pronunciation of Talyllyn
@@_molls English has plenty of words like that. Such as "yacht". Just accept that it's how language works.
@@_molls A "C", not a "Q".
YOUR SUFFERING SHALL NEVER END!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Did you do a worst trains episode with the NSWGR 41 Class locomotive?
the james tolman loco looks like it could have done better had the drive system been turned into a standard drive not a duplex type loco as i have to admit she does look nice just the creators tried to be creative and failed.
had i been around at this time id have brought the loco and changed it up to be a 4-4-0 tender loco.
Do I see LONDON UNDERGROUND on this? The 83 stock, which weren't so much bad, as cursed with bad luck? Be gentle, because some drivers, even some of the shed guys, are still quite fond of these trains.
Oh man I miss the "hoo-WOOT!" between items!
Me too
Your suffering will never end. 😂
we don't hate you.....if we hated you we're make you do a series about the best British Rail locomotives, just to force you to acknowledge that the BR wasn't bad.
Funny thing, i was on an NSWGR C32 class today
The C32 was the excellent long lasting numerous locomotives. When they tried to upscale them into a C34 then numerous problems arose.
Well here we go folks
We need to get the worst trains ever series up to 666 installents- for reasons
I see R46, I immediately clicked this video 🎉
You dig yourself in this hole, bro
The James Toleman loco, which clearly dates from back when railways were deathly allergic to the idea of connecting rods
Sad thing is it got retrofitted with connecting rods (making it a 4cyl divided drive) it may have improved the handling
I’d rather have MY back than have to ride IC4 for another year.
Just a quick FYI, Talyllyn is pronounced "Tal-lee-THlin." The double Ls make a throaty "TH" sound in Welsh.
I've found a channel by a guy who actually works on that railway. He pronounces it "Tell-a-clin".
@@anzaca1 Aye, that's likely more accurate. It's similar sound.
hey look at the bright side
no British Rail for once XD
The cackle I let out at number 2 lmao. I operate them now (actually had 2 last night), and they're still garbage. Old and garbage
Thank god their replacements are coming in soon
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It's talyllyn (taly-k-lyn). Americans always gets it wrong. Now I'm not good at spelling but the ll is silent. Manley due to the name being Welsh.
Wow another terrible trains list without BR coming in and stinking it up. Guess this means the curse is broken 😏
"NUTSON"
The James Coleman was not a Duplex. It was a four cylinder, just like the British four cylinders with two inside driving the front wheels, and two outside driving the second set.
The correct term would be Divided Drive, since the 4 cylinders were split in pairs that did not function together.
How do you feel about Norwegian locomotives?
Regarding Divided Drive steam locomotives (the 4-(2-2)-0), none other then De Glehn himself visited Webb and his strange designs, decided they peaked his interest enough to experiment himself and somehow ended up building a version that actually fucking worked. More amazingly still, one of that class of engine is PRESERVED at the Cité du Train in Mulhouse.
Webb, on the other hand, also did not stop building Divided Drive classes untill his retirement, and all failed. Mostly spectacularry too. These designs included a 2-2-2-2 type express locomotive, a 2-2-2-2T local and, weirdest of all: a 2-2-4-0T which looks utterly ridiculous and was a total failure.
Yep. although it could be said the "Teutonic" Class and the "Greater Britian" Class were the best of a bad set of jobs, as the Teutonics and Greater Britains were pretty nippy and ecomonical beasts once you got over the starting problems. But anything else? Well, the "Dreadnought" class was more hoplessly inconsistent than bad, but the rest is silence, and really ought to be! (And don't get me started on Frankie boy's 4 cylinder compounds!)
There is also the simple fact that the Pennsylvania Railroad tried a Webb compound, which they regretted. Theirs was a 2-2-2-0, and the master mechanic noted it was supplied without cab. It was not - it did indeed have a cab - or more accurately what passed for one on an English railway, as opposed to the shed on an American engine! One of the French lines - I can't recall if it was the Eastern or Western, also had a very similar engine; both were built in Britain, to plans loaned by Crewe works. Also in England, the London & South Western had a batch of Drummon 'double single' 4-4-0's; I gather they worked reasonably well and, eventually, were rebuilt as conventional 4-4-0's.
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro Ah, the Drummond double singles. They were not too bad, but suffered a little by the effort being a little out of sync, and small fireboxes. As divided drive engines go, pretty fair - but they were better as true 4-4-0's.
DSB MY 1201&1202 bad, DSB IC4 hold my Faxe lager !
IC4 isn’t the same, compared to 1201 and 02. Unlike them, IC4 runs, and are way less out of service than the 1201 and 02 was. They probably only ran 2 days before breaking down, the twins spent more time on works being fixed, than IC4s.
I said more wagr not nswgr lol
when will we run out of trains ??
5:30 Given that Marilyn Monroe was actually a complete slob (for example, there would be food literally in her bed), the name was even more appropriate than they knew.
B&W should just build ship engines, not train engines.
10:30: A 4-1-1-0? I think you mean 4-2-2-0. I once saw a steam locomotive that was legitimately a 0-3-0. It was a monorail with double-flanged driving wheels.
I definitely meant 4-2-2-0. My bad.
Huh, no British Rail locos
lol
32s were peak, 34s were shit
hey you dodged british rail this time
Talyllyn funny, listen to some LMM and hear how to sayTalyllyn
🤓erm ackshually talyllyn is pronunced tale qlin🤓