3:07 Fun fact: in every rerun after they replaced the Yamamoto score with the Kikuchi score, that line ended up being retroactively uncensored on Nicktoons
I'll never object to having an edited down/more kid friendly version of Dragon Ball for TV networks as long as an uncut version exists. The Nicktoons version may not be the ideal way to watch, but I'm sure a lot of kids were able to get into Dragon Ball that way, and that's totally a good thing. And besides that, as numerous as the edits were, Funimation really went for the bare minimum changes there. They didn't alter music or completely change character motivations, they tried to be as faithful as they could within the limitations the network gave them. They had faith in the original work, and did everything they could to preserve that- Something other studios (mostly 4Kids at that point in time) really could've learned from.
I'm actually surprised they made the dub censor the beer can given that Goku ends up rejecting the drink. You'd think Nick would like to have the message of hey look, Goku the hero doesn't drink beer and neither should you.
Nicktoon should have never censore the beer. Bruh, it is Goku lowkey teaching the kids not to drink beer and instead drink a better alternative after an intense exercise.
While I do ultimately prefer the uncensored version, I have to admit it is fun listening to the them try to find ways to censor themselves while keeping the same dialogue.
Just understand that on the Japanese broadcast version of Kai Yamamoto’s music was used up to episode 95 episode 96 to episode 99 were the first episodes in Japan to have Kikuchi’s music
It's funny how the censored version is more creative when it comes to the dialogue, like for example there are multiple ways they censored "damn it" instead of always using "darn it" It makes the uncensored seem pretty repetitive in comparison especially when played back this closely to each other.
Yeah I felt the uncut dub kinda overdid swearing (moreso the actual swear words than the kinda half family friendly "damn") like the show is still supposed to be for kids even if old enough to handle some mild swearing, I'm guessing they added all the extra swearing not in the Japanese script to get a more mature rating to keep things uncut and justify playing the show on adult swim but like, they could just realise teens are their own demographic already.
@@xenencross1717 I really think they were trying to keep the uncut version going because they don't swear that much in the games, though damn could be argued to not really be a swear word outside of the states.
Hello, I'm from Latin America to do the dubbing of DBZ Kai here they used the English dubbing as a reference but the problem was that they used the Nicktoons version so it was full of censorship and changed dialogues and the worst thing is that here we never had an uncut version like if you have
Do you know which ones specifically are censored, I know epispde 1 is uncut, then stopped after watching 3 because I didn't want to go through episode by episode to find out which ones are uncut and which ones arent
as cathartic as it was to actually hear them swear after watching the nicktoons version as a kid, they do use the word "bastard" a whole lot in this arc in particular lmao. really interesting to see the censorship isn't nearly as bad as i had assumed
I love the NickToons version of DBZ Kai. Sure, it's censored, but it's somehow still really good. I actually prefer a few of the dialogue changes as well. And I'd still rather watch it than the uncut dub of Z since this is still technically more manga accurate.
I wish the people who have *never watched* Kai, realize that this is the censored version. Because people who usually talk smack, are people who have never even watched Kai. Only through clips without context.
@@Ealais76 bwaaahahaha thanks kiddo I needed a good laugh! Tell me you have a crappy taste in music without telling me you have a crappy taste in music 😂😂
The only reason I put up with DBZ Kai on Nicktoons was because it was the only DB content airing on television. It should gone strictly to Toonami first.
You have to remember, Toonami was cancelled and off the air by the time Kai was brought over to america. For sure Toonami would’ve picked it up if it wasn’t cancelled.
Imagine having to do two sets of voice dubbing scripts for one anime. One for uncut and one for a certain cartoon channel. Also, imagine Vegeta's VA having to dub the dialogue for two versions of the same show. Pity they couldn't put DBZ Kai on Nick's teen channel (they could have an anime block like Toonami) to handle less censored English dubs.
18:43 - A swear? Was "sh*t" being said here? If so, that's uncalled for. I haven't heard that word used in the dubs. Is that really what Guldo said, or is that a different word that he says?
I remember watching the Nicktoons broadcast of dbz Kai after toonami was removed from Cartoon Network from 2008-2011 . And yes FCC regulations in the USA Etc but good memories in high school
The nicktoons edit really isn't that bad but I'm curious as to why they censored Ricoombs butt. Dialogue does get across the same message. Still I wonder what the changes are vs the Japanese sub that I'm used to as event hen Funi had some odd changes to the english dub for the uncut version
It is, actually, but what constitutes a kid show in America and Japan is very different. In any case, the show's generally aimed at a young (kid to teen) audience, so having it put in a daytime/afternoon slot on a channel that aired cartoons is a no-brainier. It's the same reason Dragon Ball Z, and plenty other anime, aired on Cartoon Network's Toonami block. It's the best place/time for it to get stellar ratings, reach a wide audience, and market the franchise's toys/video games to viewers.
Yes, that's right, in Germany it was the same in a channel that used to show anime. At a certain point, they started censoring them to make it more kid-friendly. But they should just stop censoring. There are exceptions, but the makers of a series had themselves to blame. And if they notice that it's far too brutal, then it only shows late in the evening and not in the morning or afternoon where little kids might be able to watch. So DragonBall is not suitable for children because of the brutality and swear words and that should have been considered before putting it on a kids program.
@@Zonefire15 They have to adhere to whatever policies they have in place, otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to air the show. As long as an uncut version exists, there's not much of an issue in them putting together a broadcast cut for TV. Cartoon Network censored plenty of anime too when they ran on their old Toonami block. Not to this degree, but still.
I agree that it should've been established that dbz (as well as db and dbgt) were not meant for kids. Maybe it's because not a lot of people in the past didn't watch a lot of anime. I'm probably wrong since I didn't know any adults in my childhood that still watch cartoons/anime and all the adults I was surrounded with thought it was just for kids, including my mom. Had she known the truth, she would've actually kept me from watching Adult Swim when I was a kid.
Kai: "I'm going to kill you!"
Nicktoons: ""I'm going to deal with you first hand!"
3:07 Fun fact: in every rerun after they replaced the Yamamoto score with the Kikuchi score, that line ended up being retroactively uncensored on Nicktoons
Yeah, oddly enough, they changed around some lines for Nicktoons after the music change. Censored some, uncensored others.
Despite all the censorship, it honestly wasn't that bad a watch on Nicktoons.
Agreed.
I'll never object to having an edited down/more kid friendly version of Dragon Ball for TV networks as long as an uncut version exists. The Nicktoons version may not be the ideal way to watch, but I'm sure a lot of kids were able to get into Dragon Ball that way, and that's totally a good thing.
And besides that, as numerous as the edits were, Funimation really went for the bare minimum changes there. They didn't alter music or completely change character motivations, they tried to be as faithful as they could within the limitations the network gave them. They had faith in the original work, and did everything they could to preserve that- Something other studios (mostly 4Kids at that point in time) really could've learned from.
I'm actually surprised they made the dub censor the beer can given that Goku ends up rejecting the drink. You'd think Nick would like to have the message of hey look, Goku the hero doesn't drink beer and neither should you.
Lowkey love to have the drink he picked instead to be one of the fictional drink brands from other shows like Purple Flurp from Jimmy Neutron.
Vegeta's rage when he finds out the Dragon Balls have been stolen sounds so much better in the censored cut.
Nicktoon should have never censore the beer. Bruh, it is Goku lowkey teaching the kids not to drink beer and instead drink a better alternative after an intense exercise.
FR even the Ocean Dub kept the Beer in.
Yep just like this
Goku: "yuck, not beer, too bitter, ah that's the spot, a nice sports drink to quench my thirst, tasty, and good for me!"
While I do ultimately prefer the uncensored version, I have to admit it is fun listening to the them try to find ways to censor themselves while keeping the same dialogue.
Can't Wait for Nicktoons Censorship in the Cell Saga of DBZ Kai
Same Here!!!
Not perfection
Can't wait for Episode 98.
Can't wait for ep 95 a hero's farewell
Just understand that on the Japanese broadcast version of Kai Yamamoto’s music was used up to episode 95 episode 96 to episode 99 were the first episodes in Japan to have Kikuchi’s music
It's funny how the censored version is more creative when it comes to the dialogue, like for example there are multiple ways they censored "damn it" instead of always using "darn it"
It makes the uncensored seem pretty repetitive in comparison especially when played back this closely to each other.
Yeah. I actually like the NickToons version a lot even though the uncut version is better.
Yeah I felt the uncut dub kinda overdid swearing (moreso the actual swear words than the kinda half family friendly "damn") like the show is still supposed to be for kids even if old enough to handle some mild swearing, I'm guessing they added all the extra swearing not in the Japanese script to get a more mature rating to keep things uncut and justify playing the show on adult swim but like, they could just realise teens are their own demographic already.
I was thinking the same thing. Some of those edited lines fit more than the swearing.
Not even Naruto Uncut overused the word "damn" because it wasn't trying to be overly edgy.
@@xenencross1717 I really think they were trying to keep the uncut version going because they don't swear that much in the games, though damn could be argued to not really be a swear word outside of the states.
12:55 "You will pay!!!!" sounds even more terrifying
Sabat's delivery sounds better too.
so glad to have grown up with uncensored and bruce falconer ost
Hello, I'm from Latin America to do the dubbing of DBZ Kai here they used the English dubbing as a reference but the problem was that they used the Nicktoons version so it was full of censorship and changed dialogues and the worst thing is that here we never had an uncut version like if you have
The og with Mario Castañeda is just straight up better in everyway.
As a reminder, some of the Nicktoons edited episodes are on Hulu, so it's a bit inconsistent that not every Kai episode on Hulu are all uncut
Do you know which ones specifically are censored, I know epispde 1 is uncut, then stopped after watching 3 because I didn't want to go through episode by episode to find out which ones are uncut and which ones arent
Only ones I watched in hulu was the buu saga
as cathartic as it was to actually hear them swear after watching the nicktoons version as a kid, they do use the word "bastard" a whole lot in this arc in particular lmao. really interesting to see the censorship isn't nearly as bad as i had assumed
Nicktoons version of Vegeta’s wrath is better than the uncut version, no cap. Has always sounded way better to me.
Where's the DAMN fourth Dragon Ball?!
I love the NickToons version of DBZ Kai. Sure, it's censored, but it's somehow still really good. I actually prefer a few of the dialogue changes as well. And I'd still rather watch it than the uncut dub of Z since this is still technically more manga accurate.
Same here.
18:59 Not gonna lie, that edit might be more brutal from a certain POV. You don't even get to see the head in frame.
3:15
I'm sorry but I'm loosing it at that schedule moment 🤣
I wish the people who have *never watched* Kai, realize that this is the censored version. Because people who usually talk smack, are people who have never even watched Kai. Only through clips without context.
Kai still sucks without the Faulconer tracks and with those new voices
@@rcdune7132nah you’re just not a real dragon ball fan
@@Arteaga4K haaaaa sit down kiddo
@@rcdune7132falconer tracks are ass
@@Ealais76 bwaaahahaha thanks kiddo I needed a good laugh! Tell me you have a crappy taste in music without telling me you have a crappy taste in music 😂😂
This infamous scene at 12:49 is when vegeta says “DAMN IT ALL” but instead it’s YOU WILL PAYYYYYYYYY at 12:55
The only reason I put up with DBZ Kai on Nicktoons was because it was the only DB content airing on television. It should gone strictly to Toonami first.
They most likely prioritized attracting a new generation of kids first.
That and by 2010 Toonami had been off the air for about 2 years. @@cnsayin8847
You have to remember, Toonami was cancelled and off the air by the time Kai was brought over to america. For sure Toonami would’ve picked it up if it wasn’t cancelled.
I can’t wait for the Android and cell saga changes
i have a question when are going to do dragon ball z censorship on cartoon network like later namek saga and other sagas
Definitely in the plans!
Great job and keep it up From,Gabe and way to go!
Imagine having to do two sets of voice dubbing scripts for one anime. One for uncut and one for a certain cartoon channel. Also, imagine Vegeta's VA having to dub the dialogue for two versions of the same show.
Pity they couldn't put DBZ Kai on Nick's teen channel (they could have an anime block like Toonami) to handle less censored English dubs.
Hulu has TV broadcast too.
Sad part is, the 4kids version was even more censored
14:55 they done censored the sayian ass
18:43 - A swear? Was "sh*t" being said here? If so, that's uncalled for. I haven't heard that word used in the dubs. Is that really what Guldo said, or is that a different word that he says?
It’s most definitely “shit.” If it wasn’t, there wouldn’t be a need to change it.
Nicktoons: no beer allowed
Also Nicktoons: let's have beer party
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9:30-9:45 I just noticed that the music cues in earlier in the censored scene, probably to accommodate for the cut shots.
Wasn't Kai supposed to be the edited version of the regular Anime?? This here is like Tien calling Vegeta a Super Duper Saiyan.
8:22 Is Frieza instead implying he'd destroy Namek?
Wow, I like how they switch up the scripts. The revised version seemed a lot better to me than being always plain.
I remember watching the Nicktoons broadcast of dbz Kai after toonami was removed from Cartoon Network from 2008-2011 . And yes FCC regulations in the USA Etc but good memories in high school
I forgot damn is considered a curse word
I grew up with the Nicktoons version and I really don’t mind it and actually prefer some of the dialogue changes
This show's edits always looked liked it wanted to push certain things but had to change it last minute.
At 6:29, why did Nick's version say 'I'm not gonna die' when earlier and later they were trying to censor concept of 'death'?
he says it's a dialogue error, they must've switched the two lines by accident before release and never caught it
The nicktoons edit really isn't that bad but I'm curious as to why they censored Ricoombs butt. Dialogue does get across the same message. Still I wonder what the changes are vs the Japanese sub that I'm used to as event hen Funi had some odd changes to the english dub for the uncut version
I prefer NickToons Kai to the uncut version of Z's dub.
It was so weird seeing dbz/kai on cartoon network and nicktoons 😂
Lol! “Pedo Vegeta” killed me
Do “Naruto”, Pt. 2, then the cell saga.
I feel like there was more swearing in dbz kai than in the original dbz
Glad Nicktoons didn't dialog DBZ Kakarot lol.
10:20 They actually bothered the change the "pedo" Vegeta scene here?!
Yeah!
can you make a boruto guide movies and filler
Would you be able to upload "How Funimation censored Dragon Ball on Toonami"?
Did guldo actually say shit 😂
Good one
Let’s goo
Honestly people should understand when something isn’t for kids, don’t make it for kids, censoring of blood looked terrible
Like 4kids with One Piece
I wouldn’t know the difference bc I watched it in Arabic on spacetoon
Dragonball Z Kai was better on Toonami
All except Nicktoons Kai intro is better.
vegeta saying heck..? that feels so damn wrong
Really Nicktoons what’s wrong 😑 with saying the word Jerk
There's nothing wrong with jerk at all. And when it comes to mentioning life or death, that is censored too for whatever reason.
I do not remember Jeice's voice being that grating.
Abridged > Kai
As if cencering helps kids not the swear, they will still learn how to swear, this was a pointless effort in all honesty, i still prefer the original.
That's like saying someone will learn about guns eventually so we might as well let them have a gun now
Nicktoons sure messed it up.
I really hate kid Gohan voice in the Kai version 😡
For the last time DBZ is not for kids. Why in the hell was this series on a kids channel?
It is, actually, but what constitutes a kid show in America and Japan is very different. In any case, the show's generally aimed at a young (kid to teen) audience, so having it put in a daytime/afternoon slot on a channel that aired cartoons is a no-brainier. It's the same reason Dragon Ball Z, and plenty other anime, aired on Cartoon Network's Toonami block. It's the best place/time for it to get stellar ratings, reach a wide audience, and market the franchise's toys/video games to viewers.
Yes, that's right, in Germany it was the same in a channel that used to show anime. At a certain point, they started censoring them to make it more kid-friendly. But they should just stop censoring. There are exceptions, but the makers of a series had themselves to blame. And if they notice that it's far too brutal, then it only shows late in the evening and not in the morning or afternoon where little kids might be able to watch. So DragonBall is not suitable for children because of the brutality and swear words and that should have been considered before putting it on a kids program.
@DB-Z-GT-SUPER-CHANNEL a lot of channels like Nickelodeon and 4Kids try way too hard when it comes to censoring.
@@Zonefire15 They have to adhere to whatever policies they have in place, otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to air the show. As long as an uncut version exists, there's not much of an issue in them putting together a broadcast cut for TV. Cartoon Network censored plenty of anime too when they ran on their old Toonami block. Not to this degree, but still.
I agree that it should've been established that dbz (as well as db and dbgt) were not meant for kids. Maybe it's because not a lot of people in the past didn't watch a lot of anime. I'm probably wrong since I didn't know any adults in my childhood that still watch cartoons/anime and all the adults I was surrounded with thought it was just for kids, including my mom. Had she known the truth, she would've actually kept me from watching Adult Swim when I was a kid.