Piaggio MP3 Sport 300 | The Easiest Way To Commute
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- I ride the three wheeled Piaggio MP3 Sport 300. A scooter with a difference, the Piaggio MP3 has three wheels, so is actually classed as a trike. Is this the easiest way to commute?
With the front wheels being a certain distance apart, you can ride it with just a car licence. A practical solution to your commuting problems in the city, all of the benefits of a motorcycle but with the added safety of three wheels.
Great for filtering and stable in traffic. This could be your answer to the perfect commuting machine.
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I live in Australia where these bikes along with all other three wheeled machines (two at the front or two at the back) are classed as motorcycles. In some states the traditional trike with two wheels at the back are able to be driven on a car licence but the Piaggio along with the Yamahas and Can Am Spyders require a bike licence which to obtain you must take the training course first. I once owned a Piaggio MP3 400 which was purchased hoping my wife would get the bug. She never did and it was sold. My observations about it where; in every respect it behaved like a motorcycle - it counter steered, it leaned and did everything else you can do on a bike but had the added stability of an extra wheel up front. The 400 had a good power band but most of the power seemed to come at the top end rather than across the band like the Suzuki Burgman. The Piaggio could hold its own on the highways at 110km/h the maximum speed in Australia. I think even though this bike can be ridden in UK on a car licence, it would be advisable for a rider to take the motorcycle training course. One thing that definitely could be improved is the useless screen it is too small to provide any wind protection. I rarely used the locking mechanism except to show off at traffic lights but I could see it being great for people worried about holding up a heavy bike but as you found out you need to make sure the bike is fully upright because the wheels will lock in whatever position you're in.
To be honest I think it is sensible to need a bike licence to ride one of these. However good that they are so accessible to car drivers!
Overall they are quite impressive, and so practical as well. Hopefully it can get more people heading towards motorcycling 👍
That these can be legally ridden with a car licence only is hilarious but the more people get out of their cars and onto one of these things for commuting, the more space there’ll be for everyone of us.
Solid video!
Cheers,
Lupo
Yes it is a bit silly really! Should definitely have to do some sort of training at least. It really does ride like a scooter.
Absolutely, why the government are not promoting these I don't know. Better for everyone and the environment.
Cheers
Just CBT will set you up nicely as a car driver.
They take up as much space as the old micro cars. It is health and safety that has made cars enormous. They have to survive crash tests, side impacts and to do that have to be large. Odd bikes do not have these rules. My opinion is to remove some these safety rules and produce city cars for commuting that are small and do not take up space.
@@tonysheerness2427 Exactly, my first car didn’t have headrests, let alone safety belts. It weighed in at 720kg and the 1200cc air-cooled engine produced 55hp. It was no rocketship but absolutely drivable. My good old 1968 NSU 1200C.
The car industry needs more people like Colin Chapman (RIP) and Gordon Murray… adding lightness!
I remember my mate Steve had a Bond Bug.... he did'nt have a car licence but could drive it under his motorcycle licence,,,, The world works in mysterious ways
Great review. I got this Mpe 300 hpe sport 11 days ago. It is a 2020 model, but it had only 916 km on it. I brought my brother with a MC license to bring it home to me and i have just been practicing on the smaller roads and parking lots. I have now 300km in the mp3 300 and has settled in quite good. It is really fun to drive. Cheers from Norway.
Hi thanks so much I really appreciate that 👍 Congrats on your bike and enjoy the ride
The huge benefit of the foot brake, other than having that extra level of safety and the linked braking, is the ability to hold the brake and have both hands free while stopped on a slope.
👍 That is a good point. Makes hill starts very easy
@@redangrevival if youre struggling to do a hill start on a bike with both brakes on the levers, thats twist and go, youre doing something seriously wrong. Its easier to do a hill start with both feet on the ground holding the bike up. Youre thinking about normal bikes here and gettign confused.
Nice vid Gus.
I rode the first MP3 - a 250 - for a while, then the 400, then the 500. Commuted Colchester to South London a few years. Was great. Loved them and are fantastic machines for beginners. Very stable. Even if you slide all 3 wheels on a wet roundabout, you can hold it up, because of the tripod effect. You can throw them around or cruise along. Very comfortable and steady. Very practical with tons of storage, especially with a topbox as well. I used to say they put the "fun" in "functional".
They weren't rideable on a car licence in my day. They widened the front wheels and added a couple of things like the footbrake to make it technically count as a trike.
It is bonkers that people can ride them without a bike licence, though. Complete ignorance from the authorities. Though stable, they ride just like a scooter or bike and nothing like a car or a trike, but they are treating it like it's a trike re. licencing. Mad.
The suspension locking is only for parking really. If you do that while rolling toward the lights or whatever, then a wheel drops into a hole, you will get tipped off. Also, when you twist the throttle to unlock, there is a moment when it unlocks that feels unstable and can surprise you depending on the road surface.
I think it would be a terrible idea for people with some lack of physical ability, for example, to count on that locking function helping them out. Fantastic for parking though as you can do stuff like lock the suspension, get off and roll it into a small space pushing from behind.
They aren't cheap, though. The extra linkages are something else to go wrong. It used to need steering bearings replaced more than you'd think. It has an extra tyre to wear obvs.
Your question about bus lanes is interesting given them being legally 'a trike'. The ones I rode *weren't* trikes - you had to have a bike license - so were fine in bus lanes. Not sure on the modern config. I think it would be crap for them not to be allowed, but maybe that's a downside of the silly 'legally a trike' thing.
I can't imagine you'd get stopped for it, but can imagine, if you got 'in trouble' for something done in a bus lane they might try and add that technical offense to whatever charges they brought.
I own a 500 MY 2018, good points you have. Where i live, i have to stay out of bus/taxi lane.
Interesting comments.
Thanks glad you liked it 👍
Thanks for the insight, very interesting to hear from a previous owners point of view. Yes I suppose the locking system could be a tricky one, especially until you have the hang of it. Definitely wise to stay on the side of caution.
Overall I quite like these trikes, think they offer a great option for some people and they are surprisingly fun and relaxing to ride!
I think the bus lane rule might change depending on the city, as the council probably don't know either.
Cheers and hope you are doing well.
@@stiggibombasticfor the 500 you also need a bike licence due to width.
@@paulmarsh5673 Nope.
Lovely little thing. Great review
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍
i had one for work! brilliant commuter bike !!!
Interesting scooter, Thanks for the review
I got the 500 Sport, thanks for the very good revieiw.
👍 thanks glad you enjoyed it
Another advantage of the 'parking lock' is that it's more stable when parking, no more worrying about side stands sinking in the mud!
👍 It is a great feature, takes some getting used to though!
You should have stated that you can only ride this machine on a car license if you passed your driving test before January 2013, otherwise you need a motorcycle license to ride it, as all trike now come under a motorcycle license.
Yes, verily. You are. Correct!
I'm probably ok then, passed my test in 1977! #oldiscool
You should have spelt "licence" correctly.
@@steventhomas2856 I don't get this joke? What is a licence?
@@steventhomas2856you the spelling police or just have a lot of time to trawl sites correcting spelling
Thank you! That ixs certainly food for thought.
Well done…fun and educational presentation…be safe
Thanks, I appreciate 👍
Really good review. So many reviewers come from a motorbike background and cannot resist the temptation to apply motorbike criteria to scooters. Really informative. Thanks. ps. I think that trikes less than 450 cc can use bus lanes.
Thanks so much i appreciate that and really glad you enjoyed the review 👍
Thanks for the video it's helped me with my choice
It is my pleasure and really glad to of helped with your decision 👍
Thanks for the video mate, a comparison between this one and the Yamaha Tricity 300 would be amazing! Thanks!!
Its my pleasure, glad you liked it 👍 Perhaps I will try to arrange that
Tricity 300 can lock at any angle it can also lock when below 2 or 3 mph , I use the lock function when parked on the side stand as an extra security device , it is really hard to lift up when locked leaned over on the stand it cannot be easily wheeled away like a normal sotter .
Hey Gus good video! I have an MP3 500 for the the past 10 years and love it. I'd like to know what brand adapters are you using to mount the go pro camera on the handlebars. Looks like it's actually mounted on the handlebar grip...yeah? I like at the end of the vid you say "who knows, you may progress to a traditional 2 wheeled motorcycle". Or, like me, you may digress to a 3 wheeled scooter from a 2 wheeled motorcycle. LOL
Hi, thanks I appreciate it 👍 Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes it is a RAM mount, you can get them on Amazon. They are great.
Yes it can clamp really well onto most things. Haha fair enough, we each have different wants and needs from our bikes.
As someone who is disabled this looks like it could be in my future, once I have the money, as it would give me my freedom again.
🙌 they are such a great tool to get back out on the road again. I hope you manage to get one. All the best
@@redangrevival thanks 👍
Have a great New Year's ! / / some wind / water / snow flick's would be cool ! / Thanks
Great revieuw from the bike, I have the Yourban 300 cc driving thru a car license obtained before 13-1-2013, so its allowed to drive it here without course first, but I recomment evrybody to do a vieuw lessons, thnkx for the upload
Hi, thanks so much I really appreciate that and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 They are such great bikes, to use. Especially with a car licence
Really interesting I'm getting one of these as ulez and congestion parking ext just to much now.
Great review thanka
Thanks really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Such a great option for the city, instead of a car
@@redangrevival not sure if you no. Do you have to pay the congestion for the 400? I see in a comment on another video someone said the 400 is £10 per year congestion?
Also how much road tax is?
Does a helmet fit under the seat of the 300 sorry for all the questions just tryna do my research before I buy
@@jacko2815 Yup a helmet fits 👍Sorry not too sure about tax etc...
There is a superb Taiwanese three-wheel scooter on the market, but It's 12 grand: Kymco 3CV. 550cc engine. It also locks standing. If I could get one in Thailand, I might be tempted. In Portugal, I have a Can-Am F3-S. It doesn't lean but is real fun. And it's as fast as an MT-07; top speed and 0-60 MPH. I still ride two-wheelers, though, and have five.
That is pricey, but I will take a look cheers. Have always wanted to ride a Can-Am 👍 Nice that you can appreciate 2 and 3 wheeled bikes
I did my cbt once when I had scooter 15 years ago I sold it after 2 years because I didn’t want to do it again.also I was losing garage to keep-scooter in I think I would have to learn how to ride one of these as they seem lot different to my old 125 Yamaha
Fantastic review, which had me wanting one! Wow!! ... Until I checked out insurance options for UK use. For me looking at an excellent condition 2021 model, valued at £4,000, garage stored, 4000 miles per year, with clean full uk driving licence, zero accidents, etc, insurance premium came in at £1,700 per year. My 2 year old car only costs £300 per year to insure fully comp!
That for me ends my desire to own one of these.
I might revisit, once these machines become more common place on UK roads, with insurance prices hopefully dropping substantially.
For those of you who have one of these, I can only remain envious of you! 😂
Thanks so much I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Yes the insurance is crazy! Really does affect the decision of buying one!
Cheers
Good review mate, I guess this is a machine you could use all year around and in all weathers giving you a good alternative to a car.
Having 3 wheels Id imagine it’s more stable on wet and wintery roads as well.
Thanks I appreciate that. Absolutely it is soo much more stable in adverse conditions 👍
Thx for a good review😊👍 can you also do a review in the Kymco CV3 500?😅 I will one of these (Kymco, Piaggi or Tricity)
Thanks really glad you enjoyed it 👍 I will try my best to get a ride on the Kymco
I bought a brand new mp3 530 in December so far its spent a mounth in work shop and is currently a non starter £11.500 garden ornaments
🥴 That is very annoying! Hopefully it is not a regular thing with these bikes. Perhaps the Yamaha Tricity would be more reliable
I've just ordered the same MP3 your riding based on your review of this trike! Can I ask where you got your satnav/phone holder from please? It seems to fit really well on the MP3 300. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks really glad you enjoyed the review. Yes it is actually from a shop called Halfords in the UK. Meant for bicycles but works great on motorbikes 👍
Im definitely gettin one
That’s good to hear 👍
Go for the 530 exclusive If you can afford it as it is a lot better than the original 500 😊
@@adamhughes5358 i was thinkin 500 sport indeed. But now i cant even afford a bicycle
Certainly in the Channel Islands, (Not covered by the UK road traffic regulations.) these are classed as an A2 motorcycle. You need an appropriate motorcycle licence. Anything less than 1.5m wide is a motorcycle regardless of the number of wheels. Bizarrely, a Quad (more than 1.5m wide) is classed as a small car and lots of people ride them without helmets. (Clearly not bothered about any potential injuries!) Interesting concept all the same. Thanks for posting the video up.
Yes that is one to look out for! The laws will vary a lot depending on where you are. Still think helmets should be mandatory on quads and trikes.
Cheers
A helmet is mandatory!
@@kounterfit on this machine yes but not for the MP3 LT and larger trikes and quads as the front wheels are sufficiently spaced
@@Noidy312 I ride an LT.... And a helmet is mandatory all over the EU. I think also in the UK but even if not you must be a retard not to wear a helmet. I'm in the UK(Southampton) with my Piaggio mp3 500 right now.
Category B - if you passed your test on or after 1 January 1997
You can drive vehicles up to 3,500kg maximum authorised mass (MAM) with up to 8 passenger seats.
You can tow a trailer that weighs up to 3,500kg MAM.
You can drive motor tricycles with a power output higher than 15kW if you are over 21 years old.
Great review thank you - subbed. Can you tell me - if you had to pick this or the Tricity - purely on fun factor (that's all I want one for) - which would you pick? Thanks
Hi thanks so much I appreciate it 👍 For fun factor I would go with the Tricity
@@redangrevival Thank you for the feedback
Thanks for the review, looking at the MP3 or Yamaha 300…
It is my pleasure, good luck with the choice. They are both great
Can you do review of other Piaggio MP3’s 350/400/500/530
And the Peugeot metropolis be great to see, and which of these you would recommend?
I will try my best to 👍
Bus lane signs vary. If they have a motorbike sign you are OK, if they do not have the sign you will get a ticket
Not related, but was the protective coating you gave your Speedie this winter worth it? Trust all well
Yes definitely worth it. However I would go for a more hard wearing protection in the future. ACF-50 has to be done about 3 times a year.
I would go for more of a rust blocker like XCP 👍
Enjoyed the Review but it musta been a long long time ago since you rode the tricity lol
Thanks 👍 Yup about a year ago now actually haha! Time fly's
Could you please do the kymco cv3 next😊
I will try my best 👍
No you do not have to wear a helmet but if a fly hits you in the eye it will hurt and what if you come off at 70 mph but has a top speed of 95 mph manufacture claim
Think a helmet would be very sensible!
Yabut, a good swift kick to the nuts, and give the guy 200 pounds for a motorcycle course.
Until you get a bumblebee in your smash hat like my friend did in the late 60s
Looks great😅
I agree that car drivers would benefit from an hour or two training. I think most motorcyclist schools offer training by the hour for help. I always thought these would be a possibility when I get too frail for normal riding so this was very interesting. I liked what I saw. A bit expensive for a way into two wheel riding though.😊
Yup at least a few hours training would be sensible really. Just going over the basics etc...
I am a supporter of these trikes, think they are a great option for various reasons. The technology is really good on them 👍
Not at all. It is just like riding a MC. And you must have a car license for some years. Or you need extra training. Don’t remember how long, and other country’s can have other rules.
Most in this video is wrong Informasjon.
Chain drive ? I noticed the ABS. Considering the important the front wheel is to braking and control, doubling the rubber footprint can only be a benefit. Now if they can design a removable bubble cover for complete weather protection, it would be a definite commuter car replacement. (Just registered for my 2nd DGR) 😎 Cheers
It's belt drive CVT. It is essentially a maxi scooter they have made technically fit the 'trike' description because the trike description doesn't talk about being able to lean like a bike.
They used to do a huge screen, but just like the BMW C3, it was essentially dangerous as it would catch the wind too much.
I had a wide but low screen on the 500 Fuoco variant I owned and it kept the weather off almost completely at anything over 10 mph.
@@Disposalist Moving is one thing, but people used to cars and stoplights would likely appreciate a roof.
It is a belt drive 👍 Nice and easy maintenance! Yes a removable bubble is a brilliant idea, have it on over the winter then remove for summer 👌
I will be signing up very soon
Nice review!! Something different eh? As an ex MP3 owner I would say it's bad news that a car driver would not need to be motorcycle licensed on this! In Canada a bike license was is needed for all scoots greater than 50 cc. Not to mention the upright lock only be activated with bike fully upright as so easy to drop it if a lean. I loved mine, very stable otherwise.....even did road trips across the border into the USA. They are a rarity here these days.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 👍 I agree think some training is very much required, they ride remarkably like a two wheeled scooter! I am all for these trikes, and promoting the use of them.
Cheers
Here in Florida we do require a motorcycle license for anything over 50cc. We have enough bad drivers on the roads these days...I couldn't imagine allowing licensed only drivers of this bike or so-called trike ;-) on the roads. Love my MP3 500.
@@geriegan8076 Enjoy your sweet summer riding!!
I own a 500 for a long time and I love it. Roll lock system is nothing more than a gadget and I don't use it that much. And peeps it's not a car so a helmet is mandatory.
👍 they are great/practical vehicles.
@@redangrevival Fun fact. I live in the Netherlands but wil Ride to the UK with it next week to visit my gf. She lives in Southampton. 4 weeks ago I was also there and made daytrips with my bike to Stonehenge, New forest etc. Do you live there?
@@kounterfit Sounds like a great trip 👌 I live in Bath. Recommend a visit
Thanks for this interesting review. I just love the stability of this "trike" and appreciate how it might help me one day be back into motorcycling again. If it can hold itself up then that is a big tick in favour from me.
It is my pleasure, glad you enjoyed the review 👍 They are a great way to get back into biking for sure. Extremely stable and easy to ride
Hi bud looking to buy one witch one would you buy for country lanes piaggio or Tacitus 300 many thanks john
Hi, do you mean the Yamaha Tricity 300?
This is the old model the new one is a lot nicer looking and led lights all around plus cruise control go for the 530 if you can afford it as you will grow in confidence with it and keep up with all your friends who have bigger bikes (check your license as you might have to have your car license before a certain date)
Yes the 530 Exclusive looks very premium. The licence thing is tricky o get a definitive answer on!
@@redangrevival it used to be that you had to have passed your B license before 2013 like the rest of Europe. Now you have to be over 21 to ride on a full car license i believe.
I've owned a Piaggio MP3 500 LT for four years and although I've enjoyed riding it on a car licence, the insurance has been much higher, without a full motorcycle licence. The servicing is also expensive and required frequently, due to the 1800 miles between rear type changes, which is not a quick or cheap job. When it comes to changing the headlight bulb, the entire front end must be stripped for a single bulb replacement (£220). I wouldn't buy another MP3, I've paid the equivalent retail price twice over. Screws require constant re-tightening. Approved MP3 MOT centres are few and far between.
That is interesting to hear from an owners point of view. A shame about the high insurance and maintenance costs though! I think a motorcycle license is a good idea
@@redangrevival I rode it on my car licence because I had motability car and the contract ended shortly after lockdown. I've not been successful in getting another car from them since and decided to buy a car instead. The long story is an East London dealership sold me a three year old crash damaged machine as new. So instead of being new in 2019, it was already three years old and all rubber had perished. Conclusions: Fuck ever buying another PIAGGIO! 🤔 They want £11K for their 2023 variant. £2.5K over the retail price of the 500 HPe advanced.
@@Zodliness Sorry to hear about that!
Is it only the mp3 LT you can ride on a car license because front wheels are wider apart then the other ones ?
No you can on the Yamaha Tricity as well 👍
You should try the Piaggio MP3 530 hpe Exclusive. it's brilliant! I've got a Kawasaki ZH2 and a Harley Road Glide ST but for everyday city riding it's the Piaggio every time! 😃
Sounds nice, I will try my best to get a ride in it 👍 These trikes are just so practical and easy to ride
@@redangrevival Oh yeah, for sure 😃
I always rode my scooter through bus lanes which were marked for buses, taxis and bicycles. Despite being stopped 4 times by cops, I never got a ticket because I pointed out that my taxation class was bicycle. I am not sure if I was legal or whether the cops were not sure of the law. That was 20 years ago so it might not work now.
Probably the cops did not know haha!
See if you can get yourself a test on the twin cylinder, Kymco version - the CV3. 550cc, but expensive at £12,000.
👍 I would like to do that, they are interesting to compare against each other!
@@redangrevival I would like to test ride one, myself - but it's a two hour drive to my nearest Kymco dealership. Thanks for the vids. 👍
Had a Piaggio mp3lt 500 loved it but the hassle of trying to insure it without a bike license was a nightmare, applying online was hellish as you couldn’t answer the question properly, MOT was also a pain as you had to take it somewhere that specialised in trike mot”s and then my local main dealer shut down so couldn’t get it serviced and the front suspension needs specialised regular servicing other than that they are the best way of commuting
Yes I have heard very similar stories, the insurance can be a real nightmare if you don't have a bike licence! They definitely do have there down sides, but I agree such agreat way to commute 👍
Is it just the 300 cc in the MP3 range that can be ridden on a car licence, or is it the same for the 400 and 500?
Any of them. However you do need your car license before 2013. But this changes a lot so worth checking for your specific country
Which is more stable and powerful in real life? This one or the Yamaha Tricity 300? I mean, which one gets better up to 75 mph and which one can maintain that speed in a easier way? Thanks for the info mate!
I would say the Yamaha Tricity feels slightly more powerful, but there is not much in it! Cheers
As a late bloomer transitioning from a car, I thought long about the MP3. Unfort'ly only the MP3-530 is available where I live. The sheer weight and power (not to mention the cost) almost nullifies its "stability" appeal for novice riders like myself. And the closest Piaggio servicing outfit is a good 75km away. The stars were simply not aligning for me..
The "car license" aspect never made sense to me, either. If safety nudged us towards a trike, why take short-cuts in developing skills, especially with the MP3-530 weighing a whopping 617lbs (280kgs)! So I got regular motorcycle training, and bought myself a very decent 300cc Kawasaki. I'm absolutely loving my 2-wheeler. My usage is admitedly lighter than most folk, as I don't use it for daily commutes.
At a motorcycling show recently, one guy told me he rode the MP3-530 to Key West, Florida on the US Route 1 (the highway made famous in Schwarznegger's movie TRUE LIES), and the trike was rock solid in 70km/h winds. That may well be true, I had no reason to doubt him - But that sort of uber-stability is simply not a priority for me, not right now. I'm happy getting a few years of real motorcycling experience under my belt.. Perhaps an MP3 will appeal to me when I'm closer to retirement, and want to have fun with less worry about stability (and gear shifting). Maybe Piaggio will offer more MP3 choices where I live in a few years as well!
Welcome to the world of motorcycling 🙌 Absolutely if given the chance I would always have 2 wheels instead of 3. Trikes are great and definitely have their place, however you can't beat 2 wheels! Cheers
lol. late to the party but was in similar shoes..
always wanted to get into moto world, but was just busy/lazy/finding excuses to learn clutch on bike(15+ years on a car..)
but - im renting mp3 400 now(cheaper than car) which is 2023 one, and damn, I wasnt ready for the weight.. I spent 1 hour sitting and checking the weight in lock/unlock mode, did 10 circles around the rental in busy city center and went to my destination 50km away via motorway :D .. im not sure how I survived to be honest, considering im also in mountain region, and the wind is ALWAYS there and just changes direction as i tried to keep doing 100kmh and avoid truckers pushing me from behind like 'cmon, lets go..'..
Twisted my wrist twice trying to hold it upright due to leaning it 'a bit' to 'practice' ..
also dropped it once while trying to stop(lock button wasnt responsive), and it was uphill with an incline and gravel and incoming car.. thankfully they helped me pick it up(fell info bushes lol)..
I dreaded riding it for several days at the time(due to fcking hills and no flat roads and highway after 500m..) ..
but again, I survived :) after 500km I got more confidence.. and after 100km+ on twisted mountain roads learned proper balancing into corners with weight shifting.
Also it can go 150kmh.. not mega acceleration after 100kmh - but still faster than 80% of cars around here.
And locking mechanism is just magic.. any parking in or out - you can just push it forward/backwards and use handlebars so it stays upright..
overall im really satisfied and enjoying it..
Planned to get Zero DS electric one, thats push an go(no clutch) , but that ±100km range max on highways is just lol.. and to get extra battery its 2-3k..lol.
so im actually considering getting myself piaggio now, but 530 to get more power, since they're all same 280kg..
but yeah, without moto experience, you should go through some minimum training or practice for at least few hours to build up muscle memory/reflexes(mainly for suspension lock).
visually, of course its on the ugly side, moto guys dont consider you relevant, and everyone tries to overtake on highways(since youre a big scooter..) ..
haha, sorry for the rant, anyways its mega fun(+ storage is extra nice)
When turning above 10mph, do you use counter steering like you would on a motorcycle?
Yes, it rides just like a motorbike
Yes it does work like that! It is quite impressive at how it feels like a 2 wheeled bike 👍
You always use counter-steering on motorcycles and this bike, all the time. A bike does not turn, if you don’t use CS.
That is a bad myth, that kill 100 of people every year.
whats available in new york?
Google Says......A: Use of bus lanes is allowed, as you're a motor-tricycle and thus fall under Motorcycle category according to the TfL. A: Congestion Charge is exempt, provided you register the motor-tricycle under the specific additional form required by the TfL.24 Dec 2022 I might get one of these Looks like fun.
👍 nice research thanks for that, great to know. They are good fun and very practical
Try the new 530 exclusive a lot better bike and do a cbt if you have not ridden one before only thing not to like is pairing your phone to tft screen , and has e reverse gear and camera but a lot off money
Yes I would like to try the 530. Looks like a great bit of kit
Thank you. I had the 500 business for 18 months then at 4006 miles I traded it in for the new 530 exclusive and it is so much better and with 3 driving settings economy, comfort,sports it’s something else with no experience on 2 wheels done a cbt and went out with friends who helped me as we went along now done 1800 miles on the new one used as days out with friends all have full license and we have a good time 😊
Hi am looking at getting a used three wheeler scooter 300ccc and above but are undecided on what make to go for what would you Yamaha, mp3 etc etc.
Having ridden both I would go for the Piaggio MP3, mainly down to the balance locking system being better and more useable.
The Yamaha has slightly better tech and storage though.
Both very good 👍
@@redangrevival what cc would you go for. Thanks for the reply.
@@SennaTaylor-fq8lj To be honest the biggest I could afford! 400 is plenty realistically though
Try and get a 500 sports as it has a reverse gear and will make it easier and better to live with 😊
Sorry it’s heavy if you need to back it in to a garage or shed on a slight hill or slope 😊
With the wide frontal width why don't they add similar width panniers or wrap a streamlined cargo box around the back?
I believe you can fit a top box to the rear
@@redangrevival sure but those only hold a single helmet and look ‘tacked on’. They missed a design opportunity there!
I'm new here and that was a very interesting video.
The Bus Lane issue is interesting as it falls on the historic legal category of trike.
A motorcycle and sidecar is a TRIKE.
A Reliant Regal is a TRIKE.
Things with 3 wheels 😏Well at least one of the above isn't allowed in a Bus lane, if not both.
Laws need to be clarified and looking back at the kerb weight of the Reliant that had to be
reduced to a point of acceptance within the law at that time.
One point that bothers me with the modern Trike configuration is what happens when the
rider leans too far on the bend at speed ?
Could it flip over and land on top of the rider?
Would it just slide out, having somehow gone to a point of no return on two wheels?
Very true! Haha I would like to see a Reliant in the bus lane 👍
I think it would slide out from under you rather than tip over
Have you ridden a kymco cv3?
Not yet
But my question is does the weight feel too heavy compared with a scooter ? I mean are we "forced" to use the auto stability feature when waiting or you can just use your feet like a normal 2 wheel ?
It is definitely heavier! However no you do not have to use the auto stability, easy to stabilise your self
Good video. I do wish this was sold in North America, but I don't think it will ever make it to our shores.
Thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video 👍 That is a shame. Do you get the Yamaha Tricity?
They are being sold in the USA. Maybe not today. But they have been sold before.
@@Gismo3333 I know the 500 was sold in the US, but never saw or heard that the MP3 Sport 300 was ever sold.
@@OntarioAndrews415 - that is probably because most people in USA, think it’s super dangerous, riding something with top speed of less than 100 MPH.
There is not many people that import bikes, when they don’t make much money. And maybe can lose all the money. Because people are dumb.
But that speed, is what kill. Not riding slow. And that’s the reason why bikes are dangerous. They are only making up dumb reasons, why they have to get fast bikes. Nothing to do with safety.
USA needs more roads with slower speed. Government all over the world, are doing the same stupid thing. Closing down the slow roads between cities and towns. So stupid… At the same time, talking about making traffic safe. But they are doing the opposite.
What does it do to the gallon?
Roughly 56mpg
You need one
I purchase a used 2007 Piaggio mp3 250ie and restoration it took me 3 years just finish it because of Covid19 took longer but just little more touch up I be done! In Texas they changes the law now need a M license 50cc and up! 🥺
Sounds like a great project 👍 Can't be too hard to get your 50cc licence!
It's very hard to get a motorcycle license in Texas it takes 3 days license course one day in class and two days just riding around course class and $356 dollars! 😢
Hi mate, great Video's . You've done the Japanese Version and The Italien Version, but what about the French Version !!😀 It's got more CC's, more Horses, more KGs and costs more Euros.
Hi thanks so much I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the videos 👍 Which is the French version?
@@redangrevivalPeugeot Metropolis 400..
We call them levers pronounced ( leevers ) in England
is available in the USA ?
To be honest im not 100% sure! Sorry
Very interesting review 👍 now try and get yourself on a Niken buddy!
Thanks 👍 Yup very keen to. Does it have the locking system for the front two wheels?
@RedAng Revival no it doesn't, wheels lean like a regular bike but with a feeling that you could scrape the pegs on every bend!!
@@2wheeledwillie395 Think it is another level up from these smaller trikes. Can imagine an exciting ride 😁
Don’t rely on the front wheels standing with out a stand for ages it can fall over as it’s stable but not 100%
Oh im a biker and you have my attention. 3 questions for you 1) this is 100% electric ? 2) why in the video do you have a reg plate on the rear ? 3) how would this bike fair on insurance ?
Cheers Scott uk
Hi Scott, no it is not electric! You do need a car license to ride it. If you don't have a motorcycle license then I believe it will cost more on insurance.
Cheers
I have a full motorbike licence since 2014. So what catagory does this bike come under for insurance ?
Cheers
@@Foxybiker72 You would have to check with insurance company. But having a full license will low the costs alot!
Ok thank you i'll have a look into it and find a dealer and hopefully get a test ride to get a grip and see how it rides. Thanks for the info.
hi there i passed my car driving test on the 4th oct 2008,on my licence its got above my pass date its says 19th jan 13 i am 70 years of age will i be able to ride the piaggio 300 bike
Hi, I really wouldn't want to give you the wrong information. Always worth checking with the DVLA, or your local licensing authority. But in the UK I think you should be ok
Can you carry a passenger? Can you ride it on the motorway?
I believe yes for both, however worth checking online to confirm!
I jusy been looking and iys saying now if you got your b license after 1997 you can ride one off them as long as your over 21
👍
Who did you get insurance with?
That is a good question! One to look into, but I think trikes are not too hard to get cover for
How many miles do these engines run for on average? What’s reliability like for Piaggio MP3?
They are well tried and trusted engines. I don't know exactly how far to be completely honest!
I just did an engine rebuild for my ancient 2006 MP3-250 at abouty 70,000 miles. The hydraulics will let you down way before the engine ever does.
@@arnaudguillon8318 I bought an mp3 500 2019, I hear the notch issue is present in all…?
@@adeelmohammed6921 To be honest I m not so sure. The steering notch issue was present in all early models (mine was horrid) but I thought Piaggio addressed it down the line - something to do with overtightening. You will identify it if your mp3 wants to go straight and resists steering. Not a difficult fix though.
@@arnaudguillon8318 thanks I’ve not had the issue but was worried if it was present, I had it all greased up. Thanks for explaining the symptom that it doesn’t turn.
I don’t think that this is in any way a replacement for a car for a majority of people. It is however a fantastic opportunity to replace a second car.
I like the analogue instruments compared to the Yam's.
Some prefer the digital, but I suppose it is personal preference really!
The Peugeot has Both !!
They are wonderful until the entire front end falls to bits, horrid things to work on or repair and they need constant attention to the rubbish front end.
That is a shame, I can imagine that gets expensive! A lot going on at the front end
There are SOME Bus Lanes that motorbikes can use.
They have the motorbike symbol on the blue sign.
If there is no motorbike symbol then you CANNOT ride in them.
Yes, I was really wondering if trikes can use bus lanes 🤔
You can ride on a car licence but it must be the LT, model which has a hand brake ...
Driving licence requirements
The two most important changes were that from 19.01. 13, new rider/drivers: must be a minimum of 21 years of age (for tricycles over 15 kW), and. require a motorcycle licence (category A or A1) to be able to drive them because they no longer fall within category B1.
hi there i passed my car driving test on the 4th oct 2008,on my licence its got above my pass date its says 19th jan 13 i am 70 years of age will i be able to ride the piaggio 300 bike
Are these changes only for UK? OR UE?
Soooo as a car licence holder … do I need to complete a CBT
It depends when you got your car license. I believe if you had your license before 2013 then you don't need a CBT. Please check this though, it may have changed
@@redangrevival thanks … I’ve had my licence 30 years …. The next obstacle is the wife …. I won’t hold my breath …. Oh well
Ciao :)
DO YOU HAVE ABIKE LICENCE SO YOU CAN RIDE THESE PIAGGIOS AS I CANT GET FINANCE AT ALL
If you had a car licence before 2013 then I believe you can ride without a bike license. However I recommend checking this!
@@redangrevival i have found one of these on autotrader its a 2012 model for £2200
is that a fair price for one of these.its done 15,000 miles--is it to old to buy or what
@@user-im2qz2xr9m Seems like an ok deal. 15k miles for these is not that much
i managed to get a 2012 piaggio 300 lt 16,000 miles on clock from private seller in london
good condition with extras, oh does these bikes have a security device on them
£2200 insurance with RAC only £74 per annum and £78 a year tax,not bad
@@user-im2qz2xr9m 👍
I know nothing about armour but I wonder if the impact of a bullet would create a shockwave stronger enough to cause a cardiac arrest.
CAN I BUY THIS SCOOTER
Yes
Ive been looking into these bikes and apparently if you get your car licence after 2013 you can ride these on a car licence could you validate this for me please? As not long held my car licence 😂
I have to be honest because I don't want to giv you the wrong advice! I believe you need your car licence before 2013, however I recommend confirming with the DVLA
@redangrevival thank you for your response I will look into this further but it would be ashame if they have changed it
@@oxcki yes they changed it. Your license must be from before 19-01-2013.
@kounterfit yeah I've seen this what a shame I've not booked my theory for my full bike licence
@redangrevival I thought I'd get back to you regarding my recent question I rang DVSA today and I'm able to ride a tricycle on a car license as I'm 27 years old
As long as your 21 and over
And hold a valid FULL UK license your good to go,
These “bikes” need Really expensive service every 5000km. If you commute with it, it will be more than frequently at the dealer.
I was a ex piaggio mechanic yes mp3 changing the steering bearings can be quite expensive
Was interested in this as a way to save on fuel but every 5000km would be about 13-14 weeks of commuting for me. I think I'll just move closer to my new job.
Only if you have passed your test before a certain date so not for everyone
Good luck getting any insurance, I did try but no one would touch me they all asked if I had bike licence
Yes I can imagine that being a big issue! I should have mentioned that in the video
Do you have to wear a helmet as its under car licensing
I believe you do. But worth double checking as the laws do change
@@redangrevival Also would you say that this could be a good media into two wheeled motor cycles i ask as i would mind getting some road craft before diving into a powerful sports bike
@@AQUAGUYUK Yes I think it would be good for that
@@redangrevival Then best i get on one thanks for the content well worth the sub
@@AQUAGUYUK Thanks 👍
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Its a eyesore, but I guess its nice for the car drivers that wane be a biker on a scooter.
Thats it, try to convert more people to biking 👌
@@redangrevival I rather see motorcycles than scooters, they always remind me of aerodynamic toilet seats on two small wheels. But that is down to taste. But its always beter than space eating cars.
NO LED ? Not Good
530 exclusive is led all around and very good 😊
You say you can ride this on a full car license I was thinking getting one for work but the insurance quotes I’m getting (the ones who would insure me) are ridiculously high they wanted over a thousand pounds with a 7 hundred pounds excess on piaggio 300cc worth £3500, parked on my drive locked up, I’m 53 been driving since I was 18, got over 20 years on nonclaims bonus, yes I do have 3 points on my license (speed camera) and when I phoned the insurance brokers they couldn’t tell me why it was so dear
That is ridiculous! Yes that is a problem, because you have no motorcycle experience then I guess they are charging for that. Perhaps getting a simple CBT license would help with the quote
@@redangrevival yeah did one of them a couple of years ago, when I had a 125 NMax nice scooter but it a little underpowered on same A roads
@@whatsmine7848 I would have thought that might help with insurance!
@@redangrevival thank you