Why didn't they just keep the random three choices for the first four? This just seems worse and grindier. This is coming from a "newish" returning player that doesn't have LoS or even the Deep card set since I have an older account. Although it does seem that you might be able to get higher elixir number, or whatever the elixir effect is, for players. So it definitely does help and the system doesn't seem too bad. But trying to get BiS will take awhile which isn't bad I suppose. I'll still say that having a random choice for the first 4 is still better than just having them already there.
Yes because you were just lucky. Most of us are not, You have -4 turns, 4 random options which can make the elixir useless if you need chest/helm etc and there is already picked one which you don't need. I haven't seen even one exhaust option for 15 elixirs. Elixirs are definetly not better.
not worse at all, way easier to get 40 set and my main has 48 elixir with all offensive lines now which would have been no way to get in 30 elixirs minmaxing u get waaaaaaaay more 5/5 now
Got 40+ on 3 chars with atk power/dex/weapon power and stagger but I think it was just luck. My friend got rlly bad options and he wasted a lot of elixirs from the very start, lit 3 chest without good support options :0
Got my first 5/5 today (boss dmg/attack). Finally. But insane RnG overall. I had as much as 12 after the 2nd transmute but went to crap after that. Also you usually only get 2-3/5 that are worth crafting in the first place. Not so bad if you have free elixirs but incredible frustrating if you have to pay for them.
The potent elixir boxes are bugged for me, it just says "no icon" and cannot be opened. Also idk about this, you get high points on them but the elixirs stats just suck. Crit Dmg 5 on a Pistoleer and Master of Evasion 5 is just useless. An old 4/4 or 5/3 with good stats would be better at that point.
i used 25+ elixirs to get my 1st 5/5.... the chance feels the same as before just faster less brain involved... and u cannot pick lines yourself so 2/3 of elixirs already ruined before u even cut. THANK S SMILEGATE
@@NoEditAndy I an old dude, (61) that have had a lot of fun in Lost Ark sins the beginning, but I'm also not a real raider, and when they introduced Elixirs, and I saw what a waist of time, gold and even more random up on random, and a new stupid system I had to learn, I decided to just not do it, and then Transcendence came, and I almost left the game, now I almost only do daily's, chaos dungeons and Cube runs. Based on that, I can't give any advise on what would be better, except they should give you the options for elixirs that fit your class, and then you could have a system where you could upgrade, kind of like honing, so you keep getting closer an closer to max.
@@BlindGoose1 its not that bad rn u can do solo Voldis for elixirs / or use event once and they made cutting process 100 times easier so u just click whatever sounds better and getting decent results. Hard to minmax but very easy to get 40 set for your class. Try it!
@@ivangho6319 You are right, but it's like now you can't even min-max if you wanted, it's not thought through, and I feel they are just Band-aiding it, as people are really sick about both Elixirs and Transcendence, it's really a pity. I might try it out if I fing a good guide, but for now, I'll not bother my-self with it, I will just get mad, and ruin a good mood.
it is WAY easier now to get a fully maxed out Elixir. I had 80 potent Elixirs (the silver ones) in my roster storage, started cutting them on my main and ended up getting 6x 5/5 Elixirs, all with proper off-stats (Dexterity, AP or WP). So now I have Master set at 49, Critical at 50 - fully maxed out. I really can't complain! 😛
@@koynov333 I'm not sure which ones were blocked and which ones were not. I had some chests with 5 Elixirs and a bunch of catalysts in my roster storage that I was able to use with no issues.
I'm pretty sure everyones feedback to AGS/SG was make 40 set attainable for "NEW PLAYERS" and not make elixir Min/Maxing easier.
you mean make min max worse.
New elixirs are great for alt characters who need a 40 set, but are terrible for character who want to minmax 5/5
Not wrong! alot of bricked elixirs because of multiple set effects
Why didn't they just keep the random three choices for the first four? This just seems worse and grindier. This is coming from a "newish" returning player that doesn't have LoS or even the Deep card set since I have an older account.
Although it does seem that you might be able to get higher elixir number, or whatever the elixir effect is, for players.
So it definitely does help and the system doesn't seem too bad. But trying to get BiS will take awhile which isn't bad I suppose. I'll still say that having a random choice for the first 4 is still better than just having them already there.
i opened 10 elixirs yesterday, i had to throw away 7 because of the first 4 trrash option...if This is a buff, idk what it is...
yea I agree, that part was the only thing I was sus about
Finally got 40 set on my dusty old Souleater and got some nice 5/5s on my other characters, people complaining about this change is wild
Yes because you were just lucky. Most of us are not, You have -4 turns, 4 random options which can make the elixir useless if you need chest/helm etc and there is already picked one which you don't need. I haven't seen even one exhaust option for 15 elixirs. Elixirs are definetly not better.
NICE!!!!!!!!! grats bro~
Yes there are many elixirs that are bricked from the start but it is still 10x easier to cut a 5/5 even min maxing is much easier than before
They made elixers worse somehow while buffing them.
HAHA the perfect way to describe
not worse at all, way easier to get 40 set and my main has 48 elixir with all offensive lines now which would have been no way to get in 30 elixirs minmaxing u get waaaaaaaay more 5/5 now
Got 40+ on 3 chars with atk power/dex/weapon power and stagger but I think it was just luck. My friend got rlly bad options and he wasted a lot of elixirs from the very start, lit 3 chest without good support options :0
sounds like ur friend needs ur help :D
Got my first 5/5 today (boss dmg/attack). Finally. But insane RnG overall. I had as much as 12 after the 2nd transmute but went to crap after that.
Also you usually only get 2-3/5 that are worth crafting in the first place. Not so bad if you have free elixirs but incredible frustrating if you have to pay for them.
ye, today's elixirs didnt go as well as here
Finally got my main 6 characters 40 set after months
Congrats!!!
its fkin worse by far, the decrease in tries just fked it up majorly
The potent elixir boxes are bugged for me, it just says "no icon" and cannot be opened.
Also idk about this, you get high points on them but the elixirs stats just suck. Crit Dmg 5 on a Pistoleer and Master of Evasion 5 is just useless. An old 4/4 or 5/3 with good stats would be better at that point.
yea they need to fix those boxes
i used 25+ elixirs to get my 1st 5/5.... the chance feels the same as before just faster less brain involved... and u cannot pick lines yourself so 2/3 of elixirs already ruined before u even cut. THANK S SMILEGATE
Ooooof yea I tried again today and it was still easy but burned through way more elixirs than in the video
Finally got 40 on three alts that were stuck at 35. Not going to complain at all.
awesome!!!
i always get options that forces even distribution. i did 5/5 once though. i guess rng is not good for me
easier and faster to get 40 set but the RNG still terrible. Dunno why they still not nerf this 2 years old system to the ground at this point
I tested it out yesterday one of my stats had 100% great sucess lmao
Stare
Cut 30 elixirs for BiS, bricked everyone of them 😢
LOL RIP...
Elixirs are stupid, it’s literally just enchanting why not just allow it to be like enchanting in other mmos.
Haha yea atleast it’s much better than before! Maybe more nerfs coming
Just as stupid as always, Smilegate are really not thinking a few steps forward, I'm so tired of this game.
What would you think is better? 😮
@@NoEditAndy I an old dude, (61) that have had a lot of fun in Lost Ark sins the beginning, but I'm also not a real raider, and when they introduced Elixirs, and I saw what a waist of time, gold and even more random up on random, and a new stupid system I had to learn, I decided to just not do it, and then Transcendence came, and I almost left the game, now I almost only do daily's, chaos dungeons and Cube runs.
Based on that, I can't give any advise on what would be better, except they should give you the options for elixirs that fit your class, and then you could have a system where you could upgrade, kind of like honing, so you keep getting closer an closer to max.
@@BlindGoose1 its not that bad rn u can do solo Voldis for elixirs / or use event once and they made cutting process 100 times easier so u just click whatever sounds better and getting decent results. Hard to minmax but very easy to get 40 set for your class. Try it!
@@ivangho6319 You are right, but it's like now you can't even min-max if you wanted, it's not thought through, and I feel they are just Band-aiding it, as people are really sick about both Elixirs and Transcendence, it's really a pity.
I might try it out if I fing a good guide, but for now, I'll not bother my-self with it, I will just get mad, and ruin a good mood.
it is WAY easier now to get a fully maxed out Elixir. I had 80 potent Elixirs (the silver ones) in my roster storage, started cutting them on my main and ended up getting 6x 5/5 Elixirs, all with proper off-stats (Dexterity, AP or WP). So now I have Master set at 49, Critical at 50 - fully maxed out. I really can't complain! 😛
And how you used the silver elixirs when they are blocked from AG since yesterday?
yea! i was able to get great elixirs in fewer attempts than before
@@koynov333 I'm not sure which ones were blocked and which ones were not. I had some chests with 5 Elixirs and a bunch of catalysts in my roster storage that I was able to use with no issues.