I've never been on a cruise in my life but I really like watching Gary talk about it. I'm much younger than probably all of you but I don’t really think Virgin is trying to pull in a younger crowd. If me and my girlies wanted to go on a party vacation, we would absolutely prioritize cheap booze over everything else. People in their 20’s and 30’s have no money and we’re not going to spend big bucks to experience a fancy spring break when we could just go to a resort in Mexico, have drinks included in the price, and still spend significantly less money. If me and my girlies were going to go on a party cruise, we'd probably go with Carnival because they seem like the Myrtle Beach of cruising and an excellent place to be intoxicated for a week straight.
This is precisely what's so confusing about the Virgin cruise model. They seem to be targeting the ship at your demographic, but pricing it at my demographic (mid-career 40-somethings). My demo won't put up with the discomfort, and your demo won't put up with the price. Either they're going to discover a previously untapped market of woke, well off, cruse curious gen Zers and late millenials, or we're going to see a massive overhaul of these ships in the next couple of years.
i think they're targeting the young crowd that wants to go to vegas but on water. IE the young crowd that actually has money to waste - which IMO is pretty sizeable. Although I do see the appeal in the dirt cheap alcohol binges at cancun resorts.
I would definitely consider this cruise line; need to check how they accommodate people looking to cruise solo. I definitely enjoy the different take on dining. More options, not having to pay extra for specialty restaurants and a food court style rather than buffet are positive. Also, as a forty year old single person without children, I would prefer an adult only, especially twenty-one plus line to a cruise with lots of children.
As Gary noted, some things have changed over the nearly 3 years and many sailings since this video was created, but the major things are still accurate. Regardless of cabin choice, one of the beds (twin size) remains fixed, and we had no difficulty storing luggage under that bed. I agree that at first glance, VV may look costly, but as Gary said, there are deals. We have booked a sea terrace (balcony) cabin for under $100 pp per night including all taxes, etc. during some of these promotions and even had some included "Sailor Loot" (onboard credit). THey have also instituted a status match with loyalty programs from other lines and are supposedly starting their own loyalty program. We got benefits like $10 per day credit at The Grounds Club (starbucks-like coffee), a bag of laundry done, a bottle of champagne, priority boarding, a cocktail party, etc.
I’ve already booked two cruises with them, one on each ship. I couldn’t care less about the pool, but I’m excited the music won’t just be “Brown Eyed Girl” on repeat, like on some other lines. As a solo cruiser, the fares are quite competitive to NCL.
@@wizirbyman I’ve now been on two cruises with Virgin, and the dance parties are spectacular affairs, with breaks for live performances and professional dancers.
My favorite thing about cruising is how convenient it makes "sampling" a country or countries. I am in it for the experience of visiting new places, not for the partying, so I doubt I'll ever sail with this line.
I’ve always loved the Virgin brand, prefer adult only ships and not looking for educational cruises but I’m afraid this ship isn’t for me. Closest I get to hip is keeping my fingers crossed I don’t break mine ...... I like comfort above style. I wish them luck as I’m sure there’s a market but feel the ‘pool’ will put many off
Thats the thing, you CAN have comfotrt AND style. Virgin find this balance pretty well, in my opinion. The beds were some of the most comfortable beds I have slept in on a cruise ship. the bathroom, like all cruise line bathrooms, are small, but since the door opens outwards (instead of inwards like some lines) it doesn't feel quite as small, and the shower door opens in or out, so it can be easier to slide in one way or the other depending on your body type. Also, the fact that you can set the room to your own mood preference (all from a tablet), makes it that much more comfortable. Overall, I was way more comfortable than i thought I was going to be heading into this cruise from the photos and 'pre cruise' reviews people seem to think helps anything. Hard to take somebody (a blogger) seriously when they preview a cruise line before they try it out. The Red room is an amazing space, probably the most versatile entertainment space at sea. While you may not like it if you are only into the classical Broadway type shows, it adds a variety of different types of shows throughout a single cruise that almost everybody can find something they might enjoy. Also, being completely adults only, there is a fair amount of innuendos spread out on the ship, and most of them bring out chuckles from most people when they first see them. After that, it just becomes part of the ship. I t really is a breath of fresh air for those people that don't want classic stuffiness. And the crew. Wow!! thats the only word I can think of for them. They ALL seem to really want to be there, and are happy to talk and mingle with guests (which they are allowed to do to a certain extent on their off hours). I was at a bar, and started talking to a couple women who I didn't even realize they were crew at first because their name tags were on the other side where I couldn't see them. Turns out one was the third officer, one was a high level engineer, and the other was the head of shipboard training. All three were just relaxing at the bar in Halloween costumes, enjoying a drink. What other cruise line makes you feel like the crew are real people? with real personalities? It was amazing!! I will DEFF be sailing again. AHOY!
I think I'm in the majority here when I say that while I appreciate the attempt to offer a different type of cruise experience, this is definitely not for me. We're not attracted to "party" ships and the poorly designed cabins, small pool and to borrow the words of a previous poster - the IKEA-like furniture is a big turn off for me. Thank you for the very informative video however. I was curious about the Virgin product and you really covered the pros and cons.
We were looking for a "non-stuffy", adults-only cruise with lots of vegetarian options. Only one choice. We have booked Valiant Lady this June and are really looking forward to it.
I love the Virgin brand but this isn’t a line I’d volunteer to cruise with. Whilst it’s great that it’s adult only and that it’s bundled soft drinks, tips and wifi in with the fare, that’s not enough for me to see past the poor cabin design, the smaller cabins and them not seemingly being terribly accessible, coupled with lack of swimming facilities, it’s not got enough positives for me to pull me over to book.
Sounds good! This is one I would look into further if I ever decide to cruise. Went on one over half my life ago when all I could afford was the smallest room. Hoping that now, with a little more money (even tho I'm retired), I can enjoy a bit bigger lodging.
I’ve been looking forward to your video on VV Gary. I would be happy to spend a whole week just on Board Scarlet Lady. And you’re so right that the Galley was more Covid ready than the nay-sayers first thought. I love the Wake and the Dock House too. I just can’t wait for her to get a chance to sail and to finally show us what she’s got.
Just booked the 8 Day Eastern Caribbean Cruise out of Miami on Valiant Lady for Feb 2022. I agree that it should be an interesting experience. Looking forward to it. Cheers!
We were booked, Covid hit, I saw the cabins, and was thrilled we had to cancel. I was looking forward to the dining and Bimini, but I couldn't overlook those terrible cabins.
Having to book every night for dinner? Ummmm nah. To much trouble - for those times on holidays when you just want to be casual and spontaneous. I like contemporary but this just comes across as trying far too hard to be hip and somewhat smug.
I would like to book with them in the future when I have more funds saved up and hopefully different locations. They have free wifi and the food looks and sounds amazing .
As a more traditional traveler (aka Grumpy Old Man), this ship is interesting to look at on You Tube, but I think I’ll stick with Princess, Holland and Regent. The bathtub-sized pool and cabin configurations are the main turnoffs.
The cabins look bare and uncomfortable. That likely means people will be lounging around the ship splayed on couches looking hungover. And what is the point of a cruise ship without a decent pool? The CEO and designers should be fired!
It just feels confused. The packaging/pricing feels aimed at people with healthy disposable incomes, but the entertainment/furnishings seem to be a try-too-hard boomer's idea of what a late millennial or gen Z would want - probably with all research done on Instagram. The 'premium price party hostel experience' seems like it's going to have a really narrow market - the economy boomers and gen X have built isn't known for putting significant amounts of money into the average twenty-something's pocket. With a major furnishing update, I might consider it for a unique itinerary that I couldn't get with a more traditional line. But for the most part, it's a 'no' from me. While I'm still young enough to enjoy the entertainment, I'm old enough that I need some more creature comforts. Cruising by IKEA is not for me. (To give my opinion some context, I'm late gen X or 'Xennial')
I am not sure it's a good idea to have a tattoo shop onboard. I think this is something that will change. Just think about getting a tattoo while a the ship sways back and forth. Mistake waiting to happen.
Over $250/day per person. 4 night is $1000 per person . My voyage was cancelled in November, 2020 by me and then by Virgin. I rebooked for December, 2021. Fingers crossed!
Those fares listed above are the minimum you will pay of course. Inside cabin. Some dates the minimum is much higher for the exact same inside accommodations just on different dates .
i have yet to go on this cruise but as a young person (late 20s), I'm really interested in the concept. The only issue is the lack of free flowing alcohol, but this basically has a fancy vegas on a boat type vibe. I can see the appeal with young people because it's not drab like most cruises. Their design and club/bar ideas really lend themselves to the instagram/tiktok generation of millenial who wants to be trendy and a little bit bougie.
Just too many design flaws for me....they tried way to hard to be “different” and missed functionality all together. Maybe I’ll reconsider after they have actually sailed with paying customers and had enough feedback to fix some of the worst flaws. For now, taking a wait and see attitude.
Can't wait to try this brand.... Adults only sounds wonderful the lack of hot tubes is disappointing but hey im open. And think chilling on the private island will be fun.
No, not for me. Food options look not too bad and might be good to have fresh entertainment on offer. Everything else mentioned and shown looks really unappealing. Cabins with fold up beds and less storage.....tiny swimming pool...... uninteresting ports of call....having to book every meal in advance....... Won't even consider it. (Also what would I do with all my "dressing up for dinner"clothes🤔)
Thanks for review, I truly wanted to try Virgin. The rooms bed/couch issue a turn off. Love our naps. Pool as well, even to just sunbathe. Not Interested.
Just did the 'maiden voyage'. The worst ship I have ever been on! Even the Oil Tankers I worked in my youth. The cabins are minute slithers barely wider then the bed length. The beds are not set back during the day. The showers are dangerous. The knobs are unmarked. The hand held points to the door when holstered. Turn the shower on and get a cold blast in the face. The door has a heavy gauge stainless steel door frame. Head hurts time! Balcony - 1" gap on the privacy door to the next balcony. The so called food hall is like a motorway service station without the welcoming aspect. More of a Navy crews mess. All Greys. The food is all foreign bits and pieces only the American beef sandwich things and hamburgers are useful. Now here is the rub. always being told 'it's on the app'. However it is near impossible to use. The date of birth needed 900 (I kid you not!) to set the year. The whole app seemed to have been written by a 10year old schoolboy. When their own IT guy in board tried he had a way to go behind the app and load the date. OK we are fixed he goes on line - server error, No doubt same schoolboy, or is the whole thing a class project? The staff were going mad at their handhelds. Not being able to access the app I was not able to see what was available or see a plan or the ship (no signs they are on the - oh never mind) book a table in a restaurant and they are all booked, on a boat with something like 1/3 load??? Same with the theatre. We were supposed to be on a UK Coastal cruise, so we promptly go out into the bay of Biscay. Not a sign of coast. Why I was on that anyway as a photographer - happysnapper.com, I wanted coastal shots. Misleading adverts. Talking to other passengers it just seemed mostly we all wanted to get off. The first time I have left a boat thinner than I joined!
Thanks for your review. The husband and I are researching now to (hopefully) sail next year. Virgin sounds absolutely perfect for us and I do think you're right- they'll likely find their age demo skewing a bit higher than they anticipated. We don't swim, love live dj's and enjoy a more urban/modern look. The cabin doesn't bother me as long as the bed is comfy. I can't wait to enjoy the Drag Brunch. I do hope they have a full on drag show as part of the entertainment though.
I feel like their efforts to appeal to a younger crowd are a bit contrived. It’s almost like a faux hip ambiance (honed in on that DJ footage) that in the end looks cliche. I’m on the younger side for cruising adults and the standard rooms look like glammed up college dorm rooms. Not my idea of a lux ship. But to each is own. Hope they find their true market niche.
I know this may sound like a weird question, but the adult that needs to be over 21... does this mean an adult that is 21 can take an 18 yr old on or, the adult needs to be 22?
I tend to like innovation and re-interpretation so very early on was quite interested in this. But the more I learn, the less I like it. "tryting too hard?" I won't be sailing on VV, which was their intent. IDK, are there that many people hip enough to want these things but unhip enough to be willing to cruise?
It's like they were going for "Boomer Spring Break" but then added too much young people stuff, like the focus on fitness centers over pools or the multistory night club. I mean; I'm way too young to cruise (23) but how dare they market themselves as a "party cruise" and then not have a drink package. Absolute blasphemy.
I like that they have dining for vegans and vegetarians. And more cruise lines need to do the same because younger people are more and more care about those lifestyles.
Were there ever times you tried to book a dinner and couldn’t get in? My concern is that it would be full. Also, is the food court unlimited or can you only eat from one place? And how do they do breakfast?
I am amazed at all the negative comments. That's the point of version cruise line is not for everybody I don't have sell 15 times and I barely get in the pool most cruises the hot tub is normally filled with kids who are not supposed to be there. Even some of the newer cruises already look old so I think I would like the boutique hotel look and I'm definitely going to give it a chance I'm booking today actually I'll let you know.
I know every adult doesn’t drink alcohol, but it’s interesting that the fare wouldn’t include it. If you stay at an all-inclusive resort, alcohol is usually covered =\
LOL, not on a cruise my friend. They make a killing on alcohol sales. And unlike resorts, there are no nearby bars, so they have a monopoly on all sales. So much so, many lines in the Caribbean will offer their cabins at cost, just to have maximum people on board buying drinks (and other things). As another example, NCL charge $79+ per person, per day for their all-inclusive drinks package. And that's only if you pre-pay.
Had said absolutely no but excellent points well made and the experience of different cuisines/few sea days etc hell I will take th random cabin & do it :-)
I have been to the med to see if inliked cruising loved it so in jan of the following year i did the carabbean 4 times snd mecico once i loved it im 76 now znd csnt get about like inused to but oh i wish i could they were the best holidays and i did it on my own all the lot, i miss ocean village which was the ship i eould cruise on but p &o britania would suit me fine if you hsve not ctuised try it snd you will be booking them year aftear
I think they need to rethink the pool but they may have other fun things on board like i heard they have a pool at the port so im waiting to hear a review before I make a decision to try seem very interesting so far
They need to add a couple of Endless Pools” on the side where all the pull-ups bars are. If being “fit & heathy” is their aim, then a lap pool along the side would be great.
Im in my 20s and this does not appeal to me at all, if I'm the age group they're trying to appeal to. It looks cheap. Especially the promenade and pool decks. The rooms look like something in a premier Inn.
I wonder how many of the activity staff felt when their acts were up and most of the audience turned up to be elderly. The activities are obviously targeted towards 20-30s. It must have been like performing for your grandparents.
I'm curious ... did you have a problem with the shower-door opening into you while you showered (door would not stay closed)? It may *seem* minor ... but for me, that's a *major* annoyance!
I love the risks and modern ideas Virgin are doing here, but Millennials and Z-gens simply don't have disposable income to do this at volume. SKIers (Spending the Kid's Inheritance), or simply waiting to inherit-types are going to be able to access this level of travel.
Everything I've seen about Virgin Voyages looks totally bizarre to me and does not appeal to me at all. I absolutely hate the cabin design and find the entertainment concept very off-putting. I like the main dining room, so that is another turn-off. And my only travel companions are my kids, so this one's definitely out.
if richard branson who has tons of worldy experince and has done everyhting including crazy sports and hasnt cruised..there must be a reason. and he not doing it isnt the reason. I look at the cruise ships.
I think gay men 🏳️🌈 and married same-sex male couples who love and enjoy gay nightclubs with hot steamy sweaty dancing and music video type showes and higher fashion taste might enjoy virgin cruises if they also enjoyed some of the Virgin Airlines in the past. Millennials like myself like collecting vinyl records and compact cassettes. Sometimes vinyl records and other music formats sometimes have music not available on the radio or streaming or sometimes rare vintage copies or one-offs. I don't drink alcohol beverages much but I do like soda water with flavoring or a plain soda water with a lemon slice. Some people in our community love exercising and checking out other men. Hope virgin cruises have gay only cruises in the future. Don't think this Cruise Line is appropriate for families with children.
DONT GO ON THIS SHIP. My girl works on that ship. The company cut internet speed down for employees so low they cant make video or audio calls on whatsapp or duo. The employees complain they miss their families and nothing is improving. The company doesn't give 2 💩 about its employees. I will call corporate. Multiple billion dollar company skimps on internet for their hard working underpaid employees. 😠
Pre-pandemic supposedly “Gen Z” [Americans?] were in to “experiences” and it appears that Virgin is trying to distinguish itself this way with very instagrammable vignettes. Not being European is this a viable alternative to a trip to Ibiza? Is this part of the initial target market?
As probably the only Gen Z representative here, there is no way we or even millennials are ever getting on these ships. We didn’t have any money before the pandemic, we certainly don’t have any money now, and we will never have any money in the future. We cannot possibly be their target audience because we’re in debt up to our eyeballs and still live at home. I really think the target audience here is older people who want to have the Gen Z vacation/party experience (not a bad thing). Or maybe it’s for parents who want to vacation with their adult children and they think this cruise is something their kids would really like. As an American, there’s nothing in Ibiza that we couldn’t get for significantly cheaper in Mexico or the Caribbean. There is zero reason for Americans to ever go to Ibiza/Mallorca/Gran Canaria; it would be a total waste of money and the one vacation day we get a year. Also if Americans were going to go to Europe to party, there are *significantly* cheaper ways (i.e. backpacking and youth hostels) to do so.
I don't feel like most millennials will want to go on a ship that seems so posh. Maybe they will and I am wrong, but there are plenty of party cruise lines with a smaller price tag.
Honestly, maybe they should've aimed at families as the ships are so lacking in features and they could've used the open spaces to add in stuff like mini golf, water parks, arcades, etc. They frankly look boring and the staterooms look tacky and ugly.
After viewing numerous videos and reading reviews, I have come to the conclusion that this cruise line is just not for me. Nothing about it is appealing.
We won't be booking Virgin; not my cup of tea. Did 4 so far on Oceania, and am looking at 7 Seas and Seabourn for future cruises. Next: Fjords on Silver Muse in 2024.
ONLY thing I agree with you is no children. After what you know about cruising and your enormous cruising experiences on the very top cruise lines and the very best cabins. I truly cannot comprehend why you would even entertain this cruise line. Almost believed that this entire video from you is "tongue in cheek" until the end when you said that you had even booked on Virgin.
Why so negative ? Richard Branson has done some amazing things - private Caribbean island , Virgin Hotels, Virgin Atlantic Airlines, and Virgin America Airlines (sold successfully to Alaska Airlines). I have met him. I like him. He has some rumored continuing health issues so I am not sure on his daily stewardship of his namesake companies.
There are only two cruises I would consider, 1) Antarctica and 2) one on Virgin's ships Virgin sounds like a blast. I'm not a pool person, so not a deal breaker for me. I LOATHE buffets and assigned seating stuff. I liked the look of the ship from the pictures, and cabins didn't give me pause. Why would Branson want to copy cat Disney or Carnival? If he's got the money to spin it different, more power to him. The Mediterranean cruise sounds great. I wish I had money to go.
After speaking with the casino marketing department , this cruise line is definitely BOUND to fail, No or little consideration to players, who get comped on other lines, why sail with these people, cabins are small tiny pool, looks like an alcoholics paradise, bad itineraries, just seems to be much better options out there
"virgin a brand we know and love". Speak for yourself. Richard Branson showed his true colours when co-vid reared it's head. I would not take a Virgin Train...
I've never been on a cruise in my life but I really like watching Gary talk about it. I'm much younger than probably all of you but I don’t really think Virgin is trying to pull in a younger crowd. If me and my girlies wanted to go on a party vacation, we would absolutely prioritize cheap booze over everything else. People in their 20’s and 30’s have no money and we’re not going to spend big bucks to experience a fancy spring break when we could just go to a resort in Mexico, have drinks included in the price, and still spend significantly less money. If me and my girlies were going to go on a party cruise, we'd probably go with Carnival because they seem like the Myrtle Beach of cruising and an excellent place to be intoxicated for a week straight.
This is precisely what's so confusing about the Virgin cruise model. They seem to be targeting the ship at your demographic, but pricing it at my demographic (mid-career 40-somethings).
My demo won't put up with the discomfort, and your demo won't put up with the price.
Either they're going to discover a previously untapped market of woke, well off, cruse curious gen Zers and late millenials, or we're going to see a massive overhaul of these ships in the next couple of years.
@@douglanglois456 I'm 48 and think a ship half the size, all suite, with an atrium pool, etc., would be more to my liking.
It would appear they do not even know who they are targetting this ship seems to be allover the place
i think they're targeting the young crowd that wants to go to vegas but on water. IE the young crowd that actually has money to waste - which IMO is pretty sizeable. Although I do see the appeal in the dirt cheap alcohol binges at cancun resorts.
I'm 64 and going on my first solo cruise, I'm a little nervous, but thought I'd bite the bullet 😅
I would definitely consider this cruise line; need to check how they accommodate people looking to cruise solo. I definitely enjoy the different take on dining. More options, not having to pay extra for specialty restaurants and a food court style rather than buffet are positive. Also, as a forty year old single person without children, I would prefer an adult only, especially twenty-one plus line to a cruise with lots of children.
Home too and do what if some parts aren’t to my taste I’m there for the experiences :-)
Nice to see some change and a company prepared to experiment in an attempt to develop new markets and bring in new customers to cruising.
As Gary noted, some things have changed over the nearly 3 years and many sailings since this video was created, but the major things are still accurate. Regardless of cabin choice, one of the beds (twin size) remains fixed, and we had no difficulty storing luggage under that bed. I agree that at first glance, VV may look costly, but as Gary said, there are deals. We have booked a sea terrace (balcony) cabin for under $100 pp per night including all taxes, etc. during some of these promotions and even had some included "Sailor Loot" (onboard credit). THey have also instituted a status match with loyalty programs from other lines and are supposedly starting their own loyalty program. We got benefits like $10 per day credit at The Grounds Club (starbucks-like coffee), a bag of laundry done, a bottle of champagne, priority boarding, a cocktail party, etc.
I’ve already booked two cruises with them, one on each ship. I couldn’t care less about the pool, but I’m excited the music won’t just be “Brown Eyed Girl” on repeat, like on some other lines. As a solo cruiser, the fares are quite competitive to NCL.
To be able to go on a cruise and not have to hear Sweet Caroline blasted sounds lovely! I'm hopeful for some good house dj's.
right, i think if they had like a resident dj like a vegas type dj it would do soooo well
@@wizirbyman I’ve now been on two cruises with Virgin, and the dance parties are spectacular affairs, with breaks for live performances and professional dancers.
My favorite thing about cruising is how convenient it makes "sampling" a country or countries. I am in it for the experience of visiting new places, not for the partying, so I doubt I'll ever sail with this line.
I’ve always loved the Virgin brand, prefer adult only ships and not looking for educational cruises but I’m afraid this ship isn’t for me. Closest I get to hip is keeping my fingers crossed I don’t break mine ...... I like comfort above style. I wish them luck as I’m sure there’s a market but feel the ‘pool’ will put many off
same. and it feels like an big ikea showroom
Thats the thing, you CAN have comfotrt AND style. Virgin find this balance pretty well, in my opinion.
The beds were some of the most comfortable beds I have slept in on a cruise ship. the bathroom, like all cruise line bathrooms, are small, but since the door opens outwards (instead of inwards like some lines) it doesn't feel quite as small, and the shower door opens in or out, so it can be easier to slide in one way or the other depending on your body type. Also, the fact that you can set the room to your own mood preference (all from a tablet), makes it that much more comfortable. Overall, I was way more comfortable than i thought I was going to be heading into this cruise from the photos and 'pre cruise' reviews people seem to think helps anything. Hard to take somebody (a blogger) seriously when they preview a cruise line before they try it out.
The Red room is an amazing space, probably the most versatile entertainment space at sea. While you may not like it if you are only into the classical Broadway type shows, it adds a variety of different types of shows throughout a single cruise that almost everybody can find something they might enjoy. Also, being completely adults only, there is a fair amount of innuendos spread out on the ship, and most of them bring out chuckles from most people when they first see them. After that, it just becomes part of the ship. I t really is a breath of fresh air for those people that don't want classic stuffiness.
And the crew. Wow!! thats the only word I can think of for them. They ALL seem to really want to be there, and are happy to talk and mingle with guests (which they are allowed to do to a certain extent on their off hours). I was at a bar, and started talking to a couple women who I didn't even realize they were crew at first because their name tags were on the other side where I couldn't see them. Turns out one was the third officer, one was a high level engineer, and the other was the head of shipboard training. All three were just relaxing at the bar in Halloween costumes, enjoying a drink. What other cruise line makes you feel like the crew are real people? with real personalities? It was amazing!! I will DEFF be sailing again. AHOY!
I think I'm in the majority here when I say that while I appreciate the attempt to offer a different type of cruise experience, this is definitely not for me. We're not attracted to "party" ships and the poorly designed cabins, small pool and to borrow the words of a previous poster - the IKEA-like furniture is a big turn off for me. Thank you for the very informative video however. I was curious about the Virgin product and you really covered the pros and cons.
We were looking for a "non-stuffy", adults-only cruise with lots of vegetarian options. Only one choice. We have booked Valiant Lady this June and are really looking forward to it.
I love the Virgin brand but this isn’t a line I’d volunteer to cruise with. Whilst it’s great that it’s adult only and that it’s bundled soft drinks, tips and wifi in with the fare, that’s not enough for me to see past the poor cabin design, the smaller cabins and them not seemingly being terribly accessible, coupled with lack of swimming facilities, it’s not got enough positives for me to pull me over to book.
Sounds good! This is one I would look into further if I ever decide to cruise. Went on one over half my life ago when all I could afford was the smallest room. Hoping that now, with a little more money (even tho I'm retired), I can enjoy a bit bigger lodging.
As a young cruiser I thought it looked amazing. But I am a water baby and that pool is just silly. Great video.
I’ve been looking forward to your video on VV Gary. I would be happy to spend a whole week just on Board Scarlet Lady. And you’re so right that the Galley was more Covid ready than the nay-sayers first thought. I love the Wake and the Dock House too. I just can’t wait for her to get a chance to sail and to finally show us what she’s got.
Agree ! Thanks for watching 👍🏻👍🏻
Just booked the 8 Day Eastern Caribbean Cruise out of Miami on Valiant Lady for Feb 2022. I agree that it should be an interesting experience. Looking forward to it. Cheers!
We were booked, Covid hit, I saw the cabins, and was thrilled we had to cancel. I was looking forward to the dining and Bimini, but I couldn't overlook those terrible cabins.
Agree. The cabins were the deal breaker for me. I could have lived with the small pool and long lines at the food court buffet.
Worth checking out. Thanks for the great info! I look forward to hearing your experience on the ship.
Having to book every night for dinner? Ummmm nah. To much trouble - for those times on holidays when you just want to be casual and spontaneous.
I like contemporary but this just comes across as trying far too hard to be hip and somewhat smug.
I would like to book with them in the future when I have more funds saved up and hopefully different locations. They have free wifi and the food looks and sounds amazing .
ahhh....this video makes me long for the good old days when we crowded together and enjoyed life....
I missed these cruise line reviews... make me feel like things are normal again... even if just an illusion lmao
As a more traditional traveler (aka Grumpy Old Man), this ship is interesting to look at on You Tube, but I think I’ll stick with Princess, Holland and Regent. The bathtub-sized pool and cabin configurations are the main turnoffs.
The cabins look bare and uncomfortable. That likely means people will be lounging around the ship splayed on couches looking hungover. And what is the point of a cruise ship without a decent pool? The CEO and designers should be fired!
It's great to go back to your initial impressions.
It just feels confused. The packaging/pricing feels aimed at people with healthy disposable incomes, but the entertainment/furnishings seem to be a try-too-hard boomer's idea of what a late millennial or gen Z would want - probably with all research done on Instagram. The 'premium price party hostel experience' seems like it's going to have a really narrow market - the economy boomers and gen X have built isn't known for putting significant amounts of money into the average twenty-something's pocket.
With a major furnishing update, I might consider it for a unique itinerary that I couldn't get with a more traditional line. But for the most part, it's a 'no' from me. While I'm still young enough to enjoy the entertainment, I'm old enough that I need some more creature comforts. Cruising by IKEA is not for me.
(To give my opinion some context, I'm late gen X or 'Xennial')
Ooh, looks fun, thanks for the video!
I am not sure it's a good idea to have a tattoo shop onboard. I think this is something that will change. Just think about getting a tattoo while a the ship sways back and forth. Mistake waiting to happen.
ignoring the fact that the tattoos are ridiculously overpriced, can't imagine they'd stick a needle on your skin if the boats rocking and rolling
You need to stay out of the sun and water after a tattoo.
Thank you for the comprehensive review. The gimmicks will need to prove themselves to gain return cruisers. Thanks for the advice.
I’m
Cruising on both as well next year!!!
Over $250/day per person. 4 night is $1000 per person . My voyage was cancelled in November, 2020 by me and then by Virgin. I rebooked for December, 2021. Fingers crossed!
Those fares listed above are the minimum you will pay of course. Inside cabin. Some dates the minimum is much higher for the exact same inside accommodations just on different dates .
When you post your Virgin cruse videos, I will watch closely and decide. Your review will sway me.
We are going to try the 8 Day Caribbean in 2022 but are very disappointed in the pool area. That's a pretty bad design flaw....
i have yet to go on this cruise but as a young person (late 20s), I'm really interested in the concept. The only issue is the lack of free flowing alcohol, but this basically has a fancy vegas on a boat type vibe. I can see the appeal with young people because it's not drab like most cruises. Their design and club/bar ideas really lend themselves to the instagram/tiktok generation of millenial who wants to be trendy and a little bit bougie.
Just too many design flaws for me....they tried way to hard to be “different” and missed functionality all together. Maybe I’ll reconsider after they have actually sailed with paying customers and had enough feedback to fix some of the worst flaws. For now, taking a wait and see attitude.
Thanks for your honesty and information
Can't wait to try this brand....
Adults only sounds wonderful the lack of hot tubes is disappointing but hey im open. And think chilling on the private island will be fun.
No, not for me. Food options look not too bad and might be good to have fresh entertainment on offer. Everything else mentioned and shown looks really unappealing. Cabins with fold up beds and less storage.....tiny swimming pool...... uninteresting ports of call....having to book every meal in advance.......
Won't even consider it.
(Also what would I do with all my "dressing up for dinner"clothes🤔)
Thanks for review, I truly wanted to try Virgin. The rooms bed/couch issue a turn off. Love our naps. Pool as well, even to just sunbathe. Not Interested.
what's stopping you from napping?
Be sure to see the 1st Emma Cruises review of Scarlet Lady, too.
Just did the 'maiden voyage'. The worst ship I have ever been on! Even the Oil Tankers I worked in my youth.
The cabins are minute slithers barely wider then the bed length. The beds are not set back during the day. The showers are dangerous. The knobs are unmarked. The hand held points to the door when holstered. Turn the shower on and get a cold blast in the face. The door has a heavy gauge stainless steel door frame. Head hurts time!
Balcony - 1" gap on the privacy door to the next balcony.
The so called food hall is like a motorway service station without the welcoming aspect. More of a Navy crews mess. All Greys. The food is all foreign bits and pieces only the American beef sandwich things and hamburgers are useful.
Now here is the rub. always being told 'it's on the app'. However it is near impossible to use. The date of birth needed 900 (I kid you not!) to set the year. The whole app seemed to have been written by a 10year old schoolboy. When their own IT guy in board tried he had a way to go behind the app and load the date. OK we are fixed he goes on line - server error, No doubt same schoolboy, or is the whole thing a class project? The staff were going mad at their handhelds.
Not being able to access the app I was not able to see what was available or see a plan or the ship (no signs they are on the - oh never mind) book a table in a restaurant and they are all booked, on a boat with something like 1/3 load??? Same with the theatre.
We were supposed to be on a UK Coastal cruise, so we promptly go out into the bay of Biscay. Not a sign of coast. Why I was on that anyway as a photographer - happysnapper.com, I wanted coastal shots. Misleading adverts.
Talking to other passengers it just seemed mostly we all wanted to get off. The first time I have left a boat thinner than I joined!
omg it was that huh
I wish I had money to go. Sounds fun!
Thanks for your review. The husband and I are researching now to (hopefully) sail next year. Virgin sounds absolutely perfect for us and I do think you're right- they'll likely find their age demo skewing a bit higher than they anticipated.
We don't swim, love live dj's and enjoy a more urban/modern look. The cabin doesn't bother me as long as the bed is comfy. I can't wait to enjoy the Drag Brunch. I do hope they have a full on drag show as part of the entertainment though.
Good to hear this helped 👍🏻👍🏻
I feel like their efforts to appeal to a younger crowd are a bit contrived. It’s almost like a faux hip ambiance (honed in on that DJ footage) that in the end looks cliche. I’m on the younger side for cruising adults and the standard rooms look like glammed up college dorm rooms. Not my idea of a lux ship. But to each is own. Hope they find their true market niche.
Hi Gary lovely video today. Hope all is well in the uk sir
I know this may sound like a weird question, but the adult that needs to be over 21... does this mean an adult that is 21 can take an 18 yr old on or, the adult needs to be 22?
I tend to like innovation and re-interpretation so very early on was quite interested in this. But the more I learn, the less I like it. "tryting too hard?" I won't be sailing on VV, which was their intent. IDK, are there that many people hip enough to want these things but unhip enough to be willing to cruise?
It's like they were going for "Boomer Spring Break" but then added too much young people stuff, like the focus on fitness centers over pools or the multistory night club. I mean; I'm way too young to cruise (23) but how dare they market themselves as a "party cruise" and then not have a drink package. Absolute blasphemy.
@@themapoe They do have a drink package : )
If I took the 14 day Transatlantic from Miami, what is there to do, for two weeks at sea?
I like that they have dining for vegans and vegetarians. And more cruise lines need to do the same because younger people are more and more care about those lifestyles.
Cruises for those who prefer to stay on boat than getting out. A No go for me. Show theatre the place i never go on ship.
Were there ever times you tried to book a dinner and couldn’t get in? My concern is that it would be full. Also, is the food court unlimited or can you only eat from one place? And how do they do breakfast?
Yes, some can fill up so booking on the App before sailing is a good idea and then tweaking. Breakfast is only on Wake, Razzle Dazzle and The Galley
I am amazed at all the negative comments. That's the point of version cruise line is not for everybody I don't have sell 15 times and I barely get in the pool most cruises the hot tub is normally filled with kids who are not supposed to be there. Even some of the newer cruises already look old so I think I would like the boutique hotel look and I'm definitely going to give it a chance I'm booking today actually I'll let you know.
How was your cruise? Did you like it?
I know every adult doesn’t drink alcohol, but it’s interesting that the fare wouldn’t include it. If you stay at an all-inclusive resort, alcohol is usually covered =\
LOL, not on a cruise my friend. They make a killing on alcohol sales. And unlike resorts, there are no nearby bars, so they have a monopoly on all sales. So much so, many lines in the Caribbean will offer their cabins at cost, just to have maximum people on board buying drinks (and other things). As another example, NCL charge $79+ per person, per day for their all-inclusive drinks package. And that's only if you pre-pay.
Thanks for the info
Had said absolutely no but excellent points well made and the experience of different cuisines/few sea days etc hell I will take th random cabin & do it :-)
Every piece of furniture featured in the video looked uncomfortable.
I have been to the med to see if inliked cruising loved it so in jan of the following year i did the carabbean 4 times snd mecico once i loved it im 76 now znd csnt get about like inused to but oh i wish i could they were the best holidays and i did it on my own all the lot, i miss ocean village which was the ship i eould cruise on but p &o britania would suit me fine if you hsve not ctuised try it snd you will be booking them year aftear
Thank you for this info, always enjoy your segments. MickieG Adelaide Sth Australia
I think they need to rethink the pool but they may have other fun things on board like i heard they have a pool at the port so im waiting to hear a review before I make a decision to try seem very interesting so far
They need to add a couple of Endless Pools” on the side where all the pull-ups bars are. If being “fit & heathy” is their aim, then a lap pool along the side would be great.
Im in my 20s and this does not appeal to me at all, if I'm the age group they're trying to appeal to. It looks cheap. Especially the promenade and pool decks. The rooms look like something in a premier Inn.
I wonder how many of the activity staff felt when their acts were up and most of the audience turned up to be elderly. The activities are obviously targeted towards 20-30s. It must have been like performing for your grandparents.
I'm curious ... did you have a problem with the shower-door opening into you while you showered (door would not stay closed)? It may *seem* minor ... but for me, that's a *major* annoyance!
IKEA furniture and that teeny tiny pool on deck is a joke and they know it No thanks, i wouldn't sail with Virgin Voyages
No, I still will wait to see your two future experiences 😁
Thank you Gary. 🤓🇦🇺🇬🇧
Externally I consider this ship to be very beautiful (considering it to be more of a hotel than a ship) but internally I don't like the style at all.
I love the risks and modern ideas Virgin are doing here, but Millennials and Z-gens simply don't have disposable income to do this at volume. SKIers (Spending the Kid's Inheritance), or simply waiting to inherit-types are going to be able to access this level of travel.
9:59 There's a dead lady in the pool!
Everything I've seen about Virgin Voyages looks totally bizarre to me and does not appeal to me at all. I absolutely hate the cabin design and find the entertainment concept very off-putting. I like the main dining room, so that is another turn-off. And my only travel companions are my kids, so this one's definitely out.
if richard branson who has tons of worldy experince and has done everyhting including crazy sports and hasnt cruised..there must be a reason. and he not doing it isnt the reason. I look at the cruise ships.
No kids!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Virgin is not for me.
I think because it is a new line, so it has such short cruises. So it not, for us.
I think gay men 🏳️🌈 and married same-sex male couples who love and enjoy gay nightclubs with hot steamy sweaty dancing and music video type showes and higher fashion taste might enjoy virgin cruises if they also enjoyed some of the Virgin Airlines in the past. Millennials like myself like collecting vinyl records and compact cassettes. Sometimes vinyl records and other music formats sometimes have music not available on the radio or streaming or sometimes rare vintage copies or one-offs. I don't drink alcohol beverages much but I do like soda water with flavoring or a plain soda water with a lemon slice. Some people in our community love exercising and checking out other men. Hope virgin cruises have gay only cruises in the future. Don't think this Cruise Line is appropriate for families with children.
The exterior is truly butt-ugly; whatever were they thinking?
I wonder if they're trying to be the absolute opposite of Cunard.
DONT GO ON THIS SHIP. My girl works on that ship. The company cut internet speed down for employees so low they cant make video or audio calls on whatsapp or duo. The employees complain they miss their families and nothing is improving. The company doesn't give 2 💩 about its employees. I will call corporate. Multiple billion dollar company skimps on internet for their hard working underpaid employees. 😠
Going on May 2022
It's definitely not for us! I thought it looked pricey for what it is and the facilities aren't up to much.
Pre-pandemic supposedly “Gen Z” [Americans?] were in to “experiences” and it appears that Virgin is trying to distinguish itself this way with very instagrammable vignettes. Not being European is this a viable alternative to a trip to Ibiza? Is this part of the initial target market?
As probably the only Gen Z representative here, there is no way we or even millennials are ever getting on these ships. We didn’t have any money before the pandemic, we certainly don’t have any money now, and we will never have any money in the future. We cannot possibly be their target audience because we’re in debt up to our eyeballs and still live at home. I really think the target audience here is older people who want to have the Gen Z vacation/party experience (not a bad thing). Or maybe it’s for parents who want to vacation with their adult children and they think this cruise is something their kids would really like. As an American, there’s nothing in Ibiza that we couldn’t get for significantly cheaper in Mexico or the Caribbean. There is zero reason for Americans to ever go to Ibiza/Mallorca/Gran Canaria; it would be a total waste of money and the one vacation day we get a year. Also if Americans were going to go to Europe to party, there are *significantly* cheaper ways (i.e. backpacking and youth hostels) to do so.
It's not a ship. It's an ugly layered cake !
Designed by people who know NOTHING about ships.... 😱
won't be booking on virgin... thanks for the info
I don't feel like most millennials will want to go on a ship that seems so posh. Maybe they will and I am wrong, but there are plenty of party cruise lines with a smaller price tag.
Honestly, maybe they should've aimed at families as the ships are so lacking in features and they could've used the open spaces to add in stuff like mini golf, water parks, arcades, etc. They frankly look boring and the staterooms look tacky and ugly.
After viewing numerous videos and reading reviews, I have come to the conclusion that this cruise line is just not for me. Nothing about it is appealing.
This ship is design for young adults not people over 50 base on the entertainment and design
Virgin is a line I would definitely avoid.
How is disability access
We won't be booking Virgin; not my cup of tea. Did 4 so far on Oceania, and am looking at 7 Seas and Seabourn for future cruises. Next: Fjords on Silver Muse in 2024.
No go for me. Pool and rooms to small
Wouldn't be for me. It looks too "in your face" and lacks subtlety in presentation.
Tiny pool and tattoo shop.
Maybe a tat of one of my ex?
That ship looks like it was made of Lego's
Sounds fun, but kind of cheap looking in some ways.
I like the idea it's adult only
Not my cup of tea. I’ll pass
ONLY thing I agree with you is no children. After what you know about cruising and your enormous cruising experiences on the very top cruise lines and the very best cabins. I truly cannot comprehend why you would even entertain this cruise line. Almost believed that this entire video from you is "tongue in cheek" until the end when you said that you had even booked on Virgin.
Why so negative ? Richard Branson has done some amazing things - private Caribbean island , Virgin Hotels, Virgin Atlantic Airlines, and Virgin America Airlines (sold successfully to Alaska Airlines). I have met him. I like him. He has some rumored continuing health issues so I am not sure on his daily stewardship of his namesake companies.
There are only two cruises I would consider, 1) Antarctica and 2) one on Virgin's ships
Virgin sounds like a blast. I'm not a pool person, so not a deal breaker for me. I LOATHE buffets and assigned seating stuff.
I liked the look of the ship from the pictures, and cabins didn't give me pause.
Why would Branson want to copy cat Disney or Carnival? If he's got the money to spin it different, more power to him.
The Mediterranean cruise sounds great. I wish I had money to go.
After speaking with the casino marketing department , this cruise line is definitely BOUND to fail, No or little consideration to players, who get comped on other lines, why sail with these people, cabins are small tiny pool, looks like an alcoholics paradise, bad itineraries, just seems to be much better options out there
"virgin a brand we know and love". Speak for yourself. Richard Branson showed his true colours when co-vid reared it's head. I would not take a Virgin Train...
Not my cup of tea.
My idea of hell
Virgin has a really bad name in Australia.
BFD
@@jmw-ig1bp SMD.
Ridiculous looking ship and ideas of a cruise ship. No thanks. Doomed to fail I think.