"Apollo 13" was about as historically accurate of a successful drama movie as could be produced. They're some minor inaccuracies using dramatic license, such as the astrotronauts losing their cool, but otherwise, it's pretty accurate.
Ken Mattingly (who was in MC the whole time, it was Charlie Duke who was called from his bed), stated that it was Glynn Lunney that ran the show that night, and that he displayed amazing leadership. Im not trying to diminish Gene Kranz and i get that for the purpose of the movie he was the more dynamic character, but Lunney was in charge and thats completely rewritten for the movie.
@@paulinegallagher7821Funny thing is, even without the dramatic license it would have been riveting (as the actual event was back in the day). But, on the whole it was very close to what actually happened.
What's even better is that Buzz was 72 years old when that happened in 2002 and the dickwad he punched was at least 40 years younger. Gotta love those old time ex fighter pilot astronauts.
Well, except for the choir music in the background during suspenseful moments. NASA had to jettison plans for the Air Force Band vocalists to ride along, as there wasn't room for them in the capsule.
The biggest inaccuracy was how they made Swaggert look like some amateur. Both Lovell and Haise said they had full confidence in him. Swaggert even helped design some of the instruments they used on the ship.
There was no yelling at each other during tense moments. These men were both test and fighter pilots. You don't get those jobs unless you have nerves of steel. The History Buffs Channel did a video on this movie. He was very impressed with just about everything except the level of emotion. But he was clear the movie would be boring without it
It's amusing that so many reactors get worried the crew won't survive when the opening credits clearly say this is based on Jim Lovell's book. Tough to write a book if you're dead. Not only did they not die, but aside from cancer getting Swigert, they have all lived very full lives. Jim is still with us, at age 95. 2023 was rough for him, though, because Marilyn passed in September and then Ken died on Halloween (age 90) and then his Apollo 8 commander, Frank Borman, died a week later, also 95. (Borman is *almost* in this film. When they show the clip from "The Dick Cavett Show", we see Dick introduce Borman as his guest just before the news breaks in [and Ken turns off the TV anyhow]) But Fred is still with us at age 90 and Charlie Duke (who got the measles, but got over it, and ended up walking on the moon on Apollo 16 while Ken was orbiting as the pilot) is going along at age 88. So yeah, they lived some rather healthy lives. In fact, when John Young (the commander of the back-up crew, who walked on the moon with Charlie) is helping Ken run those tests, I couldn't understand why the actor wore glasses; I would think NASA only took astronauts with 20/20 vision. (Unless that's meant to be another character named "John", but you'd think they would have changed it. IRL John Young *was* working with Ken, since he was about the only other person on Earth who knew what Ken knew.) Neil and Buzz both walked on the moon, it's just that the commander goes down the ladder first. The crews always had a commander (Jim), a specialist (Fred) and a pilot (Ken/Jack). So Neil beat Buzz down the ladder for Apollo 13 and Jim would have beaten Fred down the ladder if this didn't go wrong and John Young beat Charlie Duke down the ladder on 16, but they all walked on the moon. (In fact, Charlie is the youngest person to walk on the moon, being age 36 at that time. And even though we are scheduled to be back on the moon next year [the Artemis 3 mission], all of the candidates for that mission will be older than 36 by then, so Charlie gets to keep his record.)
@Jessica_Roth It is indeed a different John - John Aaron, EECOM (Electrical System engineer) from Mission Control, who is probably just as famous for his role during the launch of Apollo 12, when the rocket was struck by lightning, as for his actions during Apollo 13... See "Set SCE to Aux" - He did wear glasses in reality. John Young is actually promiently featured as well, although rarely ever in the focus of the scene - he's the guy who gets Ken from the hotel, and who is asking Ken if he needs a break. If you look earlier, you can see him walk into the sim, when the backup crew is called - aside from Lovell he is the only one who is wearing a patch from a previous mission.
Obscure Trivia: Lovell has said that Howard nominally wanted him to portray one the visiting Admirals aboard the USS _Iwo Jima_ that day. Lovell insisted he be shown as a Captain, as that's the rank at which he retired.
I had the privilege/honor of meeting Captain Lovell a couple times back when he was running his restaurant in the suburbs North of Chicago. He seemed to still live up to being quite an exceptional person and to be a cool guy.
A few years back I saw a documentary that included Gene Kranz -- the mission control head played by Ed Harris -- being interviewed. Decades later, he still was on the verge of tears remembering this.
I saw this movie when it came out and I still get tears today.... and I was only an infant when Neil and Buzz walked on the moon. In my book Gene Kranz can get emotional about his work and never be in danger of losing his man card.
He insists that he never said "failure is not an option", and that it was falsely attributed to him. But still used it as the title of his autobiography
I used to be a space museum curator. I’ve given multiple presentations on this mission, and know more about it than any normal human wants. That being said, my favorite story about the moon landings involved an expedition to contact a contemporary Neolithic tribe in the heart of Borneo, who had never had contact with the modern world. The anthropologists reached them in the early 80s, and they had heard from other tribes that men had walked on the moon. That is how big of a deal it was.
That is so cool. That is incredible. Do you remember the name of the tribe, or know where I might find out more about them? Also, which museum did you work for?
@@odysseusrex5908 I am afraid that I do not recall further details, though it might have been in a National Geographic . Infinity Science Center, across the interstate from Stennis Space Center, which is where NASA tests rocket engines.
I don’t call people an idiot lightly, but if you’ve studied this deeply, and still propagate it actually happened then you’re an idiot. It’s utterly transparently a hoax.
I was fortunate enough to purchase a "Footprints on the Moon" diorama from a gentleman who worked for NASA, "just down the hall" from Wernher von Braun. It is, of course, a prized possession. Being a huge NASA geek, I watch everything about it, and especially loved the mini-series "From Earth To The Moon" which was produced by Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, Tom Hanks (all associated with this film) and Michael Bostick. I'm sure you've enjoyed it too, but they sort of show stuff like that ... all the preparation that went into these incredible journeys. What a great comment ... thank you for sharing it!
Fun fact Scott "Scooter" Altman was a Shuttle Pilot (like the equivalent to a 1st officer in a commercial airliner jet or which ever used for public etc, just NASA's terminology for the STS missions) for two NASA STS missions and the Flight Commander (captain in a usual commercial jet or likewise) for two further missions. Was the pilot in a Gruemann F12 Tomcat that did some of the piloting for the movie Top Gun, he's the one who "flipped the bird" and gave the MiG pilot the middle finger lol, he was a pilot in the US Navy, was the flight commander for the last Hubble Space Telescope mission.
I watched the 1st landing on the moon on TV when I was 6. One night I walked out on the back step of the house and looked up at the moon, and knew that people were on there. That was a consciousness shift in my young mind.
I was 5 and remember seeing the landing. Afterward, my dad took me outside and pointed at the moon and told me that was where the astronauts were. It somewhat registered with me, though being only 5, the significance of that event didn't mean much because I distinctly remember being upset that my mom told me it was time to take a bath and go to bed. When you're 5, you have your own idea of life, eh?
@@notmyrealname1730 Indeed. The loss of a toy car through a ventilation grate still bothers me. LOL It did, however, teach me to not "drive" my cars around those ever again.
The line that always sends a shiver up my spine, is when Jim Lovell says "Gentlemen, it's been a privilege flying with you." As he's saying that, he knows they could all be dead in less than 3 minutes.
If there had been even the tiniest inkling it was faked, the USSR would have started round-the-clock coverage claiming we never got there. And any amateur with a telescope could follow the space craft going to the moon and returning. There were about 400,000 people involved in the space program. The astronauts returned with about 50 pounds of moon rocks which were analyzed by labs all over the planet, who could have spotted a fake. (There is a big difference in the chemistry of rocks exposed the conditions on earth and those in the vacuum of space.)
We Never Went To The Moon.People believe we went to The Moon,because they saw it on A Talking Box.If that Talking Box told You to jump off a cliff;would You? If we really did go to The Moon over 50 years ago,we would All be flying across The Stars by now.We would be wearing completely different and futuristic clothes.The World would be a completely different place,but it is not.The World and people themselves are largely the same in terms of social problems,style,psychology,evil,transportation and others.Barely Anything has changed.There are even more problems today.There was no Worldwide Transformational Space-Aged Wave/Event/Incident that completely altered our Human way of life!That Never Happened!
@@TheUnfulfilledOneyou're right. Columbus never crossed the Atlantic too. If he had we would be at the stars already. It's all fake about Columbus. As a matter of fact you and I don't exist. We are just the figments of a dream of somebody who lives someplace we don't even know about.
Niel Armstrong was mission commander of "Apollo 11", and was the first man to set foot on the moon. Buzz Aldren was Lunar module pilot for "Apollo 11" and was the second man on the moon. I remember watching all of the Apollo missions while in High School.
Ultimately, the cause of the mishap was caused by two things. First two years prior, when the SM was being designed there was a whole batch of cryo tanks being built for the program. One of them meant to be an O2 tank was accidentally dropped about 6 inches onto a hard surface. Nothing visual was detected wrong, but a minute crack in a wire insulator inside the tank leading to the stirring fan happened. Second, as part of the integration testing on the launch pad they wanted to test everything on the ground, including the plumbing for the cryo tanks. Problem was a design change for the voltage in the heater element in the tank was not matched with ground support systems, so that the ground cryo test overpowered the heater so much that it was welded into a permanent on state, and the procedure for testing left the heater running uncontrolled for about 8 hours, which further compromised the wiring. Comes the launch things were still running fine at liftoff because the wiring was still covered in LOX which cannot ignite a fire. But 55 hours later when Swigert did the cryo stir the tank had been emptied enough that some of the O2 in the tank had evaporated into gaseous oxygen, which was ignited by a spark on the fused fan wiring. That caused the explosion as at that moment the cryo gas was still at 200+ psi and now burning. That was enough to blow out the whole side of the SM.
I've read Jim Lovell's book "Lost Moon". The problem that led to the disaster was a thing nobody caught onto until way after the event. Basically, human error.
Most engineering faults are a result of failure of imagination, and therefore a management failure, not one of workmanship. The ground support systems were a legacy of the Mercury and Gemini missions, and their Air Force flight test regimes. That had a tendency to design around military aviation power busses of 65 volts DC. So was the Saturn rocket. But the Apollo spacecraft, while at first also being 65 volts was later changed as a response to the Apollo 1 fire so that lower voltage potentials were extant inside the spacecraft, ironically as a measure to reduce the risk of electrical faults and fires. But ground support systems were not. Not too enormous a problem for normal operations, but the physical damage in the cryo tank also kept it from draining completely dry during wet ground test. Somebody had a bright idea for a field expedient of leaving the cryo heater on for 8 hours so the LOX would evaporate away completely. The cracked wiring prevented tbe temp sensor from tripping and shutting off the heater. The internal temp in tne tank got up to I believe almost 800 degrees. Hours of that and by golly wire insulation melts and thermocouples fuse. This could not have been detected short of cutting the tank open and making visual inspection, and putting telemetry sensors for all possible contingencies would have added over a ton of mass and the rocket could not be launched. What was later done to prevent this sort of thing from happening again was strict adherence to quality control. A dropped pressure vessel should have raised red flags and the tank scrapped. Other things like field expedient and undocumented procedures were ruthlessly pruned away. Later disasters such as Challenger only happened when the political operatives regained authority to override that principle in the name of expediency and "go fever".
@@christophtoifl6848 And in a vacuum. Lots of problems. If the tank content were contaminated with something flammable, or had a leak only manifesting in the gas phase then other materials, such as abraded insulation or structure made of aluminum or magnesium then an o2 ignition could occur, even in a vacuum.
Jim Lovell spoke at my college graduation in 1995, 2 or 3 weeks before this movie came out, so it holds a special place in my heart. It's a great story about perseverance and the will of man overcoming obstacles and impossible odds.
I had wondered where I was during this since I could not remember watching it on TV. Looked at the date .. April 11-17 1970. Okie Dokie. I was arriving in Vietnam and .. well ...
I both envy and don't envy you that. I wish I could have lived to see the Moon landing and all the landings in general, all the launches and all the talk about it. It must've been an exciting time in terms of seeing our own specie expand our universal reach.
Gene Kranz used to get a different waist coat made by his wife for every mission he directed (he's still alive even now), was NASA's 2nd Chief Flight Director.
I remember watching with my extended family, Neil Armstrong stepping off the ladder for the first step on the Moon. I was almost 6 years old. Feeling the tension in the room, Grandad (born 1902) exclaimed loudly, "Look out! It's going to get him!". Everyone jumped! Grandad was quite a joker in a Will Rogers kind of way. People might not admit it now, but on everyone's mind was, what if a Moon monster jumps out and devours Neil Armstrong? People just didn't know. We weren't even sure, if the Moon was made of cheese or not! I also remember being a little annoyed, that the Command Module & Lunar Module weren't named "Charlie Brown" & "Snoopy", as they'd been on Apollo 10.
I was 12, and yes - there was some concern that they might sink into the surface - even if only enough so they couldn't get back when the rockets fired.
Tom Hanks saying "We just lost the moon" has always hit me more than "Houston, we have a problem". That's the moment this movie really becomes a rescue mission, when they know the original mission is no longer possible.
Oh dawn I remember watching the moon walk on our old black and white tv with a wire clothes hanger for the antenna lol. My brother had taken me that day to a Boston red sox game and when the announcement came over the loudspeaker that the astronauts had landed the whole stadium erupted with cheers. Then watching the first walk on the moon was probably my most memorable moment. ❤
Tom Hanks went on to produce an HBO miniseries in the style of Apollo 13 about the rest of the space race called "From The Earth To The Moon". I think you'd really love it. It covers Mercury, Gemini, Apollo 1, the designing of the lunar module, etc. I'd love to see a reaction to that series too!
For the episode about Apollo 13, since this movie had already been done, they chose to focus on (a fictionalized version of) the journalists who covered the missions.
Yes, it really happened. Was not a hoax. I was 14 when this happened. It was so exciting watching it on TV. I remember it being so scary and tense when we waited for the splash down. Great movie! By the way, the wedding ring thing really happened, but Marilyn did get it back.
What I find most impressive is listening to the actual transmissions between the astronauts and NASA. Everyone was so calm, collected, and methodical, one would never have guessed anything was wrong, based on the tone of their voices. Truly remarkable and worthy of respect. Thanks for sharing your reaction! Liked and subscribed!
In the book The Right Stuff, Tom Wolfe describes how so many American military pilots of that generation did all they could to emulate the uber-calm and quietly confident vocal mannerisms of Chuck Yeagher, best known to the public as the first person to break the sound barrier, but renowned among his fellow pilots as the guy they all wanted to be when they grew up.
Technicaly, they were supposed to be heard worldwide. The emotions had no place on the air. But more importantly, those astronauts were chosen mainly for their capacity at keeping a clear mind in any situation, Can you imagine what kind of people you need to sit willingly on a 30 story high bomb that will be lit in 3, 2, 1 ,,,
Dawn Marie If you haven't seen it yet, "October Sky" is another true space movie. It's about kids building rockets. One went on to work for NASA. It is a must watch.
@@Parallax-3D When Jenny is leaving Washington DC on the bus, Forrest does what appears to be the Baphomet "As is above, so is below" occult hand gesture. ✌🏼 with both hands.
I'm old enough to remember both the Challenger failure (the one you saw, where the craft failed during launch) and obvs the Columbia failure. The whole world seemed to stop and acknowledge how brave astronauts were, then everything went back to normal and we forgot how amazing Humans can be.
That's awesome! I worked with a guy who worked for Grumman when they built the lunar lander. I'm pretty sure he worked on the lander but its been so long i cant remember for sure.
If I’m not mistaken, I believe the real Jim Lovell appeared in the film at the end in the Admiral’s uniform, shaking hands with Tom Hanks after they were recovered.
To answer your question about what was real - pretty much all of it - including Mrs Lovell losing her wedding ring, but they did manage to get it back for her. The biggest change to add dramatic licence was around the 'tension' between the crew because when you actually listen to the recordings of the crew and Houston there was very little. They had a problem, they worked together to fix it, calmly and coolly. It's a mark of the men these guys were and the ground staff that supported them. I love this film and it's a mark of a great one when you can feel on the edge of your seat - even through repeat viewings - despite knowing how it ends. And I still cry every time at that audio crackle, the look from his son, the cut to the parachutes and then Lovells voice. Fantastic performances all around including James Horner for his music score.
Imagine being the maintenance engineer of that hotel, tasked with getting Mrs Lovell's wedding ring back to her.... I'd have been reaching for a jackhammer.
What is REALLY incredible is most of these command center technicians and specialists were in their twenties, basically just out of school. The computers they were using had a minuscule amount of the power of our smart phones. Kathleen Johnson, heroine of the movie "Hidden Figures" worked on computations for Apollo 11 and many other flights.
@@chadbennett7873So did Margaret Hamilton, who developed a way to prove that her code could never crash the Apollo Guidance Computer, no matter what was input on its sensors, or its keypad, or the state of its memory. A major milestone in fault-tolerant computing.
Not only did I see the first steps on the moon on TV, but I saw all Apollo launches from Apollo 10 on from Titusville, Florida, just 12 miles away from the launch pad.
I was 19 when this happened and had been a follower of the space program as soon as I could walk. These guys were my childhood heroes. If you’d like to know more about the missions that came before this, watch “The Right Stuff”. It’s an amazing story. Sometimes, I realize how incredibly lucky I was to be alive during that time. I remember standing in my front yard with my dad watching the first satellite- Sputnik - pass overhead. Look where we are now. Love your reactions.
I remember when I was 15, looking up at the moon, knowing that in a few years men would walk on its surface. And I knew that I was in a special generation; we were the last to look at the moon as a place we had never been; for the next generation, it would just be a place men had visited. They could never see the moon the way we did, from both sides of history.
Also "From Earth To The Moon" - produced by the Apollo 13 film team - which covers the Apollo program from start to finish. So sad they had to cancel the final flights due to funding, and to date only 12 men have walked on the moon. If not for that O2 tank, it might have been 14.
Did you know, one of the physicists for the Apollo missions was so dedicated she continued to do work even while giving birth, that child was the actor Jack Black. *Seriously*
@Dawn Marie, My dad worked on the Skylab missions. I worked as a NASA contractor for 21 years during the Shuttle/Space Station and early Artemis program. I have taken planetary geology courses taught by a NASA geologist where we have seen rock samples from the moon. Of the 12 men who walked on the moon, I have met 5 of them, and worked with one of them. I can tell you, yes, absolutely we went to the moon.
Hope you're following the NASA Artemis program with the same excitement as I am; as it will finally establish a permanent human presence on the Moon. I'm very thrilled to still be alive in such heady times(fingers crossed); since listening to the original landing on Armed Forces Radio as a kid, and to finally see new footprints planted alongside Neil Armstrong. 🌕☮👍👍
@@waynezimmerman1950 It's great that the Artemis program is active, and will send astronauts to the moon again. I know that Starship will be the lunar lander, but I think once it's operational, it will quickly become obvious that Starship can replace SLS. I've been looking forward to returning to the moon most of my life and hopefully, finally, we will be able to go to Mars as well.
Yes, it really happened. There are always a lot of people who say a lot of things -- that the earth is flat for instance. Doesn't mean they have the slightest idea what they're talking about.
I was a space fanatic growing up and followed every mission the US launched. I was 15 when Apollo 13 was launched, and I agonized over every report. I truly thought these men would never return to the earth alive. I remember crying when they came through reentry alive and splashed down.
I was a child in elementary school during the Apollo missions. During the last eight years of my Navy career I performed Military Funeral Honors for Sailors who had passed. One of the funerals I performed, we arrived an hour before the services to make sure the Flag was folded correctly and placed correctly with the urn. As we entered the chapel there were two easels, one on each side of the table with the urn and flag. Each easel had a two by three foot picture on them, of the Sailor during his career. The one on the left side I do not remember what the picture was. The one on the right the photographer was inside a helicopter looking out the left side door. The picture had the vast Pacific, in the distance was the USS Iwo Jima. Between the photographer and the USS Iwo Jima, was another helicopter with a rescue swimmer in the air, half way between the helicopter, the swimmer jumped out of and the Pacific. A little closer to the photographer was the Apollo 13 Command Capsule. The Rescue Swimmer in the photograph, was the Sailor in the urn on the table. Just one of the many memorable Funerals I had the Honor and Privileged, to be able to perform Military Funeral Honors, for the family of my deceased Shipmate.
Those who say we never walked on the moon are officially called "idiots". I watched the launch and Armstrongs "walk" on the Moon, I was watching myself, with 2 other Buds. I also followed Apollo 13 mission.
The scene at the end of the film, where the Apollo 13 crew are being greeted by the crew of the aircraft carrier, if you'll notice Tom Hanks (Commander Jim Lovell) shaking hands with what appears to be the captain of the carrier. The man playing the captain is the REAL Jim Lovell. A nice touch.
Dawn, another great “ space movie “ to react to is “ The Right Stuff. “. It tells the story of how the NASA space program grew out of US Military Test Pilot programs. Not very historically accurate as A 13, but really well done fanciful drama of the journey of human flight to go faster and higher AND the “ space race “ between the US & the USSR. Should be a great follow-up to Apollo 13 reaction !!! 😎👍
The young electrician who insisted on keeping the Power draw under 20amps on restarting the Command module was playing the part of John Arron. John's gifted memory and ability to think on his feet became Legendary among the other Engineers at Houston Control. He single handedly saved more than one Apollo Mission with his quick thinking and analytical skills. Not bad for an Oklahoma Cattle Rancher. Flying the LEM (lunar excursion module, aka their "lifeboat") with the Command module attached had never been done before, let alone ever practiced. That wild "burn" the crew made as a course correction going back to Earth was learned as they flew it. What's really amazing is all the controls had to be operated in reverse compared to normal flight controls, and they only had grease pencil marks in a window as guidance because they couldn't turn on the Guidance computer. @ 30:55, Tom Hanks (playing Jim Lovell) is actually shaking the hand of Commander Jim Lovell. That was Lovell's cameo in this movie.
Great movie, especially since I was a “space kid” growing up in the Sixties. I remember watching the reentry coverage in the classroom in high school. Truly a great moment. I highly recommend you watch the old HBO miniseries “From the Earth to the Moon.” It tells the story of the U.S. manned space program and the Apollo moon landings through a different perspective in each episode. Well worth watching and a great history lesson for that time.
It was wonderful seeing someone experience this for truly a first time. In North America we all sort of knew the story but enjoyed the movie for telling it. The joy and happiness you showed filled my heart. Thanks.
When I was nine, my parents let me stay up past my bedtime to watch Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walk on the moon. (Armstrong was first). Apollo XIII happened when I was ten. When I heard Ron Howard was making this movie I knew it was a cool idea. Buzz Aldrin is 93 today. Next you should watch "The Right Stuff"
One of the worst consequences of it being so long since manned missions to the moon were abandoned is that we've got two generations since then with people who think the landings were faked. It's pathetic.
Oh, here's something cool - The real Jim Lovell is the Admiral that Tom Hanks salutes and shakes hands with as they walk onto the Navy ship at the end of the movie.
Dawn Marie, you are a real joy. Watched the original Apollo 11 moon landing, and Apollo 13 on TV, as it happened. So glad you enjoyed it and your heartfelt concern for the brave astronauts and their families. Thanks again for sharing.
I remember the Apollo 13 mission vividly. Everybody was on pins and needles. For everyone's information, the actual Apollo 13 capsule can be found at the Cosmosphere located in Hutchinson Kansas.
It's based on a book by the real Jim Lovell, I believe (who also plays the ships captain you see greeting them at the end; the real Marilyn Lovell is the older lady you can see in the launch scene also), so pretty accurate. Bit of dramatic license, but broadly as it was. I love that Ed Harris in real life didn't meet Gene Krantz but prepared by meeting the people who worked for him at NASA and finding out from them how he'd react!
What’s mind blowing is the relatively primitive technology that was utilized to run these missions. I think most apps on our smartphones have more bytes of memory than the computers used on the Apollo missions.
Ron Howard the director has several people from his family in this movie. His mother plays Jim Lovell's mother in the nursing home, his brother Clint plays Sy in the control room (the guy who recommends shutting down the fuel cells), his father plays the priest at the Lovell's house when things were going bad and his daughter plays one of the kids across the street before the launch. The real Jim Lovell is also in the movie as the Navy Commander who shakes Tom Hanks' hand at 30:54
God, I saw this at the theatre, but don't really remember it. One thing that you might not be aware of is Apollo 1 in 1967. There was a fire at the launch pad due to an oxygen leak, and three astronauts were killed...Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chafee. It was before my time, but somehow it is haunting. That is one of the real scares that were present for any astronauts, their loved ones, colleagues, the country, and the world. This was great to watch, Dawn Marie. And LOL, yes, "None of that stuff" regarding movie requests from Patreon members!!!! Keep it classy, as is a quote from a film you have not yet reviewed. I love your openness to learning things. Makes this the top movie reaction (or as I call them "watchalongs") channel that there is. It is inquisitve, and provides a different perspective. The commentary is ALWAYS exceptional and presented. I get some channels recommended, and the response range is "Oh wow" and "Yeah", and "No". This is the best by far! Thank you, Dawn Marie!!! You're truely deserving of a star!
It wasn't an oxygen leak. The initial design of the Apollo spacecraft used an atmosphere consisting of pure oxygen, just like the preceding Mercury and Gemini spacecraft did. The reason for this was so they could reduce the cabin pressure to 5 psi versus the typical 14.7 psi of normal ground pressure so they could reduce the weight of the spacecraft. On the day of the accident they were performing something called a plugs out test, where they were simulating the mission that they would be flying using the actual spacecraft, vice the simulators. FYI, they called it plugs out because for communication between ground and astronauts they would use the radio in the spacecraft, not the plugged in hard line on the pad. To correctly simulate the conditions in the spacecraft in space, they increased the internal pressure to around 17 psi. Now, NASA was constantly coming up with improve the spacecraft, and North American, the company contracted to build the CSM for NASA, was doing their best to keep up with the changes, many of which were a bit ad hoc. There was also mods that the astronauts were making using a new thing called Velcro. They put one side of it on a fixed part of the cabin, the other side on a piece of gear, and you would keep it from drifting around in the cabin. The problem with Velcro was that in the pure oxygen, it was highly flammable in 5 psi. At the 17 psi during the test, even things that wouldn't burn in natural atmosphere that is 79% nitrogen would violently combust! During the many updates, the insulation was abraded off of a wire, it arced sending a spark onto a patch of Velcro that started a massive fire. One of the design features of the spacecraft that was a change from the previous two, was that the internal cabin pressure sealed the hatch. With the expansion of internal pressure from the fire, the astronauts couldn't open the hatch to escape. The crew was killed from smoke inhalation when their breathing system burned through and toxic fumes were from the fire were forced into it. The fire went out when the pressure that built up inside the cabin split the pressure hull.
Yes I remember it. Primary school in England, there was a long TV programme which covered the entire landing, moonwalking, etc. But it had been recorded as it happened in the middle of the night for us, and we watched it on TV at school much of the next day. Lots of talking heads, models and animations showing the parts of the journey and describing the descent (the film was shown after they returned), then as-live TV of the moonwalk, the setting up of the experiments, when they moved the camera further away from the LM, until they got back in, all in one long showing. All these 10 year olds sat in the main assembly hall, trying to make sense of high-contrast TV, the part I remember most is the astronauts passing by the camera and 'ghosting' quite a bit, being see-through until they stood still, the setting up of their flag, the times they hopped, loped and ran past to demonstrate how they got around, all that.
A cell phone has more computing power than the entirety of nasa had at the time. Just incredible to think they sent humans to the moon multiple times with ancient hardware. Btw the 45hr mark wasn’t just on the other side of earth, it was a mark between the earth and the moon. They didn’t have enough power to even get close to landing
100% true , i was thinking that when they showed the shots of the command center and remembering the computing power of the craft. Basically a single pebble of sand compared to an entire beach today.
Well, you have to realise that Becky's status update and posting of her breakfast on Tiktok is a million times more important than the boring stuff Nasa does, so of course Becky should have many times more computing power...
The hardware was state of the art for the day, NASA used the majority of the IC's that were in production in the US at the time, Without NASA driving electronics production improvements we would probably be 20 years behind in tech terms today.
@@uncoolmartin460 So true. To me, comparing yesterday's technology with today is too easy to use as an excuse to basically say "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda." Since you cannot change the past, it is a total waste of breath.
Yes, this stuff made future missions safer. For one thing, they made the filters bigger and better and the same shape. For another thing, they came up with a better process for stirring O2 tanks that is less likely to explode. For another thing, they put redundant power systems in place to help restart the craft if future situations require the power to be shut off.
I definitely remember both the original moon landing and the Apollo 13 mission. The latter made for an interesting few days of news. It's gonna be interesting and fun to see Dawns reaction to these real life dramatics.
17:36 "You don't have to go all the way around. Just go to the closest part." That's not how this works. Remember back at 6:30 when they were practicing that very thing, coming back to earth, and they all died (in practice) because they came in to steep? They have to hit earth's atmosphere at a very shallow angle or they fry like three strips of Kevin Bacon in a frying pan... That shallow angle means they do end up going part way around. But it's the only way to not die.
A lovely film about one of the greatest triumphs the American space program has ever seen. They did take a lot of artistic license with how the crew behaved, especially the disagreement and finger-pointing. They really showed a unified front. And honestly, if you listen to the audio for the mission, their highly professional and level tone will bore you to tears.
I remember being a kid and my parents talking about the astronauts stuck in space trying to come home while we were driving at night looking at the moon. Totally true
Fun fact: During the crisis, the Command and Lunar Modules were renamed Lucy (Command) and Snoopy (Lunar). Everyone kept asking, "Will Snoopy be able to get Lucy home". The purpose of the Apollo Program was to beat the Russians to the moon, in Kennedy's words, "by whatever it takes". There was no plan for after. Kennedy's original plan was for one landing and then done. By Apollo 17, the country had lost total interest and the program was shut down. The amazing thing was the electronics were all switches, relays and wire. No computers. Almost everyone you see in the movie (and in the Apollo Program) were in their 20s and 30s. A lot of the engineers on the program were ex Avro engineers that lost their jobs when the Canadian government shut down the Arrow program a few years earlier. Some claim that without those engineers, NASA never would have made it to the moon.
A terrific quote I encountered recently has to do with Apollo 13..."NASA is absolutely not superstitious, but you can bet they will never launch anything numbered "13" ever again." Not sure if that is a real quote...but it does not seem that NASA has sent anything into space with the number 13 on it ever since, though commercial satellite companies have. Also...fun fact "consolation prize"...since they did not go into orbit around the Moon on their free return trajectory, Apollo 13 traveled a bit further away from Earth than all of the other flights to the Moon. So to this day, Lovell, Haise, and Swigert hold the record for the farthest distance from Earth people have ever traveled. I would definitely suggest you take a look at the details of this film...it is really terrific and accurate to reality in so many ways...but not all. The Astronauts raising their voices was dramatized, Swigert being behind the curve on training never happened, and a few other things in the movie did not really happen...but it is so excellent in so many ways.
The script was written using the transcripts from the mission, so it is absolutely accurate. There are some minor changes to some of the speaking lines, but the events are 100%accurate
The biggest difference that strikes me is the portrayal of Gene Kranz as the sole flight director that supervised the entire mission. He was on duty during the initial explosion and supervised the early troubleshooting, but there were actually four shifts of flight directors that rotated throughout the mission, including the emergency response. They were Glynn Lunney, Milton Windler, and Gerald Griffen, in addition to Kranz. Their jobs were just as critical while they were on duty, and its a shame for them to be forgotten. That's true for the other crews of flight controllers as well.
The people portrayed in this movie are heroes of engineering and science. Under huge pressure, and with no preparation, they had to invent ways to get 3 men in space back home safely. Getting into space was an incredible feat, and that took years of work and planning. Many engineers consider that what happened here exceeds that because of the life and death pressures these people were under, and there were so many unknowns.
Interesting fact, this movie was made with real zero gravity. Some of it was effects for scenes like them talking to each other and bopping up and down, but them twirling or flying through hallways was the real thing, filmed on a trainer plane going up and down with a set constructed on it, in 30 second bursts.
@@BubbaCoop Yeah technically there is no such thing as zero gravity. Even in space you are still constantly being pulled by the gravity of the nearest largest mass. You are always in freefall. In this film for instance it was either the moon or the earth's gravity depending on where the astronauts were.
I’m from Cape Canaveral, (Cape Kennedy at the time the movie is set.) I saw this in the theater on opening night. At the end they pulled up the lights and the theater owner announced that three of the men who worked mission control were in attendance. They stood up and got a huge standing ovation from the entire theater. It was very emotional. Also, Russia, India, China, Japan, Israel, and the EU space program have all orbited the moon multiple times with huge telescopes. If the US didn’t land there, everyone would know by now, so let’s squash that conspiracy theory.
Fun little fact: The older daughter was upset about the Beatles breaking up. Paul McCartney announced the break-up of The Beatles on April 10, 1970 - one day before the Apollo 13 launch.
I remember the Apollo 11 landing. Watched it on TV with my family (it was on every one of the two channels that we could get at that time in my area of Canada)... I'm 60 now, I was 5 then. I don't think my late-father cried, but he thought it was pretty amazing (he was born in 1922).
The Apollo missions changed everything in manned space flight because we actually went to and landed on another orbiting object in the Solar System. It was like an infant that decided to let go of the safety of the chair and stagger across the room to the outstretched arms of her smiling mother. We went somewhere else, camped out for a few days, and then returned home. No one else in recorded history had ever managed to do that! I was a memorized 11-year old boy who watched it all that hot July in 1969. Amazing!
_Greetings from the world of yesterday_ ... Being 58, I was around for all of the Apollo missions. I was a huge scifi fan, and going to the Moon meant a lot to me. I was only 4 when Armstrong set foot on the Moon. Oddly enough, while I know I watched Armstrong live, I have no clear memory of it. My sister was born that same week, so it's all mixed-in with memories of her birth. Like many early Gen-X scifi fans, I knew _everything_ about how the missions worked. I knew more about the spacecraft than most adults. When the Apollo 13 disaster occurred, I was generally glued to the TV. As a young child, I didn't understand what the phrase, "no possibility of help," really meant. It was only as I got older that I learned just how bad it really was. The film does a good job with the key events. It takes a few liberties with time. The film's portrayal of Jack Swigert as a rookie pilot who might make a mistake was pure Hollywood. In fact, Swigert had been training with the backup crew from Day One and was still training with them when he had to replace Mattingly. Backup crews don't stop training because a launch date is coming up. They train almost until the spacecraft is off the ground. No one had any doubts about Swigert's abilities. Many sources have specifically said that the finger-pointing conversation did not and would never occur between any two pilots in that circumstance. When you dive into it, the disaster was actually much worse than what Howard was able to portray in the screen time he had. He only hit the highlights. He didn't hit on "little things." For example, the crew learning to re-fly the LM takes less than five minutes of screen time. In reality, it was a knuckle-biting _hours_ before they thought they had it figured out. The LM was never designed to push the CM, so the center of mass, fuel-to-weight ratio ... it was all wrong. Controls worked almost opposite from the way they'd trained to use them. The umbilical from the CM to the LM wasn't designed to be reversed the way Mattingly wanted, to get more power to re-start the CM. The pilots had to work their way into cramped spaces to manually rewire it with a soldering iron. There were a million details like that which had to be glossed-over for time. It was a non-stop crap-fest from the moment the O2 tank blew until they jettisoned the LM. All the audio from the mission is available. I suggest that you listen to the audio to compare it to the film. It's very interesting to see how they kind of Hollywooded it up. Howard changed a now-famous quote. Here's what happened: The initial explosion happened and Swigert radioed down: "Houston, I think we've had a problem, here." That explosion caused the radio antenna to shudder, and Houston got a slightly garbled transmission. They asked Swigert to repeat what he said. Then the main explosion happened, causing Lovell to jump onto the comms. It was then that he radioed down: "Houston, we've had a problem." Ron Howard changed the line to, "Houston, we have a problem," because "we've had" seems like it happened in the past and was now over. It should be mentioned that Lovell didn't ask Swigert what he'd done in the moments following the initial explosion. He stuck his head up because he thought Haise had hit a pressure reset valve -- a prank Haise enjoyed. It made a bang and gave the other two pilots a moment of stress, but was otherwise harmless. When Lovell looked at Swigert and saw the perplexed look on his face, he knew it was no reset valve -- and by extension, they were probably in a lot of trouble. That's when the main explosion happened that took out an entire side panel of the Service Module. All those nits picked, the film does an extraordinary job at executing the disaster, the people involved, and the world's reaction, in a way that's consistently moving. It's a master class in directing. Ron Howard has said that the Apollo 13 launch is the most cinematic thing he's ever shot. Marilyn Lovell has said that Hanks got Jim's mannerisms and speech patterns so perfectly that when she saw his portrayal, she just said, "That's my Jimmy." This movie is an 11/10 on so many levels.
I followed the space program as a kid from Gemini all the way through the space shuttle, put together plastic model kits at everything from the mercury. Capsule, the Gemini and the Apollo, had the big model of the command module, and service module; the latter had a removable panel to show the section. Where is the damage occurred. During the Apollo 12 lunar excursion, I rode my bike from my house to my high school buddies place; I couldn’t believe people were just walking around, driving around and doing every day things while two men were walking on the face of the moon. History was going on, and people weren’t paying attention. I was disappointing when there wasn’t full coverage of Apollo 13 as it was on his way to the moon. But that changed when the explosion happened; then everybody in the world was focused on those three men between the Earth and the moon. And we knew there was nothing anybody here on earth could do to help them, they were on their own. A lot of prayers were spoken. Some very smart men worked very hard to give those three men what they needed to fix their ship and get back home.
One of my all-time favorite movies. Although Fred Haise never flew in space again, he was very instrumental in the development of the Space Shuttle. He was the lead test pilot during the Approach and Landing Tests (ALTs) of the Space Shuttle Enterprise, where they released it from the top of the 747 to test is flying and landing qualities. Due to his role, Haise was actually the first person to ever land the Space Shuttle, and he did so three times total during the ALT program. Regarding Swigert, it was actually lucky that he was on the mission. Among the astronaut corps, he was considered the resident expert on the Command Module, and he actually had a lead role in developing emergency procedures for the Command Module. Contrary to the Hollywood created tensions and apprehension about Swigert, everybody had complete confidence in him and his abilities when he was assigned to the mission.
@@blechtic Hardly. You apparently think reality begins and ends with Cinema or TV. Just as with Apollo 11 their flight was being watched and tracked from all around the world( ironically Australia was the location of two astronomy dish telescopes used to pick up and rebroadcast the Apollo 11 moon landing itself). This interesting movie is a well crafted drama that represents the well documented events that occurred using cinematic techniques. Nothing more.
The reason it got so cold is that all of the electronics generate heat so the ship was designed in a way that bled off the heat in a passive way. When the electronics were turned off, the heat stopped but the passive cooling couldn’t be stopped, so even what body heat they built up got pulled out. Lack of gravity mean that the bodies of the astronauts had enough gravity hold a small shroud of air around them which kept them a little warmer until they moved in any way. The Apollo 1 fire was basically just like it was described. The door was designed to open inward, so the pressure of the capsule would hold it closed. When the fire started, the crew basically got pinned against the door and stopped it from opening. The main thing that wasn’t accurate was that Kevin Bacon’s character was just as professional as everyone else. No one was worried about his ability. Even the wedding ring thing actually happened. The seats in the lander lay backwards to help with the g-forces of the launch. The radio cut out at the end was the longest of the moon missions, but the capsule came down closer to the recovery ship than any other. Neil was first out of the capsule, because his chair was closest to the door. Buzz was second to walk on the Moon, on the same mission (Apollo 11). A great follow up to this is The Martian. A prequel of sorts is The Right Stuff, which is a mostly true summary of the start of the US space program. Another great one that seems to have gone under the radar is Moon. It's totally fictional, but the first screening was for NASA scientists and they commended it on the realism.
The surface of the moon was not so much like sand, but flour. That's why boots left such a sharp impression. When you hear these conspiracy theory claims, you have to do much more than determine in your own mind whether they make sense. This is what experts are for and eventually you're going to have to trust much of what they say. If you don't, you're going to have to study and become one of them and convince the other experts they're wrong.
I was in technical training school at Lowry AFB, Colorado when Apollo 13 went sour. We all followed it second by second. I had been watching launches and orbitals since the first time in 1961 when the soviets launched Yuri Gagarian(spl) into space for a little over an hour. I really thought we would have been much farther along by now. So sad that we seem to have lost our nerve.
It's very depressing to see a grown adult, someone who has the right to vote, asking if the moon landing actually happened. It's not funny, it's just sad.
@@flynn-wp3ek Not just those who risked their lives, but to those who actually did lose their lives like with Challenger. She's just laughing at them. I'm unsubbing and leaving, taking my views elsewhere.
It's amazing how much people, who think they are intelligent, will let just anyone tell them what should be common sense, and that they should toss away what experts say in favor of what they think is their own common sense. In order for that to happen, your brain already has to be primed for a certain emotion coming from an important narrative. It's the emotion that convinces you, not facts or the truth. This is why I always tell people, when they see something on social media that appeals to their emotions (happy, sad, angry, comforted, doesn't matter), THAT is when they have to be most suspicious of the content.
What did you expect? She does this with every film, like everything in life is supposed to be a joke. I'm certain she acts this way to try to cover up her complete lack of intelligence.
Found on the web: "Lousma, the capsule communicator at Mission Control, Jim Lovell, the mission commander, responded: "Ah, Houston, we've had a problem." The 1995 film Apollo 13 used the slight misquotation "Houston, we have a problem", which had become the popularly expected phrase, in its dramatization of the mission."
What this movie misses is the fact that these men, these astronauts, were extremely dedicated and tough men. They had backgrounds as fighter pilots, some with combat experience. They were former test pilots with danger close by. They were engineers, had high IQs, were really overachievers, almost Renaissance men, and they knew how to die.
I was 16 in 1970 when these events happened, and I remember it all clearly, even the detail that Swaggert hadn't done his taxes. I watched all of the space missions that I could, from Mercury, through Gemini and Apollo, up to the Space Shuttle, and most definitely witnessed Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landing on the Moon and taking those historic steps. Armstrong was given the freedom to say whatever he felt appropriate when he set foot on the Moon. In fact, when the LEM landed, their hail of, "Tranquility Base, here. The Eagle has landed" caught NASA off guard. I was fortunate enough to see two launches (of the Space Shuttle) in person from the press area. Unforgettable. Three miles from the launchpad, yet the sheer power of a liftoff is palpable as a rumble to your core.
The ring Marilyn lost in the shower was her husband’s class ring from the naval academy. The motel manager was able to take the drain apart and retrieve it. A big factor in the authenticity of the movie is they didn’t dumb the dialogue down to explain everything. The audience didn’t need to know exactly what a SVS switch, or whatever, was. Many may not know this but on the TV commentary, the man sitting with Walter Cronkite was Wally Schirra, former astronaut who was the first person to fly in space three times and the only one to fly in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs.
My most distinct memory of the Apollo program was in 1967 when Gus Grissom, Chaffee and White died after their capsule exploded on the launch pad. At age 7 that made a big impression.
"Apollo 13" was about as historically accurate of a successful drama movie as could be produced.
They're some minor inaccuracies using dramatic license, such as the astrotronauts losing their cool, but otherwise, it's pretty accurate.
Ken Mattingly (who was in MC the whole time, it was Charlie Duke who was called from his bed), stated that it was Glynn Lunney that ran the show that night, and that he displayed amazing leadership. Im not trying to diminish Gene Kranz and i get that for the purpose of the movie he was the more dynamic character, but Lunney was in charge and thats completely rewritten for the movie.
@@paulinegallagher7821Funny thing is, even without the dramatic license it would have been riveting (as the actual event was back in the day). But, on the whole it was very close to what actually happened.
All fiction, alas.
@@LarryFleetwood8675Moon-hoaxer? Flat Earther?
@@JustWasted3HoursHere Maybe you are, if you're buying into the Moon lies you're being taught by these fraudsters.
buzz Aldrin actually punched a Moon landing denier for slandering him.
What's even better is that Buzz was 72 years old when that happened in 2002 and the dickwad he punched was at least 40 years younger. Gotta love those old time ex fighter pilot astronauts.
That guy had it coming, was being a real asshole about the whole thing
@@sortie9 He was actually the first to hold a doctoral degree as well from MIT
@@sortie9I had always thought Buzz was a test pilot not fighter, oh well lol the more you know haha.
Without a pen that I think Buzz had, they wouldn't have got the hatch open
This movie is about 95 percent accurate. It’s one of the most historically accurate movies ever made.
Well, except for the choir music in the background during suspenseful moments. NASA had to jettison plans for the Air Force Band vocalists to ride along, as there wasn't room for them in the capsule.
@@bobwait3629Nah uh! It was all there, Tom Hanks wouldn’t lie to us.
One of first movies to use NASA vomit comit!
The biggest inaccuracy was how they made Swaggert look like some amateur. Both Lovell and Haise said they had full confidence in him. Swaggert even helped design some of the instruments they used on the ship.
There was no yelling at each other during tense moments. These men were both test and fighter pilots. You don't get those jobs unless you have nerves of steel.
The History Buffs Channel did a video on this movie. He was very impressed with just about everything except the level of emotion. But he was clear the movie would be boring without it
It's amusing that so many reactors get worried the crew won't survive when the opening credits clearly say this is based on Jim Lovell's book. Tough to write a book if you're dead.
Not only did they not die, but aside from cancer getting Swigert, they have all lived very full lives. Jim is still with us, at age 95. 2023 was rough for him, though, because Marilyn passed in September and then Ken died on Halloween (age 90) and then his Apollo 8 commander, Frank Borman, died a week later, also 95.
(Borman is *almost* in this film. When they show the clip from "The Dick Cavett Show", we see Dick introduce Borman as his guest just before the news breaks in [and Ken turns off the TV anyhow])
But Fred is still with us at age 90 and Charlie Duke (who got the measles, but got over it, and ended up walking on the moon on Apollo 16 while Ken was orbiting as the pilot) is going along at age 88. So yeah, they lived some rather healthy lives. In fact, when John Young (the commander of the back-up crew, who walked on the moon with Charlie) is helping Ken run those tests, I couldn't understand why the actor wore glasses; I would think NASA only took astronauts with 20/20 vision.
(Unless that's meant to be another character named "John", but you'd think they would have changed it. IRL John Young *was* working with Ken, since he was about the only other person on Earth who knew what Ken knew.)
Neil and Buzz both walked on the moon, it's just that the commander goes down the ladder first. The crews always had a commander (Jim), a specialist (Fred) and a pilot (Ken/Jack). So Neil beat Buzz down the ladder for Apollo 13 and Jim would have beaten Fred down the ladder if this didn't go wrong and John Young beat Charlie Duke down the ladder on 16, but they all walked on the moon.
(In fact, Charlie is the youngest person to walk on the moon, being age 36 at that time. And even though we are scheduled to be back on the moon next year [the Artemis 3 mission], all of the candidates for that mission will be older than 36 by then, so Charlie gets to keep his record.)
@Jessica_Roth
It is indeed a different John - John Aaron, EECOM (Electrical System engineer) from Mission Control, who is probably just as famous for his role during the launch of Apollo 12, when the rocket was struck by lightning, as for his actions during Apollo 13... See "Set SCE to Aux" - He did wear glasses in reality.
John Young is actually promiently featured as well, although rarely ever in the focus of the scene - he's the guy who gets Ken from the hotel, and who is asking Ken if he needs a break. If you look earlier, you can see him walk into the sim, when the backup crew is called - aside from Lovell he is the only one who is wearing a patch from a previous mission.
Jim Lovell had a cameo at the end. He was the officer that Tom Hanks shakes hands with.
Obscure Trivia: Lovell has said that Howard nominally wanted him to portray one the visiting Admirals aboard the USS _Iwo Jima_ that day. Lovell insisted he be shown as a Captain, as that's the rank at which he retired.
Yes. Lovell played the captain of the aircraft carrier. So, the real Lovell shook hands with the actor portraying Lovell. :-)
I had the privilege/honor of meeting Captain Lovell a couple times back when he was running his restaurant in the suburbs North of Chicago.
He seemed to still live up to being quite an exceptional person and to be a cool guy.
He also had a cameo in "The Man Who Fell To Earth".
@@mokane86 He became a restauranteur? I never knew that. What kind of restaurant was it?
A few years back I saw a documentary that included Gene Kranz -- the mission control head played by Ed Harris -- being interviewed. Decades later, he still was on the verge of tears remembering this.
‘Failure is not an Option’; m.th-cam.com/video/7f51Jzm7M4w/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUibmFzYSBmbGlnaHQgY29udHJvbGxlciBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D
I saw this movie when it came out and I still get tears today.... and I was only an infant when Neil and Buzz walked on the moon. In my book Gene Kranz can get emotional about his work and never be in danger of losing his man card.
He insists that he never said "failure is not an option", and that it was falsely attributed to him. But still used it as the title of his autobiography
I used to be a space museum curator. I’ve given multiple presentations on this mission, and know more about it than any normal human wants. That being said, my favorite story about the moon landings involved an expedition to contact a contemporary Neolithic tribe in the heart of Borneo, who had never had contact with the modern world. The anthropologists reached them in the early 80s, and they had heard from other tribes that men had walked on the moon. That is how big of a deal it was.
It's still a really big deal.
That is so cool. That is incredible. Do you remember the name of the tribe, or know where I might find out more about them? Also, which museum did you work for?
@@odysseusrex5908 I am afraid that I do not recall further details, though it might have been in a National Geographic . Infinity Science Center, across the interstate from Stennis Space Center, which is where NASA tests rocket engines.
I don’t call people an idiot lightly, but if you’ve studied this deeply, and still propagate it actually happened then you’re an idiot. It’s utterly transparently a hoax.
I was fortunate enough to purchase a "Footprints on the Moon" diorama from a gentleman who worked for NASA, "just down the hall" from Wernher von Braun. It is, of course, a prized possession. Being a huge NASA geek, I watch everything about it, and especially loved the mini-series "From Earth To The Moon" which was produced by Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, Tom Hanks (all associated with this film) and Michael Bostick. I'm sure you've enjoyed it too, but they sort of show stuff like that ... all the preparation that went into these incredible journeys. What a great comment ... thank you for sharing it!
Fun fact Scott "Scooter" Altman was a Shuttle Pilot (like the equivalent to a 1st officer in a commercial airliner jet or which ever used for public etc, just NASA's terminology for the STS missions) for two NASA STS missions and the Flight Commander (captain in a usual commercial jet or likewise) for two further missions.
Was the pilot in a Gruemann F12 Tomcat that did some of the piloting for the movie Top Gun, he's the one who "flipped the bird" and gave the MiG pilot the middle finger lol, he was a pilot in the US Navy, was the flight commander for the last Hubble Space Telescope mission.
I watched the 1st landing on the moon on TV when I was 6. One night I walked out on the back step of the house and looked up at the moon, and knew that people were on there. That was a consciousness shift in my young mind.
Saw it on TV when I was 6 as well. Everybody who had a TV watched it, it was a world-uniting event.
I was a bit younger but I remember being at my family's vacation home and watching our little black & white television that we had there.
Lucky man. I was 1 year old when Apollo 11 landed on the moon.
I was 5 and remember seeing the landing. Afterward, my dad took me outside and pointed at the moon and told me that was where the astronauts were.
It somewhat registered with me, though being only 5, the significance of that event didn't mean much because I distinctly remember being upset that my mom told me it was time to take a bath and go to bed.
When you're 5, you have your own idea of life, eh?
@@notmyrealname1730 Indeed. The loss of a toy car through a ventilation grate still bothers me. LOL
It did, however, teach me to not "drive" my cars around those ever again.
The line that always sends a shiver up my spine, is when Jim Lovell says "Gentlemen, it's been a privilege flying with you."
As he's saying that, he knows they could all be dead in less than 3 minutes.
I remember watching it in my living room as it happened. And yes it really happened. The conspiracy stuff has been thoroughly debunked
To say the conspiracies have been debunked gives them too much credit if you ask me.
If there had been even the tiniest inkling it was faked, the USSR would have started round-the-clock coverage claiming we never got there.
And any amateur with a telescope could follow the space craft going to the moon and returning.
There were about 400,000 people involved in the space program.
The astronauts returned with about 50 pounds of moon rocks which were analyzed by labs all over the planet, who could have spotted a fake. (There is a big difference in the chemistry of rocks exposed the conditions on earth and those in the vacuum of space.)
Hmmm, so they got to you, too.
We Never Went To The Moon.People believe we went to The Moon,because they saw it on A Talking Box.If that Talking Box told You to jump off a cliff;would You?
If we really did go to The Moon over 50 years ago,we would All be flying across The Stars by now.We would be wearing completely different and futuristic clothes.The World would be a completely different place,but it is not.The World and people themselves are largely the same in terms of social problems,style,psychology,evil,transportation and others.Barely Anything has changed.There are even more problems today.There was no Worldwide Transformational Space-Aged Wave/Event/Incident that completely altered our Human way of life!That Never Happened!
@@TheUnfulfilledOneyou're right. Columbus never crossed the Atlantic too. If he had we would be at the stars already. It's all fake about Columbus. As a matter of fact you and I don't exist. We are just the figments of a dream of somebody who lives someplace we don't even know about.
Niel Armstrong was mission commander of "Apollo 11", and was the first man to set foot on the moon. Buzz Aldren was Lunar module pilot for "Apollo 11" and was the second man on the moon.
I remember watching all of the Apollo missions while in High School.
Ultimately, the cause of the mishap was caused by two things. First two years prior, when the SM was being designed there was a whole batch of cryo tanks being built for the program. One of them meant to be an O2 tank was accidentally dropped about 6 inches onto a hard surface. Nothing visual was detected wrong, but a minute crack in a wire insulator inside the tank leading to the stirring fan happened. Second, as part of the integration testing on the launch pad they wanted to test everything on the ground, including the plumbing for the cryo tanks. Problem was a design change for the voltage in the heater element in the tank was not matched with ground support systems, so that the ground cryo test overpowered the heater so much that it was welded into a permanent on state, and the procedure for testing left the heater running uncontrolled for about 8 hours, which further compromised the wiring. Comes the launch things were still running fine at liftoff because the wiring was still covered in LOX which cannot ignite a fire. But 55 hours later when Swigert did the cryo stir the tank had been emptied enough that some of the O2 in the tank had evaporated into gaseous oxygen, which was ignited by a spark on the fused fan wiring. That caused the explosion as at that moment the cryo gas was still at 200+ psi and now burning. That was enough to blow out the whole side of the SM.
That's the problem with people trying to cover their behinds.
I've read Jim Lovell's book "Lost Moon". The problem that led to the disaster was a thing nobody caught onto until way after the event.
Basically, human error.
Most engineering faults are a result of failure of imagination, and therefore a management failure, not one of workmanship. The ground support systems were a legacy of the Mercury and Gemini missions, and their Air Force flight test regimes. That had a tendency to design around military aviation power busses of 65 volts DC. So was the Saturn rocket. But the Apollo spacecraft, while at first also being 65 volts was later changed as a response to the Apollo 1 fire so that lower voltage potentials were extant inside the spacecraft, ironically as a measure to reduce the risk of electrical faults and fires. But ground support systems were not. Not too enormous a problem for normal operations, but the physical damage in the cryo tank also kept it from draining completely dry during wet ground test. Somebody had a bright idea for a field expedient of leaving the cryo heater on for 8 hours so the LOX would evaporate away completely. The cracked wiring prevented tbe temp sensor from tripping and shutting off the heater. The internal temp in tne tank got up to I believe almost 800 degrees. Hours of that and by golly wire insulation melts and thermocouples fuse. This could not have been detected short of cutting the tank open and making visual inspection, and putting telemetry sensors for all possible contingencies would have added over a ton of mass and the rocket could not be launched. What was later done to prevent this sort of thing from happening again was strict adherence to quality control. A dropped pressure vessel should have raised red flags and the tank scrapped. Other things like field expedient and undocumented procedures were ruthlessly pruned away. Later disasters such as Challenger only happened when the political operatives regained authority to override that principle in the name of expediency and "go fever".
Do you know with what the Oxygen did react? I mean pure Oxygen alone cannot burn/explode.
@@christophtoifl6848 And in a vacuum. Lots of problems. If the tank content were contaminated with something flammable, or had a leak only manifesting in the gas phase then other materials, such as abraded insulation or structure made of aluminum or magnesium then an o2 ignition could occur, even in a vacuum.
Jim Lovell spoke at my college graduation in 1995, 2 or 3 weeks before this movie came out, so it holds a special place in my heart. It's a great story about perseverance and the will of man overcoming obstacles and impossible odds.
I recall this being much more exciting and frightening to watch on television as it happened.
I had wondered where I was during this since I could not remember watching it on TV. Looked at the date .. April 11-17 1970. Okie Dokie. I was arriving in Vietnam and .. well ...
I both envy and don't envy you that.
I wish I could have lived to see the Moon landing and all the landings in general, all the launches and all the talk about it.
It must've been an exciting time in terms of seeing our own specie expand our universal reach.
@@eTraxx I was getting ready to graduate .... High School!
Yes, me too , because nobody knew what the outcome was
Dawn has a lot of old men watching her videos.
Gene Kranz used to get a different waist coat made by his wife for every mission he directed (he's still alive even now), was NASA's 2nd Chief Flight Director.
I remember watching with my extended family, Neil Armstrong stepping off the ladder for the first step on the Moon. I was almost 6 years old. Feeling the tension in the room, Grandad (born 1902) exclaimed loudly, "Look out! It's going to get him!". Everyone jumped! Grandad was quite a joker in a Will Rogers kind of way. People might not admit it now, but on everyone's mind was, what if a Moon monster jumps out and devours Neil Armstrong?
People just didn't know. We weren't even sure, if the Moon was made of cheese or not!
I also remember being a little annoyed, that the Command Module & Lunar Module weren't named "Charlie Brown" & "Snoopy", as they'd been on Apollo 10.
"Snoopy has landed" didn't have the same ring to it. 😂 They sent a Snoopy plush up on Artemis 1. He didn't get to land on the moon either! 😂
@@markieman64 But "The Beagle has landed" for sure has a certain ring to it.
@@dolf370that is a quality joke right there.
I was 12, and yes - there was some concern that they might sink into the surface - even if only enough so they couldn't get back when the rockets fired.
Tom Hanks saying "We just lost the moon" has always hit me more than "Houston, we have a problem". That's the moment this movie really becomes a rescue mission, when they know the original mission is no longer possible.
Oh dawn I remember watching the moon walk on our old black and white tv with a wire clothes hanger for the antenna lol. My brother had taken me that day to a Boston red sox game and when the announcement came over the loudspeaker that the astronauts had landed the whole stadium erupted with cheers. Then watching the first walk on the moon was probably my most memorable moment. ❤
Tom Hanks went on to produce an HBO miniseries in the style of Apollo 13 about the rest of the space race called "From The Earth To The Moon". I think you'd really love it. It covers Mercury, Gemini, Apollo 1, the designing of the lunar module, etc. I'd love to see a reaction to that series too!
For the episode about Apollo 13, since this movie had already been done, they chose to focus on (a fictionalized version of) the journalists who covered the missions.
Yes !
would love to see Dawn react to this series . It's brilliant
I listened to the audiobook - it was great!
Yes, it really happened. Was not a hoax. I was 14 when this happened. It was so exciting watching it on TV. I remember it being so scary and tense when we waited for the splash down. Great movie! By the way, the wedding ring thing really happened, but Marilyn did get it back.
We listened to it on our teacher's radio, I remember it was just after our lunch break,
You were so scared that you had a splash down?
Dear Fellow,All The Moon Landings Were a Hoax
I was 13 when this happened. I was and am still a big space buff. I watch the SpaceX missions when I can.
What I find most impressive is listening to the actual transmissions between the astronauts and NASA. Everyone was so calm, collected, and methodical, one would never have guessed anything was wrong, based on the tone of their voices. Truly remarkable and worthy of respect. Thanks for sharing your reaction! Liked and subscribed!
In the book The Right Stuff, Tom Wolfe describes how so many American military pilots of that generation did all they could to emulate the uber-calm and quietly confident vocal mannerisms of Chuck Yeagher, best known to the public as the first person to break the sound barrier, but renowned among his fellow pilots as the guy they all wanted to be when they grew up.
Technicaly, they were supposed to be heard worldwide. The emotions had no place on the air. But more importantly, those astronauts were chosen mainly for their capacity at keeping a clear mind in any situation, Can you imagine what kind of people you need to sit willingly on a 30 story high bomb that will be lit in 3, 2, 1 ,,,
@@user-mg5mv2tn8q Very cool! Thank you for sharing that!
Dawn Marie If you haven't seen it yet, "October Sky" is another true space movie. It's about kids building rockets. One went on to work for NASA. It is a must watch.
October Sky is a good movie.
But in reality his father was actually very supportive.
They made the change for the movie to provide conflict and drama.
A great film by such an underrated actress too. I absolutely adore! Laura dern and her father.
Well, you just ruined the movie, so...
GREAT movie.
@@pistonburner6448 True, he just did didn’t he. 😂 🚀
I just find it strange that there are people that have never heard of Apollo 13 and what happened
2:49 Remember what Lieutenant Dan said when he showed up with his new legs?
"Titanium alloy.. It's what they use on the space shuttles."
“If you’re ever a shrimp boat captain, that’s the day I’m an astronaut.”
@@Parallax-3D When Jenny is leaving Washington DC on the bus, Forrest does what appears to be the Baphomet "As is above, so is below" occult hand gesture.
✌🏼 with both hands.
"Everything happens for a reason"...one of the most inane, dangerous mindsets humanity has yet concocted.
I'm old enough to remember both the Challenger failure (the one you saw, where the craft failed during launch) and obvs the Columbia failure. The whole world seemed to stop and acknowledge how brave astronauts were, then everything went back to normal and we forgot how amazing Humans can be.
My father helped design the microcircuits that were used in the Apollo missions, I still have his Apollo team ID. Great reactions Dawn Marie :)
That's awesome! I worked with a guy who worked for Grumman when they built the lunar lander. I'm pretty sure he worked on the lander but its been so long i cant remember for sure.
very cool!@@NoChance345
Proof?
Houston, we have a Dawn reaction.
If I’m not mistaken, I believe the real Jim Lovell appeared in the film at the end in the Admiral’s uniform, shaking hands with Tom Hanks after they were recovered.
To answer your question about what was real - pretty much all of it - including Mrs Lovell losing her wedding ring, but they did manage to get it back for her. The biggest change to add dramatic licence was around the 'tension' between the crew because when you actually listen to the recordings of the crew and Houston there was very little. They had a problem, they worked together to fix it, calmly and coolly. It's a mark of the men these guys were and the ground staff that supported them. I love this film and it's a mark of a great one when you can feel on the edge of your seat - even through repeat viewings - despite knowing how it ends. And I still cry every time at that audio crackle, the look from his son, the cut to the parachutes and then Lovells voice. Fantastic performances all around including James Horner for his music score.
Imagine being the maintenance engineer of that hotel, tasked with getting Mrs Lovell's wedding ring back to her.... I'd have been reaching for a jackhammer.
What is REALLY incredible is most of these command center technicians and specialists were in their twenties, basically just out of school. The computers they were using had a minuscule amount of the power of our smart phones. Kathleen Johnson, heroine of the movie "Hidden Figures" worked on computations for Apollo 11 and many other flights.
@@chadbennett7873So did Margaret Hamilton, who developed a way to prove that her code could never crash the Apollo Guidance Computer, no matter what was input on its sensors, or its keypad, or the state of its memory. A major milestone in fault-tolerant computing.
@@AlanCanon2222 Outstanding addition to the point!! Nice!
Not only did I see the first steps on the moon on TV, but I saw all Apollo launches from Apollo 10 on from Titusville, Florida, just 12 miles away from the launch pad.
I was 19 when this happened and had been a follower of the space program as soon as I could walk. These guys were my childhood heroes. If you’d like to know more about the missions that came before this, watch “The Right Stuff”. It’s an amazing story. Sometimes, I realize how incredibly lucky I was to be alive during that time. I remember standing in my front yard with my dad watching the first satellite- Sputnik - pass overhead. Look where we are now. Love your reactions.
I remember when I was 15, looking up at the moon, knowing that in a few years men would walk on its surface. And I knew that I was in a special generation; we were the last to look at the moon as a place we had never been; for the next generation, it would just be a place men had visited. They could never see the moon the way we did, from both sides of history.
Also "From Earth To The Moon" - produced by the Apollo 13 film team - which covers the Apollo program from start to finish. So sad they had to cancel the final flights due to funding, and to date only 12 men have walked on the moon. If not for that O2 tank, it might have been 14.
I'm 71 and yes I remember it and yes it was amazing ! The waiting for a signal through the comms blackout was scary as heck. Peace...
Did you know, one of the physicists for the Apollo missions was so dedicated she continued to do work even while giving birth, that child was the actor Jack Black.
*Seriously*
I believe she was actually a mathematician/programmer who was doing guidance system work
@@shawnmiller4781 thanks for the clarification, but it's wild isn't it?
@Dawn Marie, My dad worked on the Skylab missions. I worked as a NASA contractor for 21 years during the Shuttle/Space Station and early Artemis program. I have taken planetary geology courses taught by a NASA geologist where we have seen rock samples from the moon. Of the 12 men who walked on the moon, I have met 5 of them, and worked with one of them.
I can tell you, yes, absolutely we went to the moon.
Hope you're following the NASA Artemis program with the same excitement as I am; as it will finally establish a permanent human presence on the Moon. I'm very thrilled to still be alive in such heady times(fingers crossed); since listening to the original landing on Armed Forces Radio as a kid, and to finally see new footprints planted alongside Neil Armstrong. 🌕☮👍👍
@@waynezimmerman1950 It's great that the Artemis program is active, and will send astronauts to the moon again. I know that Starship will be the lunar lander, but I think once it's operational, it will quickly become obvious that Starship can replace SLS. I've been looking forward to returning to the moon most of my life and hopefully, finally, we will be able to go to Mars as well.
Yes, it really happened. There are always a lot of people who say a lot of things -- that the earth is flat for instance. Doesn't mean they have the slightest idea what they're talking about.
I was a space fanatic growing up and followed every mission the US launched. I was 15 when Apollo 13 was launched, and I agonized over every report. I truly thought these men would never return to the earth alive. I remember crying when they came through reentry alive and splashed down.
I was a child in elementary school during the Apollo missions. During the last eight years of my Navy career I performed Military Funeral Honors for Sailors who had passed. One of the funerals I performed, we arrived an hour before the services to make sure the Flag was folded correctly and placed correctly with the urn. As we entered the chapel there were two easels, one on each side of the table with the urn and flag. Each easel had a two by three foot picture on them, of the Sailor during his career. The one on the left side I do not remember what the picture was. The one on the right the photographer was inside a helicopter looking out the left side door. The picture had the vast Pacific, in the distance was the USS Iwo Jima. Between the photographer and the USS Iwo Jima, was another helicopter with a rescue swimmer in the air, half way between the helicopter, the swimmer jumped out of and the Pacific. A little closer to the photographer was the Apollo 13 Command Capsule. The Rescue Swimmer in the photograph, was the Sailor in the urn on the table. Just one of the many memorable Funerals I had the Honor and Privileged, to be able to perform Military Funeral Honors, for the family of my deceased Shipmate.
Thanks for your service Shipmate. OS1 USN Retired here
Imagine watching all this unfold LIVE!! We all cheered, & cried in my living room, watching our then Black & White TV.
Those who say we never walked on the moon are officially called "idiots". I watched the launch and Armstrongs "walk" on the Moon, I was watching myself, with 2 other Buds. I also followed Apollo 13 mission.
The scene at the end of the film, where the Apollo 13 crew are being greeted by the crew of the aircraft carrier, if you'll notice Tom Hanks (Commander Jim Lovell) shaking hands with what appears to be the captain of the carrier. The man playing the captain is the REAL Jim Lovell. A nice touch.
Dawn, another great “ space movie “ to react to is “ The Right Stuff. “. It tells the story of how the NASA space program grew out of US Military Test Pilot programs. Not very historically accurate as A 13, but really well done fanciful drama of the journey of human flight to go faster and higher AND the “ space race “ between the US & the USSR. Should be a great follow-up to Apollo 13 reaction !!! 😎👍
The young electrician who insisted on keeping the Power draw under 20amps on restarting the Command module was playing the part of John Arron. John's gifted memory and ability to think on his feet became Legendary among the other Engineers at Houston Control. He single handedly saved more than one Apollo Mission with his quick thinking and analytical skills. Not bad for an Oklahoma Cattle Rancher.
Flying the LEM (lunar excursion module, aka their "lifeboat") with the Command module attached had never been done before, let alone ever practiced. That wild "burn" the crew made as a course correction going back to Earth was learned as they flew it. What's really amazing is all the controls had to be operated in reverse compared to normal flight controls, and they only had grease pencil marks in a window as guidance because they couldn't turn on the Guidance computer.
@ 30:55, Tom Hanks (playing Jim Lovell) is actually shaking the hand of Commander Jim Lovell. That was Lovell's cameo in this movie.
Great movie, especially since I was a “space kid” growing up in the Sixties. I remember watching the reentry coverage in the classroom in high school. Truly a great moment.
I highly recommend you watch the old HBO miniseries “From the Earth to the Moon.” It tells the story of the U.S. manned space program and the Apollo moon landings through a different perspective in each episode. Well worth watching and a great history lesson for that time.
“Does anyone remember that in real life? “ 😂 Ask anyone in their 60’s. Literally anyone.
It was wonderful seeing someone experience this for truly a first time. In North America we all sort of knew the story but enjoyed the movie for telling it. The joy and happiness you showed filled my heart. Thanks.
When I was nine, my parents let me stay up past my bedtime to watch Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walk on the moon. (Armstrong was first). Apollo XIII happened when I was ten. When I heard Ron Howard was making this movie I knew it was a cool idea. Buzz Aldrin is 93 today.
Next you should watch "The Right Stuff"
One of the worst consequences of it being so long since manned missions to the moon were abandoned is that we've got two generations since then with people who think the landings were faked. It's pathetic.
Oh, here's something cool - The real Jim Lovell is the Admiral that Tom Hanks salutes and shakes hands with as they walk onto the Navy ship at the end of the movie.
Dawn Marie, you are a real joy. Watched the original Apollo 11 moon landing, and Apollo 13 on TV, as it happened. So glad you enjoyed it and your heartfelt concern for the brave astronauts and their families. Thanks again for sharing.
I remember the Apollo 13 mission vividly. Everybody was on pins and needles. For everyone's information, the actual Apollo 13 capsule can be found at the Cosmosphere located in Hutchinson Kansas.
It's based on a book by the real Jim Lovell, I believe (who also plays the ships captain you see greeting them at the end; the real Marilyn Lovell is the older lady you can see in the launch scene also), so pretty accurate. Bit of dramatic license, but broadly as it was. I love that Ed Harris in real life didn't meet Gene Krantz but prepared by meeting the people who worked for him at NASA and finding out from them how he'd react!
What’s mind blowing is the relatively primitive technology that was utilized to run these missions. I think most apps on our smartphones have more bytes of memory than the computers used on the Apollo missions.
Ron Howard the director has several people from his family in this movie. His mother plays Jim Lovell's mother in the nursing home, his brother Clint plays Sy in the control room (the guy who recommends shutting down the fuel cells), his father plays the priest at the Lovell's house when things were going bad and his daughter plays one of the kids across the street before the launch. The real Jim Lovell is also in the movie as the Navy Commander who shakes Tom Hanks' hand at 30:54
Captain lovell
The real Jim Lovell was the Navy Captain shaking Tom Hanks hand at the end of the movie.
God, I saw this at the theatre, but don't really remember it. One thing that you might not be aware of is Apollo 1 in 1967. There was a fire at the launch pad due to an oxygen leak, and three astronauts were killed...Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chafee. It was before my time, but somehow it is haunting. That is one of the real scares that were present for any astronauts, their loved ones, colleagues, the country, and the world. This was great to watch, Dawn Marie. And LOL, yes, "None of that stuff" regarding movie requests from Patreon members!!!! Keep it classy, as is a quote from a film you have not yet reviewed. I love your openness to learning things. Makes this the top movie reaction (or as I call them "watchalongs") channel that there is. It is inquisitve, and provides a different perspective. The commentary is ALWAYS exceptional and presented. I get some channels recommended, and the response range is "Oh wow" and "Yeah", and "No". This is the best by far! Thank you, Dawn Marie!!! You're truely deserving of a star!
It wasn't an oxygen leak. The initial design of the Apollo spacecraft used an atmosphere consisting of pure oxygen, just like the preceding Mercury and Gemini spacecraft did. The reason for this was so they could reduce the cabin pressure to 5 psi versus the typical 14.7 psi of normal ground pressure so they could reduce the weight of the spacecraft. On the day of the accident they were performing something called a plugs out test, where they were simulating the mission that they would be flying using the actual spacecraft, vice the simulators. FYI, they called it plugs out because for communication between ground and astronauts they would use the radio in the spacecraft, not the plugged in hard line on the pad. To correctly simulate the conditions in the spacecraft in space, they increased the internal pressure to around 17 psi. Now, NASA was constantly coming up with improve the spacecraft, and North American, the company contracted to build the CSM for NASA, was doing their best to keep up with the changes, many of which were a bit ad hoc. There was also mods that the astronauts were making using a new thing called Velcro. They put one side of it on a fixed part of the cabin, the other side on a piece of gear, and you would keep it from drifting around in the cabin. The problem with Velcro was that in the pure oxygen, it was highly flammable in 5 psi. At the 17 psi during the test, even things that wouldn't burn in natural atmosphere that is 79% nitrogen would violently combust! During the many updates, the insulation was abraded off of a wire, it arced sending a spark onto a patch of Velcro that started a massive fire. One of the design features of the spacecraft that was a change from the previous two, was that the internal cabin pressure sealed the hatch. With the expansion of internal pressure from the fire, the astronauts couldn't open the hatch to escape. The crew was killed from smoke inhalation when their breathing system burned through and toxic fumes were from the fire were forced into it. The fire went out when the pressure that built up inside the cabin split the pressure hull.
Yes I remember it.
Primary school in England, there was a long TV programme which covered the entire landing, moonwalking, etc.
But it had been recorded as it happened in the middle of the night for us, and we watched it on TV at school much of the next day.
Lots of talking heads, models and animations showing the parts of the journey and describing the descent (the film was shown after they returned), then as-live TV of the moonwalk, the setting up of the experiments, when they moved the camera further away from the LM, until they got back in, all in one long showing.
All these 10 year olds sat in the main assembly hall, trying to make sense of high-contrast TV, the part I remember most is the astronauts passing by the camera and 'ghosting' quite a bit, being see-through until they stood still, the setting up of their flag, the times they hopped, loped and ran past to demonstrate how they got around, all that.
A cell phone has more computing power than the entirety of nasa had at the time. Just incredible to think they sent humans to the moon multiple times with ancient hardware.
Btw the 45hr mark wasn’t just on the other side of earth, it was a mark between the earth and the moon. They didn’t have enough power to even get close to landing
100% true , i was thinking that when they showed the shots of the command center and remembering the computing power of the craft. Basically a single pebble of sand compared to an entire beach today.
I believe my washing machine has more computing power than the Apollo missions had .
Well, you have to realise that Becky's status update and posting of her breakfast on Tiktok is a million times more important than the boring stuff Nasa does, so of course Becky should have many times more computing power...
The hardware was state of the art for the day, NASA used the majority of the IC's that were in production in the US at the time, Without NASA driving electronics production improvements we would probably be 20 years behind in tech terms today.
@@uncoolmartin460 So true. To me, comparing yesterday's technology with today is too easy to use as an excuse to basically say "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda." Since you cannot change the past, it is a total waste of breath.
Yes, this stuff made future missions safer.
For one thing, they made the filters bigger and better and the same shape.
For another thing, they came up with a better process for stirring O2 tanks that is less likely to explode.
For another thing, they put redundant power systems in place to help restart the craft if future situations require the power to be shut off.
I definitely remember both the original moon landing and the Apollo 13 mission. The latter made for an interesting few days of news. It's gonna be interesting and fun to see Dawns reaction to these real life dramatics.
17:36 "You don't have to go all the way around. Just go to the closest part."
That's not how this works.
Remember back at 6:30 when they were practicing that very thing, coming back to earth, and they all died (in practice) because they came in to steep?
They have to hit earth's atmosphere at a very shallow angle or they fry like three strips of Kevin Bacon in a frying pan...
That shallow angle means they do end up going part way around.
But it's the only way to not die.
A lovely film about one of the greatest triumphs the American space program has ever seen. They did take a lot of artistic license with how the crew behaved, especially the disagreement and finger-pointing. They really showed a unified front. And honestly, if you listen to the audio for the mission, their highly professional and level tone will bore you to tears.
I remember being a kid and my parents talking about the astronauts stuck in space trying to come home while we were driving at night looking at the moon. Totally true
I always cry at the end… tears of joy 😊. Btw: Ed Harris deserved the Oscar for supporting actor ❤. Dear Dawn: I recommend First Man (2018)
Fun fact: During the crisis, the Command and Lunar Modules were renamed Lucy (Command) and Snoopy (Lunar). Everyone kept asking, "Will Snoopy be able to get Lucy home". The purpose of the Apollo Program was to beat the Russians to the moon, in Kennedy's words, "by whatever it takes". There was no plan for after. Kennedy's original plan was for one landing and then done. By Apollo 17, the country had lost total interest and the program was shut down. The amazing thing was the electronics were all switches, relays and wire. No computers. Almost everyone you see in the movie (and in the Apollo Program) were in their 20s and 30s. A lot of the engineers on the program were ex Avro engineers that lost their jobs when the Canadian government shut down the Arrow program a few years earlier. Some claim that without those engineers, NASA never would have made it to the moon.
A terrific quote I encountered recently has to do with Apollo 13..."NASA is absolutely not superstitious, but you can bet they will never launch anything numbered "13" ever again." Not sure if that is a real quote...but it does not seem that NASA has sent anything into space with the number 13 on it ever since, though commercial satellite companies have.
Also...fun fact "consolation prize"...since they did not go into orbit around the Moon on their free return trajectory, Apollo 13 traveled a bit further away from Earth than all of the other flights to the Moon. So to this day, Lovell, Haise, and Swigert hold the record for the farthest distance from Earth people have ever traveled.
I would definitely suggest you take a look at the details of this film...it is really terrific and accurate to reality in so many ways...but not all. The Astronauts raising their voices was dramatized, Swigert being behind the curve on training never happened, and a few other things in the movie did not really happen...but it is so excellent in so many ways.
I'm a 62 yr old man & yes i do remember sitting in front of our tv's watching this.
so awesome that you loved this amazing movie [aerospace engineer here]
you should consider the space classic "The Right Stuff" from 1983
The sheer emotion of every character in this movie when Aquarius finally makes contact gets me every single time.
The script was written using the transcripts from the mission, so it is absolutely accurate. There are some minor changes to some of the speaking lines, but the events are 100%accurate
The biggest difference that strikes me is the portrayal of Gene Kranz as the sole flight director that supervised the entire mission. He was on duty during the initial explosion and supervised the early troubleshooting, but there were actually four shifts of flight directors that rotated throughout the mission, including the emergency response. They were Glynn Lunney, Milton Windler, and Gerald Griffen, in addition to Kranz. Their jobs were just as critical while they were on duty, and its a shame for them to be forgotten. That's true for the other crews of flight controllers as well.
The people portrayed in this movie are heroes of engineering and science. Under huge pressure, and with no preparation, they had to invent ways to get 3 men in space back home safely.
Getting into space was an incredible feat, and that took years of work and planning. Many engineers consider that what happened here exceeds that because of the life and death pressures these people were under, and there were so many unknowns.
Interesting fact, this movie was made with real zero gravity. Some of it was effects for scenes like them talking to each other and bopping up and down, but them twirling or flying through hallways was the real thing, filmed on a trainer plane going up and down with a set constructed on it, in 30 second bursts.
Not "zero gravity" though.
The plane accelerates towards the earth at the same rate as gravity so they're literally in freefall along with the plane.
The "Vomit Comet"......
@@BubbaCoop Yeah technically there is no such thing as zero gravity. Even in space you are still constantly being pulled by the gravity of the nearest largest mass. You are always in freefall. In this film for instance it was either the moon or the earth's gravity depending on where the astronauts were.
There were no hallways but, yeah.
That is not an interesting fact because it is not a fact. The freefall that they used is not real zero gravity.
7:56 "A _vest?_ From his _wife._ For _good_ luck."
For _tradition,_ Dawn. NASA does not _bank_ on luck. It's _not_ a place for superstition.
7:38 Ages ago, I had this movie on VHS. The launch sequence got me going _every_ time. It's an _awesome sequence._
27:43 The reentry sequence, too.
I’m from Cape Canaveral, (Cape Kennedy at the time the movie is set.) I saw this in the theater on opening night. At the end they pulled up the lights and the theater owner announced that three of the men who worked mission control were in attendance. They stood up and got a huge standing ovation from the entire theater. It was very emotional.
Also, Russia, India, China, Japan, Israel, and the EU space program have all orbited the moon multiple times with huge telescopes. If the US didn’t land there, everyone would know by now, so let’s squash that conspiracy theory.
Yes Dawn, it really happened. How do I know? Because it is is easier to just do it than fake it😊
Fun little fact: The older daughter was upset about the Beatles breaking up. Paul McCartney announced the break-up of The Beatles on April 10, 1970 - one day before the Apollo 13 launch.
I remember the Apollo 11 landing. Watched it on TV with my family (it was on every one of the two channels that we could get at that time in my area of Canada)... I'm 60 now, I was 5 then. I don't think my late-father cried, but he thought it was pretty amazing (he was born in 1922).
The Apollo missions changed everything in manned space flight because we actually went to and landed on another orbiting object in the Solar System. It was like an infant that decided to let go of the safety of the chair and stagger across the room to the outstretched arms of her smiling mother. We went somewhere else, camped out for a few days, and then returned home. No one else in recorded history had ever managed to do that! I was a memorized 11-year old boy who watched it all that hot July in 1969. Amazing!
Great reaction as always. Great movie choice. You should watch The Right Stuff next as it gives you all the background of the space program.
Love that movie. I would argue that it's a prequel.
And also First Man (2018) which tells the story about leading up to the Apollo 11 mission.
"Steely eyed missile man" is the ultimate compliment to give a controller.
_Greetings from the world of yesterday_ ...
Being 58, I was around for all of the Apollo missions. I was a huge scifi fan, and going to the Moon meant a lot to me.
I was only 4 when Armstrong set foot on the Moon. Oddly enough, while I know I watched Armstrong live, I have no clear memory of it. My sister was born that same week, so it's all mixed-in with memories of her birth.
Like many early Gen-X scifi fans, I knew _everything_ about how the missions worked. I knew more about the spacecraft than most adults.
When the Apollo 13 disaster occurred, I was generally glued to the TV. As a young child, I didn't understand what the phrase, "no possibility of help," really meant. It was only as I got older that I learned just how bad it really was.
The film does a good job with the key events. It takes a few liberties with time.
The film's portrayal of Jack Swigert as a rookie pilot who might make a mistake was pure Hollywood. In fact, Swigert had been training with the backup crew from Day One and was still training with them when he had to replace Mattingly.
Backup crews don't stop training because a launch date is coming up. They train almost until the spacecraft is off the ground. No one had any doubts about Swigert's abilities.
Many sources have specifically said that the finger-pointing conversation did not and would never occur between any two pilots in that circumstance.
When you dive into it, the disaster was actually much worse than what Howard was able to portray in the screen time he had. He only hit the highlights. He didn't hit on "little things."
For example, the crew learning to re-fly the LM takes less than five minutes of screen time. In reality, it was a knuckle-biting _hours_ before they thought they had it figured out. The LM was never designed to push the CM, so the center of mass, fuel-to-weight ratio ... it was all wrong. Controls worked almost opposite from the way they'd trained to use them.
The umbilical from the CM to the LM wasn't designed to be reversed the way Mattingly wanted, to get more power to re-start the CM. The pilots had to work their way into cramped spaces to manually rewire it with a soldering iron.
There were a million details like that which had to be glossed-over for time. It was a non-stop crap-fest from the moment the O2 tank blew until they jettisoned the LM.
All the audio from the mission is available. I suggest that you listen to the audio to compare it to the film. It's very interesting to see how they kind of Hollywooded it up.
Howard changed a now-famous quote. Here's what happened:
The initial explosion happened and Swigert radioed down: "Houston, I think we've had a problem, here." That explosion caused the radio antenna to shudder, and Houston got a slightly garbled transmission. They asked Swigert to repeat what he said. Then the main explosion happened, causing Lovell to jump onto the comms. It was then that he radioed down:
"Houston, we've had a problem."
Ron Howard changed the line to, "Houston, we have a problem," because "we've had" seems like it happened in the past and was now over.
It should be mentioned that Lovell didn't ask Swigert what he'd done in the moments following the initial explosion. He stuck his head up because he thought Haise had hit a pressure reset valve -- a prank Haise enjoyed. It made a bang and gave the other two pilots a moment of stress, but was otherwise harmless.
When Lovell looked at Swigert and saw the perplexed look on his face, he knew it was no reset valve -- and by extension, they were probably in a lot of trouble. That's when the main explosion happened that took out an entire side panel of the Service Module.
All those nits picked, the film does an extraordinary job at executing the disaster, the people involved, and the world's reaction, in a way that's consistently moving. It's a master class in directing. Ron Howard has said that the Apollo 13 launch is the most cinematic thing he's ever shot.
Marilyn Lovell has said that Hanks got Jim's mannerisms and speech patterns so perfectly that when she saw his portrayal, she just said, "That's my Jimmy."
This movie is an 11/10 on so many levels.
I followed the space program as a kid from Gemini all the way through the space shuttle, put together plastic model kits at everything from the mercury. Capsule, the Gemini and the Apollo, had the big model of the command module, and service module; the latter had a removable panel to show the section. Where is the damage occurred.
During the Apollo 12 lunar excursion, I rode my bike from my house to my high school buddies place; I couldn’t believe people were just walking around, driving around and doing every day things while two men were walking on the face of the moon. History was going on, and people weren’t paying attention.
I was disappointing when there wasn’t full coverage of Apollo 13 as it was on his way to the moon. But that changed when the explosion happened; then everybody in the world was focused on those three men between the Earth and the moon. And we knew there was nothing anybody here on earth could do to help them, they were on their own. A lot of prayers were spoken. Some very smart men worked very hard to give those three men what they needed to fix their ship and get back home.
One of my all-time favorite movies. Although Fred Haise never flew in space again, he was very instrumental in the development of the Space Shuttle. He was the lead test pilot during the Approach and Landing Tests (ALTs) of the Space Shuttle Enterprise, where they released it from the top of the 747 to test is flying and landing qualities. Due to his role, Haise was actually the first person to ever land the Space Shuttle, and he did so three times total during the ALT program. Regarding Swigert, it was actually lucky that he was on the mission. Among the astronaut corps, he was considered the resident expert on the Command Module, and he actually had a lead role in developing emergency procedures for the Command Module. Contrary to the Hollywood created tensions and apprehension about Swigert, everybody had complete confidence in him and his abilities when he was assigned to the mission.
It had to have all really happened. No sane person would fake the Apollo 13 disaster.
Technically, that is exactly what they did making this movie.
@@blechtic well, they did have little things like computers and CGI ... 😉
@@blechtic Hardly. You apparently think reality begins and ends with Cinema or TV. Just as with Apollo 11 their flight was being watched and tracked from all around the world( ironically Australia was the location of two astronomy dish telescopes used to pick up and rebroadcast the Apollo 11 moon landing itself). This interesting movie is a well crafted drama that represents the well documented events that occurred using cinematic techniques. Nothing more.
@@sortie9 It is literally a fake Apollo 13 disaster.
The reason it got so cold is that all of the electronics generate heat so the ship was designed in a way that bled off the heat in a passive way. When the electronics were turned off, the heat stopped but the passive cooling couldn’t be stopped, so even what body heat they built up got pulled out.
Lack of gravity mean that the bodies of the astronauts had enough gravity hold a small shroud of air around them which kept them a little warmer until they moved in any way.
The Apollo 1 fire was basically just like it was described. The door was designed to open inward, so the pressure of the capsule would hold it closed. When the fire started, the crew basically got pinned against the door and stopped it from opening.
The main thing that wasn’t accurate was that Kevin Bacon’s character was just as professional as everyone else. No one was worried about his ability. Even the wedding ring thing actually happened.
The seats in the lander lay backwards to help with the g-forces of the launch.
The radio cut out at the end was the longest of the moon missions, but the capsule came down closer to the recovery ship than any other.
Neil was first out of the capsule, because his chair was closest to the door. Buzz was second to walk on the Moon, on the same mission (Apollo 11).
A great follow up to this is The Martian.
A prequel of sorts is The Right Stuff, which is a mostly true summary of the start of the US space program.
Another great one that seems to have gone under the radar is Moon. It's totally fictional, but the first screening was for NASA scientists and they commended it on the realism.
16:38 - 'theres a lot of dispute over the footprint' - amongst the mentally defective, perhaps.
If I didn't see this comment, I would have made it
As with Roger & millions of others we watched it with our families. On our black & white TV 🙂
The surface of the moon was not so much like sand, but flour. That's why boots left such a sharp impression. When you hear these conspiracy theory claims, you have to do much more than determine in your own mind whether they make sense. This is what experts are for and eventually you're going to have to trust much of what they say. If you don't, you're going to have to study and become one of them and convince the other experts they're wrong.
I was in technical training school at Lowry AFB, Colorado when Apollo 13 went sour. We all followed it second by second. I had been watching launches and orbitals since the first time in 1961 when the soviets launched Yuri Gagarian(spl) into space for a little over an hour. I really thought we would have been much farther along by now. So sad that we seem to have lost our nerve.
It's very depressing to see a grown adult, someone who has the right to vote, asking if the moon landing actually happened.
It's not funny, it's just sad.
Not to mention seriously disrespectful to the astronauts who risked their lives and the entire team of scientists that made the moon landing happen.
@@flynn-wp3ek Not just those who risked their lives, but to those who actually did lose their lives like with Challenger. She's just laughing at them.
I'm unsubbing and leaving, taking my views elsewhere.
It's amazing how much people, who think they are intelligent, will let just anyone tell them what should be common sense, and that they should toss away what experts say in favor of what they think is their own common sense.
In order for that to happen, your brain already has to be primed for a certain emotion coming from an important narrative. It's the emotion that convinces you, not facts or the truth. This is why I always tell people, when they see something on social media that appeals to their emotions (happy, sad, angry, comforted, doesn't matter), THAT is when they have to be most suspicious of the content.
What did you expect? She does this with every film, like everything in life is supposed to be a joke. I'm certain she acts this way to try to cover up her complete lack of intelligence.
My understanding was that she was alluding to the conspiracy theory that the moon landing was a fake, not that she actually thought so.
I love love when she says "best movie ever" 😊
Listening to Dawn try to give NASA advice was honestly quite aggravating
Found on the web: "Lousma, the capsule communicator at Mission Control, Jim Lovell, the mission commander, responded: "Ah, Houston, we've had a problem." The 1995 film Apollo 13 used the slight misquotation "Houston, we have a problem", which had become the popularly expected phrase, in its dramatization of the mission."
What this movie misses is the fact that these men, these astronauts, were extremely dedicated and tough men. They had backgrounds as fighter pilots, some with combat experience. They were former test pilots with danger close by. They were engineers, had high IQs, were really overachievers, almost Renaissance men, and they knew how to die.
I don't think the movie misses that at all.
That point was made when Lovell was telling his story about landing the fighter jet on the Carrier in combat. You must have dozed off.
I've seen the movie 100 times. No, I stand by my word. Maybe it's my own background plying in. @@kbrewski1
The movie doesn't miss any of that at all. Maybe you're thinking of a different movie?
I was 16 in 1970 when these events happened, and I remember it all clearly, even the detail that Swaggert hadn't done his taxes. I watched all of the space missions that I could, from Mercury, through Gemini and Apollo, up to the Space Shuttle, and most definitely witnessed Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landing on the Moon and taking those historic steps. Armstrong was given the freedom to say whatever he felt appropriate when he set foot on the Moon. In fact, when the LEM landed, their hail of, "Tranquility Base, here. The Eagle has landed" caught NASA off guard. I was fortunate enough to see two launches (of the Space Shuttle) in person from the press area. Unforgettable. Three miles from the launchpad, yet the sheer power of a liftoff is palpable as a rumble to your core.
I never heard a good argument that it was faked and Ive heard a lot.
The ring Marilyn lost in the shower was her husband’s class ring from the naval academy. The motel manager was able to take the drain apart and retrieve it.
A big factor in the authenticity of the movie is they didn’t dumb the dialogue down to explain everything. The audience didn’t need to know exactly what a SVS switch, or whatever, was.
Many may not know this but on the TV commentary, the man sitting with Walter Cronkite was Wally Schirra, former astronaut who was the first person to fly in space three times and the only one to fly in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs.
Dawn, luv ya dearly but your science teacher should be ashamed. Lol
My most distinct memory of the Apollo program was in 1967 when Gus Grissom, Chaffee and White died after their capsule exploded on the launch pad. At age 7 that made a big impression.