Defensive Electronic Countermeasures (1962)

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  • @missingno3391
    @missingno3391 9 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Somehow, all these old videos explain things so much better than many of the learning resources we have today.

    • @b.griffin317
      @b.griffin317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      people were more common-sense and less full of themselves back then. they didn't think they were talking to fellow specialists and instead explaining things to somebody who knew nothing of the subject matter but wanted/needed to learn.

    • @possiblyadickhead6653
      @possiblyadickhead6653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      also these system where quite simple compared to todays systems.

    • @SogenOkami
      @SogenOkami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think it's the other way around. These old documentaries \ instructional videos cut the bullshit and just explain the concepts clear and concisely. Modern documentaries are put together in a way that I feel like I have to take half a bottle of adderall after blasting through a six pack.

    • @possiblyadickhead6653
      @possiblyadickhead6653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SogenOkami modern docs are shit. They are just focused on getting ad money lol

    • @SogenOkami
      @SogenOkami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@possiblyadickhead6653 I think their production is cynical in that they assume the viewer is going to be some dumbass kid like the kind you find in schools. If I'm trying to learn about the F-35's CoS PowerPC processor than they are trying to market to the wrong demographic with that kind of production mindset.

  • @liddz434
    @liddz434 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Can only imagine how both sides of this equation has evolved in the last 50 years! fascinating stuff!

    • @Lightning_Mike
      @Lightning_Mike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Latest thing in service, the new EW package Arleigh Burke has (or will have) AI-powered phased array systems that will allow them to be used as radar warning receivers, jammers, radios and janky radars, capable of dealing with newly discovered threats on the fly.
      The rate at which stuff advances is mind-boggling.

    • @acebubbles5023
      @acebubbles5023 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Prowlers we’re able to send harms at specific cellphones in Iraq in the early 2000s

  • @Bendejo301
    @Bendejo301 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome. I KNOW my dad must have watched this reel while training familiarization for EKA-3B aircrew early in his Navy career.

  • @someguy59566
    @someguy59566 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thanks for posting! It's odd subject material, but I found the whole thing to be entertaining.

    • @airboyd
      @airboyd  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Riley Koczera It's one of those things where it's kind of interesting to see how these things work. It's always hard to decide what to upload and what to discard. Thanks for watching.

    • @Rafael09ED
      @Rafael09ED 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      AIRBOYD Upload everything so even if it is not interesting to most, someone who might need it in the future might be able to find it!

    • @someguy59566
      @someguy59566 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      AIRBOYD I totally agree. ECMs were one of the things about military aircraft that I never fully understood. Although this video is dated, it still gave me better insight into how they physically work.

    • @airboyd
      @airboyd  9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rafael09ED You should see the hate mail I get sometimes ;)

    • @Rafael09ED
      @Rafael09ED 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      AIRBOYD o.O

  • @norman191000
    @norman191000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing to get such a film in the 60's you would have to risk your life as a spy and only handful of pilots were allowed to see it. Now it's on youtube for every goon and geek interested :)

  • @TheNovum
    @TheNovum 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh. More of this please!!!!!!

  • @kavijackson868
    @kavijackson868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was in the 60's fast forward 60 years to now imagine what we got and aren't being told and don't know about!?🤔🤯

    • @iTzzproclan
      @iTzzproclan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The radio wave hits the enemy plane snd goes inside the engine blades to exactly identify the plane type

  • @pimpinaintdeadho
    @pimpinaintdeadho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Old tech; Imagine how much more information our engineers have to deal with today!(F-35/F-22)

    • @jakobole
      @jakobole 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But also have computers to sort and fuse the information together in one coherent overview.

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently they found it more complex than this in real life, judging by how difficult they found it in Vietnam. But obviously they would be optimistic in training videos. I find this old ecm equipment interesting, what i really want to know about is old radar systems. You got any videos like this for radar operators?

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Vietnam definitely demonstrated the limitations of airpower of the day (although a significant factor there were draconian ROEs that left aircraft vulnerable while flying predictable paths). The losses of that war directly led to the creation of the Wild Weasels whose job it is to degrade and destroy enemy AA systems, the heart of which is electronic warfare which allows the suppression of the enemy's radars until such time as anti-radiation missiles can be employed.

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    20:45 the source of most UFOs? 🤔

    • @bmbpdk
      @bmbpdk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly my thought, its very plausible that it was secret jammer testing instead

  • @OznerpaGMusiC
    @OznerpaGMusiC 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    brilliant shit - thanks for the upload!

  • @AviationPlus
    @AviationPlus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was beautiful. *tear

  • @TriPham-xd9wk
    @TriPham-xd9wk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Build a end bible as an amplifier away from our position and as staging point when apply our inverter signal

  • @alexv3357
    @alexv3357 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They did all this with vacuum tubes in 1960, shit

  • @TriPham-xd9wk
    @TriPham-xd9wk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ground radar is extremely worry some specially Northwestern Pacific. If we use passive mirror enemy emission could help if they attacking us using inductive inverter

  • @mike94560
    @mike94560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that stuff is ancient. But they still use TWTs to get that high power output. Nowadays they have computers for the smarts.

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol "the A2F"? This is an oldie, isn't it? This must have been just as the A-6 was just coming out. People forgot later what a tech marvel that plane was for the day. Day and night, fully radar guided attack jet, guided weapons? Pretty agile to. People forget that even slow jets are pretty hot planes, and the A-6 could carry a massive warload.

  • @fantom5894
    @fantom5894 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A2F = A-6A

  • @ericpham8205
    @ericpham8205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we polarize opponent but get our signal through the polarized aignal

  • @shyamasingh9020
    @shyamasingh9020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for illuminating me with valuable information at most critical time because as expected the cloak of invisibility underlying the depths of dense darkness that defies so called laws of the dead land is best leveraged by offensive enemy inside against naked weak citizenry.

  • @flyingtigre1
    @flyingtigre1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what were these ECM's used for vietnam? or some other treat back in the early 60's?

    • @jakobole
      @jakobole 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SA-2's

  • @AvgeekJoe
    @AvgeekJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:55 - the A2F is better known as the A-6A Intruder

    • @tjr7424
      @tjr7424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bring back the Whale!

  • @stinkfloyd1
    @stinkfloyd1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember, nobody wants to be a "Mr Bungle".

  • @CenobiteBeldar
    @CenobiteBeldar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if low flying altitude can help reduce radar detection.

    • @b.griffin317
      @b.griffin317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      many before you have thought the same.

    • @justforever96
      @justforever96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously, we have only been doing that for about 70 years now. He even _says _ that in the first few minutes of this video. I mean how can you know enough about military stuff to somehow end up watching this video, but not be aware of the reason all attack aircraft fly low level profiles and have since the early 60s? That's a pretty basic piece of information.
      "Hey guys, I was just thinking, what if we took a tractor and put armor and guns on it, we could use it to attack the enemy trenches without losing thousands of soldiers!"

    • @henrikoldcorn
      @henrikoldcorn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justforever96 I reckon if I get a stick that’s longer than the other guys, I’ll be able to poke him before he can poke me!

  • @leosedf
    @leosedf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:33 Today's NATO radars have mitigated this problem, they transmit an encoded digital pulse to the target and if they don't receive the same pulse back they reject anything else and they do send a different code each time, making it extremely hard to jam. They don't even get affected by chuff.

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's go take on Leningrad, or Hanoi!

  • @TonniClips
    @TonniClips ปีที่แล้ว

    Warthunder?

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not understand the reasoning behind the "do not turn on early" discussion.
    If there is a 3 sector antenna tracking your random emissions they can track you without your knowing.

    • @Ad4785-r8d
      @Ad4785-r8d 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because while you might be out of range for a signal bouncing back from your aircraft your ECM is amplifying a false return. The enemy radar receives this false return. That's my understanding anyway.

  • @S300V
    @S300V 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This all looked good on paper but than Vietnam war came along and these things didnt realy work as advertised.

  • @nickbreen287
    @nickbreen287 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this worked then why did the SA-2's over Hanoi manage to hit so many planes? I have to assume that there are counter-counter measures?

    • @VERGIS92
      @VERGIS92 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      these techniques are basic and assume single antenna radar, but with 2 or 3 antennas and a radar that uses doppler and geometry data it'd be much harder to fool as deception would have to be equally transmitted to 3 different targets. the other problem mainly with soviet missile systems, is that they have very powerful radars, so it's never simple to fool them, it takes a lot of technical intelligence reports to fool them, today they have complex radar that combine passive and active radar and complex algorithms, radar deception is best achieved with drones

    • @jank330
      @jank330 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      VERGIS92 actually this lead to the development of the growler a/c first the f101 and then the a6 were somewhat successful and became as important strategically as the f4 or strategic bombers

    • @nickbreen287
      @nickbreen287 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      VERGIS92
      Ah, so is that why when you see pictures of EW aircraft they carry like 6 or 7 pods. I think I have seen US Navy planes like the A6 with a pod on every hardpoint.

    • @nickbreen287
      @nickbreen287 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      VERGIS92
      And thanks for posting, nobody ever explains how those things actually work.

    • @jank330
      @jank330 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well ya I would be the first to admit that the early models were kind of hit and miss but it didnt take very long before the airforce established wild weasel anti sam strike teams which did have some success also it must be said that the air war during the vietnam war resulted in the us airforce becoming the leader in this field.

  • @ericpham8205
    @ericpham8205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    we should camouflage all antenae in case enemy down our plane they could not decode our system or we could disguise them to deceiving their engineers

  • @michelt.8753
    @michelt.8753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question : did the Soviet Union have similar capabilities ? : (
    I mean lock-on breakers.....