Do Fuel Additives REALLY Help MPG?
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- We know fuel prices are out of control and we are all feeling the pinch. We’ve heard fuel and oil additives can help, but is it true? Hot Shot’s Secret joins us today to tell us what they’ve found through testing and development. How much can you really get in mpg and does it help other parts of the truck?
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Have been using hot shots everyday treatment for many years in 2 of my diesel trucks. Haven't seen much MPG increase but the lubricity factor has assisted in the fuel system. Even the fass lift pump has benefited.
Reminds me of an infomercial late at night.
I use hotshot oil treatment in all my gas vehicles, noticed less vibration, my gas truck went from 12.5 mpg to 14.5-15 on long trips, I will continue using their products
I use Archoil 9100 with every oil change (5,000 miles) and their fuel treatment at each fill up in my 2002 7.3 PS and I can’t find any increase in power or MPG, but I had to finally lift the engine out to change my leaking oil pan and I changed out my glow plugs at the same time. Journals and bearings looked like new and I pulled an injector on each bank and found no issues. That’s 500,000 plus miles with no real issues except for some of the usual 7.3 suspects, water pumps, belts, etc. Proper maintenance with quality additives will save you from huge repair costs in the long run.
You haven't been using those additives for all of those miles so you can't actually know if they helped. I haven't used them and my 450k mile 7.3 is running just fine.
In San Diego we're seeing renewable diesel 95% biomass. Cetane's way up there. Not seeing any change in my mpg. '07 5.9 Cummins. I've never seen any increase in fuel economy and I've tried a dozen including HS..
I use the EDT every fill up on my GMC Canyon works great 👍 went from 26mpg to 31mpg. Great product.
Lies
Its a great little engine
Love it Very Honest Talk with Kyle From Hot Shot's Secret , Nice to hear some one being that way !! :)
I been using the edt for the past few months and I was averaging 14.5 on my lbz bow I am at 15.5 almost 16 so I am happy about that
I have used the stiction eliminator and the fuel additive FOR YEARS and in my opinion and experience it was waisted money it doesn’t work I have spent thousands of dollars a year also with recipes to back this up and to keep it short and simple I did a inframe at a caterpillar dealer on a cat c13 I have pictures and paper work also to back this up and it DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING my injector tips were black with normal wear the wear was normal no different no better and my fuel economy was pulled from ECM and has been consistent since I have had the truck for 10 years so MPG also did not change like they claim …I tell everyone from experience GOOD OIL and REGULAR OIL CHANGES that’s it that’s all that is needed !!!! Non of the products from hot shot secret contributed to my engine running any better at 950 thousand miles when I did my overhaul also didn’t look any better then any other engine that has been overhauled this last statement came from the gentleman that has been at Carolina cat for 27 year’s who did my overhaul so yeah supper disappointed to find out several years later ..
Project farm tested all the big diesel additives and hot shot secrets does make a difference. F3 doesn’t do much but firepunk punk saw a 5% increase in hp on the dyno in several trucks…
When you add up the cost of these additives I wonder if you can recoup the expense? A friend ran Stanadyne every tank for 120K and the lift pump still went out. He's just putting diesel in now. Same fuel economy.
@@davidanderson8469 what model of pump?
The best additive is dump a quart of 30# motor oil but don’t do this if you have emissions motor .
@@brentmcmahon8188what does this motor oil do and is tht 30weight only?
great content thank you
Thanks for watching!
Thx. I’m still cooking Borax into my motor oil and put it in everything I own. Great podcast
Never heard of this what does that do?
@@iansteward4708 it cleans carbon and bonds to steel parts to protect. Oil already has boron in it. I’m just adding more
Great info
Definitely keep talking about this stuff. Would love to hear some real feedback from everyone. I really want to try it on my gas car now to see how much it could improve.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching the episode, let us know the improvement on the car after you try it!
Hot Shot’s Secret makes specific additives for use in gasoline engines. The Diesel Extreme and Every Day Treatment (EDT) products are made specifically for use only in Diesel engines. Our family has tried both of these Diesel treatments in our Diesel John Deere tractors and our family’s Mercedes Sprinter, and they have improved power, quieted the Diesel injector clatter, and removed water from the tanks. The mileage numbers have improved about 15%.
This was a very interesting pod cast. I heard a lot of great things; better economy, longevity do due to lubricity and anti-gelling. Great things for the engine and fuel system. I didn't hear anything about when this burns off in the combustion process.
Do Hot Shots have any data from tests with emission systems? I would really hate to plug up my diesel particulate filter after using 300 gallons of fuel. Have they worked closely with any particular tuners to see if any difference is see over a long period? (Say 10K miles)
I so wish there was a stack of white paper data (testing) - independent-unbiased organization--> proving that these products perform as they advertise. Not just Internet word of mouth.
Why don’t you do it ?
@@TruckingTendencies - I’m not a lab!
@@klforrest573 ALRIGHT!
@@TruckingTendencies so until that time happens, there is not 100% positive proof that these products perform as they advertise. ALRIGHT!
@@klforrest573 for lubricity they have one comparing it to the competitors. Independent lab testing. It left the least wear scar.
Ask that man how I get a hotshots coozie!? Need that one for the collection!! Love the show my friend!
I have only used EDT once so far, I can see the difference in pick up and smoother running but so far gas mileage has gone down a bit. Drove a route I take very often with my 2021 6.7 Litre powerstoke and set cruise control where I normally do( around 65 miles per hour or approx 108km per hour. Mileage was noticeable less but realize it may take a couple uses. At least I hope that is the case.
It def works. Nothing crazy but it does help! Plus other benefits
I noticed at first it didnt do shit but after a few runs i ended up gaining about a 1 mpg more
I've only used the diesel extreme addictive. My 2012 150,000 mile bmw felt the best it ever has. My normal trip to work I went from 41mpg too 54mpg range. I've got stiction and fr3. Adding it into my differential. Will continue to use these products. Definitely need to try a few other products like edt
I live in Florida and this is great information I am interested though as to where I can get this additive you're speaking of to put in my Duramax to get better mpgs?
On my 2000 F250 Super Duty with 7.3 powerstroke I use opti-lube products and I suck out the hpop reservour and I put in 16.oz of Archoil AR9100. It helps my injectors on the oil side and I noticed. My coolant temp was lower after doing an oil change. On my 1986 M1009 CUCV with 6.2 I use opti-lube products and I add 8.oz of Archoil AR9100 to the engine oil.
Why do you empty the hpop reservoir vs. just adding it to the engine oil…isn’t it all the same oil?
@@iansteward4708 The oil in the HPOP pretty much stays there and never gets cycled out and mixed with the rest of the oil.
@@throngcleaver This is a common misconception, it's constantly flowing through. What he's doing is giving the injectors and high pressure pump a short term mega-overdose of additive. Replacing that much oil with additive might be doing harm instead of good. Replacing the oil in the HPOP reservoir gives you a slightly more complete oil change, but there's way more old oil still sitting in the heads and the rest of the system.
Thanks, Donzi! I'll never listen to Ford dealer mechanic again.
@@throngcleaver Most dealership techs know little to nothing about these unless you find an 'old timer'. I doubt Ford does any training on this old technology.
Hey I am a first timer and going to buy your products tomorrow 2015 ram 6.7 142000kms Thanks for the podcast!!
Is there any test done between hotshot secret products and Archoil products and opti-lube products?
Love Hot Shot!!
As my review stated: I have a 2013 Ram 1500 Laramie w/5.7 and 84,000 miles on it. I added the Gasoline Extreme to the fuel. On average for the last 5 years, I have only been able to average 13 mpg or less. Lately on average 12 mpg. On the highway I would be lucky to get 16 to 17 on level ground. After adding the supplement, my average fuel economy is now 15+ mpg and I can get 21-22 mpg on the highway. This is the first fuel additive that has actually had results that I could see. More power also, smoother running. I am impressed. Also, I have a Kioti tractor that has always had very loud injectors. Banging or popping sound. I added the diesel fuel additive and the LX4 fuel lubricant. It stopped that noise immediately. And last, we added the fuel treatment to a 2017 Jetta SEL with 64,000 miles. Highway mpg has increased. Cruising we are getting +/-34 mpg where at best we were getting 30-31. We're sold.
You need to modify your bottles where your Every Day measures the product just as the smaller bottles. It is hard to judge them equally! I use EDT at every fill, and the other at every 1k mile dose. I need you to set the bottles where they are measured for me.
Is it best to add cetane booster before or after you fill up your diesel? Or does it not matter. I’ve always assumed it was best at the pump before you fill up just so it mixes good with the fill up.
Should not matter, it mixes evenly while you drive. Does not separate while sitting either.
@@mikz86ta1 sounds good thanks
The way I have been doing it, because you have to have how many gallons you add before you add the additive, I fill mine until it stops, add the additive, and then top off the tank, usually like .2 gallons. So it washed it down the neck, but I know how much I need. Hope this makes sense.
I feel the best time to add Diesel or Gasoline additives is right before refueling, so that the treatments get more fully blended with the incoming Diesel or Gasoline. This especially helps to blend the additives with any existing water in your fuel tank, as water sinks to the bottom of the tank. Refueling helps to distribute additives throughout not only the existing fuel in the tank, but also throughout the incoming fuel as well. Hope this is helpful.
I have used Hot Shot EDT in my Ecodiesel for almost 145,000 miles. Dose it with Extreme every 10,000 miles. MPGs are outstanding. Have my own bulk tank, only buy 50 cetane or higher. My supplier is a friend, lets me know cetane before I buy.
The Ecodiesels great mileage stock.
I the day we would dump a quart of automatic trans fluid in each tank and they were 150 gal on each side. But my problem is that it has friction modifiers in it to make the clutch packs grab better so to me I don’t want that in my fuel .
I am a first time diesel owner and I am currently researching &modifying my 2008 f250 6.4 for longevity. It only has 28k miles one it and mine is not a daily driver as I have many cars and other trucks for my farm. This truck is primarily to haul my large 7k lb boat and small 3k lb rv. My question is will these products help me get longevity from my dreaded 6.4. I take the truck out every two weeks to keep everything running normally for an hour trip to the local lake and back. Which I am thinking I need the stabilizer for the fuel. Is that the same as the bottle you referenced on the left of the desk that takes 1oz at fill up? Also I have found from the hours I’ve spent learning about that 6.4 engine that not all products such as the Lucas oil stabilizer is not good for or should be used in the 6.4 power stroke. Any thoughts will help. As I am a new diesel owner and would love to use these products in my new to me right now… thank you in advance.
Can you do a podcast on 100% renewable diesel. What Im interested in the most is cetane levels, how it compares to petroleum based fuel. Do you still need fuel additives with renewable fuel? Benefits vs draw backs. Bottom line is it a better burn for todays diesel trucks
Hey !
Bio diesel has less energy density than normal diesel so usually you’ll get less mileage but perhaps try it with their products and see if it helps
@@michaellee5399 we can tell ourselves what ever we want. 🤷♂️ @ the end of the Day. less energy dense but also less money in the land of 🍼 & 🍯
@@TruckingTendencies it isn’t really much cheaper after the cost of making it
@@michaellee5399 he’s not talking about bio diesel. He’s talking about diesel #2 renewable they sell here in California. From the research I’ve done it’s an amazing fuel compared to even Dino diesel.
I have installed a Fass fuel system and stopped buying additives!!!! I believ😂 those filters will hold the additives because they are 2 microns!!! Dd13 has been running good and saving me on the long run!!!!
I use EDT every full up on my truck for the last year (used 6 16-ounce bottles). I have never seen any improvement from any fuel additive ever. I will continue to use EDT because i like the 16-ounce bottle the best. I just hope it really removes water and adds lubrication to the fuel. They all lie about something.
$5.24 a gallon. Cry me a river. Try coming to Canada where we are paying upwards of $10.00 plus a gallon. Especially after we sell to much to USA and then buy it back at an inflated price. Our Government sucks here.
Good old Trudeau and and his far left sissies. He wants to dramatically raise the carbon tax ni Canada along with dozens of other job killing regulations.
Trade agreements and globalization of the economy are the problem.
Hot Shot’s Secret EDT works great in our family’s diesel John Deere tractors, and the family Mercedes Sprinter van. It quiets the clatter of the diesel injectors, and improves mileage, plus helps eliminate water from the fuel tank. As for Canada, I love the natural beauty of Canada and how nice Canadian citizens are, but you all need to vote for better political governance - your leaders are Socialists. Hope that changes for the better soon.
All that free stuff in Canada. Things are expensive for some reason in BC.
If your on the fence I was too, it pays for itself and then some
Some charts and or real life video would sell your product! I’m looking to up my mpg on my 08 Dodge Ram 3500.
I use all of the Hot Shot additives and want to know how to boost my MPG to save as much as possible.
Do additives affect the Fass fuel filters?
If your getting 21 mpg and above in a diesel truck your issue is no longer fuel system related. It's work related and you need a different rig. 2015 ram same numbers before and after but I work my truck.
Ran edt in my 6.7 cummins and 6.7 powerstroke, all it did was hurt fuel mileage. Run nothing now
I do hot shot with factory tanks. that is not an issue, but I need Hot Shot's help or I'm going to start using other additives.
I live in CA. CA may claim that the CA Fuel is higher quality and therefore the cost is higher. However, I do not believe the CA Quality of CA Diesel Fuel is really there. As with a lot of things in CA it is just a act.
Thank you.
I only buy my fuel from Quick Trip truck stops . Because they sell a ton of fuel so it makes me think it’s fresh and their Hot dogs are bad to the bone mustard and relish is so good !
alot of cumiins guys here. I have a 04 f350 powerstroke 280k. Just got new injectors last year, but wanna keep them tip top shape.
I use mineral 2 stroke oil it just works 👍🏻
Nothing in mine.
Marvel Mystery Oil has sulfur in it and says on the bottle do not use in 07 diesel motors or newer because it’s not good for your emissions.
Has anyone done a real world, unbiased comparison between different brands of diesel additives? Hot shots, power service……
Project farm
I believe hot shot secrets products or good products if it’s good enough for Firepunk Diesel I’ll tell you what it’s got to be good then I use Amsler products because I’m in Amsoil dealer so I just make a phone call and get shipped to the door but you know what if I was out in the road somewhere and I needed some fuel additives I would gladly use hot shot secrets anyway this is six in a row jim From kennerdell Pennsylvania I had Siri why do I go by six in a row I see I have a 91.5 dodge wonder what’s under that hood just say this it’s got over 515,000 miles on it still runs pretty good😊
I still say Amsoil has some great products to me .
It’s all a sales trip to get you to give them your money for something that does very little to your fuel and if you want to add something to your fuel just put a quart of motor oil in your fuel tank the fill your tank up .
For me, I’ve seen zero improvement in fact I’ve lost mpg.
I buy cetane from Ford by the gallon
Should I deleted my 2014 6.7 Dodge Ram
Yes do it
IMHO, delete EGR and DEF system, leave the DOC (Cat converter) intact. My Tuned Ecodiesel regens around every 700 miles and no exhaust stink. My brother did the total delete on his Powerstroke and it stinks to high heaven. Ram seems to have a good cat converter/soot filter.
No but if you do keep your original parts.
February twenty 24 diesel is 168 a litter
What do you guys think of the 76 bio 99 diesel fuel?
Also here in commiefornia it's almost $7 average gallon for diesel
I filled up in LA I think I spent 180 and I wasn’t completely empty
@@joeb.8625 I am in central coast, inland, not the beach, and I fill up from like half woth diesel and it's almost 100 to do it, and my work gas truck on empty for 26 gallons is 100-110 every week
@@zacknelson8918 crazy times all thanks to Brandon
@@joeb.8625 let's go brandon fjb!
@@zacknelson8918 EXACTLY!!!!
And never never ever buy fuel from a place that has above ground storage it sweats and condenses water in that steel tank and diesel exspands on hot summer days so you pay more for less fuel .
Is Archoil additive as good as Jay Leno says ? Ha Ha !!!!😊
Dude, WTF???
ADD CENTRAL STATION..
OMG. MPG does not equal horsepower. If you want better fuel economy, you can get it for free. Just keep your right foot from pressing down so hard on the gas pedal. I find it interesting that none of these "additive" companies have actual control vehicle lab tests proving their claims of improved fuel economy.
He was referring to fuel. No tire pressure of anything else. Geesh.
That’s what it cost in California the land of fruits and nuts !!!! Ha Ha !!
You look like Brendan Schaub 😅
Delete DEF, that's how.
GREAT SHOW THANK YOU.
I HAVE A 02 AND A 04.5 CUMMINS. LOVE THEM BOTH BUT THE BIDEN TAX IS KILLING ME. ANYTHING THAT HELPS MPG IS A BLESSING. FYI
IT'S $6.35/6.85 A GALLON UP HERE IN NEW ENGLAND.
Biden tax? Lol. Hardly it’s the oil company greed and supply shortage. Let’s put the blame where it belongs huh!
I've used all of this crap , no benefits
Ditto. Clean fuel and a light foot help mine.