I just want to know if he’s going to apologize to Merril Hoge for the way skip trashed his assessment of Manziel. Hoge tried to tell you he was missing his 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd reads. And that he played without structure and that almost never translates to the pro’s
I'm actually with Skip on this one. I think Johnny was talented enough to succeed in NFL.. average arm, but amazing instincts. He balled against NFL talent in college. You just couldn't predict his psychology and substance abuse problems. That would derail anyone
@@emmanuelzanders1746 Oh no I agree with that. I think he could have been successful though if his head was in the right place. He had enough translatable traits. He wouldn't have succeeded anywhere though dealing with that. Prob would have been even worse if he landed in a major market
@@brooksorlando4881 I do wonder how he would’ve done in Dallas. He wouldn’t play right away because they had an established starter. Cowboys are used to headlines so idk if he would’ve stole the headlines as much, and I’m sure Jerry would’ve gotten him a personal detail like he did for Dez.
Won the Heisman and became a 1st round pick by simply winging it. Barely prepared or watched film, just showed up and still accomplished more than a lot of people would/have. Wild.
Absolute wasted hype. Definitely not something to be proud of. Cost people their Jobs. Wasted hall of famer joe Thomas seasons . Blew a once in a lifetime opportunity and became a woman beater.
@@fodetoure1576 in the Pros yes but he took A&M to the next level & elevated that school in ways no one will do. Lots of ppl benefited from him, coaches got promotions, school received funding, businesses were booming in College Station. Unfortunately pro football got the worst version of him but that’s usually how it goes with the lifestyle he was leading
Still remember Skip’s take prior to the draft and him arguing with another analyst about Manziel. He argued that JM was going to be great in the league with multiple Pro-bowls, even with all the signs that he couldn’t. Never respected Skip’s football analysis after that.
@@mericanmadesoldier2345 lol where in my comment did I say Lebron played QB? Are you trying to say manziel and Tebow are better at QB than Lebron is at SF? Or being a franchise player? Or exceeding expectations? Cuz no matter how you slice it Lebron is >>>>>> anything Tebow or manziel ever did in anything. Go cry. Get off your burner account SKIIIIIIIP
He seemed to demonstrate how his greatest strength was his greatest vulnerability - just playing loose and fancy free (because every aspect of his life was just to enjoy the ride).
Here is why Skip has zero credibility in judging football players. His top QB's are Brady (cause it's easy) Manziel, Tebo, and Baker, and yet doesn't trust Rogers (future HOF) , Mahomes (Future HOF), and Josh Allen (All Pro).
Don’t feel sorry for him. Came across as a spoiled brat who got away with so much. In the NFL never really prepared and it’ll expose you if you’re not ready
“Gifted at telling adults what they need to hear.” Ummm… that’s what all conmen are good at. There’s guys in the hood that are masters at lying and telling you what you want to hear to get your money or get themselves out of trouble. What’s so special about that?
They diagnosed him bi-polar. It's a shame cause it's pretty obvious it's borderline personality disorder. It's a very, very complicated thing. Living in Johnny's head has to be a nightmare. Unfortunately we will never know what's really wrong...
"Johnny was very good as always" What exactly does that mean Skip? He made a ton of really immature , irresponsible, selfish, unprofessional, self-destructive, addictive decisions. Doesn't make him a bad person, BUT doesn't make him "good" either. Do you think his teammates RESPECTED him? How did he treat his family? Too much Too soon! He couldn't handle the situation he was put in. It's not JUST on him. He loved the fame and fortune, but mental health was not his ally. Some of me feels sad for him, BUT some of me feels disgusted, because NOT everyone gets a chance to play pro sports.
Wait. He is describing Johnny Manziel, correct? The way he is talking, I thought he was talking about Michael Vick. I would put Vick's redshirt freshman season up against Manziel's first year. Second. Imagine if Vick watched film in the early part of his career. Let's also think about Lamar Jackson. Manziel does compare to either of them.
Manziel wasn't speaking to the media his freshman year, and that was a huge mistake. Sumlin had that policy in place to "protect" his young players(for many reasons, from saying something dumb, to causing them to get a big head), and the irony is that policy enabled Manziel. The media wasn't able to see Manziel in those hung over states before and after games, had Manziel been giving interviews before and after games him being in that condition would've been very noticeable and it would've been a big topic of conversation.... it would've been dealt with quickly, Sumlin and A&M wouldn't have had a choice, they would've been forced to address it behind the scenes. But nobody outside the program was seeing it really and with them winning games it was overlooked, the public pressure from Manziel being hung over during games could've corrected this problem early on. I don't know what coach Sumlin's and his staff's motives were but they did that kid no favors. He is the coach our parents warned us about and the villain coach from every 1990's sports movie.
Go back and watch the bowl game where they destroyed Oklahoma. Hidden in the details is that Manziel played really poorly. The OU defense was so awful that day and average QB play that day would’ve put up 4 more TDs on OU. That game was the first time where I thought this guy doesn’t really have it and was incredibly overrated.
The difference between Johnnie Manziel and Eddie Haskell is that Johnnie was very competent at football and other sports (before the NFL) while Eddie, although a big talker, was a failure at everything he tried.
I didn't like manziel cuz of all the hype and his hilites. Then I saw my LSU tigers wear him out and I saw that arrogance turn to fear, and I knew that every defense in the NFL could do the basic things LSU was doing, like maintaining contain. I knew it wasn't gonna work for him and the hype and hate machine stayed hot for another few years, and I just kinda pitied him
They hating on you skip? You made stephen A and shannonwho they are though. You need to hire some real you tube personalities and appeal to everyday people. Stephen A and Shannon are both outta touch. You need to hire a real hood sports guru who wont kiss your butt or be disrespectful.
Listen to the full episode on Apple Podcasts here: 👉 link.chtbl.com/Ep75
Jerry Jones should’ve gotten Manziel. Maybe he would’ve still been here
“I was pretty inside Johnny Manzel those days” 😂😂😂 I’m crying 😭
It would've been funnier if he said "pause"
Mature 👏
@@philipschifano5876 just a joke man, relax…
Ayoo
yes you were baby 🤣
“He’s a hard looking 30” 😂😂😂 facts Skip
I just want to know if he’s going to apologize to Merril Hoge for the way skip trashed his assessment of Manziel. Hoge tried to tell you he was missing his 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd reads. And that he played without structure and that almost never translates to the pro’s
there’s another video on it
Translation to this 14 minute video: "blah blah blah Johnny had a drug problem was I wasn't technically wrong about him being a star."
Skip podcast is very monotone. Skip has got to use the podcast to show us a little personality but don’t expect him to.
We're can I watch this show live ?
Skip is still around? Ugh
Skip I think he meant a do over in your life…. Not Johnny manziels lol
Merill Hodge predicated all of this. Directly is Skips face. Johnny WAS NEVER an on a track to becoming a real winner.
I'm actually with Skip on this one. I think Johnny was talented enough to succeed in NFL.. average arm, but amazing instincts. He balled against NFL talent in college. You just couldn't predict his psychology and substance abuse problems. That would derail anyone
He would’ve never been bigger than LeBron… even baker beating the Steelers in the playoffs wasn’t bigger than LeBron
@@emmanuelzanders1746 Oh no I agree with that. I think he could have been successful though if his head was in the right place. He had enough translatable traits. He wouldn't have succeeded anywhere though dealing with that. Prob would have been even worse if he landed in a major market
@@brooksorlando4881 I do wonder how he would’ve done in Dallas. He wouldn’t play right away because they had an established starter. Cowboys are used to headlines so idk if he would’ve stole the headlines as much, and I’m sure Jerry would’ve gotten him a personal detail like he did for Dez.
Gardner minshew at best
@@alexfromproduce1521 Size and arm strength wise, I agree. Johnny was more elusive, better throwing off-platform, maneuvering in a crowded pocket
Won the Heisman and became a 1st round pick by simply winging it. Barely prepared or watched film, just showed up and still accomplished more than a lot of people would/have. Wild.
Imagine he put in the work
Absolute wasted hype. Definitely not something to be proud of. Cost people their Jobs. Wasted hall of famer joe Thomas seasons . Blew a once in a lifetime opportunity and became a woman beater.
He had the talent. He didn’t have the maturity or the want or desire.
@@Utahtruckguy he would’ve been a perennial All-Pro
@@fodetoure1576 in the Pros yes but he took A&M to the next level & elevated that school in ways no one will do. Lots of ppl benefited from him, coaches got promotions, school received funding, businesses were booming in College Station. Unfortunately pro football got the worst version of him but that’s usually how it goes with the lifestyle he was leading
Nobody thrives on negativity like Bayless.
Skip saying that Manziel would be bigger in Cleveland than Lebron was one of his worst takes ever.
Lol, Cleveland is a football town. A QB who wins a SB would win that town.
@@allobove7798You have better odds winning the powerball than Browns winning a Superbowl. Irrelevant.
Because he loathes LeBron
Still remember Skip’s take prior to the draft and him arguing with another analyst about Manziel. He argued that JM was going to be great in the league with multiple Pro-bowls, even with all the signs that he couldn’t. Never respected Skip’s football analysis after that.
Mate, I still remember him telling everyone that would listen that Eric Mangini would win a Super Bowl with the Jets.
I remember him arguing with Merril Hodge. Hodge was 100% accurate about his draft predictions for that year.
1:25 “i was pretty inside johnny manziel during those days”
LOL
Pause
Imagine being the guy that thinks Tebow and manziel were greater at what they did then what Lebron does 😂
Quarterback is much harder than small forward by a lot kid
@@mericanmadesoldier2345that's true. Why did they let Tebow or Manziel do it?...
@@mericanmadesoldier2345 lol where in my comment did I say Lebron played QB? Are you trying to say manziel and Tebow are better at QB than Lebron is at SF? Or being a franchise player? Or exceeding expectations? Cuz no matter how you slice it Lebron is >>>>>> anything Tebow or manziel ever did in anything. Go cry. Get off your burner account SKIIIIIIIP
hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.
He didn’t study…. He really just played as a hobby😢 what a waste
Johnny Manziel liked baseball.
& regardless of that, he was at the top of the sport at one time. There’s no telling what he could’ve become if he actually cared.
Imagine he put in the work
@@PastorTrue93 exactly
Patrick mahomes before Patrick mahomes
johnny football lol. i swear his career felt like 5 minutes
Skip misses his days when he was young😢😅
I'm sure he cries about it in his mansion every night . . .
@@BlueBarrier782 are we allowed to go
Never laugh at old people… you will be the old one day too
@@emmanuelzanders1746 💁🏿
He seemed to demonstrate how his greatest strength was his greatest vulnerability - just playing loose and fancy free (because every aspect of his life was just to enjoy the ride).
Skip STILL hasn't said that he was wrong about Johnny. Didnt say he was WRONG about undermining NFL analyst thoughts of Johnny.
That’s why I dislike Skip because he never admits when he’s wrong
Here is why Skip has zero credibility in judging football players. His top QB's are Brady (cause it's easy) Manziel, Tebo, and Baker, and yet doesn't trust Rogers (future HOF) , Mahomes (Future HOF), and Josh Allen (All Pro).
Manziel is definitely a very old 30 years old. He’s more like 40 with all that happens to him.
Don’t feel sorry for him. Came across as a spoiled brat who got away with so much. In the NFL never really prepared and it’ll expose you if you’re not ready
A fun college QB to watch, wild and frenetic. Those two qualities don't translate well in the professional ranks.
Johnny is a genius. He makes very good decisions.
1:24 ⏸
“Gifted at telling adults what they need to hear.” Ummm… that’s what all conmen are good at. There’s guys in the hood that are masters at lying and telling you what you want to hear to get your money or get themselves out of trouble. What’s so special about that?
They diagnosed him bi-polar. It's a shame cause it's pretty obvious it's borderline personality disorder. It's a very, very complicated thing. Living in Johnny's head has to be a nightmare. Unfortunately we will never know what's really wrong...
Johnny the conman Manziel…he sure tricked a lot of people…sad sad sad.
Skip needs some music of some kind of graphics…his podcast boring
Another thing skip was wrong about haha
“Gateway” drug
"Johnny was very good as always" What exactly does that mean Skip? He made a ton of really immature , irresponsible, selfish, unprofessional, self-destructive, addictive decisions. Doesn't make him a bad person, BUT doesn't make him "good" either. Do you think his teammates RESPECTED him? How did he treat his family? Too much Too soon! He couldn't handle the situation he was put in. It's not JUST on him. He loved the fame and fortune, but mental health was not his ally. Some of me feels sad for him, BUT some of me feels disgusted, because NOT everyone gets a chance to play pro sports.
Wait. He is describing Johnny Manziel, correct? The way he is talking, I thought he was talking about Michael Vick. I would put Vick's redshirt freshman season up against Manziel's first year.
Second. Imagine if Vick watched film in the early part of his career.
Let's also think about Lamar Jackson.
Manziel does compare to either of them.
Manziel wasn't speaking to the media his freshman year, and that was a huge mistake. Sumlin had that policy in place to "protect" his young players(for many reasons, from saying something dumb, to causing them to get a big head), and the irony is that policy enabled Manziel. The media wasn't able to see Manziel in those hung over states before and after games, had Manziel been giving interviews before and after games him being in that condition would've been very noticeable and it would've been a big topic of conversation.... it would've been dealt with quickly, Sumlin and A&M wouldn't have had a choice, they would've been forced to address it behind the scenes. But nobody outside the program was seeing it really and with them winning games it was overlooked, the public pressure from Manziel being hung over during games could've corrected this problem early on.
I don't know what coach Sumlin's and his staff's motives were but they did that kid no favors. He is the coach our parents warned us about and the villain coach from every 1990's sports movie.
Go back and watch the bowl game where they destroyed Oklahoma. Hidden in the details is that Manziel played really poorly. The OU defense was so awful that day and average QB play that day would’ve put up 4 more TDs on OU. That game was the first time where I thought this guy doesn’t really have it and was incredibly overrated.
The difference between Johnnie Manziel and Eddie Haskell is that Johnnie was very competent at football and other sports (before the NFL) while Eddie, although a big talker, was a failure at everything he tried.
Poor guy has everything he wanted
I think you should address the Nichols hire..
Why lol
I didn't like manziel cuz of all the hype and his hilites. Then I saw my LSU tigers wear him out and I saw that arrogance turn to fear, and I knew that every defense in the NFL could do the basic things LSU was doing, like maintaining contain. I knew it wasn't gonna work for him and the hype and hate machine stayed hot for another few years, and I just kinda pitied him
How far Manziel got by doing no work is crazy. Impressive if you think about it
Do you think his parents are impressed? How about his pro football teammates and coaches?
@@SweetLou15 yes im sure they were. I’m not defending him but he did make millions of dollars doing something he shouldn’t have done.
They hating on you skip?
You made stephen A and shannonwho they are though.
You need to hire some real you tube personalities and appeal to everyday people.
Stephen A and Shannon are both outta touch.
You need to hire a real hood sports guru who wont kiss your butt or be disrespectful.
He gave Shannon an opportunity he didn't make Shannon's personality is God given which will never be replaced
If you watch this video, then watch Skip Bayless 2014 take
This show format is unwatchable.
It's so funny to watch people cry over football like Skip