Yes, I use the Zoom MS-70CDR pedal for my basic effects, but also bought a Strymon NightSky for experimentation and comparison and for really long reverb. I am very pleased with the sound design chaining of the Zoom, and for shorter reverbs, all delays, and some other processors like EQ; the Zoom sounds good to me. But I still remember how bad effects were for poor musicians back in the 1980s, just terrible sounding, and in the 1990s not any better. So in 2024 enjoying the power of the Zoom and what I get for $180 with the power supply. (note: I use my effects in the aux loop of my mixer, so the effects are mixed with dry untouched analog signal).
It amazes me how in 2024 many people still cling to the belief that cheap digital effects are garbage simply because they are cheap lol. Time and modulation-based digital effects are relatively simple to create via digital processing/algorithms and the ability to do so has been around since the 1970s. The cost of digital processors of course has plummeted since the 1970s, and the technology has simultaneously evolved to be unrecognizable from 50 years ago. Zoom in particular have had very good time and modulation effects for decades. Someone could do a true blind test with the cheap zoom and a blue sky on several tracks and I suspect that there would not be a significant difference between people’s preference among the tracks. *People listen with their eyes and wallets*
Absolutely! Fantastic pedal. I've got 4 of them! Being able to string 5 effects together is great, and then you can chain the pedals together (through the aux in) to each other with one stereo output at the end. Stereo delay, a good enough reverb with loads of adjustable parameters. Stick a synth through one of the grungy overdrives and you're laughing!
@@djkanyon I almost bought one back in 2004, big mistake, but I eventually grabbed one a few years ago since I wanted everything recorded at least 24-bit, 48kHz.
Got one already, love it. Perfect and compact pairing for the Awesome but effectless Microfreak. Also running a drum machine through it can take you into some wild places.
The intro disclaimer made me laugh, when you said only god knows I laughed, the effects sound good with what you did. I will use the word right more often after watching this, right.
7:55 I love this sound. I like the disclaimer - shoos away the -gluesniffers- corksniffers who think only virtuoso musicians should be allowed to post music videos!
yup, dawless stuff basically afforded everyone to make fast music... in fact most of arpegios made with sequencers cannot be played live unless one spent entire life in music school (i know!)
To be fair, in-built effects in synthesizers have never been great, I don’t think … ? Which is why the reverb in the Summit/Peak is so notable. But, as someone who doesn’t like the bright ‘Strymon sheen’ (thank goodness!), this Zoom is one of many great alternatives to those kidney-priced boxes. Some great sounds there! Sub’d. 🙂🙏🏼
Thnx bro! It's true, builtin FX in synth was never THAT good... and i don't know why... since Rloand\Korg|Yamaha doesn't even use that to make their own FX.... they kinda let it go... and Zoom is a great alternative and turned out many ppl in the comments are using it already!
Thnx bro! It's true, builtin FX in synth was never THAT good... and i don't know why... since Rloand\Korg|Yamaha doesn't even use that to make their own FX.... they kinda let it go... and Zoom is a great alternative and turned out many ppl in the comments are using it already!
Yup! Classic Doom\Metallica arp!! If you had a chance, i bet you can find it on every second hand market for 50 euros or even 40, these are not rarity and considered to be crap... for guitarist so guitar forum is a good place to start, i bet ppl sell it right and left
@@djkanyona nts-1 gets you 3 fx AND a mono synth for not a lot more. Could be arguable on the value front. Maybe not an argument, but at least competition, where the customer wins!
Oh yeah I got one of these G1X FOURs earlier this week for like $60 used. It’s a godsend. Replaced an entire FX chain on my Microfreak. The wah functionality is so useful.
At first I got the Zoom CDR and it really fit 90% of my need, but when I start finding a right analog distortion and side chain comp I learn a expensive lesion. Buy a right FX not a few cheap and feature packed FX that hope you can program it to match the one you need. End up buying more pedal is not good, buy the right one.
@@lyh1 yup! i wanted to buy Behringer tube preamp but first it was nowhere to be found and then my pockets was empty... valve stuff was working just fine for years - Electribe EMX and OG King Korg is a proof to that!
13:16 I did something similar way back with my Clef monosynth and my Great British Spring mark 2 reverb. You should have tried a long slow pitch bend - the crazy result turned my stomach! 🤮🤣
I have the Zoom G3n (£125) and the Line 6 HX Stomp (£550). There are patches in the little G3n that I really like, and although I can hear a slight improvement in sound with the Line 6, it’s not massive. DSP is DSP, you know?
Ламповый видик про старый добрый Зум) Эти старые процессоры вообще сундучки Пандоры - потенциала в них немеренно. Причем данная модель только со встроенной педалью экспрессии прослужила мне верой и правдой и на всех репетициях и концертах с группой. 3 прессета и квакушка прям с головой хватало для роцка обыкновенного. Конечно да, хочется эксперементировать и пробовать разное, но тут понимаешь что все дело в финансовых возможностях, пределах компактности и задачах. Ну и психологический фактор) примочек этих конечно немерянно, а тут в коробочке всё есть. Но скажу так что в живом выступлении проще и зачастую гибче сигналы у специализированных примочек. И немаловажен запас громкости. Вообщем для перегруза гитарного лучше конечно аналог, но это уже нюансы. А сейчас новые поколения процессоров типа Line 6 Helix, Hotone и пр. - это вообще монстры.
It seems as though the output is stereo using a trs cable. The manual says the input accepts a mono cable and the output accepts a stereo cable. I believe the order in which you put your effects matters though, if you put a stereo effect before a mono effect your output will become mono.
dude.. i remember that one!.. also my brother still have and use Zoom g9.2tt! i didn't have a chance to use that monster coz little bro using it every day but i guess it would be one of a kind combo!
@@djkanyon I actually did pick one up for $70. I love my zoom h6 handy recorder so I like this brand and I actually like how big and busy it looks, like if I didn't know what that was and I saw it on someones table I'd think them a mad man. Can't wait to run euro rack through it. thanks for advice
'every synth/groove box used to have effects' is utter BS. No one forced anyone to buy guitar pedals either. Nice video though the zoom sounds okay. What's the latency through your $100 DSP pedal? How does it feel to play through the unit with an instrument? Does it keep the subs well for bass guitar? We'll never know because it sounds ok with a volca FM playing a sequence through it with no context. And that's good enough apparently
Bro... can't play guitar for sh... so i don't know! all i know is one chord... my fingers are not made for guitar like at all! Also it was not Volca FM it was Volca keys but anyway
Great video - Your excitement is infectious! I have a Zoom Multistomp MSCDR pedal, and whilst the quality of the sound isn't amazing, it's incredibly versatile and can turn basic waveforms into massive pads too. If you're a hobbyist these units are really good bang for the buck. 🪐✨
@@jamisondonald384 bro... i though i'm going to be all alone here with it... but it seems that ppl plve this thing! good thing to know that you're not alone with your opinion!
@@djkanyon yeah, you're not at all alone in this. I use it with my old school mpc to make the "instruments" sound infinitely better than the raw pitch-shifting or what few fx are built in
Yes, I use the Zoom MS-70CDR pedal for my basic effects, but also bought a Strymon NightSky for experimentation and comparison and for really long reverb. I am very pleased with the sound design chaining of the Zoom, and for shorter reverbs, all delays, and some other processors like EQ; the Zoom sounds good to me. But I still remember how bad effects were for poor musicians back in the 1980s, just terrible sounding, and in the 1990s not any better. So in 2024 enjoying the power of the Zoom and what I get for $180 with the power supply. (note: I use my effects in the aux loop of my mixer, so the effects are mixed with dry untouched analog signal).
Strymon and Zoom together.... hmmm what a combo!
And yes this is true, FX were the weakest link for a loooong time... i remember that...
It amazes me how in 2024 many people still cling to the belief that cheap digital effects are garbage simply because they are cheap lol.
Time and modulation-based digital effects are relatively simple to create via digital processing/algorithms and the ability to do so has been around since the 1970s.
The cost of digital processors of course has plummeted since the 1970s, and the technology has simultaneously evolved to be unrecognizable from 50 years ago.
Zoom in particular have had very good time and modulation effects for decades.
Someone could do a true blind test with the cheap zoom and a blue sky on several tracks and I suspect that there would not be a significant difference between people’s preference among the tracks.
*People listen with their eyes and wallets*
So true! Digital delays and other FX was in guitar world since almost day one.
Totally, but Zoom could have really put some tap tempo possibility for the delay machine ;(
Because analogue to digital conversion. Because DSP buffer latency. Because 'perfect sound forever' was just marketing
Absolutely! Fantastic pedal. I've got 4 of them! Being able to string 5 effects together is great, and then you can chain the pedals together (through the aux in) to each other with one stereo output at the end. Stereo delay, a good enough reverb with loads of adjustable parameters. Stick a synth through one of the grungy overdrives and you're laughing!
haha bro thanks! you have... FOUR G1 FOURS! i wish i hade it too but i'm looking at Donner Arena now!
Thanks for the tip on this, I enjoy the effects on my Zoom R16 recorder and these would add even more for a good, low price. Great demo.
Zoom R16 is a legend, especially when compared to modern Zom products! Good choise!
@@djkanyon I almost bought one back in 2004, big mistake, but I eventually grabbed one a few years ago since I wanted everything recorded at least 24-bit, 48kHz.
@@MJanovicable yes! 24\48 is so important! glad people still value good quality audio
@@djkanyon Your music is excellent, sir! I like your arpeggiator lines a lot.
making arpeggios by hand is my goto since music school! thanks! trying my best
Got one already, love it. Perfect and compact pairing for the Awesome but effectless Microfreak. Also running a drum machine through it can take you into some wild places.
indeed bro! i forgot about drum machine FX!
The intro disclaimer made me laugh, when you said only god knows I laughed, the effects sound good with what you did. I will use the word right more often after watching this, right.
right.... haha this disclaimer was lost and i recently found it so i decided yo put it back again... sad but true!!!
Right, mate. 😉👍🏼
7:55 I love this sound.
I like the disclaimer - shoos away the -gluesniffers- corksniffers who think only virtuoso musicians should be allowed to post music videos!
yup, dawless stuff basically afforded everyone to make fast music... in fact most of arpegios made with sequencers cannot be played live unless one spent entire life in music school (i know!)
Zoom is not “garbage” for guitar players. Apart from that I agree with everything 😅
Zoom g9.2tt is one of the best guitar processors like EVER. Doesn't get much love at all.
I recorded several albums using mainly Zoom G2 and B2 effects units. Still use a Multistomp!
@@adde65 haha bro g2 was my brother's first guitar processors! he wrote a lot of music too with it! it sounds good - and to me much better than G1four
Can’t help it. They so pretty.
You know the processor is alright when you can even play Doom on it.
I was waiting for this one, finally!
I already love the intro :D
sad but true!!
Great work, love the way you did this! Easy subscribe 👍🏻
thanks man! sometimes i try to make something out of minimum of gear i have!
To be fair, in-built effects in synthesizers have never been great, I don’t think … ? Which is why the reverb in the Summit/Peak is so notable. But, as someone who doesn’t like the bright ‘Strymon sheen’ (thank goodness!), this Zoom is one of many great alternatives to those kidney-priced boxes. Some great sounds there! Sub’d. 🙂🙏🏼
Thnx bro! It's true, builtin FX in synth was never THAT good... and i don't know why... since Rloand\Korg|Yamaha doesn't even use that to make their own FX.... they kinda let it go... and Zoom is a great alternative and turned out many ppl in the comments are using it already!
Thnx bro! It's true, builtin FX in synth was never THAT good... and i don't know why... since Rloand\Korg|Yamaha doesn't even use that to make their own FX.... they kinda let it go... and Zoom is a great alternative and turned out many ppl in the comments are using it already!
Interesting! Gotta check this thing out! Sounds really good! And nice Doom line! 😂🤘
Yup! Classic Doom\Metallica arp!! If you had a chance, i bet you can find it on every second hand market for 50 euros or even 40, these are not rarity and considered to be crap... for guitarist so guitar forum is a good place to start, i bet ppl sell it right and left
Great show brother loving the this man!
thanks bro, you helped me immensely!
Sick pedal. Excellent value. Thanks for recommend
Good words... maybe it's not the vest gear ever but probably the best value!
@@djkanyon very accessible price and having multiple effects in one is great for a more minimal gear set up
@@djkanyona nts-1 gets you 3 fx AND a mono synth for not a lot more. Could be arguable on the value front. Maybe not an argument, but at least competition, where the customer wins!
@@CatFish107 it's true! NTS is really good, i wish i had it just to compare!
lmao love the Terminator theme
haha bro T1 is my fav movie of all times!
Oh yeah I got one of these G1X FOURs earlier this week for like $60 used. It’s a godsend. Replaced an entire FX chain on my Microfreak. The wah functionality is so useful.
I knew someone already using it! You did the riht thing! Also i forgot the wah function...
....time to go eBay hunting....
Nice video bro !! !! Many thanks for sharing !! 👍👍✨✨
no problemo! you're welcome
no problemo! you're welcome
At first I got the Zoom CDR and it really fit 90% of my need, but when I start finding a right analog distortion and side chain comp I learn a expensive lesion. Buy a right FX not a few cheap and feature packed FX that hope you can program it to match the one you need.
End up buying more pedal is not good, buy the right one.
Analog distortion... u mean valve amp for guitar or something else?
@@djkanyon yes, valve amp for rock organ sound, a ds1 on 303 a zoom have the simulation, but I end up get a real one because I heard the different.
@@lyh1 yup! i wanted to buy Behringer tube preamp but first it was nowhere to be found and then my pockets was empty... valve stuff was working just fine for years - Electribe EMX and OG King Korg is a proof to that!
Nothing wrong with Zoom but I personally prefer Eventide. It’s whatever works for you.
I've never seen anything Eventide in my area! I heard a lot about it but never touched one!
I've never seen anything Eventide in my area! I heard a lot about it but never touched one!
@@djkanyon - Check out Sweetwater if your in the States or Thomann in the UK.
Yep new effects pedal
Вот это акцентище, мужик.
13:16 I did something similar way back with my Clef monosynth and my Great British Spring mark 2 reverb. You should have tried a long slow pitch bend - the crazy result turned my stomach! 🤮🤣
Clef monosynth! Good to see someone remember it!
I have the Zoom G3n (£125) and the Line 6 HX Stomp (£550). There are patches in the little G3n that I really like, and although I can hear a slight improvement in sound with the Line 6, it’s not massive. DSP is DSP, you know?
G3n is pretty good! Tried it many times but never had a chance to buy one
The quality of DSP FX is depended on the talent of the people writing the code.
@@BullyMaguire4ever true
Dope memes
That's pretty hot. Been loving the nts3 though. It's a touch more cost than a volca, but the X/Y touchpad is a lot of fun to use.
wish i had NTS too!
Muddy dawless jammer bros
the G1X four is one of the best effect pedals ever imo. been the backbone of my weird rig for a while, its done gigs all by itself!
incredible value! i don't think there can be another one like this in this price range
Ламповый видик про старый добрый Зум) Эти старые процессоры вообще сундучки Пандоры - потенциала в них немеренно. Причем данная модель только со встроенной педалью экспрессии прослужила мне верой и правдой и на всех репетициях и концертах с группой. 3 прессета и квакушка прям с головой хватало для роцка обыкновенного. Конечно да, хочется эксперементировать и пробовать разное, но тут понимаешь что все дело в финансовых возможностях, пределах компактности и задачах. Ну и психологический фактор) примочек этих конечно немерянно, а тут в коробочке всё есть. Но скажу так что в живом выступлении проще и зачастую гибче сигналы у специализированных примочек. И немаловажен запас громкости. Вообщем для перегруза гитарного лучше конечно аналог, но это уже нюансы. А сейчас новые поколения процессоров типа Line 6 Helix, Hotone и пр. - это вообще монстры.
да это на самом же деле не просто педалька) это же легенда бюджетного гитарного музицирования) да, и как обычно с тремя удобными пресетами))))
Mono sucks man, I got a Boss VF-1 half rack Fx processor cheap which can do the same and be fully controlled from the unit.
bro! Boss make best FX ever!
It seems as though the output is stereo using a trs cable. The manual says the input accepts a mono cable and the output accepts a stereo cable. I believe the order in which you put your effects matters though, if you put a stereo effect before a mono effect your output will become mono.
@@Johnny__BThe source will always be mono, as the input only accepts mono. So mono to stereo seems possible, not something I’m interested in.
You don't really need a house anymore either
I've got a perfect cardboard box for you here that is so much cheaper
😉
bro... don't remind me...
Never needed a Strymon pedal to begin with. Overpriced crap.
overpriced it is!
I have an older g1on … which i picked up for 30 euros for dawless jamsss
Shame on me for using pathetic digital fx ewww hahahahaha
dude.. i remember that one!.. also my brother still have and use Zoom g9.2tt! i didn't have a chance to use that monster coz little bro using it every day but i guess it would be one of a kind combo!
Sounded like the terminator theme song there for half a bar lmao I love this thing $50 bucks?! No way
the thing is... that you can find same stuff for 200-300$ with different brand name
@@djkanyon I actually did pick one up for $70. I love my zoom h6 handy recorder so I like this brand and I actually like how big and busy it looks, like if I didn't know what that was and I saw it on someones table I'd think them a mad man. Can't wait to run euro rack through it. thanks for advice
@@peterkoinzell7983 my little bro still uses Zoom g9 guitar processor! Zoom can be very cool when it wants to!
'every synth/groove box used to have effects' is utter BS. No one forced anyone to buy guitar pedals either. Nice video though the zoom sounds okay. What's the latency through your $100 DSP pedal? How does it feel to play through the unit with an instrument? Does it keep the subs well for bass guitar?
We'll never know because it sounds ok with a volca FM playing a sequence through it with no context. And that's good enough apparently
Bro... can't play guitar for sh... so i don't know! all i know is one chord... my fingers are not made for guitar like at all! Also it was not Volca FM it was Volca keys but anyway
@@djkanyon I did enjoy the video! You had the trollface on the thumbnail and I took the bait lol. All the best
@@PorchBass no problem bro, you seem to know what u're talking about and it's cool
Great video - Your excitement is infectious! I have a Zoom Multistomp MSCDR pedal, and whilst the quality of the sound isn't amazing, it's incredibly versatile and can turn basic waveforms into massive pads too. If you're a hobbyist these units are really good bang for the buck. 🪐✨
Very good pedal! Planned to buy it myself at one point and it still on my radar!
I love mine, and it's ridiculously easy to "hack" fx from the gtr version onto there
@@jamisondonald384 bro... i though i'm going to be all alone here with it... but it seems that ppl plve this thing! good thing to know that you're not alone with your opinion!
@@djkanyon yeah, you're not at all alone in this. I use it with my old school mpc to make the "instruments" sound infinitely better than the raw pitch-shifting or what few fx are built in
@@jamisondonald384 haha light years ahead of me!
For better or worse, Strymon is "too beautiful."
this is true, esthetically it's perfect and compliments the sound it provides!