What makes Kent even more a disturbing villain is that he never gave a damn about Hogarth potentially dying brutally and he's just a kid. All he cared about was his ego and impressing the general...he didn't even give a shit about nearly causing mass genocide by launching that nuclear missile, he only cared about saving himself. That's so dark man.
It wasn't his ego tho. This was during the Cold War, Kent just represents the paranoia of that time. Literally anything could be the spark of WWIII, and everyone would be destroyed if that happend.
@@LennoxParsec It could still be both. In fact, it likely is, as the paranoia would only count for his initial suspicion and actions, but wouldn't account for his adamant refusal to admit he was wrong.
I cant help but wounder what happen to Kent after the movie finished. Considering how much of this disaster was his fault, plus calling in a nuclear strike against a still populated American town, he was probably given a very large prison sentence, if not life.
+ScottieGirl20 maybe not. What if he became higher up in the government, with lie after lie about what happened, leading him to become the führer dictator of America and Canada leading to him taking over parts of Russia, all of Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, the UK, and Svalbard.
I'm sure he already went crazy from the Cold War paranoia and was probably admitted into an insane asylum. Most certainly, he was fired from whatever agency he worked for.
I'm pretty sure Kent told that flat-out lie to the General in a not-so-loud voice so the other soldiers couldn't hear him. He's nothing but a manipulative idiotic coward.
No he was doing what was best for humanity. The giant is an insanely powerful and advanced war machine and would have destroyed every city, home and person on the planet if it didnt have its head banged up on its way down. Kent knows that one life isn't worth risking millions or billions more, he needed to nuke it right now.
Slade Rheaume Except we know for a fact that both him (and you) are completely wrong. He wasn't helping anything, and your notion that just because something is powerful it should be killed just shows how arrogant humans are in these situations. How about instead of being mad that it can't be overpowered, we just don't attack it? He wasn't doing shit for earth, and if you did the same thing, neither would you. You don't give a shit about "earth", it would all be about pride. He got his pride hurt, so he was a manipulative pathetic pussy of a coward. He should be hated.
Slade Rheaume Secondly, he wasn't doing anything here honorably. It wasn't like it was his PLAN to sacrifice himself and the town for earth's safety. He just straight up forgot that the giant was close by. It wasn't for the good of anyone but his reputation and ego. I know, because he tried to run like a bitch as soon as he heard the nuke was coming down on the town.
Not just that, but when Dean actually gets to talk to General Rogard directly and communicates how the giant isn’t a threat and only retaliates when attacked, he genuinely listens to the guy instead of just dismissing him, consistently keeping a cool head and evaluating the situation to figure out how to resolve it with minimal casualties
That cry of pain that the Giant makes at 0:18 is really jarring. It doesn't seem to cause any exterior damage, but you can tell how much that tank shell hurt him. It probably busted him up internally - I can imagine whatever intricate systems he has in there shaking apart from the impact. I think he seems so stunned and groggy afterward because he's never felt pain like that. He doesn't react like an artificial weapon at all. Maybe he's some sort of alien mixture of metal and organism. I don't think he's simply a robot, but an actual member of the alien race. It's cool how this movie keeps me reacting and speculating 14 years after I first watched it. It really shows it's quality.
Well to be fair.. at that point it was pretty much in a berserk rage, and probably ignored pain if he felt any. On top, the giant here had his combat programming probably damaged (the bump in his head that goes away when he decides to pull out all guns), and maybe as such he really didn't expected a sensation as intense as an explosion, and as such felt pain from it.
JReed1985 That's just it Kent never stops to think about the consequences of the things he says. In the movie Kent grabs the phone and calls in a nuclear strike on the Giant and unthinkingly on himself.
Ah, the moment he went from antagonistic Government Agent doing his job, to outright villainous- in the eyes of the viewers (historians and political thinkers fill in the rest).
The thing established from the very beginning is Kent is a paranoid xenophobe. He is so run by fear that he will do anything to make himself feel safe. He never cared about Hogarth.
Yeah like whenever I read these greatest animated movie villains of all time lists I never see mansley on there and I’m like this agent literally doesn’t give a shit if children die HOW DOES HE NOT END UP ON MORE EVIL VILLAINS LISTS
@@daffyduck9323 Kent Mansley bribes the nominators to keep him out of the greatest animated movie villains of all time. He's a sly bastard, very cunning
Well I’m just like think about it this isn’t like oh I’m gonna take over the city or oh I’m gonna blow some people up. children dying and this guys like eh f*** the kid like it’s amazing
0:16 I like the town's initial reaction completely subverts the 50s stereotype of panic and pandemonium that's the typical reaction put in propaganda films. But here this is regular people witnessing an out of this world robot go out of it's way for an heroic rescue and they. "Wow! This is such a cool robot!"
You’re not the only one. I was really mad as soon as Kent said to the General that the Giant kills a kid. And when he order to launch the missile was absolutely the stupidest thing anyone ever did.
Everlena Oliver I agree... saw this for the first time when I was 8. I cried. I'm 27, and it's really hard to make me cry now because I got in trouble if I did cry as I was growing up. Being conditioned to not cry... I still cried two days ago, as a 27 year old man, seeing this again...
For those wondering, Kent is a xenophobic. He made no secret of his contempt for Sputnik 1 and all other foreign countries. He clearly said that the only reason he wanted to destroy the giant was simply because it’s not from them. Heck, the moment he saw the bitten off part of his car he was determined to kill the giant, regardless of how many lives (including Hogarth) he could kill and all the illegality of his actions.
@@hagonistheman7880 so stupid people like you still exist? Go in your beloved "good" US and never think about the millions of civilians killed and more than 30 invasions of sovereign countries. The destruction of culture and civilization in these countries. The LITERAL sponsorship of terrorism (the way ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like appeared). You are an imbecile victim of American propaganda.
+Jackson “Untergrond” Begley Yeah, there is no way he wasn't executed for high treason. He grabbed the general's phone and ordered a nuclear strike down on American civilians. Treason is one of the few crimes punishable by death and if there was ever an act of treason worthy of being put to death for, this is it.
I love how there are like a dozen military personnel with in ear shot of the junk yard guy and the general was only like 10 ft away but Kent still some how still got away with that bull shit.
Kent: he says the robot killed the kid Soldier 1 who was standing right behind him: What no he didn't Kent: Its my word against yours Soldier 2: What i was there as well Kent: WELL YOU ALL MISHEARD OR SOMETHING General: someone please remove this guy
I love the General, who just watched the Giant shrug off a tank shell as well as heavy machine gun fire, pulls out his pistol and unload the whole damn clip into it, instead of trying to escape
That blast on Iron Giant's back, that really must've hurt because he wasn't ready for that hit even though it didn't technically damage him. But the rest of the scene is epic.
Kent has always struck me as someone who, if he had internet and access to web forums, he’d try to win an argument by pulling the government agent card (think, “I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals,” copypasta). He’s just so desperate to e taken seriously and to be seen as the most badass person in the room.
Kent's an embodiment of Cold War paranoia. If you see something strange that you don't understand, then it's probably a threat, and you should destroy it.
Joke's on 10 yr old you, at absolute worst he might be using the lord's name in vain. But he's not cursing whatsoever. Older movies could get away with actual minor cursing. I think they were allowed to be in as long as they were used in proper context and only used a certain number of times.
Rogard did say "Damn it" a couple of times... once in the beginning when Kent called him and later when the giant turned into a war machine after thinking Hogarth died.
Kent Mansley "He says the monster's killed the kid. Sir, we must stop it at all costs." Me "Don't listen to him, General. He's a liar, he's only making excuses because he just wants to destroy the giant."
Watching this scene back as an adult; I ask why didn't any of the soldiers that overheard the conversation between Dean and Mansley call him out when he deceives the general?
What would Kent's motive even be to tell such an egregious lie? My guess is that the giant humiliated him in front of his colleagues, so he wanted to get back at it.
To be fair, Kent should think about studying the robot than destroying it since the technology from the Giant is enough to tip the favor of the Cold War to the US side
Forget the Cold War, the giant can survive nukes and falls from orbit and propel itself into space, copying that technology is a first step to putting humanity on the stars.
That's what I was thinking even though it's not the Russians they would be afraid of anymore it's the rest of giants' race alongside his creators everyone would worry about.
Kent Mansley is someone we really love to hate and he's a well written villain who is accurate to a real corrupt official. Unlike characters like Buck Diamond (Kid vs. Kat) and Dirk Dumphrey (The 7D), Kent isn't overly exaggerated in terms of his bad traits and he isn't unnecessarily mean-spirited.
Anyone else think it was kind of fucked up for the military to fire a missile at the Iron Giant while there was a whole crowd of civilians literally centimeters from it?
You know as i get older I realize that there are 2 types of people those who see the world as it is and those who only see the world for how they see it, Kent only sees a world where he and only he is a hero and that is why he lied
Kent Mansley was like most government agents paranoid. Yes Kent was the villain but the the real villain was paranoia. The kids in the school they said that the monster was sent by foreign enemy to take over America. And many people during the Cold War feared that communist would take over America which was known at the time as the Red Scare and Kent's action could justify the means for the better or for the worst. McCarthyism was hot during that era and Mansley wanted to protect America from Communists or Soviet's.
I just always love the general in the sea who doesn't even hesitate to draw and shoot. I know the Giants a good guy and so is the general who's operating on completely false information.
Also overreaction by the military is a strong theme in 50's sci-fi (at least from what I understand) and since the entirety of The Iron Giant is designed around the 50s and 50s Sci-fi, so its also a design choice for the setting.
The reason why Kent is a villain is not because he's a jerk, by Paranoia he attempted to launch a missile on the Iron Giant justifying him as a villain
I am curious, what was Kent hoping to GAIN from wanting to destroy the giant?? Anybody have any idea? Or did he just want to kill the giant out of hysteria??
it was to gain a good name for himself. the creators claim he didn't have a good name and didn't get much work. he wanted to be the hero and make a good name for himself.
+andross51 He was a petty egotist that had become a laughing stock over his crazy claims about the giant and the threat it posed. Egotistical imbeciles will take highly stupid and even self destructive measures to shield and vindicate their fragile little bruised egos. Every day there are imbeciles that murder each other over far less.
Kent is a government agent. Gov agents, while they do make decent money and have benefits, are never gonna b rich or famous. Plus, many like Kent were lower incomes just sent out to small towns for investigations that may or may not be true
Kerry Dougherty Paranoia was pretty common back during the Cold War, as were lies by both sides. I think there's stuff we're not meant to understand; some things we couldn't understand even if we tried to, and we just have to accept it.
I told my brother that the mystery I set up was inspired and similar to the Beatles "Paul is Dead" story. This meant that the public would have to listen to the song "Athena" and look at my poster to see if the song is about my poster. Kent told me that he was burned on because of the "Paul is Dead" story the day it broke internationally. Then he told me that he would not allow that to hapen to him again. Then Kent told me that I couldn't prove that the song "Athena" is about my poster.
Who knows how many Kent Mansley's there are in the real world? Probably more than we should be comfortable with, and sadly most of them don't get what they deserve.
The falsehood comes from misinterpreting the meaning of a vague word. The relevant word here is the phrase, "he's got the kid with him." The military emphasizes clear communication, but they're not above occasional officialese and bad luck. Officialese includes euphemism. I don't think this is a lie, their contexts are just different and the English language is not a logical language is all. Mr. McChoppin believes that yelling at Mr. Mansley will make him better at understanding English, but unbeknownst to the civilian, Mansley can hear the words just fine. McChoppin said, "he's got the kid". Mansley must have misunderstood this as meaning, "he's [killed] the kid, he has the kid's remains." This is because the word "got" is a frequent euphemism for "killed". There's also pronoun trouble around the clause, "you've gotta make them stop". The civilian meant, "your unit needs to fall back and stand down." Mansley heard, "you need to compel the Iron Giant sufficiently to deny them movement." My guess is that the civilian is an artist from a good home, so he doesn't really understand what it means for someone to be in a cycle of revenge, which they find in the form of an enemy they feel is not like their nation. My suggestion in future incidents is, the correct phrase is, "sir, he's escorting the kid, your unit needs to fall back and stand down." Use this phrase, or don't talk to Mansley. He is the wrong person for you to have contact with. This movie is not just an animated family-friendly bloodless carnage fest, there's actually dialogue and plot here. That's quite an accomplishment for the industry.
Mm, no, he says "stop shooting/the giant's got the kid with him" In no world do those phrases as supporting statements make sense if the giant had killed the kid. He also flat out dismisses the evidence of his eyes and ears when he sees Hogarth in its hands. Like why would you want them to stop shooting if the kid was already dead lmao I think we can write this off as a lie.
What makes Kent even more a disturbing villain is that he never gave a damn about Hogarth potentially dying brutally and he's just a kid. All he cared about was his ego and impressing the general...he didn't even give a shit about nearly causing mass genocide by launching that nuclear missile, he only cared about saving himself. That's so dark man.
Great observation and right to the point. You nailed it.
It wasn't his ego tho. This was during the Cold War, Kent just represents the paranoia of that time. Literally anything could be the spark of WWIII, and everyone would be destroyed if that happend.
Mass-genocide is a bit extreme of a word to use. It's one town.
@@LennoxParsec It could still be both. In fact, it likely is, as the paranoia would only count for his initial suspicion and actions, but wouldn't account for his adamant refusal to admit he was wrong.
When Hogarth's mom shouts about how he's alive Kent is visibly upset
I cant help but wounder what happen to Kent after the movie finished. Considering how much of this disaster was his fault, plus calling in a nuclear strike against a still populated American town, he was probably given a very large prison sentence, if not life.
+Adoss shall rule all 1 thing's for sure, his career in the army/government is over.
+Adoss shall rule all
Probably executed for high treason.
+ScottieGirl20
maybe not. What if he became higher up in the government, with lie after lie about what happened, leading him to become the führer dictator of America and Canada leading to him taking over parts of Russia, all of Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, the UK, and Svalbard.
I'm sure he already went crazy from the Cold War paranoia and was probably admitted into an insane asylum. Most certainly, he was fired from whatever agency he worked for.
+Adlusis Dio Oh, no. Please not Svalbard.
"There's a kid in his hand!"
Kent removing his airpods: "Did you say he crushed a kid with his hand???"
I mean, a tank gun did just go off a few feet away from them. They'd be lucky to hear their own heartbeat.
😂
"he said the monsters killed the kid"
what so no one else heard him telling mansley that other thing even though he was yelling?
I'm pretty sure Kent told that flat-out lie to the General in a not-so-loud voice so the other soldiers couldn't hear him. He's nothing but a manipulative idiotic coward.
No he was doing what was best for humanity. The giant is an insanely powerful and advanced war machine and would have destroyed every city, home and person on the planet if it didnt have its head banged up on its way down. Kent knows that one life isn't worth risking millions or billions more, he needed to nuke it right now.
Considering the ending, that wouldn't even have worked
Slade Rheaume
Except we know for a fact that both him (and you) are completely wrong.
He wasn't helping anything, and your notion that just because something is powerful it should be killed just shows how arrogant humans are in these situations.
How about instead of being mad that it can't be overpowered, we just don't attack it?
He wasn't doing shit for earth, and if you did the same thing, neither would you.
You don't give a shit about "earth", it would all be about pride. He got his pride hurt, so he was a manipulative pathetic pussy of a coward.
He should be hated.
Slade Rheaume
Secondly, he wasn't doing anything here honorably. It wasn't like it was his PLAN to sacrifice himself and the town for earth's safety. He just straight up forgot that the giant was close by. It wasn't for the good of anyone but his reputation and ego. I know, because he tried to run like a bitch as soon as he heard the nuke was coming down on the town.
That sounded like it hurt so much. Especially with what sounded like gnashing metal underneath it. Kudos to the sound team.
this movie takes place During the cold war Right before they put laika in space
Yeah, with all that shrapnel and that hypersonic molten jet from the rocket
@@warriorcatsfan6906 that poor dog that the Soviets left to die in space
@@mattgerrish908 I giggled in public to this and I don't know why
@@N8-Fedslaughter is a way many people cope with tradhedy
Gotta admit the general a badass for whipping out that pistol while the iron giant was running full speed at him
Not just that, but when Dean actually gets to talk to General Rogard directly and communicates how the giant isn’t a threat and only retaliates when attacked, he genuinely listens to the guy instead of just dismissing him, consistently keeping a cool head and evaluating the situation to figure out how to resolve it with minimal casualties
@@Finchyay Exactly
Probably a WW2/Korea vet
I would high-five Kent... with a chair... to his face.
blastimir
Good idea
I love this comment ill,don't the chair you bring the muscle
Kent just wants revenge for 2 car crushes)
Make it the butt of a rifle and I'll buy you a beer
Same
That cry of pain that the Giant makes at 0:18 is really jarring. It doesn't seem to cause any exterior damage, but you can tell how much that tank shell hurt him. It probably busted him up internally - I can imagine whatever intricate systems he has in there shaking apart from the impact. I think he seems so stunned and groggy afterward because he's never felt pain like that. He doesn't react like an artificial weapon at all. Maybe he's some sort of alien mixture of metal and organism. I don't think he's simply a robot, but an actual member of the alien race.
It's cool how this movie keeps me reacting and speculating 14 years after I first watched it. It really shows it's quality.
Plottwist: He's a necron
It's kinda funny how that hurt him but later on he gets shot by those ships in the sea and it just tikles him.
Well to be fair.. at that point it was pretty much in a berserk rage, and probably ignored pain if he felt any. On top, the giant here had his combat programming probably damaged (the bump in his head that goes away when he decides to pull out all guns), and maybe as such he really didn't expected a sensation as intense as an explosion, and as such felt pain from it.
I think he was more surprised than actually hurt. I mean we see him take a nuke to the face and he's still fine.
@@AdeptKing yeah a lot of the time I'll shout "ouch!" When whatever hit me didn't really hurt and I just expected it to.
Part of me assumes that Kent wanted to try and kill Hogarth along with the Iron Giant.
Kent doesn't think about the consequences that his lies will cause before speaking them.
He's definately too spontanious and impulsive to think of what his actions will cause.
JReed1985 That's just it Kent never stops to think about the consequences of the things he says. In the movie Kent grabs the phone and calls in a nuclear strike on the Giant and unthinkingly on himself.
bill55ted He obviously had no idea how devastating nuclear weapons are, he took those propaganda videos too seriously.
JReed1985
Of course. Tables to defend against a shockwave and radioactive fallout. Legit...
Ah, the moment he went from antagonistic Government Agent doing his job, to outright villainous- in the eyes of the viewers (historians and political thinkers fill in the rest).
For me that point came when he interrogates Hogarth, up until then, I thought he was just a bit of a boo-hiss baddie to be laughed at.
The thing established from the very beginning is Kent is a paranoid xenophobe. He is so run by fear that he will do anything to make himself feel safe. He never cared about Hogarth.
it always use to shock me how Kent was willing to endanger Hogarth in order to kill the Giant , he was obsessed !
Yeah like whenever I read these greatest animated movie villains of all time lists I never see mansley on there and I’m like this agent literally doesn’t give a shit if children die HOW DOES HE NOT END UP ON MORE EVIL VILLAINS LISTS
@@daffyduck9323 Good point, Daffy Duck! Know that I stop and think about it Kent is a total villain
There are only 4 things I can think of that could make him worse
@@daffyduck9323 Kent Mansley bribes the nominators to keep him out of the greatest animated movie villains of all time. He's a sly bastard, very cunning
Well I’m just like think about it this isn’t like oh I’m gonna take over the city or oh I’m gonna blow some people up. children dying and this guys like eh f*** the kid like it’s amazing
0:16 I like the town's initial reaction completely subverts the 50s stereotype of panic and pandemonium that's the typical reaction put in propaganda films. But here this is regular people witnessing an out of this world robot go out of it's way for an heroic rescue and they. "Wow! This is such a cool robot!"
0:57 What really happens
1:06 What the media tells you
fact
Exactly
So accurate i almost forgot epstein didn't sudoku himself.
Pretty much.
Lol sad but chilling true....
when i was 4 i cannot descibe how much i took this movie seriously
what a cute little bean
You’re not the only one. I was really mad as soon as Kent said to the General that the Giant kills a kid. And when he order to launch the missile was absolutely the stupidest thing anyone ever did.
This should have gotten an Oscar.
There were no oscar of animation in the year it came out
tornamesa And that's a real shame, because it is so worthy.
Everlena Oliver I agree... saw this for the first time when I was 8. I cried. I'm 27, and it's really hard to make me cry now because I got in trouble if I did cry as I was growing up. Being conditioned to not cry... I still cried two days ago, as a 27 year old man, seeing this again...
Brandan C Cry and be proud of it!
Everlena Oliver, it is only several years ago animated movies were deemed “worthy” of Academy Awards. When they have moved us for years on end.
For those wondering, Kent is a xenophobic. He made no secret of his contempt for Sputnik 1 and all other foreign countries. He clearly said that the only reason he wanted to destroy the giant was simply because it’s not from them. Heck, the moment he saw the bitten off part of his car he was determined to kill the giant, regardless of how many lives (including Hogarth) he could kill and all the illegality of his actions.
@@hagonistheman7880 not the kruschev Era.
Does that mean he’s really racist?
@@sasparillagreg-9292 I wouldn't go so far as to say racist, but definitely xenophobic
@@hagonistheman7880 🤡🤦♀️
@@hagonistheman7880 so stupid people like you still exist? Go in your beloved "good" US and never think about the millions of civilians killed and more than 30 invasions of sovereign countries. The destruction of culture and civilization in these countries. The LITERAL sponsorship of terrorism (the way ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like appeared). You are an imbecile victim of American propaganda.
THAT M1911 FIRED MORE THAN 7 SHOTS IM CALLING HACKS
Extended clip maybe?...I don't know much about guns so not even sure if the kind of gun can have an extended clip..just a thought
*magizine
+MultiGamerGuy1 there's a difference
www.pewpewtactical.com/difference-gun-magazine-vs-clip/
Your welcome
0:12 - "Can we keep him?"
Idk why but I feel like a women or kid said “Can we keep him?”. To be honest that person is so me
He's always bringing pets home....I JUST FIGURED IT OUT
And Annie Hughes didn't believe Hogarth!
That's enough. No one likes a screw-up.
One can only assume Kent mansley ends up in federal prison.
Mike.India.Echo He was definitely executed by firing squad somewhere off screen
+Jackson “Untergrond” Begley
Yeah, there is no way he wasn't executed for high treason. He grabbed the general's phone and ordered a nuclear strike down on American civilians. Treason is one of the few crimes punishable by death and if there was ever an act of treason worthy of being put to death for, this is it.
+Melting Sky It just goes to show you how far liars will go. They don't stop to think, just react to their distorted view of the world.
@@JacksonBegleymusicguy let’s hope so
Prolly a life sentence without parole
When I heard Kent say "He said The Monster killed the kid" I was thinking to myself "Oh for christ sake. This guy won't give up."
Kent "Sir, the giant just killed a kid!" General "And you just called a nuclear strike and killed hundreds of kids!!"
I love how there are like a dozen military personnel with in ear shot of the junk yard guy and the general was only like 10 ft away but Kent still some how still got away with that bull shit.
0:20 OMG LOOK AT DEAN'S EYES!!
That is primal anger right there.
Aooag
Kent: he says the robot killed the kid
Soldier 1 who was standing right behind him: What no he didn't
Kent: Its my word against yours
Soldier 2: What i was there as well
Kent: WELL YOU ALL MISHEARD OR SOMETHING
General: someone please remove this guy
The soldiers who heard what Dean said didnt say shit when Kent told the lie to the general
No, but they didn't hear the lie either.
@@thomashaeyen6942 The general & the soldiers eventually find out that kent lied. "Hold ur fire. The boys alive?"
When he said "the monster killed the kid" I was thinking you damn bastard
I love the General, who just watched the Giant shrug off a tank shell as well as heavy machine gun fire, pulls out his pistol and unload the whole damn clip into it, instead of trying to escape
That blast on Iron Giant's back, that really must've hurt because he wasn't ready for that hit even though it didn't technically damage him.
But the rest of the scene is epic.
Kent has always struck me as someone who, if he had internet and access to web forums, he’d try to win an argument by pulling the government agent card (think, “I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals,” copypasta). He’s just so desperate to e taken seriously and to be seen as the most badass person in the room.
If he had Internet today, he would lose his shit over the Chinese spy balloon.
Kent's an embodiment of Cold War paranoia. If you see something strange that you don't understand, then it's probably a threat, and you should destroy it.
This movie is the most wholesome of all time and no one can convince me otherwise
It's really sad that people like Mansley Kent are multiplying now on the Internet and Politics...
*Sweet mother of God.*
Ten year old me- "Realizing that characters can actually swear in a kids movie"
Look! Damn You hu hu hu!
Joke's on 10 yr old you, at absolute worst he might be using the lord's name in vain. But he's not cursing whatsoever. Older movies could get away with actual minor cursing. I think they were allowed to be in as long as they were used in proper context and only used a certain number of times.
Rogard did say "Damn it" a couple of times... once in the beginning when Kent called him and later when the giant turned into a war machine after thinking Hogarth died.
Jokes on you this is not a movie primarily for kids
Warner Bros is for a general audience after all
“This is all your fault beatnik!” 😂
Iron Giant: I am NOT… a gun.
Me: I’m glad you’re back, big guy! 😁
I remember crying and shouting “NO!” When they shot him- 😭
0:33 the general went all general Patton, only he wasn't shooting at a plane, and Patton actually did shoot at planes.
0:51 Kent: This is all your fault, beatnik!
Ha, ha. S'not funny.
I present to you the American Badass General Rogard…that man who shot a pistol at a giant charging robot.
Iron Giant is undoubtedly one of the greatest movies ever made!
Kent Mansley "He says the monster's killed the kid. Sir, we must stop it at all costs."
Me "Don't listen to him, General. He's a liar, he's only making excuses because he just wants to destroy the giant."
I think someone's been watching too much television.
Unfortunately, my friend, in the real world, evil quite often prevails.
Wow, Kent REALLY wants to kill the giant!
Watching this scene back as an adult; I ask why didn't any of the soldiers that overheard the conversation between Dean and Mansley call him out when he deceives the general?
You don't break the chain of command so easily. He probably wouldn't of listened anyway.
Unfortunately it is also one of the most underrated movies ever made.
What would Kent's motive even be to tell such an egregious lie? My guess is that the giant humiliated him in front of his colleagues, so he wanted to get back at it.
He wanted to have a good name for himself.
Pure *spite*
The 10 soldiers around him
"He had the kid or he killed him?"
Dean was right about the GIANT being attacked. He was serious Kent.
I would listen to Dean. Kent was too arrogant & useless.
Im gonna tell my kids the iron giant prevented ww3
I love the animation and art style for this movie
To be fair, Kent should think about studying the robot than destroying it since the technology from the Giant is enough to tip the favor of the Cold War to the US side
Forget the Cold War, the giant can survive nukes and falls from orbit and propel itself into space, copying that technology is a first step to putting humanity on the stars.
That's what I was thinking even though it's not the Russians they would be afraid of anymore it's the rest of giants' race alongside his creators everyone would worry about.
Kent Mansley is someone we really love to hate and he's a well written villain who is accurate to a real corrupt official. Unlike characters like Buck Diamond (Kid vs. Kat) and Dirk Dumphrey (The 7D), Kent isn't overly exaggerated in terms of his bad traits and he isn't unnecessarily mean-spirited.
Anyone else think it was kind of fucked up for the military to fire a missile at the Iron Giant while there was a whole crowd of civilians literally centimeters from it?
In this age and time, there’s no time to be reasonable
0:19 That scream and pain felt so real.
0:37 Those are M-41 Walker Bull Dog Tanks!
Kent: "It killed a kid!"
*The President of America:* "Real shit?"
All the people who doubted Earl in the beginning need to apologise and buy the man a drink.
LOL they probably did
@@armorpro573 Either whiskey or beer.
@@satireisnotdead5804 That too
I love that the general is fighting alongside his men, pulling out his 45 and using both hands to shoot
The Iron Giant with my favorite growing up as a kid
Dean Is Telling Truth
Kent Is Telling A Lie
Kent is still not lying.
You know as i get older I realize that there are 2 types of people those who see the world as it is and those who only see the world for how they see it, Kent only sees a world where he and only he is a hero and that is why he lied
Kent Mansley was like most government agents paranoid. Yes Kent was the villain but the the real villain was paranoia. The kids in the school they said that the monster was sent by foreign enemy to take over America.
And many people during the Cold War feared that communist would take over America which was known at the time as the Red Scare and Kent's action could justify the means for the better or for the worst. McCarthyism was hot during that era and Mansley wanted to protect America from Communists or Soviet's.
*Sees the last part of the scene*
Me: Yeah, like fighter jets would solve anything.
I just always love the general in the sea who doesn't even hesitate to draw and shoot. I know the Giants a good guy and so is the general who's operating on completely false information.
Also overreaction by the military is a strong theme in 50's sci-fi (at least from what I understand) and since the entirety of The Iron Giant is designed around the 50s and 50s Sci-fi, so its also a design choice for the setting.
Deserved more love than it got. Good fucking movie.
This movie is so underrated
That soldier was right there with Dean yelling that Hogarth was in his hands.
Instead of flying towards the missile and stopping from exploding on the town, Iron Giant should’ve thrown Kent at it. It’s a win win
Also, that would have clashed with the moral of the story.
@@ernovincze2900 this comment was a joke dude
1:15 President Dwight "Ike" Eisenhower.
(October 14th 1890 - March 28th 1969)
Did anyone know Vin Diesel played the robots Voice?- FUn fact :)=
I am his biggest fan of The Fast and the Furious and one of my son's favorite Disney movies, The Pacifier.
0:17 If this ever gets a live-action remake, the guy in the foreground should be played by Wayne Knight
I want to speak to a grown-up!
The Iron Giant is arguably a better animated film than The Lego Movie because the former has both good and strong ambitious.
Imagine lying so you do not get fired
He’s lying to his general for trying to revenge Hoggard.
That's HO-GARTH!
(Stupid idiot......)
XD
@@ARedMagicMarker Hog Hug?! Hogarth Hughes!
"you just had them fire on the giants' postion, WhErE's ThE gIaNt MaNsLeY???"
We can duck and cover.
We are Groot !!!
This is one of the best responses I have read thank you for posting it.
Whenever the general was firing the pistol from the jeep, they used the same sound effects when the T1000 fires his pistol in terminator 2.
Kent has this corrupted mind.
Kent Mansley feels like a character that I think Josh Lucas would play as if this film got turned into a live action remake.
Well he did play Glenn Talbot in the 2003 film, Hulk. I agree this would be a perfect fit for him.
The reason why Kent is a villain is not because he's a jerk, by Paranoia he attempted to launch a missile on the Iron Giant justifying him as a villain
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When I first saw this movie I thought Mansley was gonna punch Dean in the face.
I am curious, what was Kent hoping to GAIN from wanting to destroy the giant?? Anybody have any idea? Or did he just want to kill the giant out of hysteria??
it was to gain a good name for himself. the creators claim he didn't have a good name and didn't get much work. he wanted to be the hero and make a good name for himself.
+andross51
He was a petty egotist that had become a laughing stock over his crazy claims about the giant and the threat it posed. Egotistical imbeciles will take highly stupid and even self destructive measures to shield and vindicate their fragile little bruised egos. Every day there are imbeciles that murder each other over far less.
Kent is a government agent. Gov agents, while they do make decent money and have benefits, are never gonna b rich or famous. Plus, many like Kent were lower incomes just sent out to small towns for investigations that may or may not be true
Hard to believe that Kent Mansley was voiced by Jor-El from Superman.
It's the same voice actor. Also, he was in one of my son's favorite Disney movies, starring Robin Williams; Flubber.
1:15
That better be Dwight D. Eisenhower, or else.
The movie took place in 1957. So, yes, that was President Eisenhower.
When I first watched this, I assumed Kent misinterpreted what he said about the kid, just assuming the worst from the giant.
Can we appreciate how the General shot at the Giant with his sidearm?
No
He went full on Patton.
My mother was schocked when she saw Mansley lying about Hoggart.
Damn him.
That's Hogarth!
Kent tells a lie, pretty much the whole movie?
Kent told a big lie to destroy something he didn't understand.
Yes, he did in real life and in this cartoon.
Kerry Dougherty Yup.
Kerry Dougherty Paranoia was pretty common back during the Cold War, as were lies by both sides. I think there's stuff we're not meant to understand; some things we couldn't understand even if we tried to, and we just have to accept it.
-Eat lead, giant alien superpowered robot!!!
-Kent, be my support table.
-Mmmm, It seems it eats lead.
I like how all of the soldiers have assault rifles,tanks and rockets but the general has a pistol
Should you shut up and listen never gets old
I told my brother that the mystery I set up was inspired and similar to the Beatles "Paul is Dead" story. This meant that the public would have to listen to the song "Athena" and look at my poster to see if the song is about my poster. Kent told me that he was burned on because of the "Paul is Dead" story the day it broke internationally. Then he told me that he would not allow that to hapen to him again.
Then Kent told me that I couldn't prove that the song "Athena" is about my poster.
That moment when you realize the iron giant is voiced by Vin Diesel.
You're correct, sir!
I don't think he's lying. In fact, he's not really evil.
He's just morally challenged.
That's a great response, and reflects the times we are living in. Kent was just telling alternative facts.
Mr. President we have a situation sir/
Who knows how many Kent Mansley's there are in the real world? Probably more than we should be comfortable with, and sadly most of them don't get what they deserve.
The falsehood comes from misinterpreting the meaning of a vague word. The relevant word here is the phrase, "he's got the kid with him." The military emphasizes clear communication, but they're not above occasional officialese and bad luck. Officialese includes euphemism. I don't think this is a lie, their contexts are just different and the English language is not a logical language is all. Mr. McChoppin believes that yelling at Mr. Mansley will make him better at understanding English, but unbeknownst to the civilian, Mansley can hear the words just fine. McChoppin said, "he's got the kid". Mansley must have misunderstood this as meaning, "he's [killed] the kid, he has the kid's remains." This is because the word "got" is a frequent euphemism for "killed". There's also pronoun trouble around the clause, "you've gotta make them stop". The civilian meant, "your unit needs to fall back and stand down." Mansley heard, "you need to compel the Iron Giant sufficiently to deny them movement." My guess is that the civilian is an artist from a good home, so he doesn't really understand what it means for someone to be in a cycle of revenge, which they find in the form of an enemy they feel is not like their nation. My suggestion in future incidents is, the correct phrase is, "sir, he's escorting the kid, your unit needs to fall back and stand down." Use this phrase, or don't talk to Mansley. He is the wrong person for you to have contact with. This movie is not just an animated family-friendly bloodless carnage fest, there's actually dialogue and plot here. That's quite an accomplishment for the industry.
Mm, no, he says "stop shooting/the giant's got the kid with him"
In no world do those phrases as supporting statements make sense if the giant had killed the kid. He also flat out dismisses the evidence of his eyes and ears when he sees Hogarth in its hands. Like why would you want them to stop shooting if the kid was already dead lmao
I think we can write this off as a lie.
My favorite movie since childhood.