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She did end up leaving him. It was confirmed. I was so relieved to hear that! My mum was like Suzie for a long time. She left my bio dad when I was 2 months old after he left me alone for 2 hours to go to a bar with his buddies.
The moment Suzie struck a conversation with Helga's mom Miriam, THAT had me curious those years ago as a kid. They do have something in common in terms of being under-appreciated, married women. But at the same time, they knew something was missing in their lives too outside of their respective marriages.
I really liked that scene. You're right, they were both experiencing the same struggles with their husbands and had a lot in common. I liked seeing Miriam and Suzie be adventurous and go out of their comfort zones. The trip to the beach was much needed for them, and it was nice seeing them have some fun. I wish we saw more of Suzie and Miriam together.
twist58 Susie's situation is pretty sad. All the manipulation, lies, and false promises from Oscar. Sure he learns a lesson after every episode, it's always one thing after another and Susie always falls for it. And yes you're right, Susie and Miriam get along great. They could be best friends. Miriam is the way that she is b/c of the toxic home situation and is depressed. All she needs is to find constant hobbies to occupy herself and develop some self-esteem.
@@DialUpDigest I will say this for bob, at least he has a job, unlike a deadbeat like oskar. Yah, they're both self-serving and hardly ever show any love & affection for their wives, but between oskar & bob, i'd say i have a higher opinion of bob.
Susie and Oscar clearly had a green card marriage. Once Oscar got his green card she saw no reason to stay. I hope she found love again and will tell her children about her first husband as a cautionary tale.
I don’t think so, but she was very dependent on him for emotional validation, such as signs of damaged self worth, which ties into wanting to be the savior (Oskar is obviously damaged goods), and also possible family expectations and experiences. Susie seems to show signs of all these. Maybe she was getting older and hadn’t found anyone and her father was strict and misogynistic and Susie thought this is what “normal” was. I hear that she left him in the end, though not sure if true, but I’m rooting for her! Oskar can rot.
@joshuahecht6866 Where did you hear this? She comes off as someone who was maybe bullied in school and had very few friends. And when she met Oscar, she relied on him as a companion.
@@ellandecampbell6279 In actuality Suzy was the abuser in the situation. Since she's the one throwing things at him. Things that can easily brake and seriously hurt him.
As a kid, I just thought people were being mean to Oskar and now as an adult, I could see why practically no one could stand him as he wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of others if it was for his own gain. I also have this theory that Oskar may have grown up in extreme poverty in his country and may have used scamming/ manipulation to get by as he's shown to be illiterate until Arnold teaches him how to read .
I always thought he was hilarious but now as an adult, I can see how destructive he was. Good point, maybe Oskar's manipulative behavior is something he learned as a way to deal with his home environment. That would explain why he didn't see anything wrong with how he was acting, it was like he saw it as normal.
I always knew Oscar was lazy and selfish as a kid. And I always knew Suzie got fed up with him at times. But I didn’t realize how dark and toxic their marriage was. She clearly has low self-esteem to continue being married to someone like him.
Another question is why Phil and Gertie allow him to remain there. It’s a boarding house, not a homeless shelter. The tenants have to pay rent monthly to stay there. Where is he getting money for the rent?
@@thesamuraihobbit I thought it was strange too how after Suzie kicked him out, he just lurked around in Arnold's room. I guess they saw him like a family member and assumed the fight was just temporary so they let him stay? 🤷 lol
That's awesome! It's cool how some Nickelodeon voice actors got roles in different shows, even though sometimes it's hard to realize it unless you look it up, lol 👍
Any episodes that show a positive change in Oskar was never brought up again. Him learning to read or become more independent. None of that stuck and he always reverted back to being a loser.
@@ikennakonkwo5939 That sounds pretty good to me, Ikenna! Even though I tried to focus on Suzie in this video, I couldn't talk about her without also talking about Oskar. So much of her character revolved around him.
I do not blame poor Suzie one bit. A friend of mine had a girlfriend who was just like Oskar, she had a job but she was lazy and expected him to take care of her all the time. He paid the bills, did all of the chores, went to work, cooked, etc. Thankfully they broke up and he found a better girlfriend who he's marrying in a few weeks. But you are right, Oskar was a toxic husband, no matter how many times Suzie wanted him to change, he didn't do it. I think that years ago, Suzie was naive and in love with Oskar and he needed an easy path to citizenship. But a few years later when the honeymoon phase ended it resulted in what we're seeing in the series. Of course, Suzie's character prevented her from filing for divorce because she still cared for him. However, I'm so glad Craig didn't sugarcoat their relationship, and eventually it was confirmed that by the Jungle movie she divorced him.
I'm glad your friend is in a better relationship now 👍 I agree, Suzie was naive and in love. I think Oskar took advantage of that and her kind and patient nature. Oskar knew he could get away with whatever he wanted to do because Suzie cared about him and wanted to be in a relationship with him. She kept letting things go, but of course, at one point enough was enough.
@@rulasmania If we're being completely honest, Oskar is the type of guy that would throw 1 punch and lpse balance and ask Suzie to help him get up because he broke his back in the process 😂
@@aztecakidgames3672 No wonder I got confused since they are both named the same thing and I would only tell them apart by how their names are spelled.
I find it pretty satisfying that Sussie finally got the nerve to finally leave him. She deserved so much better. But I like to think maybe they keep in touch and she still has a good relationship with the Borders.
Agreed. She deserved much better than Oskar. I could see her keeping in touch with the boarders as well. She got along great with them, it was just Oskar who was causing her problems.
@@DialUpDigest Right, I can imagine her being sad about leaving the Boarding House, but it would of been for the best. I also like to think she and Miriam keep in touch and maybe Susie helped her get over her drinking problem.
Suzie represents a responsible mother figure to the children watching Hey Arnold. Kids know what it's like to be told to do chores around the house, help out, and for somebody else to be making all the money. Of course, you can't go around parenting your spouse. Such a relationship is doomed to fail.
I think Oscar was a King and suzie just dont realize his value. Hes a 10/10. What did she bring to the table? As a strong and independet man you should know your value
I think from a moral and religious standpoint is why she stayed with Oscar. She might have had beliefs of leaving your spouse outside infidelity is sinful which is why she supported him. He did tried to better himself and get a job here and there, but still he was not following religious protocol. He was a cheat, swindler, and slothful.
That's a very good point. Religious and/or moral reasons for staying in a marriage even if you aren't always happy is very common. She maybe saw marriage as a scared institution where breaking it was only permissible on extreme grounds.
Suzie (and Didi Hill) were cautionary tales for me at a time when I was just introduced to Bridget Jones. This is what happens when you have lowered standards for partners and are desperate to get married. You get saddled with jerks who have so many demands for you.
Exactly. Always hold yourself highly and never settle. There's nothing worse than attracting those who think that you're desperate - people who just want to take advantage of your situation and don't care at all 😔
Susie definitely. Didi Hill I think it just one of those strange relationships that kind of work. Didi wasn't desperate to get married and be married. She did genuinely love Cotton. She was a candy striper nurse which means she probably likes taking care of people. And even though he openly disrespects her, he does love her too. Didi also doesn't seem to let the verbal abuse get to her. Then again she may not be all there.
I think Oskar had a lot of negative attributes that made it difficult to sympathize with him, even if he was in a bad situation. I think for many of us, unless you could see him from a different perspective or relate to him in some way, it would be hard to look past his faults and feel sorry for him sometimes.
My favorite was her throwing plates at him while Arnold caught them, and Oskar's only response was, "Oh GREAT, in this country I dodge furniture and in my home country I dodged the army!"
She was one f the adults I liked. It was cute when she sympathized with Arnold when he had to do Oskar's Paper Boy job for him. It was nice to seem them interact.
I liked that moment too. It was a rare time where we saw Suzie talk to another woman. I like how they got along well, Suzie's always upset in the show 😢
I hope the show gets rebooted as well. Apparently the show's creator, Craig Bartlett had said if the Rugrats reboot is successful, there might be a chance for a season 6 of Hey Arnold, so there's hope! 👍
Oskar is the person i swore to myself to never become. Dude is litteral replica of my biological father AND biological mother.one of my biggest fear ,is to become just like him.
I think Oskar was a lesson for all of us of how you don't want your life to turn out - being unemployed, dependent on others, rude, lazy, deceitful, narcissistic...
Susie left Oscar after the first Hey Arnold movie? I don't blame her. Haven't seen The Jungle Movie in a while but I remember not seeing Susie at all. Now I see what Craig Bartlett did. Clever move.
I must admit that I am surprised to learn that Suzie left Oscar after the events of Hey Arnold the movie. It was most definitely for the best for both Suzie and Oscar, but it's still a surprise considering how long Suzie stayed with Oscar. In the end, it was time for Suzie to move on and make a better life for herself. If Suzie left Oscar, then where's she living now?
Good question. I wonder where Suzie is now too. Maybe she moved back in with her mother or got her own place? I wonder how Oskar is paying rent as well, he didn't have a job. He must have had to finally get one or else he'd never be able to pay rent and stay at the boarding house.
I could also see Phil having Oskar do various tasks around the boardinghouse while giving him an ultimatum: you can either pay the rent in cash or you work it off, or you’re outta here!
As an adult, I assume Oskar was just packing a lot of salami and that's why Suzie got with him. Of course, it wasn't enough to keep her because she's nowhere to be seen in the Jungle Movie.
I hate being a workaholic, which is why I feel terrible for Suzie. I think Suzie should have divorced a long time ago. If you ask me Oskar was clearly never the right person for Suzie to have a relationship with. I could never imagine being in a marriage with a spouse like Oskar.
I agree, Suzie was working a lot. She must have been stressed having so many responsibilities. It must have hurt her to see someone who she loved not recognizing she needed help and not stepping up to make her life a little easier.
You're right Ellande, domestic violence is never the answer. No matter how badly someone treats someone, throwing objects and making others afraid is not an appropriate response.
Very clear narcissistic/codependent relationship Susie was raised walking on eggshells and constantly neglected and insulted by her parents which made her desperate for love and led her to believe that this treatment was normal, and feel like she needed Oscar as well due to years of gaslighting, manipulation, and abuse that makes you doubt yourself. But she was very resilient with a very good heart. definitely also an empath. Oscar was obviously a narcissist. But he seems to have a bit more empathy than they usually do. Just a bit. He WANTED to be good, but he really couldn’t. Usually that comes from more childhood abuse and fundamental beliefs of lack of control, and limitation. Their inner world is really dark so they have to steal their energy from others. It’s a sad dynamic. I lived it for my whole life until recently
I've always wondered about Susie's parents and what they thought of Oskar. It's unfortunate we didn't see them on the show. But I think Susie likely did come from a home where such toxic behaviors were present. I don't know how someone could tolerate that kind of behavior unless they grew up in an environment where it was normalized. I think Susie was an empath too. She really wanted to see Oskar as his potential she thought he had, instead of seeing him for who he was. I think Oskar was a narcissist too. His home life was probably problematic as well. It's sad, they both came from destructive homes and then came together and made a new one. 😔 Good to hear you're no longer living in that dynamic!
That would have been awesome. I wonder if she had any siblings and what they thought of Oskar...and what Oskar thought of them! lol he wasn't that great at forming healthy relationships even outside his marriage with Suzy 😂
I agree. She was working a job to support both of them and had to take care of all the house chores by herself. Oskar acted like a child instead of a partner 🙁
@@DialUpDigest Yes and how she was able to meet him and agreed to marry him is sort of a mystery for me. Honestly no woman would marry a lazy man child like Oskar unless they couldn't take care of themselves.
I am writing about Hey Arnold show myself and I love your videos. You are capable of identify different sides of the relationships without falling into dehumanizing the characters. I remember as a child I didn't like Oskar, but I didn't try to see the whole picture, i just hated him and I didn't pay very much attention to Suzie. As an adult, it surprises me how realistic is this cartoon and how it wasn't afraid to show us real life people. Not perfect families, not perfect marriages, not perfect female protagonist. Just real people living the day to day. Improving or quitting personal relationships according to their experiences, accepting that sometimes people are together for love but that doesn't mean that love is going always to be enough. ❤️ I like how they were not afraid to show children that life is not as easy and is different for each one of us.
Thank you for this awesome comment Daniels! 👍 Yes, I try my best to show how these characters are multidimensional and aside from their obvious characteristics 😊. I liked how this show wasn't afraid to show real life to children too. It was unique at the time, and even now, I can't think of any cartoon shows for kids that showed adult life as realistic as Hey Arnold! did. I respect the shows' writers for being so bold and unafraid to talk about issues adults faced like domestic violence because it is a very traumatic reality for kids who had to experience it. Exactly, personal relationships are confusing and difficult and everyone has their own way of navigating them. 🙌
We will never understand what attached her to Oskar after all he has donde to ruin her live. The moment Oskar decided to leave the house and refused her money, I have to say I was feeling happy for her until she came out of the room and didn't leave him leave. :(
I agree Fabián, I guess we'll never know why she kept Oskar around so long and why she ultimately decided to leave (unless there's a season 6 and it is explained!). I was happy when Oskar refused to take the money too. It showed how he had grown. However, I think Miriam was a little too excited about it and should have let him leave. He probably would have had to come back after he spent all the money Suzie gave him anyway 🤔
My theory is that her father is probably a narcissist type and she must have to took big responsibilities since a very young age (being a parent for one or both of her parents). So this is why she is so attracted to him because he is a person who has the same traits that she is already familiar with and puts her in situation that she is already used to, especially if this person seems much alike to the first man of her life. I also suspect she probably has fear of abandonment caused by a traumatic event also in a very young age... so the ideia of being alone for her seems more scary than being a disfunction relationship for the rest of her life
Susie strikes me as a person who’d most likely been abused before she met Oskar. Not sure if it was by her parents or another partner, but she almost seems used to it in a way. That’s probably why she puts up with Oskar’s crap all the time and remains loyal to him no matter how badly he treats her. I feel like Susie almost feels sorry for Oskar in a way and kinda knows he’s always going to need somebody to take care of him. Therefore, she’s taken this responsibility and almost takes care of him as if he were her son instead of her husband. However, it has only enabled her to become a slave to not only Oskar but herself too. Very sad.
This is what I love about Arnold, it shows us that the adults act like kids, and the actual kids have to solve so many of their problems. Much like real life. But Oscar being illiterate can show how this affects his capacity for emotional empathy. And he does sort of grow, for the most part. He tries to kick old habits, Arnold helps shape him into a (again, for the most part) better adult. And just like real life all these characters have their ups and downs. Him more than most, but this shows how much actual growth he needs. And god Bless Susie, she has so much resilience. It is realistic, but sad, the dynamics of their relationship. The cycle, all of it. Sometimes, we can do better but don't know it, like Susie. Or sometimes, we don't know how good our better half is, until we almost lose her, like Oscar.
Hilarious that she had better romance and chemistry with Miriam in 1 episode (Summer Girl) than with her own husband (same situation applies for Miriam). also why is she pogging in the thumbnail
“Why should we fight when YOU know we’re going to make up?” I feel like that’s Oscar telling Susie there’s no reason she should ever get mad at him since she’ll always come back to him
I don’t agree with Suzie resulting to domestic violence against Oscar but he shouldn’t have treated her like his mother. It was later confirmed by the creators that she did actually leave him and moved away.
@@DialUpDigest my theory is when he got laid off, he got complacent being unemployed the more time passed and like you said before, she might have married him for his potential but after getting married he might have lost his spark and instead of her doing everything for him upon returning from work, she just got stuck with doing everything for him for nothing in return. At the same time, Oskar probably isn’t looking for work intentionally because he might think that because he has a home and a wife that does everything for him (in a sort of old world mentality), he already did everything he needed to do in life so he’s fine at whatever point of life he is while being too lazy to strive for more since he’s settling for less.
I agree, Suzie was way too good for Oskar. I would have loved to see how they met as well. Actually, Suzie mentioned in the episode, "Family Man" when she was pretending to be Mr. Hyunh's wife, that Arnold introduced them. However, I don't know if that's true because he would have been 6 years old...lol 😅
@@DialUpDigest In that episode, Mr. Hyunh's boss asked "How could your son introduce you to your husband?" That's not impossible. Mr. Hyunh could have said "I am Arnold's stepfather. He introduced his mother to me." Obviously your son couldn't have introduced you to his biological father, but he could introduce you to a man who becomes his stepfather.
Not going to lie. Me and my baby momma had a relationship like this. I was the bread winner all the time but after a few months I became OsKar. We decide to split after just 5 months. It is what it is.
I think Sussie stayed with Oscar because she felt needed by him. She was extremely competent but at the same time she needs somebody to take care of in order to feel needed. Unfortenety, Oscar was the extreme of being a leech so drove Sussie to be angry
I agree, I think at least part of the reason why she stayed was because she liked the feeling of being needed by someone. But I think she maybe also felt bad for him because he couldn't take care of himself so she stayed out of pity.
If my poverty theory isn't the case I think Oskar may have had narcisstic personality disorder as narcissists are very manipulative and capable of charming others hence why Suzie married him .But good for Suzie for possibly leaving Oskar
Another good theory! True, being manipulative is a trait of those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Oskar was definitely manipulative! That may also explain how he managed to get Suzie to marry him and stay with him for so long.
I think that maybe the reason why Susie stayed with Oscar for so long was maybe because she felt sorry for him and also because she was a fixer- someone who tries to repair the other person’s problems when in a relationship. There is a lot of evidence of Susie being a fixer through-out the show like whenever she couldn’t bare to see Oscar in discomfort or felt responsible for his mood swings and happiness. In addition to that Susie also would often suggest quick solutions to problems that they had which is another sign of being a fixer. In addition to their relationship, I also believe that Oscar might have an unspoken fear of failure as exampled in the episode where he first learned to read. What if the main reason of why he always tells Susie that he’ll get a job tomorrow is due to a fear of failure and self-esteem issues? It wouldn’t excuse his neglectful behavior, but it might give some insight as to the reason for his laziness. What could also be adding to this possible fear is the fact that with Susie is so responsible with their home-life and at her job. Maybe in seeing Susie being so responsible, made Oscar doubt himself. I’m not saying that I’m right, but it’s possible.
Awesome comment Megan! 🌟 I agree, Suzie did seem like the fixer type. Those are really good observations, Suzie was always looking to solve other people's problems. It made her very helpful, which is great, but it also made it easy for Oskar to take advantage of her. I've never thought of that, but that's a really plausible point - maybe Oskar had a fear of failure. Maybe that was why he was reluctant to get a job, he was scared of getting rejected and failing. Seeing Suzie be successful managing the home and hold down a job, maybe made Oskar doubt his abilities too.
@@DialUpDigestEver since the episode where Oskar finally learned how to read, I always got the strong feeling that maybe education wasn't a high priority in Oskar's childhood home-life. Mind you, that we are not given much about his childhood, but I don't think that Oskar came from a home that was all that supportive. And for all we know he could be lacking in other educational areas too.
That’s an interesting analysis, especially since this hits a little too close to home for me. I came from parents who valued education and accomplishments, sure, but down the line my father revealed his true nature - he was barely literate, unreasonable, and spent all our money on frivolous things, and that’s how he was raised to be. He was just like Oskar in a lot of ways, but he was also verbally abusive, which doesn’t strike me as an Oskar trait, but since they’re not the protagonists we can’t analyze one way or another about this. My mother was a lot like Susie, from her ambition to her frustration - and yes, she’s definitely a fixer. She stayed with my dad for 18 years despite cheating and verbal abuse “for the sake of the kids” but deep down she was just as spineless and insecure as my father, and took out her anger on me at first and then my sister (my only one - both of my other sisters are dead), which I’ve never quite forgiven her for. Not to mention that my mom was so depressed about her marriage falling apart that I had to take over with raising a kid who wasn’t mine, and that was a disaster. My mixed bipolar disorder was manifesting in a quick and rather violent way, and I’m still ashamed of it but also working on it every day. Finally, when my mom snapped out of her “pity me” phase she decided to separate us to see how it would go. It didn’t go well. My mom is so damaged by my dad that she still can’t look either of us in the eyes without being angry. She’s even said to my sister she wished the kid had never been born. My mom needs therapy but refuses to go because “therapy doesn’t work”. Basically what I’m trying to say is, Susie would never have recovered from the trauma of Oskar if they’d had kids, so it’s a good thing that they didn’t even try. People like Susie are wonderful friends and they deserve better - and I really was happy for her that she finally left him. At least she had more guts than my mom did and realized that, as much as she loved Oskar, she would always be miserable with him. And she was smart enough not to have children with him - she’s smarter than my mom too, in a lot of ways. But that analysis of Oskar makes me feel sorry for him too - being from parents who celebrate accomplishments and dole out affection accordingly and not at any time I needed it, I never really felt secure within myself. My father also wanted me to be the perfect child, otherwise he would be abusive. I can relate to Oskar if his failures as a child resulted in his being abused by his parents, which is unfortunately common in countries like the former Czechoslovakia. I too have a crippling fear of failure, so I have a hard time with trying new things because of my fear of failure. Anyhow, enough about my sad past. This was a really great analysis into Susie’s and Oskar’s characters and I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
10:34 Really! Because I thought it was after or during Hey Arnold the Jungle Movie when Susie and Oscar both decided to call it quits for their marriage.
I remember the Oskar can’t read episode. At first he had someone help him memorize the words of the book rather than learn to read them. But someone, I think it was Ernie, set a trap by giving him a different book and asking him to read it again.
I’m glad I have a job, a truck, clothes, money and most importantly a family that still loves me so whenever I feel bad about myself I remember that I’m not as big of a loser as Oskar
Suzie is naive but insanely caring, hardworking, and forgiving. A case can be made for most people who are willing to try and do better or pull their weight even with faults, but Oskar is portrayed as being the most pathetic man-child bum I've seen in animation. Suzie is a saint for putting up with him for so long.
Susie needs Oskar because some people NEED to be NEEDED. My Mom is just like Susie, if no one needs her or depends on her then she will get depressed. Now I'm not saying Susie is spineless not one bit because she wears the pants in that relationship and it shows but some people don't feel fulfilment unless someone is so helpless and needs someone to rely on. But she does have a breaking point in the examples you've shown so she will put her foot down but when Oskar shows humility and empathy she's on cloud 9 again in their marriage.
I get battered wife syndrome vibes from Suzie. It's a possibility since Oscar is an alcoholic, who knows what kind of conflict went on early in their relationship. One thing that was sweet about their relationship is that they always talk out their squabbles.
I think she may have been suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome as well. You're right, at least there was one thing good about their relationship - they talked to each other.
Yeah, I think I saw an instagram post wishing a happy birthday to Freddie’s mom’s actress and I could not believe it when I saw she was the voice of Suzi in hey Arnold. At least that’s what I think I remember. Why didn’t I see this show when I was a little girl watching icarly at the same time?
Suzi's being in that relationship is a good example of the sunk cost fallacy. That you put so much time, effort, money etc in to something (job, hobby relationships) that to give up is a waste. That you've gone so far, why give up now. It's something that allot of people experience in all forms of life. But is especially applicable here
I love the fact that Suzi left him it was the best thing for her. As an kid I was hoping Oskar would change his ways and try to get an better paying job or at least help Suzi around the boarding house. (Something better then being a paperboy.) But no such efforts were ever made on his part sadly. That would have been an equally sweet story to show Oskar actually leaving Suzi and start working on himself to be a better person the man she deserves. Meanwhile Suzi finding romance else where with man who fully appreciates her. They could have made a good story arc with it. But as an adult I realize Suzi leaving is the best thing for Suzi. I'm glad she did leave him! I headcanon that she still talks with Miriam from time to time though.
Not going to lie but I felt sorry for her I still don't know what she saw it in him from the beginning. If that's true they got a divorce I'm grateful for that she deserves someone so much better then this guy
Another thing. Now the 2 are divorced, I'm surprised Bob and Mirium haven't got a divorced yet. Then again, there was supposed to be character development in the Patakis. Too bad that spin off never happened.
You know I used to watch hey Arnold and have to say one of my favorite characters bizarrely was Oscar Petoskey Susie was mistreated but I believe Susie loved Oscar and no to put up in this treatment because when you see that it's kind of crazy it shows you that even as a kid which Arnold had learned in most of the series with Oscar but you know great things come about this and I think Oscar was not only a learning character but he was a driving force behind the hey Arnold series
Interesting perspective. Oskar was a very flawed character, but I think that was a good thing because it gave him a lot of room to grow. It was nice seeing him learn to read, get a job, take care of a baby and appreciate Suzie more like when he told her to "keep da money". Susie put up with him, but he did show he had the capacity to change.
@@DialUpDigest I can see from her interactions with Arnold that she cares about him like if he's her nephew or little cousin. And the other boarders are like true friends or siblings. Oskar is a nice guy and all but he needs to get himself together.
Lol, if Oskar was always asking her for them, they must have been amazing. Maybe he figured he couldn't make it like she did so that's why he never bothered making his own 😆
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Question: What did you think of Suzie? Why do you think she stayed with Oskar for so long?
I believe because she loved Oscar despite his many flaws and he show he does love her in spite of being a lazy bum. She does leave him.
@@jrewing1512 Yes, I agree JR. It seems that her love for him and the positive qualities he had kept him in her life.
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You know you screwed up when even Arnold gives up on you, kiddo is so patient
Exactly. Arnold was so patient and optimistic but Oskar was just too much! 😔
@@DialUpDigest Even Arnold has his limits!
I’d love to see him lose his patience with big bob, that guy is such an insufferable, negligent blowhard! 😤😠😫
@@EB1493Yes
Their relationship reminds me of a quote I heard: "We stay with the people we think we deserve."
Thanks for sharing, I never heard that one before!
She deserves prince william
I remember a similar line from Perks of Being A Wallflower "we accept the love we feel we deserve"
She did end up leaving him. It was confirmed. I was so relieved to hear that! My mum was like Suzie for a long time. She left my bio dad when I was 2 months old after he left me alone for 2 hours to go to a bar with his buddies.
Oh no, that's terrible 😥 Glad to hear everything worked out for you and your family! 😊
Lol wtf 😂 who does that??! I don't blame her at all, I would too
@@salvation12 He was a real scumbag. We're no contact (thank God) because he still hasn't changed.
Omg
Can you send the link?
The moment Suzie struck a conversation with Helga's mom Miriam, THAT had me curious those years ago as a kid. They do have something in common in terms of being under-appreciated, married women. But at the same time, they knew something was missing in their lives too outside of their respective marriages.
I really liked that scene. You're right, they were both experiencing the same struggles with their husbands and had a lot in common. I liked seeing Miriam and Suzie be adventurous and go out of their comfort zones. The trip to the beach was much needed for them, and it was nice seeing them have some fun. I wish we saw more of Suzie and Miriam together.
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Susie's situation is pretty sad. All the manipulation, lies, and false promises from Oscar. Sure he learns a lesson after every episode, it's always one thing after another and Susie always falls for it.
And yes you're right, Susie and Miriam get along great. They could be best friends. Miriam is the way that she is b/c of the toxic home situation and is depressed. All she needs is to find constant hobbies to occupy herself and develop some self-esteem.
I like to imagine Susie and Miriam kept their friendship going and would meet up once in awhile 😊
@@DialUpDigest I will say this for bob, at least he has a job, unlike a deadbeat like oskar. Yah, they're both self-serving and hardly ever show any love & affection for their wives, but between oskar & bob, i'd say i have a higher opinion of bob.
I like to see what it'd be like if they switched husbands
Suzie divorcing Oskar in the Jungle Movie is one of the best moments in animation.
off screen
Oh that happened? Well good for her!
That happened in the movie? Now I must rewatch it
Good on her 😂
@@MichaelDouglas-fd7gn It happened off-screen at some point prior to the film.
Oskar: You keep the money
Suzie: What did you say?
Oskar: You keep the money?
Suzie: Oh Oskar, that's the most beautiful thing you ever said to me
🙌🙌🙌🙌 This was one of my favorite scenes in Hey Arnold! 😀
I can still hear his accent saying those words.
@@SiniBANG Suzie make me a sandwich
@@sunflowerfebreze691 e ehehehehehe :D
I won’t lie to you guys. I was specifically looking for that scene when I found this.
Susie and Oscar clearly had a green card marriage. Once Oscar got his green card she saw no reason to stay. I hope she found love again and will tell her children about her first husband as a cautionary tale.
I don’t think so, but she was very dependent on him for emotional validation, such as signs of damaged self worth, which ties into wanting to be the savior (Oskar is obviously damaged goods), and also possible family expectations and experiences. Susie seems to show signs of all these. Maybe she was getting older and hadn’t found anyone and her father was strict and misogynistic and Susie thought this is what “normal” was.
I hear that she left him in the end, though not sure if true, but I’m rooting for her! Oskar can rot.
Agreed on all those notes.
She never should’ve married that lazy ass from the beginning
@@Alusnovalotus I wonder why she left him instead of kicking him out again?
@@Alusnovalotus
Susie has been abused by parents her whole life and has no idea what love really is.
@joshuahecht6866
Where did you hear this?
She comes off as someone who was maybe bullied in school and had very few friends. And when she met Oscar, she relied on him as a companion.
You gotta feel bad for her as she constantly had to put up with a manchild of a husband.
I sure did. She worked so hard and all she heard were orders. I don't think we ever heard him say "thank you" to her. He was very rude! 😔
I don't. Oscar was a lazy & selfish @$$hole, but (unlike Suzie) he never committed domestic violence
@@ellandecampbell6279 yeah to be fair fights between them can be heard breaking out. Luckily he doesn't get too involved.
@@ellandecampbell6279 I don't either because she chose to put up with it she wasn't sentenced to be with him🤷🏽♀️
@@ellandecampbell6279 In actuality Suzy was the abuser in the situation. Since she's the one throwing things at him. Things that can easily brake and seriously hurt him.
As a kid, I just thought people were being mean to Oskar and now as an adult, I could see why practically no one could stand him as he wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of others if it was for his own gain. I also have this theory that Oskar may have grown up in extreme poverty in his country and may have used scamming/ manipulation to get by as he's shown to be illiterate until Arnold teaches him how to read .
I always thought he was hilarious but now as an adult, I can see how destructive he was. Good point, maybe Oskar's manipulative behavior is something he learned as a way to deal with his home environment. That would explain why he didn't see anything wrong with how he was acting, it was like he saw it as normal.
Wow! I did too think people were just being mean to Oskar, but now I see.
I always knew Oscar was lazy and selfish as a kid. And I always knew Suzie got fed up with him at times. But I didn’t realize how dark and toxic their marriage was. She clearly has low self-esteem to continue being married to someone like him.
I think they needed to be more mean! He ain't crap. He's a terrible man.
@amylee8969 I believe it's hinted that Suzie divorced Oskar in The Jungle movie and who can blame her?
Notice how she's absent from the Jungle Movie. She's not even mentioned. My guess is that she left Oscar under very hostile circumstances.
Craig Bartlett (the show's creator) said that it's because she left him
I think she left under hostile circumstances too. I wonder what it was that finally made her leave him. 🤔
Another question is why Phil and Gertie allow him to remain there. It’s a boarding house, not a homeless shelter. The tenants have to pay rent monthly to stay there. Where is he getting money for the rent?
@@thesamuraihobbit I thought it was strange too how after Suzie kicked him out, he just lurked around in Arnold's room. I guess they saw him like a family member and assumed the fight was just temporary so they let him stay? 🤷 lol
@@thesamuraihobbit remember he got a job as a paperboy
Hey Arnold was a surprisingly mature and deep cartoon
It really was! 👍
....It also had it's dark moments that many of us as adults can see/feel all too well.
She was voiced by "Mary Scheer" the same actress who played "Mrs. Benson" in "iCarly"
That's awesome! It's cool how some Nickelodeon voice actors got roles in different shows, even though sometimes it's hard to realize it unless you look it up, lol 👍
@@DialUpDigest IKR
Wow really? Idk that
Now that I know that, their voices do sound pretty similar!
Omg Freddy's mom!
Any episodes that show a positive change in Oskar was never brought up again. Him learning to read or become more independent. None of that stuck and he always reverted back to being a loser.
True. He showed how he had the potential to better himself but would always fall back on what was easy.
@Dial Up Digest Would you call this the rise and fall of Oskar?
@@ikennakonkwo5939 That sounds pretty good to me, Ikenna! Even though I tried to focus on Suzie in this video, I couldn't talk about her without also talking about Oskar. So much of her character revolved around him.
That makes sense, it hurts.
@@DialUpDigest Exactly 🙄
I do not blame poor Suzie one bit. A friend of mine had a girlfriend who was just like Oskar, she had a job but she was lazy and expected him to take care of her all the time. He paid the bills, did all of the chores, went to work, cooked, etc. Thankfully they broke up and he found a better girlfriend who he's marrying in a few weeks.
But you are right, Oskar was a toxic husband, no matter how many times Suzie wanted him to change, he didn't do it. I think that years ago, Suzie was naive and in love with Oskar and he needed an easy path to citizenship. But a few years later when the honeymoon phase ended it resulted in what we're seeing in the series. Of course, Suzie's character prevented her from filing for divorce because she still cared for him. However, I'm so glad Craig didn't sugarcoat their relationship, and eventually it was confirmed that by the Jungle movie she divorced him.
I'm glad your friend is in a better relationship now 👍
I agree, Suzie was naive and in love. I think Oskar took advantage of that and her kind and patient nature. Oskar knew he could get away with whatever he wanted to do because Suzie cared about him and wanted to be in a relationship with him. She kept letting things go, but of course, at one point enough was enough.
Honestly, I would only tolerate a girl like Oskar that living with me if she was living as my "pet" and all the rules I would have to with it.
@Yvan Yvienen You don't want to know. Probably better if I never said it.
Imagine if Susie made a sandwich like Oskar asked and threw it at him, that would’ve been funny.
😮 I'm surprised she didn't in the show. She was always very frustrated with him .
@@DialUpDigest probably don't have enough ingredients or don't want any
She would’ve have catch hands and the y couldn’t air that
Imagine if she did what she was told as women should 💯💯💯👌👌👌
@@rulasmania If we're being completely honest, Oskar is the type of guy that would throw 1 punch and lpse balance and ask Suzie to help him get up because he broke his back in the process 😂
“We named baby Oskar before we really knew your Oskar.” That was a funny quote.
I mean, Oscar was acting like an even bigger baby that the real “baby Oscar”.
Oscar and oskar
@@aztecakidgames3672 No wonder I got confused since they are both named the same thing and I would only tell them apart by how their names are spelled.
That line sticks out in my head and I never forgot it after all these years.
I honestly don't think that Oskar actually loves Suzie. I think that he only married her so she could support herself and Oskar.
If he did love her, I don't think we really saw examples where he showed it other than, "you keep da money". 😔
Yeah well you're wrong
I find it pretty satisfying that Sussie finally got the nerve to finally leave him. She deserved so much better. But I like to think maybe they keep in touch and she still has a good relationship with the Borders.
Agreed. She deserved much better than Oskar. I could see her keeping in touch with the boarders as well. She got along great with them, it was just Oskar who was causing her problems.
@@DialUpDigest Right, I can imagine her being sad about leaving the Boarding House, but it would of been for the best. I also like to think she and Miriam keep in touch and maybe Susie helped her get over her drinking problem.
Suzie represents a responsible mother figure to the children watching Hey Arnold. Kids know what it's like to be told to do chores around the house, help out, and for somebody else to be making all the money. Of course, you can't go around parenting your spouse. Such a relationship is doomed to fail.
I think Oscar was a King and suzie just dont realize his value. Hes a 10/10. What did she bring to the table? As a strong and independet man you should know your value
@@ReinersBlauerHodenplease tell me you’re joking
@@ReinersBlauerHoden He only pulled through when things were getting dire like Baby Oscar getting sick.
@@Neku628 you dont get the ironie
I think from a moral and religious standpoint is why she stayed with Oscar. She might have had beliefs of leaving your spouse outside infidelity is sinful which is why she supported him. He did tried to better himself and get a job here and there, but still he was not following religious protocol. He was a cheat, swindler, and slothful.
She committed domestic violence, which doesn't exactly follow moral & religious protocol either
That's a very good point. Religious and/or moral reasons for staying in a marriage even if you aren't always happy is very common. She maybe saw marriage as a scared institution where breaking it was only permissible on extreme grounds.
Suzie (and Didi Hill) were cautionary tales for me at a time when I was just introduced to Bridget Jones. This is what happens when you have lowered standards for partners and are desperate to get married. You get saddled with jerks who have so many demands for you.
Exactly. Always hold yourself highly and never settle. There's nothing worse than attracting those who think that you're desperate - people who just want to take advantage of your situation and don't care at all 😔
@@DialUpDigest Thanks for answering! 💝
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 You're welcome :)
Susie definitely. Didi Hill I think it just one of those strange relationships that kind of work. Didi wasn't desperate to get married and be married. She did genuinely love Cotton. She was a candy striper nurse which means she probably likes taking care of people. And even though he openly disrespects her, he does love her too. Didi also doesn't seem to let the verbal abuse get to her. Then again she may not be all there.
Oskar was the one character I did highly dislike in Hey Arnold. Even the episodes around him didn't make me sympathize with him.
I think Oskar had a lot of negative attributes that made it difficult to sympathize with him, even if he was in a bad situation. I think for many of us, unless you could see him from a different perspective or relate to him in some way, it would be hard to look past his faults and feel sorry for him sometimes.
My favorite was her throwing plates at him while Arnold caught them, and Oskar's only response was, "Oh GREAT, in this country I dodge furniture and in my home country I dodged the army!"
She is deserving of awards for the amount of patience she has for him
Committing domestic violence is showing patience?
Don’t blame her, Suzie deserves better then Oskar.
if i was the other way around you wouldn't care hypocrite
this show was so ahead of its time, typical drunk Russian man in NY
Hoe dare you! Hes a King! A 10/10....suzie should admire it otherwise its her loss
I think he’s Czech
I thought Oskar was from some other Eastern European country, not Russia.
She was one f the adults I liked. It was cute when she sympathized with Arnold when he had to do Oskar's Paper Boy job for him. It was nice to seem them interact.
Susie, Arnold’s grandparents, Ernie, and Mr Hyngh we’re all good people. Only Oscar was a jerk.
It was so cool for Susie and Miriam to bond together and have fun at 11:30.
I liked that moment too. It was a rare time where we saw Suzie talk to another woman. I like how they got along well, Suzie's always upset in the show 😢
They both have the same situation. They both have husbands who are self centered in different ways.
She ends up leaving Oscar by the time of The Jungle Movie. Good for hear.
Good for both of them 👍
@@DialUpDigest besides Susie is a beautiful lovely woman she could do a hell of a lot better than Oscar
You can believe that
her*
Agreed
4:51 The symbolism/subtext in that one wedding photo.
I can see why this show still has such a fervent fanbase/spot in people around my age's heart.
I love the subtext of Hey Arnold. It's such a detailed show for an animated cartoon for kids 👍
Yes that picture said it all 😩
I’m glad people still care about this show to this day. Suzie deserved better 😭
I’m hoping that one day this show gets rebooted.
I hope the show gets rebooted as well. Apparently the show's creator, Craig Bartlett had said if the Rugrats reboot is successful, there might be a chance for a season 6 of Hey Arnold, so there's hope! 👍
I guess you can call Susie’s husband, Oskar the real “Baby Oskar “.
😂 That's a good one! He was really like an adult baby 👶 lol
Oskar is the person i swore to myself to never become. Dude is litteral replica of my biological father AND biological mother.one of my biggest fear ,is to become just like him.
I think Oskar was a lesson for all of us of how you don't want your life to turn out - being unemployed, dependent on others, rude, lazy, deceitful, narcissistic...
Susie left Oscar after the first Hey Arnold movie? I don't blame her.
Haven't seen The Jungle Movie in a while but I remember not seeing Susie at all. Now I see what Craig Bartlett did. Clever move.
Yes, it was for the better 😊
@@DialUpDigest If they could continue the series, Oscar would be kicked out of the boarding house. If he doesn't pay his rent.
I must admit that I am surprised to learn that Suzie left Oscar after the events of Hey Arnold the movie. It was most definitely for the best for both Suzie and Oscar, but it's still a surprise considering how long Suzie stayed with Oscar. In the end, it was time for Suzie to move on and make a better life for herself. If Suzie left Oscar, then where's she living now?
Good question. I wonder where Suzie is now too. Maybe she moved back in with her mother or got her own place? I wonder how Oskar is paying rent as well, he didn't have a job. He must have had to finally get one or else he'd never be able to pay rent and stay at the boarding house.
@@DialUpDigest agreed.
I could also see Phil having Oskar do various tasks around the boardinghouse while giving him an ultimatum: you can either pay the rent in cash or you work it off, or you’re outta here!
Mr. Bailey, probably
"Oh, c'mon, I don't expect everyone to take care of me...just you" 😂😂😂💀
Fun fact, Suzie's Voice actor is Mary Scheer, also, Freddie Benson's mom.
As an adult, I assume Oskar was just packing a lot of salami and that's why Suzie got with him.
Of course, it wasn't enough to keep her because she's nowhere to be seen in the Jungle Movie.
I hate being a workaholic, which is why I feel terrible for Suzie. I think Suzie should have divorced a long time ago. If you ask me Oskar was clearly never the right person for Suzie to have a relationship with. I could never imagine being in a marriage with a spouse like Oskar.
Could you imagine being in a marriage with a spouse who commits domestic violence like Suzie?
No way I’d be scared!
I agree, Suzie was working a lot. She must have been stressed having so many responsibilities. It must have hurt her to see someone who she loved not recognizing she needed help and not stepping up to make her life a little easier.
You're right Ellande, domestic violence is never the answer. No matter how badly someone treats someone, throwing objects and making others afraid is not an appropriate response.
I love how Baby Oscar says, “Don’t go!” As he and his mom are leaving.
I like that part too, he was so cute 😊
“Will you make me a sandwich now?” The Amanda Show reference.
Hey Arnold creator confirmed that Suzie and Oskar got divorced.
Very clear narcissistic/codependent relationship
Susie was raised walking on eggshells and constantly neglected and insulted by her parents which made her desperate for love and led her to believe that this treatment was normal, and feel like she needed Oscar as well due to years of gaslighting, manipulation, and abuse that makes you doubt yourself. But she was very resilient with a very good heart. definitely also an empath.
Oscar was obviously a narcissist. But he seems to have a bit more empathy than they usually do. Just a bit. He WANTED to be good, but he really couldn’t. Usually that comes from more childhood abuse and fundamental beliefs of lack of control, and limitation. Their inner world is really dark so they have to steal their energy from others.
It’s a sad dynamic. I lived it for my whole life until recently
I've always wondered about Susie's parents and what they thought of Oskar. It's unfortunate we didn't see them on the show. But I think Susie likely did come from a home where such toxic behaviors were present. I don't know how someone could tolerate that kind of behavior unless they grew up in an environment where it was normalized. I think Susie was an empath too. She really wanted to see Oskar as his potential she thought he had, instead of seeing him for who he was.
I think Oskar was a narcissist too. His home life was probably problematic as well. It's sad, they both came from destructive homes and then came together and made a new one. 😔
Good to hear you're no longer living in that dynamic!
Would have been good if we saw Suzy's family the main family
That would have been awesome. I wonder if she had any siblings and what they thought of Oskar...and what Oskar thought of them! lol he wasn't that great at forming healthy relationships even outside his marriage with Suzy 😂
Hey Arnold really balances on the line from kid and adult show
is it weird that i like miriam a little more now then i used to as a kid
Me and my sister still say “you keep da money” whenever the opportunity arises lol.
Lol 😭
Suzie should have divorced Oskar a long time ago, but you got to feel for her because she was hard working to support him and she was always patient.
I agree. She was working a job to support both of them and had to take care of all the house chores by herself. Oskar acted like a child instead of a partner 🙁
@@DialUpDigest Yes and how she was able to meet him and agreed to marry him is sort of a mystery for me. Honestly no woman would marry a lazy man child like Oskar unless they couldn't take care of themselves.
I wonder how they met too. It would have been nice if they did a flashback to that day to see what happened.
In the Jungle Movie she did
I am writing about Hey Arnold show myself and I love your videos. You are capable of identify different sides of the relationships without falling into dehumanizing the characters.
I remember as a child I didn't like Oskar, but I didn't try to see the whole picture, i just hated him and I didn't pay very much attention to Suzie.
As an adult, it surprises me how realistic is this cartoon and how it wasn't afraid to show us real life people.
Not perfect families, not perfect marriages, not perfect female protagonist.
Just real people living the day to day.
Improving or quitting personal relationships according to their experiences, accepting that sometimes people are together for love but that doesn't mean that love is going always to be enough.
❤️
I like how they were not afraid to show children that life is not as easy and is different for each one of us.
Thank you for this awesome comment Daniels! 👍 Yes, I try my best to show how these characters are multidimensional and aside from their obvious characteristics 😊. I liked how this show wasn't afraid to show real life to children too. It was unique at the time, and even now, I can't think of any cartoon shows for kids that showed adult life as realistic as Hey Arnold! did. I respect the shows' writers for being so bold and unafraid to talk about issues adults faced like domestic violence because it is a very traumatic reality for kids who had to experience it. Exactly, personal relationships are confusing and difficult and everyone has their own way of navigating them. 🙌
Oskar is someone who needed a life coach desperately.
We will never understand what attached her to Oskar after all he has donde to ruin her live. The moment Oskar decided to leave the house and refused her money, I have to say I was feeling happy for her until she came out of the room and didn't leave him leave. :(
I agree Fabián, I guess we'll never know why she kept Oskar around so long and why she ultimately decided to leave (unless there's a season 6 and it is explained!). I was happy when Oskar refused to take the money too. It showed how he had grown. However, I think Miriam was a little too excited about it and should have let him leave. He probably would have had to come back after he spent all the money Suzie gave him anyway 🤔
My theory is that her father is probably a narcissist type and she must have to took big responsibilities since a very young age (being a parent for one or both of her parents). So this is why she is so attracted to him because he is a person who has the same traits that she is already familiar with and puts her in situation that she is already used to, especially if this person seems much alike to the first man of her life. I also suspect she probably has fear of abandonment caused by a traumatic event also in a very young age... so the ideia of being alone for her seems more scary than being a disfunction relationship for the rest of her life
Hes packin
nothing like dial up and some hot chocolate :)
Enjoy Cody! ☕ 😊
@@DialUpDigest always
Susie strikes me as a person who’d most likely been abused before she met Oskar. Not sure if it was by her parents or another partner, but she almost seems used to it in a way. That’s probably why she puts up with Oskar’s crap all the time and remains loyal to him no matter how badly he treats her. I feel like Susie almost feels sorry for Oskar in a way and kinda knows he’s always going to need somebody to take care of him. Therefore, she’s taken this responsibility and almost takes care of him as if he were her son instead of her husband. However, it has only enabled her to become a slave to not only Oskar but herself too. Very sad.
Suzie was precious. I seriously adore her.
"Why can't you do both at the same time?"
😂🤦♂️😂🤦♂️😂🤦♂️😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😭🤦♂️
Is this guy for real?
He was one-of-a-kind 😆
"You keep the money" has infinitily been inbedded in my brain.
I even remember when Oskar used to say "Suzie, I'm hungry, make me a sandwich!" with that goofy voice and accent of his.
This is what I love about Arnold, it shows us that the adults act like kids, and the actual kids have to solve so many of their problems. Much like real life. But Oscar being illiterate can show how this affects his capacity for emotional empathy. And he does sort of grow, for the most part. He tries to kick old habits, Arnold helps shape him into a (again, for the most part) better adult. And just like real life all these characters have their ups and downs. Him more than most, but this shows how much actual growth he needs. And god Bless Susie, she has so much resilience. It is realistic, but sad, the dynamics of their relationship. The cycle, all of it. Sometimes, we can do better but don't know it, like Susie. Or sometimes, we don't know how good our better half is, until we almost lose her, like Oscar.
Hilarious that she had better romance and chemistry with Miriam in 1 episode (Summer Girl) than with her own husband (same situation applies for Miriam).
also why is she pogging in the thumbnail
Suzie and Miriam had a lot in common! It was nice to see Suzie talk to someone other than Oskar for once 😊
In the series (pre jungle movie) Suzy is the very picture of patience and long suffering
“More soup my little green card?” Bro 😭
I have no idea how I missed that!
“Why should we fight when YOU know we’re going to make up?”
I feel like that’s Oscar telling Susie there’s no reason she should ever get mad at him since she’ll always come back to him
I don’t agree with Suzie resulting to domestic violence against Oscar but he shouldn’t have treated her like his mother. It was later confirmed by the creators that she did actually leave him and moved away.
Finally! Just what I have been waiting for.
😊 Hope you enjoyed it Devin! 👍
Poor Susie. She’s very beautiful. 🌟🌟🙂🙂🥰🥰
She was way too good for Oskar in so many ways 👍
@@DialUpDigest Right on 😎
1:20 I think she said Oskar hadn’t worked in 3 years. So basically they got married, he got laid off and then never got a job again.
That makes sense.
@@DialUpDigest my theory is when he got laid off, he got complacent being unemployed the more time passed and like you said before, she might have married him for his potential but after getting married he might have lost his spark and instead of her doing everything for him upon returning from work, she just got stuck with doing everything for him for nothing in return. At the same time, Oskar probably isn’t looking for work intentionally because he might think that because he has a home and a wife that does everything for him (in a sort of old world mentality), he already did everything he needed to do in life so he’s fine at whatever point of life he is while being too lazy to strive for more since he’s settling for less.
You keep the money best line ever
I think so too Sierra, it was a classic! :)
dude she's a keeper
Suzie is too good for Oskar he does not deserve some one like her. I love to see a back story on how they met nd got to where they are on the show.
I agree, Suzie was way too good for Oskar. I would have loved to see how they met as well. Actually, Suzie mentioned in the episode, "Family Man" when she was pretending to be Mr. Hyunh's wife, that Arnold introduced them. However, I don't know if that's true because he would have been 6 years old...lol 😅
@@DialUpDigest and Susie never did anything to Arnold lol
Oh yeah i forgot bout that episode.
Someone who commits domestic violence isn't too good for anyone
@@DialUpDigest In that episode, Mr. Hyunh's boss asked "How could your son introduce you to your husband?" That's not impossible. Mr. Hyunh could have said "I am Arnold's stepfather. He introduced his mother to me." Obviously your son couldn't have introduced you to his biological father, but he could introduce you to a man who becomes his stepfather.
Not going to lie. Me and my baby momma had a relationship like this. I was the bread winner all the time but after a few months I became OsKar. We decide to split after just 5 months. It is what it is.
Sometimes I see elements of myself in cartoon characters too that surprise me.
I think Sussie stayed with Oscar because she felt needed by him. She was extremely competent but at the same time she needs somebody to take care of in order to feel needed. Unfortenety, Oscar was the extreme of being a leech so drove Sussie to be angry
I agree, I think at least part of the reason why she stayed was because she liked the feeling of being needed by someone. But I think she maybe also felt bad for him because he couldn't take care of himself so she stayed out of pity.
Oskar wearing a tank top at 3:11 reminds me of Darwin from The Wild Thornberrys.
Oh ya, he does kind of look like him there, lol 😭
If my poverty theory isn't the case I think Oskar may have had narcisstic personality disorder as narcissists are very manipulative and capable of charming others hence why Suzie married him .But good for Suzie for possibly leaving Oskar
Another good theory! True, being manipulative is a trait of those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Oskar was definitely manipulative! That may also explain how he managed to get Suzie to marry him and stay with him for so long.
This is exactly the video I hoped would come up when I typed in "Suzy and Oscar kakoshka" 💜💜 GOD BLESS YOU DUDEEE
Glad you liked it!!
I think that maybe the reason why Susie stayed with Oscar for so long was maybe because she felt sorry for him and also because she was a fixer- someone who tries to repair the other person’s problems when in a relationship. There is a lot of evidence of Susie being a fixer through-out the show like whenever she couldn’t bare to see Oscar in discomfort or felt responsible for his mood swings and happiness. In addition to that Susie also would often suggest quick solutions to problems that they had which is another sign of being a fixer. In addition to their relationship, I also believe that Oscar might have an unspoken fear of failure as exampled in the episode where he first learned to read. What if the main reason of why he always tells Susie that he’ll get a job tomorrow is due to a fear of failure and self-esteem issues? It wouldn’t excuse his neglectful behavior, but it might give some insight as to the reason for his laziness. What could also be adding to this possible fear is the fact that with Susie is so responsible with their home-life and at her job. Maybe in seeing Susie being so responsible, made Oscar doubt himself. I’m not saying that I’m right, but it’s possible.
Awesome comment Megan! 🌟 I agree, Suzie did seem like the fixer type. Those are really good observations, Suzie was always looking to solve other people's problems. It made her very helpful, which is great, but it also made it easy for Oskar to take advantage of her. I've never thought of that, but that's a really plausible point - maybe Oskar had a fear of failure. Maybe that was why he was reluctant to get a job, he was scared of getting rejected and failing. Seeing Suzie be successful managing the home and hold down a job, maybe made Oskar doubt his abilities too.
@@DialUpDigest it’s possible.
@@DialUpDigestEver since the episode where Oskar finally learned how to read, I always got the strong feeling that maybe education wasn't a high priority in Oskar's childhood home-life. Mind you, that we are not given much about his childhood, but I don't think that Oskar came from a home that was all that supportive. And for all we know he could be lacking in other educational areas too.
Good point. For some, education is not a high priority. Maybe that's just the way he was raised.
That’s an interesting analysis, especially since this hits a little too close to home for me. I came from parents who valued education and accomplishments, sure, but down the line my father revealed his true nature - he was barely literate, unreasonable, and spent all our money on frivolous things, and that’s how he was raised to be. He was just like Oskar in a lot of ways, but he was also verbally abusive, which doesn’t strike me as an Oskar trait, but since they’re not the protagonists we can’t analyze one way or another about this. My mother was a lot like Susie, from her ambition to her frustration - and yes, she’s definitely a fixer. She stayed with my dad for 18 years despite cheating and verbal abuse “for the sake of the kids” but deep down she was just as spineless and insecure as my father, and took out her anger on me at first and then my sister (my only one - both of my other sisters are dead), which I’ve never quite forgiven her for. Not to mention that my mom was so depressed about her marriage falling apart that I had to take over with raising a kid who wasn’t mine, and that was a disaster. My mixed bipolar disorder was manifesting in a quick and rather violent way, and I’m still ashamed of it but also working on it every day. Finally, when my mom snapped out of her “pity me” phase she decided to separate us to see how it would go. It didn’t go well. My mom is so damaged by my dad that she still can’t look either of us in the eyes without being angry. She’s even said to my sister she wished the kid had never been born. My mom needs therapy but refuses to go because “therapy doesn’t work”.
Basically what I’m trying to say is, Susie would never have recovered from the trauma of Oskar if they’d had kids, so it’s a good thing that they didn’t even try. People like Susie are wonderful friends and they deserve better - and I really was happy for her that she finally left him. At least she had more guts than my mom did and realized that, as much as she loved Oskar, she would always be miserable with him. And she was smart enough not to have children with him - she’s smarter than my mom too, in a lot of ways. But that analysis of Oskar makes me feel sorry for him too - being from parents who celebrate accomplishments and dole out affection accordingly and not at any time I needed it, I never really felt secure within myself. My father also wanted me to be the perfect child, otherwise he would be abusive. I can relate to Oskar if his failures as a child resulted in his being abused by his parents, which is unfortunately common in countries like the former Czechoslovakia. I too have a crippling fear of failure, so I have a hard time with trying new things because of my fear of failure.
Anyhow, enough about my sad past. This was a really great analysis into Susie’s and Oskar’s characters and I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
10:34 Really! Because I thought it was after or during Hey Arnold the Jungle Movie when Susie and Oscar both decided to call it quits for their marriage.
Craig mentioned it during an "Ask Me Anything" on Reddit www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8935z1/this_is_craig_bartlett_animation_creator_of_ready/
I remember the Oskar can’t read episode. At first he had someone help him memorize the words of the book rather than learn to read them. But someone, I think it was Ernie, set a trap by giving him a different book and asking him to read it again.
“Suzie, you keep da money and go buy ingredients to make me a sandwich.”
“Oh Oskar, you’re such a sweet talker.”
I’m glad I have a job, a truck, clothes, money and most importantly a family that still loves me so whenever I feel bad about myself I remember that I’m not as big of a loser as Oskar
Yes, being grateful for what you have is important 👍. Oskar was an example of who not to be like.
Suzie is naive but insanely caring, hardworking, and forgiving. A case can be made for most people who are willing to try and do better or pull their weight even with faults, but Oskar is portrayed as being the most pathetic man-child bum I've seen in animation. Suzie is a saint for putting up with him for so long.
Susie needs Oskar because some people NEED to be NEEDED. My Mom is just like Susie, if no one needs her or depends on her then she will get depressed. Now I'm not saying Susie is spineless not one bit because she wears the pants in that relationship and it shows but some people don't feel fulfilment unless someone is so helpless and needs someone to rely on. But she does have a breaking point in the examples you've shown so she will put her foot down but when Oskar shows humility and empathy she's on cloud 9 again in their marriage.
Even when I was a kid I wanted Suzie to leave Oskar, she put up with his crap waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much lol
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I get battered wife syndrome vibes from Suzie. It's a possibility since Oscar is an alcoholic, who knows what kind of conflict went on early in their relationship. One thing that was sweet about their relationship is that they always talk out their squabbles.
I think she may have been suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome as well. You're right, at least there was one thing good about their relationship - they talked to each other.
Yeah, I think I saw an instagram post wishing a happy birthday to Freddie’s mom’s actress and I could not believe it when I saw she was the voice of Suzi in hey Arnold. At least that’s what I think I remember. Why didn’t I see this show when I was a little girl watching icarly at the same time?
Suzi's being in that relationship is a good example of the sunk cost fallacy.
That you put so much time, effort, money etc in to something (job, hobby relationships) that to give up is a waste.
That you've gone so far, why give up now.
It's something that allot of people experience in all forms of life.
But is especially applicable here
I love the fact that Suzi left him it was the best thing for her. As an kid I was hoping Oskar would change his ways and try to get an better paying job or at least help Suzi around the boarding house. (Something better then being a paperboy.)
But no such efforts were ever made on his part sadly. That would have been an equally sweet story to show Oskar actually leaving Suzi and start working on himself to be a better person the man she deserves. Meanwhile Suzi finding romance else where with man who fully appreciates her. They could have made a good story arc with it.
But as an adult I realize Suzi leaving is the best thing for Suzi. I'm glad she did leave him! I headcanon that she still talks with Miriam from time to time though.
Her loss
Not going to lie but I felt sorry for her I still don't know what she saw it in him from the beginning. If that's true they got a divorce I'm grateful for that she deserves someone so much better then this guy
Another thing. Now the 2 are divorced, I'm surprised Bob and Mirium haven't got a divorced yet. Then again, there was supposed to be character development in the Patakis. Too bad that spin off never happened.
Ikr!!
The fact they had a kid is very troubling to me. Deadbeat dad with a kid just gives me chills.
🤔 Did they? I know there was an episode where they took care of baby Oskar, but he was Suzie's nephew.
@@DialUpDigest then I was in the wrong and need to rewatch the show.
You know I used to watch hey Arnold and have to say one of my favorite characters bizarrely was Oscar Petoskey Susie was mistreated but I believe Susie loved Oscar and no to put up in this treatment because when you see that it's kind of crazy it shows you that even as a kid which Arnold had learned in most of the series with Oscar but you know great things come about this and I think Oscar was not only a learning character but he was a driving force behind the hey Arnold series
Interesting perspective. Oskar was a very flawed character, but I think that was a good thing because it gave him a lot of room to grow. It was nice seeing him learn to read, get a job, take care of a baby and appreciate Suzie more like when he told her to "keep da money". Susie put up with him, but he did show he had the capacity to change.
Suzie ditched oskar but knowing her she kept in touch with Arnold and the other boarders.
That sounds like Suzie to me. She got along well with the other boarders, they were like a family. Oskar was the only one who caused her problems 😅
@@DialUpDigest I can see from her interactions with Arnold that she cares about him like if he's her nephew or little cousin. And the other boarders are like true friends or siblings. Oskar is a nice guy and all but he needs to get himself together.
I always knew their relationship wasn't good as a kid.
being a stay at home dad is work too though
EDIT: sorry wrote this before watching most of the video.
Oskar became a cautionary tale for me as a child, to not be like him when I grow up.
Exactly. He was the perfect example of what not to be like in the future! 😬
@@DialUpDigest Yep. If I ever get married, no matter how mad I get, I would never treat my husband the same way Oskar treats Suzie.
Oscar ate a hell of pickles ....this reminds me of an episode of 90day fiance
I have heard about Suize divorced Oskar between the first hey arnold movie and the hey arnold jungle movie.
series creator Craig Bartlett in a Reddit AMA confirmed it.
I think Oscar did have a job BUT he quit after he trapped Suzie in his web. I mean, something attracted her to him.
Rumor has it Suzi is still waiting for Oscar to change
Damn smh Suzie is a strong character... I can sympathize 100%
She must've made some BOMB sandwiches 😅
Lol, if Oskar was always asking her for them, they must have been amazing. Maybe he figured he couldn't make it like she did so that's why he never bothered making his own 😆