Fair enough, but how many goals and assists is Zirkzee getting? :) None. Also, how many chances does the team create for Hojlund as a nr 9? Point is, neither of them are good enough. We need Osimhen, Gyokeres or someone in that mould.
@@Steven90108Runs "Also, how many chances does the team create for Hojlund as a nr 9" just stop it. This is not Real Madrid where Ronaldo can camp in the box and expect tap-ins. Football has changed and Hojlund needs to understand that. His bad first touch is what's making him useless in the final third. Also, he is so bad at positioning himself in the box.
Been saying this since he signed for 75M. We should have signed Ecan Fegurson. Hojlund's movement is poor, holdup play is poor, control is poor, positioning is poor. He is an ok finishet though
Exactly. Yamal is 17, plays every game and carries his team. When do you spend 70m on a prospect. Then what do we do while our fowards are on work experience?!
Yamal os not the norm, Yamal is like Messi or CR7.. you cannot "make" this kind of players. Its like asking every song writter why they dont have a Nobel Prize. Age is a factor. Gyokeres is 27 already and is one of the best strikers in the world, where was he at 21? And if the squad behind you is playing shite, how are you gonna score goals? If you think age or maturiy is not important then you necer played football. Salah at 21 was being sent from club to club because he "wasnt good enough" @@tomitylan
It's a perfect argument to use his age. Because it actually matters ALOT. Hojlund stats at 21: 24 Games, 7 Goals, 1 Assist. Gyokeres stats at 21: 28 Games, 7 Goals, 4 Assist. Lewandowski stats at 22: 43 Games, 9 Goals, 4 Assist. Kolo Muani stats at 21: 16 Games, 3 Goals, 5 Assist. Lautaro Martinez stats at 21: 35 Games, 9 Goals, 2 Assist. Alexander Isak stats at 21: 44 Games, 17 Goals, 2 Assist. Harry Kane stats at 21: 51 Games, 31 Goals, 5 Assist. Haaland stats at 21: 30 Games, 29 Goals, 8 Assist. Osimhen stats at 21: 38 Games, 18 Goals, 6 Assist. Im not saying Hojlund is the guy for United right now, but he might be in the future. And sometimes people need to have abit of patience, we don't have other number 9's. But look at the stats, not many 21 year old just bang in goals and play like a top striker. I still think we should buy a more experienced number 9, but give Hojlund time.
Hojlund is woeful and Zirkzee deserves to start now. I don’t know why Hojlund is so protected? We play better football as soon as he leaves the pitch. He spends more time on the ground and backing up against defenders than on the ball. If he has any qualities as a striker I certainly haven’t seen any.
I remember watching clips just before we signed him he looked really good had amazing burst of pace and strength to power past people was really hopeful he would kick on not happened yet but he might still develop but we need a ruthless killer up top
@@frankfortfcgoc mate ye need to watch a few Serie A games the pace is completely different then premier league he hasn't got premier league quality honestly he is horrible Zirkzee can get the ball out of akward positions especially with his size aswell hes very promising.
However, the balls up to him last night were absolutely shocking. Just lumped up to nowehere. Very few strikers in the world would have had a good game as Utd's number 9 last night.
A big body player like Hojlund gets easily bullied by defenders, can't hold up play, poor positioning, can't win a single aerial balls. He really needs to work on so many areas in his play.
Greenwood was 17years when he came in and on his first season playing handful of games scored 17goals. How can they say hojlund is young? This is the same excuse they made for rashford "he is young" now his 28years.
@@marouanefellaini707 That may be very true. But not every player is a prodigy. I feel like Hojlund could be a late bloomer(same as Gyokeres who's 27 and nobody really knew him before sporting), which is why I agree that we need a more experienced striker. The problem is also, our players don't know how to make sacrificial runs - teams that score create space for each other. We know he is capable because he's played games where he was man of the match, not just for the goal but his whole performance during the game. He just needs a confidence boost.
You people forget so fast he scored 16 last year so what are you on about. We need to be patient, we all know that the team is still trying to build itself up and remember and the burden of scoring is not for only hojullund it's the whole team the same way it takes the whole team to defend
I never undwrstood why Hojlund gets more leeway to adapt to the league in his second season while Zirkzee is not in his first season. Zirkzee was not ready made frome serie A either. He's only 23 in a dysfunctional team
I have the same issue with Hojlund. He isn't good enough. he looses his duals, can't hold it up, and slows it down too much. Then when we give him his chances he doesn't score. He's fine for a backup, but he can't lead the line in the Premier League by himself. Zirkzee showed last night he can at least do the basics and get us up the pitch a bit.
Højlund is rubbish. He’s a clumsy, can’t hold the ball up, can’t control it, has a terrible first touch. Positional sense is nonexistent, makes bad runs!
Anyone who rates Hojlund doesn’t know ball. You can’t say it’s because he is young because you can’t teach instinct it’s like trying to teach a defender that he should know to mark the unmarked striker in the box.
Ok why did peple get on Zirkzee n say he wasnt good enough n U all agreed with him having played half the games hojlund has played???its a little bias aint it???
Half the games? Hojlund has been at United for a full season longer than Zirkzee. I personally don't think either of them will ever be the answer, but Hojlund is absolutely not a starting number 9. He's way off the level, ability and experience required. £72m on "potential"? This sums up United's inept recruitment in a nutshell.
There must be consistency in criticsm for each player. Dont move the goal posts for each player. If age is defense then dont slaughter Jackson or Zirkzee. Dont defend one player and beat another with the same stick.
AMAD IS SAME AGE AS RAMUS AND LOOK AT HIM, RAMUS HAS GOTTEN TO MUCH PROTECTION. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE JUMPED ALL OVER ZIRKZEE WHO HAS LITERALLY JUST ARRIVED. USE THE SAME RULES FOR ALL PLAYERS OR ELSE IT LOOKS LIKE RACISM MATE.
It’s worth pointing out that Antony never asked Manchester United to shell out £90 million for him, which is totally unfair. I may not be a huge fan of Antony, but we really need to start talking about Hojlund. I think he’s got some solid finishing skills, but honestly, his performances can be pretty tough to watch, and it’s not just about him being young.
all this hojlund non-sense , the dude is leeds quality and they want him to be man utd quality when he cant win balls in the air , cant build up plays whatsoever , cant do a 5 meter pass and they still defending him , playing with hojlund or playing with 10 players is the same
Zirkzee is better in so many things holding the ball dribble positioning linking players scoring skill is at the same level maybe Rasmus is a bit better in speed and cardio, but that is not enough for him to start over Zirkzee
I blame whoever sanctioned his £70+ million transfer....united paid more for him than Liverpool did for salad, than city did for Haaland, than newcastle did for isak.......he doesn't look like he l ever justify that stupidly high price tag someone at united was willing to pay for him.........
LETS BE REAL, RAMUS HAS BEEN THERE 2 SEASON'S AND DONE NOTHING, HE IS A WHITE. BEARDSLEY SAID HE WORKS HARD.,WHAT!!! ZIRKZEE, HAS BEEN HERE LITERALLY A FEW MONTHS AND WE WANT HIM OUT, HE IS A YOUNG BLACK BOY. DIFFERENT RULES. 70 MILLION, WASTE, HE GETS AWAY WITH BEING SHITE.
cundy so disingenuous he is 72m striker?? Even if he’s young he’s shown nothing to justify he’s even worth half that and that’s without even scoring goals😂😂
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It always amuses me when I hear the sentence 'He's too young to lead the line.' How old was Wayne Rooney when he was leading the line for United?
You sure the guy calling has any idea about what he is talking about? The Portuguese league is constantly generating coaches and players that, to say the least, have done well in the Premier League. His current coach has, while in charge of a "glorified Scottish league" team, hammered City this year and sent Arsenal packing last year. Talking about ignorance....
Rasmus needs to make more intelligent runs so he doesn’t have to wrestle defenders and have the confidence to take defenders 1v1 when he’s facing them. He’s actually a really decent finisher but he struggles to get into good positions to be taking 5 or 6 shots per game. He’ll come right under this manager I believe
Hojlund is just a sign of the times at United (and probably football as a whole). Would never have even made it past the academy level years ago, but nowadays an inept recruitment department are gambling £70m for kid who scored a handful of goals in Italy, and clearly just isn't anywhere near the level to lead the line for United. This is why United are in a mess... Don't have a reliable striker to convert chances and made so many awful signings on high wages they're deep in the red. Zirkzee is just a more talented player, and in the absence of any better options, he needs to be starting every game. No doubt the club are pressuring Amorim to play Hojlund to try and protect his market value prior to a sale...
Zlatan often comes down to receive the ball, pass to someone and runs up again. Hojlund waits for ball. Backs into defenders. Often too near defenders for anyone to pass to him.
United is in a mess in real time. I don't understand this narrative that we should persist with a player just because they are young. Why buy a young player for huge sums only to not expect him to perform ryt away while the club needs to perform immediately? I don't get it, we are way down the table yet we pardon players becoz they are young. We need to improve but how will we improve when we pardon bad players becoz they young coz we will do this even in the future it's a cycle there will always be a young player that is not performing that we will have to pardon. It's stupid and unsustainable. If they play then they should be held to the same standards as everybody else
Agree Højlund not good enough as a starting 9, dnt think hell ever be to be honest. But some of the problems is not enough passes to him, but again his movement isnt good either.
Hojlund is never in the box when the ball is in the opposition box. He doesn't have a good positioning, does not go in for crosses, can't hold up the ball. And whenever he gets the ball he misses one on one with the keeper. I remember Liverpool game hojlund got the exact same opportunity as martinez. And Martinez scores ffs. Martinez is a defender and has better finishing than hojlund.
It's funny, Arsenal's forward players get slaughtered each week for not getting into the box to meet crosses etc and yet the constant excuse for Hojlund is "he never gets any service". Strikers are supposed to create space for themselves. I honestly think we'd be better with Gyokeres at this stage. No PL club is going to sell us a decent striker unless it's for ridiculous money.
How can a striker be in the box when all other players do is pass back and slow transition. The team is currently no set up to attack and be in possession. Halland struggles when no one give him a chance. The first concern for the team is to get rid of players that are never available, for some reasons they never show up to be fit enough. This reduces squad depth, if there are many options, players won’t be leggy
When Zirkzee plays badly we never hear any excuses to defend him but we hear every excuse under the sun for hojlund. Let's face it he's nowhere near good enough and for the bloke on the left let me explain to you how important it is to hold the ball up in an Amorim system it's absolutely CRUCIAL.
Manchester United has been woeful when it came to recruitment for ten years plus now,75 million pounds for a 19 years old striker. Are you guys nuts when the lack of goals was the reason why they needed a striker.
glorifyed scottish league when porto sporting benfica are consistently better in europe than man united last 10 years and most off epl teams,excluding top 2/3 teams
This caller has close to zero football intelligence, the Portuguese league has produced more star players and coaches for Premier League clubs than any other league in Europe over the last 8 to 10 years..
Battling relegation? I don't think so. We're ten points ahead and those teams at the bottom aren't going to be getting enough points before the end. Spurs on the other hand...now there's a more likely candidate.
@@barrybutter6906 You got out played in the first half absolutely awful coaching and style it was that embarrassing I couldn't believe my eyes how easy it was.Very lucky ,ten minutes away from a meltdown again.
Hojlund knows how to finish. In fact he had one of the highest conversion per chance created (XG) In Europe last season. He has pace and strength. His problem is positioning and the fact that he fights defenders a lot. If he can fix that, then he'll be up there among the best
Bad in the air, can’t press, can’t finish, can’t make runs, can’t get in good positions, can’t pass, can’t hold the ball, isn’t fast, terrible balance, no strength
There's a lot of factors contributing to his game. His main game isn't hold-up play. Haaland isn't that good at hold-up either. Hojlund is an in the box striker, put the ball in the box across the face of the goal. His confidence is low. Also Amorim has two different roles for Zirkzee and Hojlund. Zirkz is asked to come deep and create play, Hojlund is asked to stay high and and make runs in behind. Our players don't know how to feed balls in behind. When you look at Hojlund's runs, he creates space for others to score but the other teammates don't create space for him. When he's stuck in between defenders, our attackers don't draw them away - Hojlund thrives in space. Nobody makes sacrificial runs, cause they all wanna score themselves.
@ He is terrible at the moment but he's not the worst. Don't be disingenuous to say he's horrible. I've seen him making countless of good runs and our players don't look up.The whole team is still learning the system and they're only now learning how to use a proper no 9. ANd for Hojlund to come into such a dysfunctional team and be asked to score 25-30 goals, at 21, all while learning a new system, is wild. He was good at Atalanta because they knew his game and when to play the ball and when not to.
Is not his fault? it is his faulty and others too. Each player has to take responsibility including Hojlund. Their getting paid millions of pounds. Age is not factor! Lamine Yamal is 17 and doing his job. We have to agree that the team is not perfoming, so it will affect Hojlund. Look at City, the team is not perfoming well and Halaand is not scoring for fun as he did last season. We cant judge Hojlund now. When team perfoms well, then we can judge him. But I still retaliate my point he has a part to be blamed as part of a team which is not perfoming well.
I think the way United play doesn’t suit Hojlund’s strengths, as he often has to come deep to get the ball and doesn’t get many touches around the box, as the Athletic have shown with their heat maps. He would probably score more goals if he was at other Premier League teams. That said, he needs to improve his hold up and aerial play, as he gets pushed off the ball too often.
That he doesn't run channels is something we talked about since he came. Was same with Martial. Never made room for other players or popping up as a passing point alternative. There is hope for Højlund, but he has a lot to improve.
Rudd had 5 years at utd and when they finally sorted his knee injury out he netted 150 goals not sure of his age when he joined utd, but a deadly centre forward just watch everyone of his goals utd haven’t had anyone like that since
The grace & excuses Hojlund is afforded is ridiculous. Even if he isn't scoring goals, the ability to receive, hold up and keep the ball is the bear minimum. It's not his fault but he looks like he still needs to learn his trade at a much lower level. Movement isn't great too hence running into defenders instead of away from them🤷🏻
This guy Chris is a joker. Amorim is making a massive difference. Goals against are set peices needs work on the training pitch. Lots of positives just now. We are not losing games the team spirit is happening the team is fighting for 90 mins and more. Players are gaining confidence. This coach is a brilliant let him get on with it. The league position will be what it will be at the end of the season. If we had stuck with ETH we would be miles off. Amorim has only had 2 months FFS
What Assmuss Hoijlund lacks: first touch, hold up play, creating space for himself, reading what teammates are going to do, passing skills, movement, can’t finish. He’s not a United number 9.
Isaak Palmer cost same or less than ramus it's about club and managers buying quality players ramus is not at elite level even age on his side don't see him getting better
The two big differences between the two from last night. Hojlund cannot play with his back to goal and thus cannot hold up play allowing his team to get forward, and his not strong to protect the ball when he tries. Zirkzee did both these things last night and it changed the game for Utd. it gave them a focal point to get forward.
hojlund is the kind of striker that attack an area off the ball .. which is usually quite dependent on the good pass by others. He needs a partner like the classical striker. Where as Zirkzee is a more complete striker that can hold the ball, get involved in the build up, like Berbatov, but he need to polish the ball handling more , strength, finishing. These two still have their homework to do well in EPL. Physical aspect on the Premier League is crazy.
This is the dumbest take I’ve EVER heard from a caller in my life. The Portuguese league is the 5th best league in the world. If not what league is. I’ll wait.
Utd might look good on paper with the score line 3-1, but their actual performances tell a different story. That game against Soton really show how much better Soton were on the day, despite all of United's resources. Stats and predictions mean nothing if the team lacks cohesion, has poor tactics, or underestimates opponents. Matches like that just expose the cracks!
How long does it take a striker to learn? Because this bias about him being young is pointless the guy can’t play he runs? Ofcourse everyone runs but he is not good enough let’s face the facts he won’t be good 2 seasons down the drain
Our manager definitely has a lot to answer for. He picks thr wrong team consistently... then has to change it. A lot of our problems is due to his selection
Last 3 games, Zirkzee has come on in place of Rasmus as the 9, and played really good. He is a 9 obviously as thats the substitution he comes on for, he is just a 9 that drops deeper to get involved in the play and link up the play and find people and its obviously working for the team
Caller is a clown. It’s not difficult to understand sometimes you take a backwards step to take 3 steps forward. Amorim is going to turn it around and I’m not a United fan
Can't believe the amount of excuses I've seen made for this kid since he's come. "He's come to a Club in turmoil", "He's far too young to be the main Striker at the Club", "He has potential!", "He doesn't get Service from Garnacho and Antony".......The guy is absolute garbage. Can't believe the amount of stick Rashford and Zirkzee have been getting of late and yet nothing but excuses made for this Danish Pastry. He's far worse than Rashford and Zirkzee. Anybody with an ounce of footballing knowledge can see this. He needs to leave this Month if not next Month. He's never going to be good enough and yet we see Omar Marmoush go across the City whilst United try and hope to get a tune out of this waste of space who is clearly not good enough to play at this level and never will be. Only absolute clowns who know nothing about football use his age as an excuse. He's never going to be good enough.
Hojlund has a lot of areas to improve, but he has one of the best convertion rates in the league, he has hardly any chances created for him like all our strikers the past decade
Only reason why hojj gets nod over zirks is because hojj looks the part,but that's as far as it goes with him..amo should put hojj on the back burner and concentrate on zirks as there is a very useful player in there.
Saying Hojland isn’t clinical enough…he has the best shot to goal conversion rate in the premier league. Most goals from shots, it’s clear he doesn’t get the service
Stat Bunnies Like you are why our club will continue to be Mediocre. He’s rubbish, doesn’t know where to run to get the ball played to him… early in the game Bruno was driving forward and instead of sprinting on the inside of the CB he keeps drifting on the outside… Basic footballing senses he does not possess
Spain won the World Cup with Morata who isnt a fantastic striker to begin with and young yamal carried the team. No one is giving excuses that he is a young player carrying the team. It all boils down to quality of the player, regardless of age.
@@gazagovana3291 That's just not true. He is one of the fastest players in the League. Not saying he is good or anything, but his pace is LITERALLY one of his best traits. Look at his games at Atalanta and tell me he don't have pace.
The guy rings in says Rasmus ain’t good enough and he missed chances against Liverpool, did that guy not see Rasmus laid a goal on a plate for Garnacho who missed then Antony missed an absolute sitter, let’s be fair !!
We've seen many experiments with this Manchester United side. One experiment hits me as a curious thought. How would Hojlund perform in tandem with Zirkzee? Simply saying Zirkzee is better is not enough I don't think. Better at hold up? Yes, it seems. But scoring? I'm not so sure. And I wonder if Hojlund would be much better feeding off Zirkzee. He has, after all, at certain points, shown himself to be consistent.
We need a proper striker. Hojlund would be alright for back up and to come into games and develop. Zirkzee is more of utility tool who can play a couple positions but he needs time as well.
I want to like Hojlund, but I’m starting to struggle. I still think he should be given time, but he cannot be our main 9. We need a consistent goalscorer up front.
It's about damn time someone called Rasmus out for his poor ability
And stop booing Zirkzee
Fair enough, but how many goals and assists is Zirkzee getting? :) None. Also, how many chances does the team create for Hojlund as a nr 9? Point is, neither of them are good enough. We need Osimhen, Gyokeres or someone in that mould.
He gets zero service
@@Steven90108Runs "Also, how many chances does the team create for Hojlund as a nr 9" just stop it. This is not Real Madrid where Ronaldo can camp in the box and expect tap-ins. Football has changed and Hojlund needs to understand that. His bad first touch is what's making him useless in the final third. Also, he is so bad at positioning himself in the box.
Diddy would love Rasmus. He loves giving up his back for free to defenders
At least some of our fans are seeing how useless hojlund is. I called it after a few games i knew he isnt the guy. For 75mil his a waste.
Been saying this since he signed for 75M. We should have signed Ecan Fegurson. Hojlund's movement is poor, holdup play is poor, control is poor, positioning is poor. He is an ok finishet though
I'm sorry but him being 21 yrs old is not an excuse. Why can't an experienced 21 yr old lead the line? Stop making excuses for Højlund; he's shite!
Exactly. Yamal is 17, plays every game and carries his team. When do you spend 70m on a prospect. Then what do we do while our fowards are on work experience?!
Yamal os not the norm, Yamal is like Messi or CR7.. you cannot "make" this kind of players. Its like asking every song writter why they dont have a Nobel Prize.
Age is a factor. Gyokeres is 27 already and is one of the best strikers in the world, where was he at 21? And if the squad behind you is playing shite, how are you gonna score goals?
If you think age or maturiy is not important then you necer played football. Salah at 21 was being sent from club to club because he "wasnt good enough" @@tomitylan
It's a perfect argument to use his age. Because it actually matters ALOT.
Hojlund stats at 21: 24 Games, 7 Goals, 1 Assist.
Gyokeres stats at 21: 28 Games, 7 Goals, 4 Assist.
Lewandowski stats at 22: 43 Games, 9 Goals, 4 Assist.
Kolo Muani stats at 21: 16 Games, 3 Goals, 5 Assist.
Lautaro Martinez stats at 21: 35 Games, 9 Goals, 2 Assist.
Alexander Isak stats at 21: 44 Games, 17 Goals, 2 Assist.
Harry Kane stats at 21: 51 Games, 31 Goals, 5 Assist.
Haaland stats at 21: 30 Games, 29 Goals, 8 Assist.
Osimhen stats at 21: 38 Games, 18 Goals, 6 Assist.
Im not saying Hojlund is the guy for United right now, but he might be in the future. And sometimes people need to have abit of patience, we don't have other number 9's.
But look at the stats, not many 21 year old just bang in goals and play like a top striker. I still think we should buy a more experienced number 9, but give Hojlund time.
Hojlund is woeful and Zirkzee deserves to start now. I don’t know why Hojlund is so protected? We play better football as soon as he leaves the pitch. He spends more time on the ground and backing up against defenders than on the ball. If he has any qualities as a striker I certainly haven’t seen any.
I remember watching clips just before we signed him he looked really good had amazing burst of pace and strength to power past people was really hopeful he would kick on not happened yet but he might still develop but we need a ruthless killer up top
Both of them would play better alongside a Harry Kane-old-style striker
@@frankfortfcgoc mate ye need to watch a few Serie A games the pace is completely different then premier league he hasn't got premier league quality honestly he is horrible Zirkzee can get the ball out of akward positions especially with his size aswell hes very promising.
He's protected because he did an interview with the chalice of toxicity - Mark Goldbridge.
However, the balls up to him last night were absolutely shocking. Just lumped up to nowehere. Very few strikers in the world would have had a good game as Utd's number 9 last night.
Zerkzee isnt much older than Hojland and hes been getting slaughtered week in, week out!
Exactly....
It's only because he hasn't got blistering speed.
@@Inmyownleaguehe is a more intelligent player
Hojlund has blonde hair and blue eyes. Same way Rashford getting crucified ain’t nothing new here
Zirkzee had an afro
A big body player like Hojlund gets easily bullied by defenders, can't hold up play, poor positioning, can't win a single aerial balls. He really needs to work on so many areas in his play.
Chris is right! Zirkzee is better than Hoijlund.
hojlund is older than bellingham, there's a reason people continuously bring up hojlund's age, it's because he's shite
Greenwood was 17years when he came in and on his first season playing handful of games scored 17goals. How can they say hojlund is young? This is the same excuse they made for rashford "he is young" now his 28years.
He had world-class layers with him. Even played with Ronaldo.
@@g-dough Greenwood is more talented than hojlund watch the games closely
@@marouanefellaini707 That may be very true. But not every player is a prodigy. I feel like Hojlund could be a late bloomer(same as Gyokeres who's 27 and nobody really knew him before sporting), which is why I agree that we need a more experienced striker. The problem is also, our players don't know how to make sacrificial runs - teams that score create space for each other. We know he is capable because he's played games where he was man of the match, not just for the goal but his whole performance during the game. He just needs a confidence boost.
Exactly.
You people forget so fast he scored 16 last year so what are you on about. We need to be patient, we all know that the team is still trying to build itself up and remember and the burden of scoring is not for only hojullund it's the whole team the same way it takes the whole team to defend
As a villa fan. I really like Zirkzee. I think he's a great player in the making
I never undwrstood why Hojlund gets more leeway to adapt to the league in his second season while Zirkzee is not in his first season. Zirkzee was not ready made frome serie A either. He's only 23 in a dysfunctional team
I have the same issue with Hojlund. He isn't good enough. he looses his duals, can't hold it up, and slows it down too much. Then when we give him his chances he doesn't score. He's fine for a backup, but he can't lead the line in the Premier League by himself. Zirkzee showed last night he can at least do the basics and get us up the pitch a bit.
I agree Hojlund is not as good as zirkzee. He doesn't come to the ball and his distribution is at best average.
Hojland young and learning...learn somewhere else...
EXACTLY
It's not his fault the club bought him and had no senior striker to help him
He wouldn’t even start for Southampton
Højlund is rubbish. He’s a clumsy, can’t hold the ball up, can’t control it, has a terrible first touch. Positional sense is nonexistent, makes bad runs!
Anyone who rates Hojlund doesn’t know ball. You can’t say it’s because he is young because you can’t teach instinct it’s like trying to teach a defender that he should know to mark the unmarked striker in the box.
Facts! Age doesn’t matter in football if your good enough your old enough to start. Look at Yamal
Ok why did peple get on Zirkzee n say he wasnt good enough n U all agreed with him having played half the games hojlund has played???its a little bias aint it???
Half the games? Hojlund has been at United for a full season longer than Zirkzee. I personally don't think either of them will ever be the answer, but Hojlund is absolutely not a starting number 9. He's way off the level, ability and experience required. £72m on "potential"? This sums up United's inept recruitment in a nutshell.
Hojlund has blonde hair and blue eyes
Hojlund is so poor he can't control the ball he falls over all the time and he has definitely not got a strikers instinct.
Holjlund costing more than Isak is hilarious. Hes absolutely useless 😂
Best striker in the league easily
Hojlund is everton player at best
Nah Everton has a better striker than him
@@thedreamer3454who?
There must be consistency in criticsm for each player. Dont move the goal posts for each player. If age is defense then dont slaughter Jackson or Zirkzee. Dont defend one player and beat another with the same stick.
AMAD IS SAME AGE AS RAMUS AND LOOK AT HIM, RAMUS HAS GOTTEN TO MUCH PROTECTION. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE JUMPED ALL OVER ZIRKZEE WHO HAS LITERALLY JUST ARRIVED. USE THE SAME RULES FOR ALL PLAYERS OR ELSE IT LOOKS LIKE RACISM MATE.
It’s worth pointing out that Antony never asked Manchester United to shell out £90 million for him, which is totally unfair. I may not be a huge fan of Antony, but we really need to start talking about Hojlund. I think he’s got some solid finishing skills, but honestly, his performances can be pretty tough to watch, and it’s not just about him being young.
Coming to a new league ....he has been there for a year and a half
Hojlund should be sold asap, awful player
Facts hojlund is garbage
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all this hojlund non-sense , the dude is leeds quality and they want him to be man utd quality when he cant win balls in the air , cant build up plays whatsoever , cant do a 5 meter pass and they still defending him , playing with hojlund or playing with 10 players is the same
Zirkzee is better in so many things
holding the ball
dribble
positioning
linking players
scoring skill is at the same level
maybe Rasmus is a bit better in speed and cardio, but that is not enough for him to start over Zirkzee
I don't understand why people keep using Ramus' age as an excuse. A top young player can play far better than he is. He is just not good enough.
I blame whoever sanctioned his £70+ million transfer....united paid more for him than Liverpool did for salad, than city did for Haaland, than newcastle did for isak.......he doesn't look like he l ever justify that stupidly high price tag someone at united was willing to pay for him.........
LETS BE REAL, RAMUS HAS BEEN THERE 2 SEASON'S AND DONE NOTHING, HE IS A WHITE. BEARDSLEY SAID HE WORKS HARD.,WHAT!!! ZIRKZEE, HAS BEEN HERE LITERALLY A FEW MONTHS AND WE WANT HIM OUT, HE IS A YOUNG BLACK BOY. DIFFERENT RULES. 70 MILLION, WASTE, HE GETS AWAY WITH BEING SHITE.
cundy so disingenuous he is 72m striker?? Even if he’s young he’s shown nothing to justify he’s even worth half that and that’s without even scoring goals😂😂
It always amuses me when I hear the sentence 'He's too young to lead the line.' How old was Wayne Rooney when he was leading the line for United?
And how many players had Rooney talent at that age?
I'm not saying age is an excuse,but using Rooney as an example is too much.
@@adenihunadewale9214If you're good enough you're old enough it's as simple as that.Alex Ferguson's class of 92 is a prime example.
@@adenihunadewale9214 How about Alan Shearer at Southampton then?
@@chrisdee1583 holljhund could end up a late bloomer
@@adenihunadewale9214 I highly doubt it mate he's shocking.
Talksport: we want negativity so lets screen the callers for that
They're right about Hojulnd though he is dogshit
@johnhopkinson7573 ok kid
Spot on, scripted cynicism such a cowards way to live
You sure the guy calling has any idea about what he is talking about? The Portuguese league is constantly generating coaches and players that, to say the least, have done well in the Premier League. His current coach has, while in charge of a "glorified Scottish league" team, hammered City this year and sent Arsenal packing last year. Talking about ignorance....
All the premier leagues stars are like 33% all from the Portuguese league
Rasmus needs to make more intelligent runs so he doesn’t have to wrestle defenders and have the confidence to take defenders 1v1 when he’s facing them. He’s actually a really decent finisher but he struggles to get into good positions to be taking 5 or 6 shots per game. He’ll come right under this manager I believe
72m for a number 2 striker is a disgrace es as we have no number 1
He isn't even a number 2 striker if we are being honest. He wouldn't make it at any team in the league. I can't think of a team with a worse striker
Thanks to ten haag, don't forget mount, Anthony
Onana is number 1
You pay for potential 👍
@JV431 he wasn't potential tho.... This man has absolutely no stand out attributes at all. So them to pay 72mill is criminal
Hojlund is just a sign of the times at United (and probably football as a whole). Would never have even made it past the academy level years ago, but nowadays an inept recruitment department are gambling £70m for kid who scored a handful of goals in Italy, and clearly just isn't anywhere near the level to lead the line for United. This is why United are in a mess... Don't have a reliable striker to convert chances and made so many awful signings on high wages they're deep in the red.
Zirkzee is just a more talented player, and in the absence of any better options, he needs to be starting every game. No doubt the club are pressuring Amorim to play Hojlund to try and protect his market value prior to a sale...
Zlatan often comes down to receive the ball, pass to someone and runs up again. Hojlund waits for ball. Backs into defenders. Often too near defenders for anyone to pass to him.
United is in a mess in real time. I don't understand this narrative that we should persist with a player just because they are young. Why buy a young player for huge sums only to not expect him to perform ryt away while the club needs to perform immediately? I don't get it, we are way down the table yet we pardon players becoz they are young. We need to improve but how will we improve when we pardon bad players becoz they young coz we will do this even in the future it's a cycle there will always be a young player that is not performing that we will have to pardon. It's stupid and unsustainable. If they play then they should be held to the same standards as everybody else
Agree Højlund not good enough as a starting 9, dnt think hell ever be to be honest.
But some of the problems is not enough passes to him, but again his movement isnt good either.
Hojlund is never in the box when the ball is in the opposition box. He doesn't have a good positioning, does not go in for crosses, can't hold up the ball.
And whenever he gets the ball he misses one on one with the keeper.
I remember Liverpool game hojlund got the exact same opportunity as martinez. And Martinez scores ffs. Martinez is a defender and has better finishing than hojlund.
His runs are awful as well. He’s way too predictable, never bends them or run diagonally just straight ahead.
It's funny, Arsenal's forward players get slaughtered each week for not getting into the box to meet crosses etc and yet the constant excuse for Hojlund is "he never gets any service". Strikers are supposed to create space for themselves. I honestly think we'd be better with Gyokeres at this stage. No PL club is going to sell us a decent striker unless it's for ridiculous money.
How can a striker be in the box when all other players do is pass back and slow transition. The team is currently no set up to attack and be in possession. Halland struggles when no one give him a chance.
The first concern for the team is to get rid of players that are never available, for some reasons they never show up to be fit enough. This reduces squad depth, if there are many options, players won’t be leggy
When Zirkzee plays badly we never hear any excuses to defend him but we hear every excuse under the sun for hojlund. Let's face it he's nowhere near good enough and for the bloke on the left let me explain to you how important it is to hold the ball up in an Amorim system it's absolutely CRUCIAL.
Zirkzee does not fit the profile apparently so he gets booed
Manchester United has been woeful when it came to recruitment for ten years plus now,75 million pounds for a 19 years old striker. Are you guys nuts when the lack of goals was the reason why they needed a striker.
glorifyed scottish league when porto sporting benfica are consistently better in europe than man united last 10 years and most off epl teams,excluding top 2/3 teams
His movement can't be that good if he's always fighting with defenders.
This caller has close to zero football intelligence, the Portuguese league has produced more star players and coaches for Premier League clubs than any other league in Europe over the last 8 to 10 years..
Hell just at United where would we be without Sporting in particular. We have truly braindead fans
@@mercurialblondeUnited are battling relegation ffs how has Sporting benefited them? 😂
@@chrisdee1583they are not battling it
Battling relegation? I don't think so. We're ten points ahead and those teams at the bottom aren't going to be getting enough points before the end. Spurs on the other hand...now there's a more likely candidate.
@@barrybutter6906 You got out played in the first half absolutely awful coaching and style it was that embarrassing I couldn't believe my eyes how easy it was.Very lucky ,ten minutes away from a meltdown again.
Yes, hoisland is young but he has no skill, no touch, no game intelligence and no shot.
Hojlund knows how to finish. In fact he had one of the highest conversion per chance created (XG) In Europe last season. He has pace and strength.
His problem is positioning and the fact that he fights defenders a lot. If he can fix that, then he'll be up there among the best
Lol
Bad in the air, can’t press, can’t finish, can’t make runs, can’t get in good positions, can’t pass, can’t hold the ball, isn’t fast, terrible balance, no strength
@pharmphresh such a bad take!!! Are you head of recruitment at United?
@lovejoy3347 nah I'm not.
Just a fan from far across the world
Højlund should go on loan to Dortmund, not Rashford. Rashford has to go to Barcelona. Evan Ferguson should be brought in if we can get cheap.
There's a lot of factors contributing to his game. His main game isn't hold-up play. Haaland isn't that good at hold-up either. Hojlund is an in the box striker, put the ball in the box across the face of the goal. His confidence is low. Also Amorim has two different roles for Zirkzee and Hojlund. Zirkz is asked to come deep and create play, Hojlund is asked to stay high and and make runs in behind. Our players don't know how to feed balls in behind. When you look at Hojlund's runs, he creates space for others to score but the other teammates don't create space for him. When he's stuck in between defenders, our attackers don't draw them away - Hojlund thrives in space. Nobody makes sacrificial runs, cause they all wanna score themselves.
He would have made a great successor to Ruud van Nistelroy but his team mates are set upon undermining Rasmus
Fernandes was whipping balls in previous games and Hojlund was absolutely nowhere,no anticipation or intelligence he looks a real donkey.
He has been missing those chances too and he doesn't even get in positions in the box. He is horrible
@ He is terrible at the moment but he's not the worst. Don't be disingenuous to say he's horrible. I've seen him making countless of good runs and our players don't look up.The whole team is still learning the system and they're only now learning how to use a proper no 9. ANd for Hojlund to come into such a dysfunctional team and be asked to score 25-30 goals, at 21, all while learning a new system, is wild. He was good at Atalanta because they knew his game and when to play the ball and when not to.
Is not his fault? it is his faulty and others too. Each player has to take responsibility including Hojlund. Their getting paid millions of pounds. Age is not factor! Lamine Yamal is 17 and doing his job.
We have to agree that the team is not perfoming, so it will affect Hojlund. Look at City, the team is not perfoming well and Halaand is not scoring for fun as he did last season. We cant judge Hojlund now. When team perfoms well, then we can judge him. But I still retaliate my point he has a part to be blamed as part of a team which is not perfoming well.
How can Hojiland have no shot and not be clynical when he has the highest conversion rate as a striker!
Exactly he is not taking shots and chooses to pass instead so not clynical you soft lad.
😂😂 this made me laugh 😂
"Its not his fault that he is being bought for the figure he has", Lol.
I think the way United play doesn’t suit Hojlund’s strengths, as he often has to come deep to get the ball and doesn’t get many touches around the box, as the Athletic have shown with their heat maps. He would probably score more goals if he was at other Premier League teams. That said, he needs to improve his hold up and aerial play, as he gets pushed off the ball too often.
He’s not even a squad player..He wouldn’t get in any other premier league team because he’s terrible
That he doesn't run channels is something we talked about since he came. Was same with Martial. Never made room for other players or popping up as a passing point alternative.
There is hope for Højlund, but he has a lot to improve.
He said “this wouldn’t happen at Barcelona” when it’s literally happening at Barcelona right now
Rudd had 5 years at utd and when they finally sorted his knee injury out he netted 150 goals not sure of his age when he joined utd, but a deadly centre forward just watch everyone of his goals utd haven’t had anyone like that since
The grace & excuses Hojlund is afforded is ridiculous. Even if he isn't scoring goals, the ability to receive, hold up and keep the ball is the bear minimum.
It's not his fault but he looks like he still needs to learn his trade at a much lower level.
Movement isn't great too hence running into defenders instead of away from them🤷🏻
Age has got absolutely mothing to do with it, its about performances, you are either good enough to do the role or not
This guy Chris is a joker. Amorim is making a massive difference. Goals against are set peices needs work on the training pitch. Lots of positives just now. We are not losing games the team spirit is happening the team is fighting for 90 mins and more. Players are gaining confidence. This coach is a brilliant let him get on with it. The league position will be what it will be at the end of the season. If we had stuck with ETH we would be miles off. Amorim has only had 2 months FFS
What Assmuss Hoijlund lacks: first touch, hold up play, creating space for himself, reading what teammates are going to do, passing skills, movement, can’t finish. He’s not a United number 9.
Well if something he can do is finish, but because of the all other things you have said, he doesn't get the chance to.
he can finish tho, just not get enough chance. lets be real, how many chance he got per match regard why he got that many chance.
Hojland is shocking hes clearly another Werner but media as usual when suits makrle excuses for him,typical
Isaak Palmer cost same or less than ramus it's about club and managers buying quality players ramus is not at elite level even age on his side don't see him getting better
Ermmm Palmer was 40 million and Hojlund 72 million so not the same
@johnhopkinson7573 I said same or less
Portuguese League is LITERALLY the league that produces ALL the stars of the premier leagye
The two big differences between the two from last night. Hojlund cannot play with his back to goal and thus cannot hold up play allowing his team to get forward, and his not strong to protect the ball when he tries. Zirkzee did both these things last night and it changed the game for Utd. it gave them a focal point to get forward.
hojlund is the kind of striker that attack an area off the ball .. which is usually quite dependent on the good pass by others. He needs a partner like the classical striker. Where as Zirkzee is a more complete striker that can hold the ball, get involved in the build up, like Berbatov, but he need to polish the ball handling more , strength, finishing. These two still have their homework to do well in EPL. Physical aspect on the Premier League is crazy.
This is the dumbest take I’ve EVER heard from a caller in my life. The Portuguese league is the 5th best league in the world. If not what league is. I’ll wait.
He’s literally the most clinical player in the league yet doesn’t get/creatw enough chances.
Utd might look good on paper with the score line 3-1, but their actual performances tell a different story. That game against Soton really show how much better Soton were on the day, despite all of United's resources.
Stats and predictions mean nothing if the team lacks cohesion, has poor tactics, or underestimates opponents. Matches like that just expose the cracks!
I thought Hojlond was bought to learn from an experienced player, but United never bought the Striker to help him.
How long does it take a striker to learn? Because this bias about him being young is pointless the guy can’t play he runs? Ofcourse everyone runs but he is not good enough let’s face the facts he won’t be good 2 seasons down the drain
Our manager definitely has a lot to answer for. He picks thr wrong team consistently... then has to change it. A lot of our problems is due to his selection
Last 3 games, Zirkzee has come on in place of Rasmus as the 9, and played really good. He is a 9 obviously as thats the substitution he comes on for, he is just a 9 that drops deeper to get involved in the play and link up the play and find people and its obviously working for the team
Caller is a clown. It’s not difficult to understand sometimes you take a backwards step to take 3 steps forward. Amorim is going to turn it around and I’m not a United fan
Can't believe the amount of excuses I've seen made for this kid since he's come. "He's come to a Club in turmoil", "He's far too young to be the main Striker at the Club", "He has potential!", "He doesn't get Service from Garnacho and Antony".......The guy is absolute garbage. Can't believe the amount of stick Rashford and Zirkzee have been getting of late and yet nothing but excuses made for this Danish Pastry. He's far worse than Rashford and Zirkzee. Anybody with an ounce of footballing knowledge can see this. He needs to leave this Month if not next Month. He's never going to be good enough and yet we see Omar Marmoush go across the City whilst United try and hope to get a tune out of this waste of space who is clearly not good enough to play at this level and never will be.
Only absolute clowns who know nothing about football use his age as an excuse. He's never going to be good enough.
Rooney was young. How did he get on?
Rasmus has the best conversion rate in the prem over the last 12 months. It’s not his fault we don’t provide him enough chances.
Hojlund has a lot of areas to improve, but he has one of the best convertion rates in the league, he has hardly any chances created for him like all our strikers the past decade
Amad is smaller and stronger than Hojlund! Big for nothing! 👎
Only reason why hojj gets nod over zirks is because hojj looks the part,but that's as far as it goes with him..amo should put hojj on the back burner and concentrate on zirks as there is a very useful player in there.
Saying Hojland isn’t clinical enough…he has the best shot to goal conversion rate in the premier league. Most goals from shots, it’s clear he doesn’t get the service
Stat Bunnies Like you are why our club will continue to be Mediocre. He’s rubbish, doesn’t know where to run to get the ball played to him… early in the game Bruno was driving forward and instead of sprinting on the inside of the CB he keeps drifting on the outside… Basic footballing senses he does not possess
Spain won the World Cup with Morata who isnt a fantastic striker to begin with and young yamal carried the team. No one is giving excuses that he is a young player carrying the team. It all boils down to quality of the player, regardless of age.
Where do you find these people? Sack him? Good grief.
Im Danish so I know Højlund / his strength is pace and good shot
He doesn't have any pace, I've never seen him running away from a defender yet.
@@gazagovana3291 That's just not true. He is one of the fastest players in the League. Not saying he is good or anything, but his pace is LITERALLY one of his best traits. Look at his games at Atalanta and tell me he don't have pace.
Hojlund is not the finished article yet
Aye, needs sent back to the editor 😂
Hojlund makes good runs,the crosses aren't landing though. We need to have patience. Our wingers need to connect with him.
The guy rings in says Rasmus ain’t good enough and he missed chances against Liverpool, did that guy not see Rasmus laid a goal on a plate for Garnacho who missed then Antony missed an absolute sitter, let’s be fair !!
We've seen many experiments with this Manchester United side. One experiment hits me as a curious thought. How would Hojlund perform in tandem with Zirkzee? Simply saying Zirkzee is better is not enough I don't think. Better at hold up? Yes, it seems. But scoring? I'm not so sure. And I wonder if Hojlund would be much better feeding off Zirkzee. He has, after all, at certain points, shown himself to be consistent.
We overpaid massively, he's a 15-20 million max player
Every week, we are slamming a different player. STOP! let the players and manager do their job in peace.
I think we should stop looking for that big physical striker and get strikers who can run off the defenders...we dont cross the ball anyways...
He cost 72 million!!! That’s more than zirkzee and Nicholas Jackson combined! More than isaak etc.
Totally agree with the caller
We should be bothered on how many chances that were created for him
We need a proper striker. Hojlund would be alright for back up and to come into games and develop. Zirkzee is more of utility tool who can play a couple positions but he needs time as well.
Zirkzee is a brilliant player … exciting to watch .. he’s an attacking midfielder.
I want to like Hojlund, but I’m starting to struggle. I still think he should be given time, but he cannot be our main 9. We need a consistent goalscorer up front.
Antony should be getting the stick for missing that chance!