All these major label pressings are so common. There are 100s of variants out there of these albums which makes this video somewhat interesting. Other than that, I’m still waiting to see some ultra rarities
Matt, this is one of the best videos yet that you’ve put out, especially for some of our staff(“the older guys, LOL), Phenomenal finds, you better hide your friend there, we want his records, LOL😂! Great job gentlemen!
When Led Zep 2 came out, I was attending the Navy Nuclear Power School in Vallejo, California, on Mare Island. The school was pretty intense; loud, rasty rock music helped me to 'personally normalize.' I have no idea how many copies of this L P was pressed, initially, and remember, the group's first album really wasn't THAT big a seller, had no real hit single. I am near sighted, have good close vision, and could tell that the copy of Led Zep II was cut, really hot, really loud. This can give the sound more 'punch,' more intensity, but also cause, in places, more distortion, and skipping. This initial copy did sound great, but the rising organ note on "Thank You" at the end of side one, near the label, always broke up, was distorted. At the beginning of side 2, "Heartbreaker" and "Living Loving Maid" always sounded great. Not long after this, I had another copy of this same L P, and I could immediately tell that the level on the vinyl had been greatly reduced, giving it less 'impact' and 'intensity.' It sounded, believe it or not, relatively 'wimpy!' in comparison. Take your pick! You shouldn't just read about gear before you buy the parts of a sound system. At some point, you need to listen! But I would read the Stereo music magazines, & decided to buy Shure Cartridges as they had 'high trackability' - were designed to play loudly modulated records. Atlantic records seemed to not have the consistency of pressings that other major labels, such as Columbia, Capital & RCA, had. The differences could stem from different pressing plants, possibly from 'relatively high quality' counterfeit pressings, or 'end - runs.' If a record is cut, too loud, it may sound good, but it may skip on a cheap or misaligned turntable, and cause a basically good pressing to be returned. I have seen big areas, parts of rooms at a record distributor, which were dedicated to processing returned, allegedly defective pressings. Handling these, eats into the record company's and distributors' profits. This can motivate compressing the sound so that the sound level is never too loud, or too soft, a distortion of the original fidelity.
PULSE is with out a doubt my absolute favorite album set that I own. Every second is perfect. The artwork by storm thorgonson was well thought out. I honestly don’t see them re pressing it. Great finds and great reviews. VinylEyezz aint got shit on you!!!
+ zakomama64. What is unfortunate? You have one of the most important albums of the 20th Century, That is all that matters. Enjoy the music, That is all that should matter.
Leon thepro any record can sound good if you know how to clean it and take care of it. For example, my dads close friend from italy gave me a record older than this miles davis record and it sounds amazing because she knows how to take care of her records
zakomama64 Taking care of them helps but its far from what determines the actual sound of the record. But if your standards are low then sure, anything can and will sound great.
The only Classic Rare Vinyl that I own is a *Rush - Hemispheres* misprint, with the B side pressed on both sides of the record. Not sure if it's actually worth anything though. 😂
dont all led zep 4 have the insert, all my copies have it, well its an inner sleeve, even my american copy has one and aussie ones do, never seen a copy without it.
I’m gonna venture to say there’s more than a few hundred RL cut Zep IIs out there… but still not a whole lot. Certainly a lot more limited than a lot of “limited” things that get pressed today, especially when you consider what the last 50 years have done to many of them. I’ll say I’ve seen maybe 5 or 6 of them in 20+ years of collecting. Lucky to have a stone mint copy, the album will never sound better than this version… which is what really makes this album so sought after. What you’ve gotta mention is that every other pressing of Zep II is weak and tamed down in comparison!
Wouter Levering lol yeah there are other white vinyl pressings out there if you care about sound quality. The 1978 UK white vinyl pressing is much more valuable. Considered to actually be the best sounding white album out there. And I will say the set looks gorgeous with the proper Apple labels too, it looks like THE freakin white album..not those goofy purple Capitol labels. Crapitol pressings sound awful so you wouldn’t wanna play one in the first place, and at that point I’d barely even wanna put one up on the wall as decoration. With those labels, it could be anything, ya know?
I have all of those except the Miles Davis, but that is because of my taste. I got the Pulse set on 2cd, 4LP, VHS and dvd versions!!! For rarity, I also have an original Leaf Hound Growers Of Mushroom, a copy of which sold at auction earlier this year for £14K! IF you are going to do 'rare' records, then please make sure that they ARE rare - those you showed are not.
I have a largish (6000 +) collection of vinyl & CD. The only thing that matters to me is having the music. I don't care about the delivery system. I own some highly collectible albums, some worth a fair bit, if they were for sale. Which they aren't. What is described in this video is more like stamp collecting. For reasons I can't begin to understand the most valuable records in the UK are 7" singles of what we call Northern Soul ( Dusty Grooves apparently on your side of the pond). Whenever I hear tunes that are worth thousands, with a few exceptions, they are awful. Their rarity is the only thing that gives them value. I just don't get it. Maybe it is just me?
Just to illustrate my point. The Pulse CD is £9.72 on UK Amazon but the vinyl starts at just under £700, used in "good" condition'. If I was bothered. I know which one I would buy.
None of those northern soul records were hits. Many were returned and destroyed as I don't think there were many 45 cut-outs. Many were issued on small independent labels. If a song later gets significant airplay or spins at a club, that's when the rush begins as the number of surviving copies from 40 years ago is limited. In the soul genre it seems through my collecting that even stuff I turned my nose up at the first time around now appear as near classics upon second listen decades later. I'm pretty much a full catalog collector of that genre from 1963-1993. Jazz from the 50's is very similar in that it just appreciates upon every listen and you just thirst for more like it's a drug.
+ Autumn. I could not agree more. Who cares if records were hits though or were widely listened to. I am my own arbiter of taste. I occasionally come across obvious collectible bargains but unless I actually like them, I won't buy them. There is not a single record in my main collection that I do like or even love. I own some turkeys I occasionally play out with when DJing but that is the price we all occasionally have to play when trying to entertain others. But again, I only usually play what I like. I am selfish like that.
tomtheeagle1 Its not just the rarity, but the demand for them. If no one liked Pink Floyd that Pulse box wouldnt be worth anything. Just because you dont like a single doesnt mean others agree, I hate that I even have to say this.
Those albums you showed would give you nightmares, does that Pulse album have a flashing lead on the album box,is the BEATLES White album actually the Butcher Street Album?
All these major label pressings are so common. There are 100s of variants out there of these albums which makes this video somewhat interesting. Other than that, I’m still waiting to see some ultra rarities
Crikey, I'd sell a kidney for that Pulse box.
Yeah... no kidding.
Hurrah! Pulse reissue announced! Price isn't too stupid either. :-)
Had a reissue in my hands yesterday. It was $110 U.S.
Matt, this is one of the best videos yet that you’ve put out, especially for some of our staff(“the older guys, LOL), Phenomenal finds, you better hide your friend there, we want his records, LOL😂! Great job gentlemen!
I got my copy of pulse at Barnes and noble and they had two had no idea it was rare
I have a copy of the Hot Mix Led Zep II. Sounds so awesome!! Can’t wait for the Pulse reissue.
Dang. Crazy finding those out in the wild
thats where i found all the rare albums i own, where else?
When Led Zep 2 came out, I was attending the Navy Nuclear Power School in Vallejo, California, on Mare Island. The school was pretty intense; loud, rasty rock music helped me to 'personally normalize.' I have no idea how many copies of this L P was pressed, initially, and remember, the group's first album really wasn't THAT big a seller, had no real hit single. I am near sighted, have good close vision, and could tell that the copy of Led Zep II was cut, really hot, really loud. This can give the sound more 'punch,' more intensity, but also cause, in places, more distortion, and skipping. This initial copy did sound great, but the rising organ note on "Thank You" at the end of side one, near the label, always broke up, was distorted. At the beginning of side 2, "Heartbreaker" and "Living Loving Maid" always sounded great. Not long after this, I had another copy of this same L P, and I could immediately tell that the level on the vinyl had been greatly reduced, giving it less 'impact' and 'intensity.' It sounded, believe it or not, relatively 'wimpy!' in comparison. Take your pick! You shouldn't just read about gear before you buy the parts of a sound system. At some point, you need to listen! But I would read the Stereo music magazines, & decided to buy Shure Cartridges as they had 'high trackability' - were designed to play loudly modulated records. Atlantic records seemed to not have the consistency of pressings that other major labels, such as Columbia, Capital & RCA, had. The differences could stem from different pressing plants, possibly from 'relatively high quality' counterfeit pressings, or 'end - runs.' If a record is cut, too loud, it may sound good, but it may skip on a cheap or misaligned turntable, and cause a basically good pressing to be returned. I have seen big areas, parts of rooms at a record distributor, which were dedicated to processing returned, allegedly defective pressings. Handling these, eats into the record company's and distributors' profits. This can motivate compressing the sound so that the sound level is never too loud, or too soft, a distortion of the original fidelity.
Miles Davis mono 6 eye? Laughs in stereo 6 eye.
Couple 100 Zep II RLs? More like a couple 100 thousand.
Ok so I know this is an older video, but Matt I have a question. Did you get to play that holy Pulse box on your turntable?
PULSE is with out a doubt my absolute favorite album set that I own. Every second is perfect. The artwork by storm thorgonson was well thought out. I honestly don’t see them re pressing it. Great finds and great reviews. VinylEyezz aint got shit on you!!!
Ryan Wehr they are repressing it.
Great stuff. I also have that white album!
I have Miles Davis Kind of Blue record but unfortunately its the 2010 repressing of it. Close enough I guess?
+ zakomama64. What is unfortunate? You have one of the most important albums of the 20th Century, That is all that matters. Enjoy the music, That is all that should matter.
tomtheeagle1 dont get me wrong, i like the album very much. Its unfortunate that the one in my collection is not rare
zakomama64 I prefer sound quality over rarity. And while the original sounds great I would rather have the mofi box of it.
Leon thepro any record can sound good if you know how to clean it and take care of it. For example, my dads close friend from italy gave me a record older than this miles davis record and it sounds amazing because she knows how to take care of her records
zakomama64 Taking care of them helps but its far from what determines the actual sound of the record.
But if your standards are low then sure, anything can and will sound great.
The only Classic Rare Vinyl that I own is a *Rush - Hemispheres* misprint, with the B side pressed on both sides of the record.
Not sure if it's actually worth anything though. 😂
probably not
I have all the reissue records you introduced
Those eyes are really just Columbia Logos
Regarding Led Zeppelin, around 200.000 of them have been pressed, not a few hundred.
Eli They just have no clue it seems because the pulse box has no songs from Animals to my knowledge and that Capitol Beatles album sounds like crap.
I was gonna say
That pulse boxset!
LittleLion93 they are repressing it.
Yes i noticed, still a little out of budged but one day it will be mine MWAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHH. Did you bourgh it? how does it sound?
Hasn’t come out yet. Another week or so I think. Have preordered it.
Let me know ;)
Will do!
Sweet Phish posters!
LZII - Isnt the UK Plum Atlantic rarer than yours?
comeonuirons Maybe, but not as sought after as the sound on the RL is much better, supposedly.
wait but led zeppelin 2 its original pressing has a red label with slightly smaller numbers for the sides compared to the next few pressings
I have pulse on laserdisc.
dont all led zep 4 have the insert, all my copies have it, well its an inner sleeve, even my american copy has one and aussie ones do, never seen a copy without it.
I’m gonna venture to say there’s more than a few hundred RL cut Zep IIs out there… but still not a whole lot. Certainly a lot more limited than a lot of “limited” things that get pressed today, especially when you consider what the last 50 years have done to many of them. I’ll say I’ve seen maybe 5 or 6 of them in 20+ years of collecting. Lucky to have a stone mint copy, the album will never sound better than this version… which is what really makes this album so sought after. What you’ve gotta mention is that every other pressing of Zep II is weak and tamed down in comparison!
200.000 have been pressed.
Agreed. There's way more than "a couple hundred" like this dude said..
P.U.L.S.E. has 0 songs from the Animals album... Also awesome fidelity on a Beatles Capital pressing?
Wouter Levering lol yeah there are other white vinyl pressings out there if you care about sound quality. The 1978 UK white vinyl pressing is much more valuable. Considered to actually be the best sounding white album out there. And I will say the set looks gorgeous with the proper Apple labels too, it looks like THE freakin white album..not those goofy purple Capitol labels. Crapitol pressings sound awful so you wouldn’t wanna play one in the first place, and at that point I’d barely even wanna put one up on the wall as decoration. With those labels, it could be anything, ya know?
MrRom92DAW Yeah, this guy has no clue it seems.
The Beatles white album on white vinyl was released in 1977/8
How on earth can a record collector not have seen the Led Zep 4 inner sleeve?
Great video!
Thank you sir!
You're welcome. You deserve more views!
From your lips to TH-cam's ears...
Tool, Smiths, Joy Division??? So many others
I have all of those except the Miles Davis, but that is because of my taste. I got the Pulse set on 2cd, 4LP, VHS and dvd versions!!! For rarity, I also have an original Leaf Hound Growers Of Mushroom, a copy of which sold at auction earlier this year for £14K! IF you are going to do 'rare' records, then please make sure that they ARE rare - those you showed are not.
I have the plum label of led zeppelin iv but without the mispress. I got it for £30 when on discogs it's going for £100 😨
I have a largish (6000 +) collection of vinyl & CD. The only thing that matters to me is having the music. I don't care about the delivery system. I own some highly collectible albums, some worth a fair bit, if they were for sale. Which they aren't. What is described in this video is more like stamp collecting. For reasons I can't begin to understand the most valuable records in the UK are 7" singles of what we call Northern Soul ( Dusty Grooves apparently on your side of the pond). Whenever I hear tunes that are worth thousands, with a few exceptions, they are awful. Their rarity is the only thing that gives them value. I just don't get it. Maybe it is just me?
Just to illustrate my point. The Pulse CD is £9.72 on UK Amazon but the vinyl starts at just under £700, used in "good" condition'. If I was bothered. I know which one I would buy.
None of those northern soul records were hits. Many were returned and destroyed as I don't think there were many 45 cut-outs. Many were issued on small independent labels. If a song later gets significant airplay or spins at a club, that's when the rush begins as the number of surviving copies from 40 years ago is limited.
In the soul genre it seems through my collecting that even stuff I turned my nose up at the first time around now appear as near classics upon second listen decades later. I'm pretty much a full catalog collector of that genre from 1963-1993. Jazz from the 50's is very similar in that it just appreciates upon every listen and you just thirst for more like it's a drug.
+ Autumn. I could not agree more. Who cares if records were hits though or were widely listened to. I am my own arbiter of taste. I occasionally come across obvious collectible bargains but unless I actually like them, I won't buy them. There is not a single record in my main collection that I do like or even love. I own some turkeys I occasionally play out with when DJing but that is the price we all occasionally have to play when trying to entertain others. But again, I only usually play what I like. I am selfish like that.
tomtheeagle1 Its not just the rarity, but the demand for them. If no one liked Pink Floyd that Pulse box wouldnt be worth anything. Just because you dont like a single doesnt mean others agree, I hate that I even have to say this.
tomtheeagle1 If you dont care about medium in the slightest then may I suggest selling all of your records and going digital. Way cheaper.
Those albums you showed would give you nightmares, does that Pulse album have a flashing lead on the album box,is the BEATLES White album actually the Butcher Street Album?
Only the CD had the flashing red light. Not the vinyl.
I found Pulse for $250
The white Beatles vinyl is what I call………
*TOOTHPASTE WHITE*
there are no songs from Animals Pulse do your home work
Just sought after first pressings and not any actual rare titles.
rubbish