Russian Slava Ship Brief
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- The Slava-class cruiser is a type of guided missile cruiser that was built for the Soviet Navy in the 1970s and 1980s. The class is named after the lead ship, the Slava, which means "glory" in Russian.
The Slava-class cruiser is a large and heavily armed warship, designed for a variety of naval operations. The ships in this class are 186 meters long and 20 meters wide, with a displacement of 11,500 tons. They are equipped with a variety of weapons systems, including 16 SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship missiles, 64 SA-N-6 Grumble surface-to-air missiles, and 40 130mm guns.
The Slava-class cruiser is also equipped with advanced radar and electronic warfare systems, as well as a helicopter hangar and flight deck for two Ka-27 helicopters. This allows the ship to conduct a variety of operations, including anti-air, anti-submarine, and anti-ship warfare, as well as naval gunfire support and reconnaissance missions.
The Slava-class cruiser was designed to be a formidable opponent to NATO naval forces, particularly the United States Navy. However, only three ships of the class were built, with the last one, the Admiral Flota Lobov, entering service in 1989. The ships served in the Soviet Navy and later the Russian Navy, with the Moskva and Marshal Ustinov still in active service as of 2021.
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Its a sub brief now......
well yeah, its under water, its covered.
A special military operation underwater you could say…
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Eric you always show a lot of respect when talking about other countries and this is rare nowadays. I admire that.
Thanks for more this great video.
Greeting from Brazil
I saw him calling Russia a "shithole country" in the comment section. Don't be fooled.
@@dmitriisheroshenko2566 where?
@@taran7728 not gonna find it now
bush and gorbie chose malta for the meeting due to the good weather
a few meetings where on the uss belknap
only problem they had was the worst storm in years hit malta so they ended up not getting as much done as they wanted
sure it had the nickname "The sea sick summit"
Take a rusty freighter, bolt 100 broken weapons to it, bam! Slava!
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After 2014 Ukraine embargoed all military sales/transfer to Russia because of the invasion buddy.
So if they wanted too........ tactical nuke torpedos send it near a nato group of ships launch all torpedos and pop off a war?
On a contrary. It's purely defensive strategy. USSR's naval strength never was near enough to conter US at seas.
In peace time it's "area of denial" asset. Like a sign "you are not welcome here" for US fleets.
In case of imminent war it's suicide swap strategy: send 1 ship (ok, with light escort) versus 1 US strike aircraft carrier group and, in cost of said ship's life turn carrier group (what remains from it) home for repairs. With some luck for "Slava", group's core ships will be destroyed, not damaged. But there are not exist that amount of luck which could possible to allow this cruiser to return home from such a strike.
Oh god i already want to meme but i will resist.
Go ahead…do it
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Submar-meme?
Careful memes appear suddenly and bellow the radar horizon.
Sunk by only 2 missiles sounds insane. Imagine wargaming and Aaron saying "let's sink the flag ship with just 2 harpoons.".
According to Russia is was 0 harpoon lol😂😂😂
@@jeremydyar7566 And Russia would be right with that! No Harpoon was involved in Moskvas sinking!
Moskova just decided to isolate the fire and flooding to all 15 compartments. Easy mistake, anyone could have made it.
Lmfao 😂
Joke about the Slava class all you want, but the Slava's sonar system was much more effective than the Udaloy's HorseTail/HoreJaw system in a sub hunting context, because Udaloy could never overcome accoustic signal falloff at distance but the Slava class sonar has been deployed much closer to where the submarines are.
@@guaposneeze It will be really good at detecting them from the bottom too.
It went maybe too close where the submarines are...
@@guaposneeze what good is one piece of kit if your entire country and navy is a dysfunctional mess?
I'd like to join, living on a set disability budget.. times are tite. Really enjoy watching. My youngest son is deployed on an Ohio class sub.. this is his first time at sea... earns his dolphins on this run... so proud of his determination. Anyway...good being here.. kick back and learn something
Informative as always, keep up the good work, man!
A great brief on a good ship let down by a lot of issues... I listened to a brief on her which stated that parts of her air defence suite was inoperable, need to dig again and see if I can find it to provide the link... but either way kudos to the Ukrainians for even trying to take her out... I always remember a quote from Tom Clancy when he was on board either Slava or one of her sisters that she had been painted within an inch of her life back in the 90's... thank you for this brief great quality as always.
The Moskva's air defense radar interfered with their communications, so they have the choice to have comms or air defense radar. I think its safe to assume which one wasn't active on the day it sunk.
@@Juliet1106Tango Based on the quality of information comming from Moscow about Moskva at that time it's almost sure they decided to turn off the comms. ;o)
leaked moskva readiness report from 10 feb 2022 claims
Fort has issues with keeping illumination to the target and keeping the missiles painted to the target in one of the electronic (non-firing) exercises
The fire control radars for the Osa-MA has issues with being not active or has issues when active.
MR-123s for the AK-630s have issues with their opto-electronic systems and no indicators of system being on active scan.
MR-800 search radar would make SATCOM unusable when set to active scan.
I saw one of these ships pull into Singapore while my boat was there...made for an interesting port call.
Lazerpig's video on the sinking was eye opening, as he got hold of some of the maintenance reports and she was in a dire state. She was basically a floating Potemkin Village.
Lazerpig lost all credibility after his t14 video. I would be careful with his "sources"
@@noname-wo9yy Nah, at least his old videos are sound. The Moskva one, as you saw in this video, is credible. The T14 one is just lazily done. And the stuff about production was right. Also, you are right a bit, we shouldnt take things for granted.
@@noname-wo9yy What is wrong in his T-14 video? (apart from iirc the engine HP he talked about, as Russians present it in different units which he didn't know/notice, and he acknowledged that iirc in one of NAFO episodes)
@dr_birb There is a fair bit wrong, but I can mention the rebuttal as it gets auto filtered for some reason
@@noname-wo9yy suuure....
If you're reffering to RedEffect response (which you can talk about, it doesnt get censored dw), I wouldn't be too sure about it, given that LazerPig did make a community post saying he had been talking with RedEffect and supposedly RE regrets making the vid (donno for what reason) and more importantly LP plans to respond to it in the future, so it's not a finished plot point.
As we come back to reality, T-14 could be as advanced and powerful as russian -propaganda- sources claims it to be, doesn't matter when the number of them in existance is around 6 afaik (/whatever is the highest number of recorded unique T-14s at one time). Not only it's too few in numbers, but it's also a propaganda symbols, and propaganda symbols can't serve in war, as their destruction is too big of a PR disaster (like Yamato). Americans don't care about Abrams getting destroyed in Ukraine, they have thousands of them.
You said MAD capable, but at first I thought you were using cool kid lingo. Great video.
Wanna hear a joke? Moskva.
One more
Ukraine is winning
@@hiteshadhikari You’re just angry because India was dumb enough to buy all of Russia’s shitty technology and now you have to cope with the fact that Pakistan has better weapons. That’s why Modi’s ultranationalist propaganda networks keep claiming that Russia is winning. Because Modi is a Hindu ultranationalist and admitting that Russia isn’t winning and their technology is bad means admitting that Hindus made a mistake.
Russian military history ami right.
@@hiteshadhikari I'm more partial towards, "Everything is going according to plan"
Got a better one: Kuznetsov
At least she got downed by people from the same country that build her
alpha and omega, the beginning and the end
This sinking was likely a failure at multiple levels from the top down, and IMO even the ultimate design of the ship left it more vulnerable to this kind of attack than it should be. Ironic that the ship should be so capable of hitting others with "Vampire" sea-skimming missiles and so vulnerable to them herself
Do these become members-only after the livestream?
I tried to watch the video on the Royal Navy ship the other day, then it disappeared..... so the HMS Sheffield Type 42 video will be members-only for a year?
Sheffield is a one off that went to Members only. The rest are public after a Premiere.
The Slava class sub brief... I see what you did there!
I've been waiting for this one for a very long time
Can you please do a video on the horsetail vds system???
Moskva is performing excellently as submarine now comrade.
Did you read the moskva readiness report from right before thr war, 90% of the weapons didnt work and the radars and comms couldnt be used at the same time
Was having a terrible day but to hear someone so competent and entertaining talk about these incredible ships for an hour is really a privilege. Turned it right around!
The Slava class are gorgeous in their look, for sure. While it's tempting to make light of the Ukranian's sinking the Black Fleet flagship of the Russian Navy, we shouldn't overlook the loss of life (and you're not). And let's not forget the USS Stark, which on paper should have been able to defend herself against a pair of Exocets but never got a shot off.
The USS stark didn’t sink though probably because it had functioning damage control equipment seriously the maintenance report from the Russian government paints an abysmal picture of the Moskva’s condition the summary is the radar systems interfered with the radio so they were switched off so the ship could communicate of the AK-630 CWIS systems only one worked same with the SA-N-19 and of the 5000 fire extinguishers it was supposed to have aboard it only had 500 and they were locked up by the admiral to they wouldn’t get stolen
Love these videos. I watch all of them. Recommend using your mouse even more to show the location of weapons on these ships. Use the laser pointer for extra points. Assume we are dumb as to which antenna is which
Or make the cursor colored
you should make the cursor bigger when doing these
Or, collared!
Why does Russia still have slave ships? This kinda thing is still allowed over there?
How much does a slave cost in Russia? Asking for a friend 😂
Depends on if you want a working ship, if you want any working Russian ship them it's going to be expensive and hard to come by 😂
God you guys are ignorant
Scroopy, are you or your friend conflating slave with Slavka?
@@roderickcampbell2105 what???
@@robertschultz6922 My comment was directed at "scroopy". Perhaps you did not read scroopy's comment. My comment was not referencing your statements. So your question "what???" has me puzzled.
I truly love your way of speaking, that final bit at the end about how reputation is built during times of war, and depended on during times of peace was poignant.
The upgunned version looks like something I drew as a kid. How many missile launchers can fit on the head of a pin?
Haha
top shelf content as always Jive.... "Gold Star"
50:50 I think you meant 'Centimeters' not 'Meters' in regards to the piece of the cross. Not even the Kirov has enough extra space to store a 9m long hunk of wood.
yea, my brain and mouth don't always say the same thing at the same time.
The Sovremeny are, in my opinion, the coolest looking modern warship.
@@willemsma kresta was cursed in my opinion
No, the Type 055s are.
It takes a war to understand if your navy can fight. A good question is in accident investigations you get a good idea if you are ready. See incident of uss monhan and other ship in passing in San Diego
See uss momsen uss Harper ferry on u tube “near miss” what’s going with shipping
It's awfully easy to just simplify the world into a saying. It makes everything so easy!
Wait a second...what is a Slava Class Cruiser doing in a SUB Brief...wait...ohh...
" in times of war you will build your reputation, in times of peace you will depend on it..." sub brief 2023...
I will keep that one in mind...
14:37 just the results needed as Germans taught us - one IR, one radio-channel, always two. Some of antiship, big ones communicate, I wrote the software for that in old days.
I didn't know that about modern cruise missiles. That's some Star Trek stuff. Thanks Aaron 😮
And that is what they call generation 4 missiles. Now think about what a generation 5 missiles, like the Naval strike missiles (NSM) can do... on of it's capability is that it can find it's target on it's own, even if the warships is hiding between other "commercial" ships, the NSM will only target and attack the warships nothing else. And if you fire more than 1 of them, then those missiles will plan the attack pattern by them self, like for example, attack the target from multiple direction.
It's scary how advance today's missiles are starting to become.
Planning anything special for the coming months Omar?
@@SteveT3D i have something very special planned. You should go to Freedom tower. On the highest on floors. Bring old people, and people on wheelchairs who cannot move fast...
@@heuhen the only swarm attack i knew was the Russian anti-ship ones where one of the swarm takes high altitude to search for target whilst the others stay at sea skimming altitude. Although searching for aim point sounds like it needs to plan the route from launch, otherwise the missile will have to steer at terminal range, reducing speed and increasing response time for the target which isn't ideal...
@@mostlymessingabout NSM only ned to know what area that ship is in, it search for the target by it self, and if you send more than one, they will perform swarm attack. But not like those Russian missiles, where everyone travel the same route. NSM they change automatically route for every single missile in the swarm, attacking from multiple direction, making it even harder to defend, because you don't know where the next one is coming or your system is busy defending in one direction.
NSM also self destruct if it can't find a target it recognize. With NSM you don't need to mark the target in the same way as a 4th gen.
I really hope he gets back to doing these, as I miss them! It is so interesting to learn about the little details of these ships! I’m really hoping he will do something on the horse jaw sonar. That sounds like a very dangerous system.
Nice vid but if I understand You correctly You are saying that Moskva was supos. to be repaired in one og Ukrainians Shipyards around 2016-18? I do not think it would happen because of war in Donbas. It was either in Russian shipyard or in Sevastopol.
Are the RBUs legit effective ASW weapons these days? They seem like relics from WW2 almost. Like, a sub would have to be really close and you would have to have a pinpoint fire solution. Is that a realistic scenario these days?
Gut feel is the Chinese use as anti-torpedo weapons is actually more realistic and more likely to succeed. But I have no clue really (which is why I'm throwing the question out there lol).
The Slava class is class of cruise missile submarines. .... cruisers! I meant cruisers! Damn it!
I find a sub brief of the Moskva ironically fitting.
I completely agree with you. The drone theory is so dumb. All a drone does is wake everyone up and send them to battle stations. i.e. close all the water tight doors, get damage control to their stations, and get the competent people on the command deck. A under qualified night watch bored out of there minds allowing what amounts to a harpoon into insanely close range before detection makes so much more sense. Then with the ship at what amounts to normal cruising conditions. i.e. most or all the water tight doors open, and damage control in their racks, a hit from a single missile, even a small one, could be utterly devastating.
Nobody is currently telling any truth in that area of the world.
If there was a drone in the area, then it was there only to give targeting data for the team that launched the missile from shore.
I heard that the Radar interfered with the Radio so they switched off the Radar to communicate that would explain why it didn’t get shot down
My theory is that they flew a UAV into SAM range to see if Moskva will try to track and engage it but once they understood that it’s running without a radar on they decided to fire ASMs
@@jameson1239 Ya so that's not how radar works, like at all. Seriously that's on par with the admiral back in WWII who was worried about the other side seeing the radar beams with their eyes.
I hear these make good artificial reefs!
I wouldn't be surprised if key components of the radar suite were inoperable at the time of the attack.
On the last point you made, this is not the state of the russian navy: It is the state of their Flagship... their Posterboy; I don't even want to know what is going on on the normal boats.
what's the point of having armor if you can develop advanced shielding systems.
it's a rather big if.
anyway larger ships have been thought as not really not worth it for most users anyway, due to post ww2 weapons.
Could theses legacy radar systems have been prone to undetected spoffing/jamming that "hid" an attacking missile?
Would be great to see the divisions along the centerline, not just the vertical barriers. Capital ships in the first and second world wars often would often have a subdivision between the machine spaces and often in the magazines. If the torpedo and hangar spaces are similar to the VLS battery, spanning across the full beam, you have several compartments in adjoining vertical watertight zones that cannot be easily counter flooded without compromising the rest of the ship either by reduced freeboard or reduction of maneuvering and speed efficiency.
this gotta be the most ironic ship ever constructed. Слава Україні!
It blows my mind that they had to have cruise and sprint turbines in such a vital warship????!!
I was a Fireman on an Arleigh Burke and they have 4 GE LM2500 (which is marinized GE CF6: same engine used by the 747) main engines- 2 per engine room/per shaft (Sprucans and Ticos too- same exact layout).
We could do 40+ knots Flank Speed easily- no changing gears there.
In fact the throttle used on those ships looked just like what you'd see on a speed boat. There's 3 of them: 1 in each engine room for local control and one one the bridge, right next to the helm- which itself looked like the yoke from a large modern airplane. So you one man could literally stand there and operate a 505x64 ft, 8000+ ton warship just like a racing boat and run it close to 50 mph!!!
I wonder how many sailors have been at sea too long and been aroused by that radar?
3R41 Cupcake. I see a missed opportunity there...
I remember an interview from a person that had been on the Moskva during the attack, who later defected to Ukraine that said there was no warning before the explosion, only one missile went off and the other did not detonate. Also the Neptune flew at 5 meters, which is under all their missiles minimum engagement range.
Dudes a liar, I don’t believe this was a missile attack, I’ve heard likely it was very impressive Ukrainian agent-agents in the Russian navy whom sabotaged the ship. Not a single piece of evidence has been presented that there was any missile involved just speculation, and conjecture by people unable to apply intellect (critical reasoning, logic, healthy scepticism)
Alas the combined west citizens are vast majority emotional thinkers and as such are highly susceptible to bias wilfully and subconsciously.
This ship should never have been allowed anywhere near a war zone. Its upkeep was terrible and the crew didn't take care of the ship. The communication systems interfered with anti ship missile radar. So they would shut it down. The ship was also in a terrible physical state.The crew was mainly conscripts. They were so poorly paid. They were constantly steal things off the ship. Even the fire extinguishers had to be locked up, to their prevent theft. The conscripts would sell them in town, because they were top quality. The whole ship was like this. Their are pictures of missing and broken railings on outboard sides. This is very basic safety, which the crew could do, but wasn't done. Preventing people from falling overboard, is as basic as it gets. What a joke! The ship was doomed and I think the Ukrainians knew its state.
You said that Russia tried to maintained and modernize their Moskva cruiser in 2018 in a ukrainian shipyard but that failed due to Russia not paying anything. In 2014, Russia annexed Crimea peninsula from Ukraine and tension rose a lot between the 2 countries (until open war in 2022). Are you sure any ukrainian shipyard would have accepted any modernization of a russian surface combattant after 2014, considering the situation of quasi war between the 2 countries ?
How funny, this video thumbnail shows "Slava Class _SUB_ Brief" and how _literal_ beings the PRIDE of the Russian fleet the Moskva is now a "submarine"!🤣
"Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age" which failed due to lack of care, neglect and poverty.
(And due to one man, who decided that "a small victorious obviously-not-a-war-at-all" will looks cool at his election posters in 2024)
55:02 A Harpoonski, technically speaking
Well, in 2018 Crimea is already occupied and the ship can't go to Mykolaiv shipdock for overhaul because all collaboration between Russia and Ukraine has ended. So they could only to overhaul in crimean shipdocks which already worked under Russian rule.
No no! It did not sink! It was upgraded to also be able to (permanently) submerge! That's something the US can't do with their Ticoderogas! :D
These were pointless- single-purpose vessels that outlived their usefulness when the Cold War ended. I think Russia is glad the Moskva was sunk- waste of precious resources keeping it afloat. They're better served by multirole surface ships like the Admiral Gorshkov and submarines.
Why was it so easy to sink this ship? The answer is easy: corruption, stolen money, really badly trained crew, alcohol, minimal maintenance, weapon systems which are not as capable as specified and typical Russian arrogance towards the enemy. I mean these are systemic failures which can be seen in every part of the Russian military. No other ship or AWACS or whatever saw these anti-ship missiles. The Moskva was not alone but with a fleet of ships.
Not that I doubt your work, but 8mm hull thickness seems almost irresponsible. I wipe my ass with a thicker wad of TP. Just saying....😊
Slava is Russian word for glory. OK, then Ukranians put large hole into the Glory. So you can figure out the rest.
I wonder if the discrepancy between the commissioning date and raising the flag has anything to do with Christmas. The public observance of Christmas had to be more tolerated in the 80s than before.
Dec 30 is only 8 days before Christmas. Maybe there was a specific reason that the ship had to be commissioned before Christmas no matter what?
It gets commissioned to meet the deadline. Everyone takes off for Christmas and needs a day or two to get over all the vodka they drank on Christmas.
Sobered up they realized that they had to fix or finish something very minor. They completed it and raised the flag. But the ship was commissioned before the deadline. And since the whole system is corrupt and they lie when they send in their reports everyone turns a blind eye to everything.
Can you make a video on what Russian subs operate in the Black Sea during the ongoing Ukrainian war? Thank you
The Dec commissioned necessary to Comrade Shipyard manager's bonus. Common with subs as well.
For the memory of Mark Tasov, he was still Jung who wanted to be a train driver and had to serve the navy to do so got assigned to the Moskova and is one that is still missing his parents will not be abal to greave for him properly until his bloody is recovered.
The Soviet and now Russian Warships always looked/look...ROBUST.
19:37 even now I cannot talk about EW details. Sorry man it's really top secret. All I can say it works quite well when activated.
We had a frigate survive a very similar situation where ciws was off and it got hit by an exocet fired by an Iraqi civil plane
Is it common for the usn to deploy a tug with every action group or was that a Russian tradition? I remember the Russian carriers always having at least one tug deploy when ever he went to sea.
So are you telling us the russians sank their own ship by trying to extinguish the fire? That would be even more stupid then negligence.
Horsetail was roughly equivalent to SQS-35 IVDS
Nov 4th 1976..... I'm the exact same age as the first Slava class ship! 😂😊
Slava class has poor compartment ability and little firefighting equipment.
And the Moskva was gloriously promoted to submarine!
Id live to hear about the Ukrainian sub-conversion-kit as applied ;-)
There's been some mumbling that there were frequency conflicts between radar and communications or something, is that nonsense or might there be something to it?
The fact is that no one is sure how well even the best anti aircraft defenses will stand up against a good, low level flying, anti ship missile.
And that is why most AAW ships is using layered defence as their protection.
Some don’t, but the US does plenty of testing with its AEGIS system against even supersonic sea skimmers using targets.
No. The Russians aren't because they don't train. The US is, because we train against them all the time, and we actually use our old anti-ship missiles as targets. We even had an accident where a training drone failed to break away and hit the ship that was training against it.
Well just last week, NATO frigates + Norway have been test firing missiles against various targets, outside of Norway, and from what I have heard, it went quite well. They tested there systems against all type of targets.
There is an tradition that when a US ship or foreign ship, that are equipped with US radar/weapons comes to US for testing. For example the Norwegian frigates went to USA, when they was new and shoot down all target US could trow at them (And those Norwegian frigates aren't AAW frigates, they are ASW frigate). We know they did it well, due to they hung a broom in the mast (clean sweep).
On 15 October 2016, USS Mason was targeted in a third attack by five anti-ship cruise missiles while operating in the Red Sea north of the Bab el-Mandeb strait. The Navy Times reported the Mason fired a radar decoy, an infrared decoy, and several SM-2 Standard missiles in response, either neutralizing or intercepting four of the five incoming missiles. The Navy reported the fifth incoming missile as neutralized by a radar decoy launched from Nitze, after Mason alerted her to the threat.
Excellent and always respectful. I am certain that lack of modernisation and training.
The radars were fucked. One interferd with the radio.the whole ship was in very poor shape. They had a tug follow it around.....
so rum tub gets a cool name but the very obviously boob-like top dome doesn't? i mean it even has a nipple. we were robbed.
If you look - the short range air defense missiles were still stowed so they did not have enough time to get them up. The 6 short range guns are actually 3 sets of 2 turrets, they work in tandem.
This one of those Russian ships that come with their own tugboats to maneuver the thing like their flagship carrier?
Superb work as always Eric.
A fitting subject for a sub brief considering Moskva is now a submarine.
Not a conventional shape for a submarine, but what do I know.
Udaloy is Russian for 'Now you be the boy". Heee...heee....
The Brooklyn class carried this much weight and armor plate
There's a video of a Russian ship which shows a very undisciplined crew.
I think you're 100% correct. The Russian navy is operating ships that are terribly maintained, with crews that simply are undertrained and unmotivated.
Without meaningful refits, ships run in to myriad problems. People forget that ships flex at sea, they warp in effect. The British learned this the hard way during WWII most notably with the pride if the Mediterranean fleet Ark Royal. Most of her watertight doors wouldnt even seal ( great video over on Armoured Carriers channel) and she,was literally run to death.
The same for Moskava. Once water comes in there's no way to stop it or get it back out, thus ship sinks.
Every case is different, who would maintain a floating conference room which was supposed to be decomissioned already? The actual combat vessels are well maintained.
The defenders of Snake Island said......"No." Come on!
One point is that some people in Ukraine konw that ship and its possible problems really well and that may be one key role to missile operation against the ship.
RBU-6000 looks like a very specific job.
I suppose it was a good thing the Ukrainians never installed those upgrades
Why in the COGOG must it be an "OR" not just an "and"? Why would it not be preferable to operate both gas turbines together for monster power?
Gas turbines spin in the 10s of thousands of rpm range it would be difficult to match the speeds and depending on how they optimised the different sized power plants it may not be possible with those engines.