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Scatter - The End of Mattebox Filters?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we talk about a fun new product. SCATTER, the digital mattebox filtration emulation for Resolve. Unlock lots of new potential with new workflow. We test back to back physical vs post filtration and give our thoughts.
videovillage.c...
0:00 Intro
0:31 Examples
1:08 Intro
1:27 What is Diffusion?
2:53 Scatter // Diffusion Options + Examples
3:33 Challenges with Actual Filters on Set
4:29 Scatter VS Actual Filters Comparison
7:29 How Scatter Works
8:58 Before and After
9:40 Pros and Cons
13:28 Outro
Ok so if people don't want to spend 500 bucks on a relatively simple effect, let me lay out the foundation for you to test out in Resolve.
This node setup can be pretty much anywhere in your flow, test and feel what suits you.
- Insert a serial node
- Insert a layer node on top of that
- Set layer blend mode to Screen
- Put gaussian blur into the layer node
- The image now looks horrible, but don't worry
- Dial down the layer node visibility to .3
- Insert serial node after layer mixer, name it e.g. Contrast
- On the Contrast node, set pivot to 1 and contrast to whatever you prefer
- Play with the layered gaussian blur AND the layer node visibility for different strengths of diffusion filter effect (remember to adjust contrast node accordingly)
EXTRA:
- You can play with the curves on the gaussian blur layer node. Drop the curve down in the shadow region to restrict diffusion to highlights more.
- You can stack this effect for more granular control.
- For halation just use the Halation OFX
- When you have achieved a nice effect, create a compound node of the three nodes we built here. This way you can control the strength of the entire effect with one node visibility adjustment.
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If Scatter costs $500, you deserve at least $250 for this tip 😅 thanks!
@@kanilautis796 I'll settle for three fiddy.
Pffffhaha. It's not even near real thing.
do a video o this
$500 is cheaper than what I've spent to date on all my current mist filters. A plugin won't get damaged, lost, or even stolen (!) from a set. A plugin is not limited to filter thread or matte box size. There are still cases I will use a filter, but I'm certainly interested in adding this plugin and not buying another filter again.
Scatter needs to do a real time device for monitoring onset so clients and make up artist don't shoot the DP :)
Your shots are BEAUTIFUL!😍
Looks promising, but I would like to see a real world comparison between physical filters and Scatter. They don't offer trials or demos so you have to pay $100 just to test 🤯 $499 for a software that I'm sure is not 100% comparable with the physical filter's image reproduction is weird. In my opinion a single function plugin shouldn't cost more than $200 (lifetime license). P..S. DaVinci Resolve Studio 18 = $295, Scatter Plug-in = $499 😂🥲
im relatively sure they offer a monthly version also right? Cant remember.
@@NorthwestCameraCo No monthly. I also think it's weird that they don't offer a trial.
One big use for this, besides the obvious ones, is using it in virtual production, especially green screen virtual production. Being able to add a filter to your image in post is honestly a game changer.
This is soooo obvious it totally slipped my mind. This is a MASSIVE use case for this.
@@NorthwestCameraCo I am actually building out a green screen virtual production room right now using Unreal and Ultimatte 12 4K set-ups and everything has to be so clean for the key. Adding this in post really gives you so much more creative options, especially because you can control the talent and background separately.
This a really a really great Post tool and Great if you dont want to commit to a look or refine your look at a later point. Like you said not for everyone or everything but great new tool for many others
Pretty nifty, it seems like each "filter" from Scatter is a little weaker then the actual filter, a 1/4 looks more like a 1/8th. Obviously, you can adjust it to wherever you like which is cool.
Video Village needs to match them up. A Scatter 1/4 looks similar to a real 1/8.
Hi, developer/creator of Scatter (and Filmbox, etc.) here. The profiles are accurate - it's possible they didn't use the "Focal Length" slider in Scatter to correctly dial in the effect. The "Focal Length" parameter in Scatter is calibrated against a S35-sized sensor, so for cropped sensors you'd have to take that into account too.
@@gregcottensuper35 IS a cropped sensor, right? Did you mean to say it’s calibrated for a full 35mm sensor?
@@gregcottenps. Cool plug-ins, btw! Just dropped the money for both of them!
@@gregcottenare there any good solutions for applying these in photoshop to still images?
It would be nice if they continued to add filters with updates. For example, Tiffen just released Black Smoke Filters, which look so badass. I love my glimmerglass but I cannot justify ruining shots due to the highly prevalent double-image ghosting
I’ve been thinking about getting glimmerglass I’ve yet to read about this issue could you explain what double-image ghosting is or any links about it.
Does the scatter version of glimmerglass have the double ghosting?
@@hautehussey no there’s no ghosting on any of the scatter filter emulations
@@school1865 it’s like a lens flare in the shape of the bright object in your image. Like if it’s a lamp, it would be in the shape of a lamp, etc.
@@jarrodbarker thanks for this
Amazing tool, I have used it on Leila Jane - Poison (Official Video) to add nastalgic, vintage vibe to some scene. It realy does the job.
Hey i like that Light Tubes, how did you attach these? And Yes im in the beginning of "cinematic" Filming, atleast im trying, and my basket was full of Black Mists, Glimmers, ND, Smog Filters etc. im going with the Scatter VST instead ;)
Can we use On iPad Pro 😊😊
Looks cool. Do you know if it's possible to use the plugin to create preview LUTs for working on set? I always find clients have little imagination when it comes to post and need to see close to the final look on set. Hence if you can create a preview LUT then that would be amazing.
This was what I was thinking as well.
Creating a LUT is possible when the effect does not use neighboring pixels to compute the resulting.
Scatter is using spatial filtering, so you could not use LUT to « emulate » Scatter
I wish there was something similar for Lightroom
isn't there a glow effect in resolve?
It is, but it's quite limited. I'd love to see a similar built-in effect in the next version of Resolve 🤞
No coupon codes? so sad 😂
I want to try it/buy it but I guess will have to wait to see if they have a sale!
I wish we had one for this!
Now's your moment! Black Friday. :)
Interesting but WAY to expensive. 500$ !! really ?!
Infinitely cheap compared to buying actual filters and having all of them on set every shoot and in different sizes. The cost is actually one of the biggest pros of this plug-in.
I recently paid $500 for just one pro mist filter. The fact that I can basically get every diffusion filter for the price of one is a game changer
yeah, way to much for this... not even dehancer that affects the image in bigger ways costs this much lol...
@@MCplayer94 Yeah it's an incredible product but there are so many plugins for a fraction of the price that do so much more. I'd get this at $200
If you buy full size matte box diffusion filters, this is absolutely worth it.
Yeah but they're crazy for $499 lol