Great video as always! Would love to see other weapons as well. I also would love to see LS builds using dereliction, blood lust with element or just the most broken builds we could do with a quick sheath 3 2 2 talisman. Also status builds when possible. Thanks again for the video
status builds seem too be on the rise, eks: luna raw LS , or para builds with focus on evading attacks for with the use of lucent narga/gold rathian armor. This type of builds are very nice for multiplayer. keep up the great work
Thanks for the build guide. I currently use a build with BloodLust to hit 100% on weak spots & Blood Rite for comfy. The less you heal up and sharpen, the faster and *easier* the hunt.
This must have been an incredible amount of work! Your algorithm sounds super interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it in future videos. I would love to see an insect glaive breakdown , but I would worry that the kinsect will complicate things!
Hello! I would like to see an optimal (and/or almost optimal) blast lance build if possible. I think it's a fun status effect that never gets used in sunbreak, at least for lance.
Hey! Love the vid, thank you so much for the good work you do on lance! A question about the Sets, would the High Element sets work better than the Raw Set on the mid element monsters? Would the Mid Element sets work better than the Raw sets on the High Element Monsters?
Awesome video I was just picking up lance but i'd love to see the meta for greatsword! PS. why do you only run guard 1? Did they buff the strength of the shield in sunbreak?
I'm curious as to why you say the augmenting for Valstrax lance should be LV1 raw and LV1 affinity. I watched Gobul Lantern's video and he says that the augmenting for all lances should generally be LV2 raw and LV1 element.
oops, genuinely forgot; editted it in For sharpness numbers, I used to use one of dtlnor's datamines, but now I use Kiranico. If you look up the weapon pages on Kiranico, you can then view page source and see the parameters they use to generate the sharpness. The each point on the width of the bar on Kiranico corresponds to 5 hits of sharpness.
Wondering if your going to do another best lance builds now that we have two title updates and lots of new armors to play with. Specifically the new malzeno legs are amazing
@@dreamingsuntide1 so for fire I rock silver rathalos helm and chest, bazel arms and waist and feet of fire mazi with 3x attack and 1 lvl 2 slot. Is pretty potent. Still working on other elements but that’s a great build
Hi Suntide, been an avid Lance player since the start of Sunbreak and I've gotten deep into the rabbit hole. One question, was Grinder S considered in these builds, seeing as it's a 10% increase to damage across the board? Ibushi lance in particular can get 350 raw and 21 element with purple after augmentations, and I was wondering if the boosted purple would close the gap between Valstrax and other builds.
Is it true that the rampage skill Elembane and Element Exploit from Silver Los don't proc if the monster's element weakness is below 20? (or 25???). So what I've been doing is making tons of Lances. If the particular monster's element weakness is higher than 20, I'll use the Lance with the highest element, and the element Lance with the highest sharpness if it's under 20.
I noticed you didn't mention Peak Performance when discussing the skill you assumed to have partial uptime. Does that mean you assumed 100% uptime for Peak when writing your python script? I would also just like to thank you for taking the time to create this resource. I've never seen a creator use python to create sets. Incredibly unique process.
Someone on Reddit made the claim that the best overall combo for lance (when element focused) is actually leaping thrust - high poke - high poke, rather than leaping thrust - CWS as many have claimed. While their methods seemed rudimentary, I did notice that that particular combo didn’t seem to be present on the screenshot of your sheets. Is there any veracity to their claims?
I agree with that argument, though probably not for the same reason as the person making that argument. Doing two high pokes after a leaping thrust is better in terms of consistency. When a monster is spazzing out on the ground after being toppled, two high pokes can hit it more reliably than a charged sweep. There are few things more demoralizing when playing Lance than having your charged sweep miss because a monster's spazzing head happened to have spazzed a bit too high for your sweep to hit it.
apparently the optimal combo depends on fps, if you are under 30 fps it’s better to do leaping thrust, high poke x2, or leaping thrust, cws, high poke, but if you’re on pc, it’s the basic leaping thrust, cws, repeat
Some of those lance get purple with handicraft +1 to +3. Might be worth gemming or using a charm for, speaking of the charm any reason to use this one ? it's not really a super rare one (no i'm not talking for wex/cb 2; 2 3-1-1), kinda weird choice, to not chose for something like crit eye 3+second skill 1 or 2. And not counting the qurio bs .. which make things a lot harder an nigh impossible to control (if you don't play on pc, and can't fix capcom gacha hunter mess>) I really hope that the lance meta for speedrun gonna change in the next mh, i hate the insta-block playstyle (not the same as mh4u) combined with spiral thrust and sweep charge playstyle. Well rise is one of the first mh where i will stay off-meta for my main.
Regarding Handicraft, yeah the code checks that. Ultimately, Handicraft *usually* isn't worth it, just because you can usually get more damage with another skill. But you can see that the Thunder build using Skybore actually uses Handicraft 1 + PP2 to get some amount of purple with its White and that gets some value. Regarding Charm choice, I just picked something that I thought was decently rare and good, but not too rare. I thought AB3 2-0-0 / CE3 2-0-0 both hit that equilibrium, but of course you can just add/remove skills if you have anything better.
I believe that is referring to the weapon augment, where "R" is the attack augment and "E" is element. RREEE would be the level 1 attack boost augment (takes two slots) and a level 3 element boost augment
just as advice...i had to stop after half of it bc i realized i cant hold any of the information even tho im a rather seasoned mh player o.o i think more visualization and less text would do the trick, maybe show the items instead of just writing them down. it surely is a lot more work but it helps following you a lot :)
Lance has so much potential, but Gunlance pretty much blows it out of the water in practice most of the time. Not all that surprising. If there's one thing Capcom can't do, it's balance lance and gunlance.
I am currently having a ton of issues deciding on the 2. Basically GL does so so much dmg now and it's actually very mobile so you can just evade the monster. Lance is my love but I still find it a bit underwhelming compared to the other weapons with big shields (GL, CB and to a lesser extent HBG)
That's not even correct.. Shelling is okay damage . Most of the damage either comes in bullet barrage spam or partially from doing the melee hits for full burst. For Lance you need to utalize perfect guard, anchor rage.. Etc to do damage with lance. And gunlance and lance have completely different playstyles. I understand the preference of one over the other but the argument is just false.
Hi! Great video. On the first set you end up with Critical eye 8 (3 from kaiser helmet, 2 from ingot greaves, 3 from charm), so the talisman can be crit eye 2.
I would love to chat!, the python script sounds really interesting
This Video is absolute insane Amount of Work, so glad you looked into Lance its my 2nd Fav Weapon thanks a lot!
Great video as always! Would love to see other weapons as well. I also would love to see LS builds using dereliction, blood lust with element or just the most broken builds we could do with a quick sheath 3 2 2 talisman. Also status builds when possible. Thanks again for the video
status builds seem too be on the rise, eks: luna raw LS , or para builds with focus on evading attacks for with the use of lucent narga/gold rathian armor. This type of builds are very nice for multiplayer. keep up the great work
Dude absolutely amazing video. Thanks for all your work, liked and subscribed
0:15 i never realized the shield in the icon looked like a gaming mouse...i can never unsee that o.o
Thanks for the build guide. I currently use a build with BloodLust to hit 100% on weak spots & Blood Rite for comfy. The less you heal up and sharpen, the faster and *easier* the hunt.
Amazing work brotha! Earned a new sub🔥
This must have been an incredible amount of work! Your algorithm sounds super interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it in future videos. I would love to see an insect glaive breakdown , but I would worry that the kinsect will complicate things!
Excellent stuff. I'd be really interested in bloodlust builds, but not dereliction.
Hello! I would like to see an optimal (and/or almost optimal) blast lance build if possible. I think it's a fun status effect that never gets used in sunbreak, at least for lance.
Nice breakdown, appreciate the work.
Hey! Love the vid, thank you so much for the good work you do on lance! A question about the Sets, would the High Element sets work better than the Raw Set on the mid element monsters?
Would the Mid Element sets work better than the Raw sets on the High Element Monsters?
Finally a good Lance Build guide. Thank you.
Awesome video I was just picking up lance but i'd love to see the meta for greatsword!
PS. why do you only run guard 1? Did they buff the strength of the shield in sunbreak?
I'm curious as to why you say the augmenting for Valstrax lance should be LV1 raw and LV1 affinity. I watched Gobul Lantern's video and he says that the augmenting for all lances should generally be LV2 raw and LV1 element.
is there any link for set album? also could you please let me know where'd u get those sharpness stats in exact number?
oops, genuinely forgot; editted it in
For sharpness numbers, I used to use one of dtlnor's datamines, but now I use Kiranico. If you look up the weapon pages on Kiranico, you can then view page source and see the parameters they use to generate the sharpness. The each point on the width of the bar on Kiranico corresponds to 5 hits of sharpness.
Wondering if your going to do another best lance builds now that we have two title updates and lots of new armors to play with. Specifically the new malzeno legs are amazing
in progress!!
@@dreamingsuntide1 so for fire I rock silver rathalos helm and chest, bazel arms and waist and feet of fire mazi with 3x attack and 1 lvl 2 slot. Is pretty potent. Still working on other elements but that’s a great build
Hi Suntide, been an avid Lance player since the start of Sunbreak and I've gotten deep into the rabbit hole. One question, was Grinder S considered in these builds, seeing as it's a 10% increase to damage across the board? Ibushi lance in particular can get 350 raw and 21 element with purple after augmentations, and I was wondering if the boosted purple would close the gap between Valstrax and other builds.
I love this channel wtf
Awesome, thanks so much!
Is it true that the rampage skill Elembane and Element Exploit from Silver Los don't proc if the monster's element weakness is below 20? (or 25???). So what I've been doing is making tons of Lances. If the particular monster's element weakness is higher than 20, I'll use the Lance with the highest element, and the element Lance with the highest sharpness if it's under 20.
I noticed you didn't mention Peak Performance when discussing the skill you assumed to have partial uptime. Does that mean you assumed 100% uptime for Peak when writing your python script?
I would also just like to thank you for taking the time to create this resource. I've never seen a creator use python to create sets. Incredibly unique process.
would any chance the calculator be open for the public to plug in our own numbers? got an edited qurio build i would really like to see the values on
can you make one for insect glaive raw or elemental build (if they are viable in sunbreak)?
Always confuses me why the furious rajang lance with masters touch isn’t talked about. Nice video though man
Wooooo!!!!! Thanks!!
I got an offensive guard 2/ Quick Sheath 1 3/0/0 and a Attack up 3 4/0/0. Still looking for the fabled crit eye 3 2-4/0/0 charm 🥺
Someone on Reddit made the claim that the best overall combo for lance (when element focused) is actually leaping thrust - high poke - high poke, rather than leaping thrust - CWS as many have claimed. While their methods seemed rudimentary, I did notice that that particular combo didn’t seem to be present on the screenshot of your sheets. Is there any veracity to their claims?
I agree with that argument, though probably not for the same reason as the person making that argument. Doing two high pokes after a leaping thrust is better in terms of consistency. When a monster is spazzing out on the ground after being toppled, two high pokes can hit it more reliably than a charged sweep. There are few things more demoralizing when playing Lance than having your charged sweep miss because a monster's spazzing head happened to have spazzed a bit too high for your sweep to hit it.
apparently the optimal combo depends on fps, if you are under 30 fps it’s better to do leaping thrust, high poke x2, or leaping thrust, cws, high poke, but if you’re on pc, it’s the basic leaping thrust, cws, repeat
What about the last boss lance? Hits hard and lots of purple sharpness. Just need to add crit eye
tq man
The water build for example, how do you max Master’s Touch if you need 3 decorations for it, no armor piece gives Master’s Touch.
Even without Qurious armor crafting you can fit a mastery jewel+ in the Malzeno greaves that gives you 2 levels of MT.
ah, damn, u graduated to lance, i really wish u graduated to DB xD
I would be very interested in seeing this for IG. I can’t find many good resources for it
Some of those lance get purple with handicraft +1 to +3. Might be worth gemming or using a charm for, speaking of the charm any reason to use this one ? it's not really a super rare one (no i'm not talking for wex/cb 2; 2 3-1-1), kinda weird choice, to not chose for something like crit eye 3+second skill 1 or 2. And not counting the qurio bs .. which make things a lot harder an nigh impossible to control (if you don't play on pc, and can't fix capcom gacha hunter mess>)
I really hope that the lance meta for speedrun gonna change in the next mh, i hate the insta-block playstyle (not the same as mh4u) combined with spiral thrust and sweep charge playstyle. Well rise is one of the first mh where i will stay off-meta for my main.
Regarding Handicraft, yeah the code checks that. Ultimately, Handicraft *usually* isn't worth it, just because you can usually get more damage with another skill. But you can see that the Thunder build using Skybore actually uses Handicraft 1 + PP2 to get some amount of purple with its White and that gets some value.
Regarding Charm choice, I just picked something that I thought was decently rare and good, but not too rare. I thought AB3 2-0-0 / CE3 2-0-0 both hit that equilibrium, but of course you can just add/remove skills if you have anything better.
what the meaning qurio RREEE?
I believe that is referring to the weapon augment, where "R" is the attack augment and "E" is element.
RREEE would be the level 1 attack boost augment (takes two slots) and a level 3 element boost augment
just as advice...i had to stop after half of it bc i realized i cant hold any of the information even tho im a rather seasoned mh player o.o i think more visualization and less text would do the trick, maybe show the items instead of just writing them down. it surely is a lot more work but it helps following you a lot :)
Lance has so much potential, but Gunlance pretty much blows it out of the water in practice most of the time. Not all that surprising. If there's one thing Capcom can't do, it's balance lance and gunlance.
I am currently having a ton of issues deciding on the 2. Basically GL does so so much dmg now and it's actually very mobile so you can just evade the monster. Lance is my love but I still find it a bit underwhelming compared to the other weapons with big shields (GL, CB and to a lesser extent HBG)
I don't think we're playing the same game dude
That's not even correct.. Shelling is okay damage . Most of the damage either comes in bullet barrage spam or partially from doing the melee hits for full burst. For Lance you need to utalize perfect guard, anchor rage.. Etc to do damage with lance. And gunlance and lance have completely different playstyles. I understand the preference of one over the other but the argument is just false.
Hi! Great video.
On the first set you end up with Critical eye 8 (3 from kaiser helmet, 2 from ingot greaves, 3 from charm), so the talisman can be crit eye 2.
Lmao I always feel like 0,01% of the mh players playing my lance
and each one fights with the strength of 50