She has single-activated Ni and yet her visual memory blows savior masculine intuitives out of the water. Or maybe she sees the patterns so well that she’s practically seeing reality and that’s what makes her a sensor.
Pre-puberty I had an amazing memory, could remember practically anything I read and became a walking encyclopedia. Now, at age 21 I only have vague notions of all those things I remembered. I suffered depression throughout my teenage years, and depression is known to atrophy the hippocampus which is the part of the brain that stores memory. So I’m wondering if being depressed in such a critical period of development in a sense brain damaged me and destroyed my memory.
Went through basically the same thing, but I was to the point of not being able to read. What brought me back was lions mane and exercise, specifically cardio, and a lot of time.
I went through the exact same thing, dissociative issues more than depression, but that as well unfortunately. Lion’s Mane and cardio is exactly what has helped me the past few months too! I aim for 30 minutes 6 days a week, for 180 minutes, which I heard on a Huberman podcast on memory, and it has been game changing. I knew there would be nootropics overlap with this community lol. I lose my train of thought less now and can more easily push through that depressive “wall” when negative emotion / rejection sensitivity gets set off due to failing or thinking I’m about to fail a cognitive task, which is the best part. What’s important to know is that cognition-related memory and focus, as a skill that can be built or atrophied, is absolutely changeable/reversible. It is not a permanent state that “is” or “isn’t”. Through this stuff I’ve been able to build it back slowly, and with that, a notetaking app called Obsidian, I’m still getting my memory and focus back slowly. Good luck!
Depression doesn't damage your brain, you just loose your ability to fully access all your brain capacity you have in that period of time. Also, as you go through puberty your brain changes it's functionality and doesn't rely solely on memory anymore, but instead focusses on understanding, which describes exactly your phenomenon. You don't particularly lost an ability, you practically have grown out of it, since your brain doesn't focus on memory anymore. We can see this exact phenomenon in other children. They can absorb knowledge and information easier, but don't have the ability to reflect on it. Still, the memory performance is way greater back then, because this is part of the cognitive development cycle. Look up Piaget's cognitive development stages and you will get an even clearer image regarding this matter.
I'm unable to. It goes in one ear and then out the other. I know _some_ lyrics, like a line - but then it fades out. There's also words that I've looked up in the dictionary ten times, probably twenty times and it just won't stick. I checked out the human benchmark webpage the other day. Did a few memory/intelligence tests. After a few tries I got better than 90% of test-takers on three tests. One was called verbal memory and I placed 90% on the first try, but the way the test works is different from remembering lyrics. All you gotta do is know whether you've seen a word before or not, you choose between "new word" or "repeated word." And I'd just have a sense, a feeling whether I had seen the word before or not. I didn't actively remember it, it was just something in the back of my mind telling me the answer. It's the same way with songs, I'll hear a song and I'm like "oh I know this song" but I don't know the actual lyrics or notes.
@@oscarl.3563 Oh that's all very intersting. It indeed sounds more like a subconcious thing. I don't generally remember lyrics myself either, but then again I do not listen to them either. Also most music is in the english language, which is not my first language. I think this makes it easier not to even let it register. Maybe such things are similar to you too? I usually do actively hear chords though or modes (they create a color palette, general vibe of the music ) even though I do not have much music theory knowledge. However, they seem more important to me than melodies which just seem something on top to me. They just create a certain vibe. This is the reason why most modern pop music sounds similar becasue it seems to constantly uses the same few chords. I'm curious what your type is?? My Fe dom girlriend for example has no interst in music unless it's vocal. I think it's a very F thing to have interst in that (interest in vocals and lyrics).
@@PowerRedBullTypology With English lyrics it's relatively more difficult to pick up on what is being said. Otherwise I think it's the same. I self-type FM NiTi SB/C(P.) I believe it's very accurate, I've tweaked it over the years and had already committed the mistake to type-yourself-upside-down before OPS so I only had to figure out modalities and animals. My feminine D-Se is very, very weak and single-activated. For instance I remember your red arrow avatar, and your name. We've probably chatted before but I have no clue what was said or whether it was hostile or not.🤷
@@oscarl.3563 It's interesting that you seem to imply is related to low and feminine sensory . If masculine and feminine functions exist (as I'm still a bit skeptical), then I am fairly certain my intuition should be masculine too and sensory thus feminine . I've always very much struggled with things like names too! Even when I watch a new tv show or movie, I often struggle remembering the names of the characters. However, once I've finally absorbed all that stuff in the beginning I usually find it relatively easy to predict where things are going. I have no clue if we ever interacted either as I don't remember commenters well either. It would surprise me though if it was actually hostile, since when talking about things like typology I tend to ignore people's (negative) emotions rather than act hostile. (however, some might view my skepticism/critical thinking as hostile)
Good to know. This is one of the most interesting things I have heard about MBTI. I'd like to see a face chart that is grouped with the type chart.@@ridorock6
@@fastneataverage as quoted from shan “you cant look at the ST, you have to check the vibe, the NF” For female ENTJs, it’s a very sharp look, wide face But that’s really the only concrete thing i cant think of, it’s not about specific features, it’s more of the impression you get from the overall features coming together (that and sharp eyes and thin thick lips hehe)
Definitely visual for me then. If I hear a foreign name or word and can't visualize how it would be written then I literally cannot comprehend the sounds and it throws the rest of what they say into disarray. I can repeat the sounds, but it's just mimicry and feels like I'm treading on thin ice over deep waters -- and I can't swim😅
@@PowerRedBullTypology If I know the language, or am familiar with it, sure. If I don't know the language it's a lot harder, if not impossible. It doesn't seem to be a constant thing necessarily, but mostly happens when foreign words show up in a language I know, but the word doesn't follow any of the rules of sound for that language. As an example, say we're speaking in English and you suddenly throw in the word "pesco" I might go, "sounds Spanish, like 'fresco,' probably written like it too. OK, got it!" Still don't know what "pesco" means, but my brain isn't stuck on parsing it out and can stow it away and rather pay attention to the current conversation. (True story, btw. Don't remember if "pesco" was the actual word, but I do remember it rhymed with "fresco.") Applies to foreign accents too. Especially when I was younger, if someone spoke my native language with a heavy accent, I didn't stand a chance and would always be baffled when it seemed everyone else understood them perfectly fine. (What was I doing wrong? Why can't I understand?) Eventually enough ST will have been gathered for the N to distill and weave into patterns, and I can then apply that to new, but similar situations. Or in other words, it gets better with practice, and if I become familiar with one accent then understanding the next one gets easier. All that said, there are occasions, though very few, where a word, in a familiar language, following all the rules, just absolutely refuses to stick no matter what, such as the writing term "pantser," (someone who "writes by the seat of their pants," or discovers their story as they write it, the opposite of someone who plots their story before writing it). It's a word I... strongly dislike because it makes absolutely no sense to me at any level.
Oh crap yeah, my memory is in both a time line … a visual one in my head and I drop down into it and it’s like a movie will play… I’ll remember what people were wearing in color, but my brain in real time is literally cropping things like should I hold onto that… what’s important and what bin does it go in and what’s the vibe… what’s under the vibe…. Where have I seen this shit before😂. My childhood friends will ask me about their third grade experiences… and I’ll remember them 😊but they won’t hahaha. Not cool when you think about how many crushes I remember of OTHER people having… whether they talked about it, or not. 😂
I knew someone who met her and her son (son was a toddler at the time). They said her son was the smartest 2 year old they’d ever met. Maybe her son inherited her abilities?
It's a great one, thank for sharing. It confirm my Te Se masculines. I wonder if most or all Asperger have Masculine Sensory (we have Filmographic/autobiographic memory) 8:28 I wanted to know the condition, so I did research : "Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory" It have to be so exhausting mentally to have it.
I have Asperger's and I'm an INFJ, I'm also stupid high masking but thats another topic. Her description of visual timelines like a DVD scene selection feature is spot on! I'd say we all have very good memories asnd the higher your Ni is I think the more visual your memory is. I know two other people with Asperger's that I'd consider to be around as intelligent as me, one is an INFJ the other an INTJ and they both have very very good memories. Nothing like the people in this video but when I am reading case law for example I start to see legal reasoning with the cited cases using previous case law that I remember and it just comes to me out of seemingly nowhere.
@@nateo200 You are right regarding the visual memory behavior to some extent. You still are somewhat short-sighted (haha) regarding this matter. Intuition is definitely a function relying heavily on imagination, hence they are synonym, but imagination encapsulates more than just visualization, meaning not just internal visual perception, but also other senses, just internalized. It's more like a mental translation from external to internal senses like sight = visualization, and so on and this gives the false impression of thinking about intuition as mostly visual. Visualization is just the best-known internal sense we have, but it actually isn't the only one we have and use. The same applies to sensory. If your sensory is feminine, then you will still have quite a visual memory, just more focused on sensorial things. Masculine sensory is more about timelines, is more kinesthetic, and so on. The modalities (feminine or masculine) and the version (introversion or extraversion) of the functions (as well as their frequency, hence animals) are way more important when determining one's type of memory.
I thought memory was about masculine Sensory vs feminine Sensory. Does that still hold? Are these super memory people different from standard OP theory?
It depends MSensor have more timeline, ordered, list-like and spacial memories MIntuitives have more visual memories So you can have super memories in different ways i suppose
I genuinely believe I have this, I havent met anyone else with my level of recall. Do I need to register somewhere or something? Theres likely a bunch of us
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This growth-mindset vs not seems to be Fi vs Ti. Which is Fi - I am responsible for my own emotions vs. Ti - I am responsible for finding reasons to make others fix my emotions
@@ashmitagautam4048 Yes, because Fi people are not responsible for how they think. Somebody has to do it for them. Also, Dave and Shan are both Fi. Naturally, they think Fi way is the correct way
Frownie biscuit is also what I got on the test.
I'm aware it's besides the point, but Shan looks so cute here, the wavy hair is great and the pale cool colours complement her so well!!
Agree! ❤
She has single-activated Ni and yet her visual memory blows savior masculine intuitives out of the water. Or maybe she sees the patterns so well that she’s practically seeing reality and that’s what makes her a sensor.
Great comment
Holy crap she looks like Shannon too:)
BROOO!! Bob Petrella was my professor last semester NO WAY. Had no idea he had super memory!!! Thank god he didn't flunk me.
Dude she literally has Si Polr like whattt !!
Pre-puberty I had an amazing memory, could remember practically anything I read and became a walking encyclopedia.
Now, at age 21 I only have vague notions of all those things I remembered.
I suffered depression throughout my teenage years, and depression is known to atrophy the hippocampus which is the part of the brain that stores memory.
So I’m wondering if being depressed in such a critical period of development in a sense brain damaged me and destroyed my memory.
Went through basically the same thing, but I was to the point of not being able to read. What brought me back was lions mane and exercise, specifically cardio, and a lot of time.
I went through the exact same thing, dissociative issues more than depression, but that as well unfortunately. Lion’s Mane and cardio is exactly what has helped me the past few months too!
I aim for 30 minutes 6 days a week, for 180 minutes, which I heard on a Huberman podcast on memory, and it has been game changing. I knew there would be nootropics overlap with this community lol.
I lose my train of thought less now and can more easily push through that depressive “wall” when negative emotion / rejection sensitivity gets set off due to failing or thinking I’m about to fail a cognitive task, which is the best part.
What’s important to know is that cognition-related memory and focus, as a skill that can be built or atrophied, is absolutely changeable/reversible. It is not a permanent state that “is” or “isn’t”. Through this stuff I’ve been able to build it back slowly, and with that, a notetaking app called Obsidian, I’m still getting my memory and focus back slowly.
Good luck!
Depression doesn't damage your brain, you just loose your ability to fully access all your brain capacity you have in that period of time.
Also, as you go through puberty your brain changes it's functionality and doesn't rely solely on memory anymore, but instead focusses on understanding, which describes exactly your phenomenon. You don't particularly lost an ability, you practically have grown out of it, since your brain doesn't focus on memory anymore. We can see this exact phenomenon in other children. They can absorb knowledge and information easier, but don't have the ability to reflect on it. Still, the memory performance is way greater back then, because this is part of the cognitive development cycle.
Look up Piaget's cognitive development stages and you will get an even clearer image regarding this matter.
It makes sense that one would remember lyrics more often than other words, since on places like the radio the same songs are repeated a zillion times.
I'm unable to. It goes in one ear and then out the other. I know _some_ lyrics, like a line - but then it fades out. There's also words that I've looked up in the dictionary ten times, probably twenty times and it just won't stick.
I checked out the human benchmark webpage the other day. Did a few memory/intelligence tests. After a few tries I got better than 90% of test-takers on three tests. One was called verbal memory and I placed 90% on the first try, but the way the test works is different from remembering lyrics. All you gotta do is know whether you've seen a word before or not, you choose between "new word" or "repeated word." And I'd just have a sense, a feeling whether I had seen the word before or not. I didn't actively remember it, it was just something in the back of my mind telling me the answer. It's the same way with songs, I'll hear a song and I'm like "oh I know this song" but I don't know the actual lyrics or notes.
I remember lyrics as I hear them, and they're too often wrong.
@@oscarl.3563 Oh that's all very intersting. It indeed sounds more like a subconcious thing. I don't generally remember lyrics myself either, but then again I do not listen to them either. Also most music is in the english language, which is not my first language. I think this makes it easier not to even let it register. Maybe such things are similar to you too?
I usually do actively hear chords though or modes (they create a color palette, general vibe of the music ) even though I do not have much music theory knowledge. However, they seem more important to me than melodies which just seem something on top to me. They just create a certain vibe. This is the reason why most modern pop music sounds similar becasue it seems to constantly uses the same few chords.
I'm curious what your type is?? My Fe dom girlriend for example has no interst in music unless it's vocal. I think it's a very F thing to have interst in that (interest in vocals and lyrics).
@@PowerRedBullTypology With English lyrics it's relatively more difficult to pick up on what is being said. Otherwise I think it's the same.
I self-type FM NiTi SB/C(P.) I believe it's very accurate, I've tweaked it over the years and had already committed the mistake to type-yourself-upside-down before OPS so I only had to figure out modalities and animals.
My feminine D-Se is very, very weak and single-activated.
For instance I remember your red arrow avatar, and your name. We've probably chatted before but I have no clue what was said or whether it was hostile or not.🤷
@@oscarl.3563 It's interesting that you seem to imply is related to low and feminine sensory . If masculine and feminine functions exist (as I'm still a bit skeptical), then I am fairly certain my intuition should be masculine too and sensory thus feminine . I've always very much struggled with things like names too! Even when I watch a new tv show or movie, I often struggle remembering the names of the characters. However, once I've finally absorbed all that stuff in the beginning I usually find it relatively easy to predict where things are going.
I have no clue if we ever interacted either as I don't remember commenters well either. It would surprise me though if it was actually hostile, since when talking about things like typology I tend to ignore people's (negative) emotions rather than act hostile. (however, some might view my skepticism/critical thinking as hostile)
ENTJs look so distinct
I’d be curious to know more about that. What are their common features?
They do. But I think we might be biased because Shannon's an ENTJ and they tend to show her type twins very often.
Good to know. This is one of the most interesting things I have heard about MBTI. I'd like to see a face chart that is grouped with the type chart.@@ridorock6
@@fastneataverage as quoted from shan “you cant look at the ST, you have to check the vibe, the NF”
For female ENTJs, it’s a very sharp look, wide face
But that’s really the only concrete thing i cant think of, it’s not about specific features, it’s more of the impression you get from the overall features coming together (that and sharp eyes and thin thick lips hehe)
@@J11_boohoo I love this. Super interesting to think that these similar facial features are common to personality types.
I love this channel
Definitely visual for me then. If I hear a foreign name or word and can't visualize how it would be written then I literally cannot comprehend the sounds and it throws the rest of what they say into disarray.
I can repeat the sounds, but it's just mimicry and feels like I'm treading on thin ice over deep waters -- and I can't swim😅
Yeah, I need to see names/words written out for me to actually remember them, even if they're common.
Could you distinguish the beginning and end of words in another language?
@@PowerRedBullTypology If I know the language, or am familiar with it, sure. If I don't know the language it's a lot harder, if not impossible.
It doesn't seem to be a constant thing necessarily, but mostly happens when foreign words show up in a language I know, but the word doesn't follow any of the rules of sound for that language.
As an example, say we're speaking in English and you suddenly throw in the word "pesco" I might go, "sounds Spanish, like 'fresco,' probably written like it too. OK, got it!" Still don't know what "pesco" means, but my brain isn't stuck on parsing it out and can stow it away and rather pay attention to the current conversation. (True story, btw. Don't remember if "pesco" was the actual word, but I do remember it rhymed with "fresco.")
Applies to foreign accents too. Especially when I was younger, if someone spoke my native language with a heavy accent, I didn't stand a chance and would always be baffled when it seemed everyone else understood them perfectly fine. (What was I doing wrong? Why can't I understand?)
Eventually enough ST will have been gathered for the N to distill and weave into patterns, and I can then apply that to new, but similar situations.
Or in other words, it gets better with practice, and if I become familiar with one accent then understanding the next one gets easier.
All that said, there are occasions, though very few, where a word, in a familiar language, following all the rules, just absolutely refuses to stick no matter what, such as the writing term "pantser," (someone who "writes by the seat of their pants," or discovers their story as they write it, the opposite of someone who plots their story before writing it).
It's a word I... strongly dislike because it makes absolutely no sense to me at any level.
Oh crap yeah, my memory is in both a time line … a visual one in my head and I drop down into it and it’s like a movie will play… I’ll remember what people were wearing in color, but my brain in real time is literally cropping things like should I hold onto that… what’s important and what bin does it go in and what’s the vibe… what’s under the vibe…. Where have I seen this shit before😂. My childhood friends will ask me about their third grade experiences… and I’ll remember them 😊but they won’t hahaha. Not cool when you think about how many crushes I remember of OTHER people having… whether they talked about it, or not. 😂
I knew someone who met her and her son (son was a toddler at the time). They said her son was the smartest 2 year old they’d ever met. Maybe her son inherited her abilities?
Mine would not be measurable, even with modern equipment.
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It's a great one, thank for sharing.
It confirm my Te Se masculines.
I wonder if most or all Asperger have Masculine Sensory (we have Filmographic/autobiographic memory)
8:28 I wanted to know the condition, so I did research : "Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory"
It have to be so exhausting mentally to have it.
I have Asperger's and I'm an INFJ, I'm also stupid high masking but thats another topic. Her description of visual timelines like a DVD scene selection feature is spot on! I'd say we all have very good memories asnd the higher your Ni is I think the more visual your memory is. I know two other people with Asperger's that I'd consider to be around as intelligent as me, one is an INFJ the other an INTJ and they both have very very good memories. Nothing like the people in this video but when I am reading case law for example I start to see legal reasoning with the cited cases using previous case law that I remember and it just comes to me out of seemingly nowhere.
@@nateo200 Thank for the answer ^^
@@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes No problem! I'm curious about other replies!
@@nateo200 You are right regarding the visual memory behavior to some extent. You still are somewhat short-sighted (haha) regarding this matter.
Intuition is definitely a function relying heavily on imagination, hence they are synonym, but imagination encapsulates more than just visualization, meaning not just internal visual perception, but also other senses, just internalized. It's more like a mental translation from external to internal senses like sight = visualization, and so on and this gives the false impression of thinking about intuition as mostly visual. Visualization is just the best-known internal sense we have, but it actually isn't the only one we have and use.
The same applies to sensory. If your sensory is feminine, then you will still have quite a visual memory, just more focused on sensorial things. Masculine sensory is more about timelines, is more kinesthetic, and so on.
The modalities (feminine or masculine) and the version (introversion or extraversion) of the functions (as well as their frequency, hence animals) are way more important when determining one's type of memory.
I thought memory was about masculine Sensory vs feminine Sensory. Does that still hold? Are these super memory people different from standard OP theory?
It depends
MSensor have more timeline, ordered, list-like and spacial memories
MIntuitives have more visual memories
So you can have super memories in different ways i suppose
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I genuinely believe I have this, I havent met anyone else with my level of recall. Do I need to register somewhere or something? Theres likely a bunch of us
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This analysis gives me Sylar vibes
haha.."Save the cheerleader"
OMG yes! thank you for sharing this ^^
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Shannon is so beautiful it’s distracting 😅
This growth-mindset vs not seems to be Fi vs Ti. Which is Fi - I am responsible for my own emotions vs. Ti - I am responsible for finding reasons to make others fix my emotions
Yikes, no. Functions are not bad in themselves. Ti is more- I am responsible for the way I think. Less about emotion
@@ashmitagautam4048 Yes, because Fi people are not responsible for how they think. Somebody has to do it for them.
Also, Dave and Shan are both Fi. Naturally, they think Fi way is the correct way
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