EXACTLY. I know your comment is 4 years old, but I couldn't have said it better. Corpsegrinder may have a better range, blah blah...but he does NOT bring the fear and morbidity Barnes did.
George is wholesome af and great at what he does. There's a weird disconnect for me that george doesn't write anything. The Bleeding is my personal favourite. Every riff and vocal is spooky.@@MasoviaPolska
Anything before George Fisher is when Cannibal was at their best. But, I have to respectfully disagree about this possibly being their best. Butchered at Birth was their best followed by Tomb of the Mutilated. They could be remastered tho.
@@danielfoley89 Jesus Christ, easily his worst vocals ever recorded with CC and you think it's his best. Absolutely braindead, no wonder you worship De Mysteriis, you can't tell good vocals from shit ones
Chris Barnes was essential to cannibal corpses grimey sound ad feel. Corpsegrinder is great and they are an amazing death metal band but that grotesque vibe was lost with Barnes.
Couldn't agree more. CB's groove, guttural vocals, and visceral lyrics were essential to the best of Cannibal Corpse, especially on Tomb and The Bleeding.
I think Corpsegrinder fits their new style more - they don't detune they just went to 7 strings. They have a more thrash-metal sound now. Still - OG Corpse is my favorite
According to Paul Mazurkiewicz, the original logo was never trademarked and copyrighted by Chris Barnes, since it was Alex Webster who came up with the name of the band, and Chris was the one who designed it. When Chris got fired the band, it was more like "Oh you're going to use my logo, I want to get paid royalties for it," so to get around that the band decided to create a new logo. I got that information from a video where Paul was interviewed about his and Cannibal Corpse's Wikipedia page, basically what is actual fact and what is fiction. th-cam.com/video/VcqEetUC7SI/w-d-xo.html
@@elliotrudd2424 it's not a case of arrogance it's a case of him feeling anger and betrayal at being booted from a band he helped establish. Yeah maybe it was petty of him but can you blame him? He obviously would have been very pissed off at the time.
@@danielfoley89 it's 2022 in case you didn't notice. I've listened to that live, come on man, the guy barely managed to growl properly for 20 min and you can barely hear vocals in the first place.
@@danielfoley89 LMFAO there is NO CHANCE you think that dogshit Nightmares album is an example of good Barnes vocals... Jesus Christ, is every single SFU fan just deaf?
I've always loved this.... had the killing spree box set years ago and was wicked stoked that this was on there!... wish that chris never left the band. Met him in Worcester mass about a decade ago after six feet under played and he was so chill and wicked cool. Not stuck up AT ALL.. couldnt believe it . Chris barnes rules!!!
If Chris never left the band they would be a decent band with a shitty vocalist. He cant sing worth a shit anymore, itssad that people would actually think they would want what he is in SFU in CC.
11:43 "I put the gun to the roof of my mouth / Squeezing the trigger I hear the explosion". This is the kind of sick, cerebral stuff that no one can write like Chris. His vocals on this album sound like a goddamn bear
Wish they fired Barnes right after this album was released... Just heard it right now and this sounds heavy asf!!! Will this ever be released as is? Barnes is a beast here, I don't understand how Paul said in a video that Barnes just doesn't have it anymore after The Bleeding.
Chris vocals kept getting better with each release then even with six feet under haunted it was top notch he was one of a kind vocalist he did add that signature dark grotesque sound.too cannibal corpse without a doubt.
@@danielfoley89 true, i was just pissed off with their latest album so bad, big disappointment there, all the momentum they had since undead was fucked, first by that stupid graveyard classics 4 which i bet was a punishment from slagel for that cattle decapitation incident around that time and now the fucking nightmares of the composed which was by far the worst... it sucks that but yeah he still is my favourite death metal vocalist, at least on butchered, tomb of the mutilated, undead, unburied (gore hungry maniac) and the live releases, all the rest for me is meh, or eeeeeeeeeh for lack of a better word
@@graveyardclassics Yeah lol, it’s too bad that people can’t see the potential Chris Barnes had. He wasn’t even getting started in 1995. But unfortunately a dick named Alex Webster exists so that can’t happen.
@@danielfoley89 I believe was just like not getting along kind of stuff, I met Alex in person one time actually, he was kind as can be, and he was at the time I met him with jet lag, just woke up and had to prepare himself to do a concert the same day. he stayed talking for more than an hour with me and friends there, even if I couldn't be at the concert he was absolutely receptive and hanging with us took pictures and everything. I dont believe Chris is a bad guy too, just people kinda crap get in between. haven't met Chris unfortunately.
In my opinion, it was their biggest mistake to left Chris, because his voice is always will be the the sign of real CC. And the logotype too... Chris have much more sympthic vocals.
This still sounds good. Chris didn't start losing his voice until a couple years later. It was good that Cannibal Corpse got George instead at this time.
The bleeding in my opinion was canninal corpse at their very best! Maybe Chris and the dudes out did themselves and were all destined to never surpass that cohesive level of mastery?
He was Cannibal til 93. Then his voice went to complete shit. Glad George is in the band, look at how dogshit SFU sounds nowadays. That's what we would've got if Barnes was never booted.
I don't think they died in 1995 but Barnes was THE best . The last album I bought was ' The Bleeding ' . That said Barnes had a great voice till ' Haunted ' after this album his best were years past .
Seriously. And not to take away from George's talent or singing ability, but it's just hard to get into CC after Barnes left. I rarely play any corpsegrinder stuff. He's not bad, I just got into CC with Chris on vocals and that's the sound of CC I liked.
I have the red picture disc if this sounds great Unburied Horror-Disfigured Gallery of the Obscene- Orgasm through Torture To Kill Myself-Eaten from Inside
i gotta admit that i'm not a huge chris barnes fan, but damn his vocals are sick here. it's really meant more for that shitty demo quality than it is for high produced stuff, but you could argue that about dm as a whole
The version before this was, "not a drop of blood (left in my body), no sign of life left in me. My heart beats no more (I have expired). Someone please bury me. The words in brackets are missing in most versions online. Please upload the early version that was floating around the internet in 2000 or 2001
Fuck yeah this sounds mint on vinyl. Was this actually ever released back in the original timeframe as an official demo? Always wondered that. It's not listed in metal-archives except for in the boxset.
The boxset was the first time these tracks in this form saw the light of day. This was all that was recorded for what was intended to be the Created To Kill full album with Barnes on vocals before he basically pressed pause on the recording process to go on tour with Six Feet Under.
Man if all C.C stuff was like this and the Bleeding, they'd be absolutely up there with the death metal greats. These are the two stand outs as groovy pieces of brutal metal. Seriously gives them something different over basic blast beats and dimminished riffs. But in their massive catalog, I find a band like Carcass to be so much more consistent. This album really could've put C.C in an even higher legend than they are low.
@@hyssean12 success and consistency doesn’t make greatness. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift are successful at being consistently awful and so has Cannibal Corpse since 1998.
Without barnes there wouldnt be a cannibal corpse. He created the whole vibe, chose the artist and commissioned those crazy album arts. His vocals and lyrics launched them. If they found some normal ass thrash singer non of us would know who CC were.
You can see chris;s vocals dont fit the band anymore, pretty much what they were saying in the documentary. I guess production would have been different in the final product so i dont know if it would have sounded better than Vile
Chris was great in Butchered, great in TOTM, and great in The Bleeding. He did experiment with some different things in 3rd and 4th albums but nothing that changed my opinion of him.
He tried to do much deeper vocals than he could actually manage to maintain on performance and that resulted in ToTM having weird vocals, there is videos of concerts from 1992 and 1993 and barnes actually had much better vocals than those in the album. Just a failed experiment to sound more cavernous. That album is their absolute classic anyway.
Chris Barnes can't even say the words fast enough to match the speed of the song, I think George Fisher really made Vile a lot better by being on pace with the songs and saying the words way more clear and well crafted.
Dude this is a demo. The decision to speed the vocals up was probably made later. It's very rare a demo is exactly the same as the studio recording. Hell "Sanitarium" and "Orion" used to be a single song.
if your not gInGeR (have a vocal coach and an ass coach how to fart all tones on earth) you need to ballance things out, sometimes you cant yet hold up with an idea, even phil anselmo as any original death or extreme metal singer crashed this wall once or twice in hiw career, couldnt sing rise or the first track of trendkill.. Its trail and error, and here its allot of Trail and a little error ! Chris has the nose on front in terms of articulation and grinder is the busta rhimes of death metal, with a very powerfull even bite in his tone but not majestic and morbid as barnes goes.
Respectfully, you cannot really compare the high energy approach of Created To Kill with the more atmospheric Haunted. Both vocal performances are excellent on their own right.
No hate for George this is the album that got me into them but hopefully somewhere in an alternative universe the musicians aren't ducks and Barnes in still.in the band In my opinion they really came off as jerks in that wretched spawn documentary
Fucking miss Chris Barnes and old school cannibal corpse just now does have the kill and gross beyond to it always wonder who in CC wanted to get rid of Chris Barnes I think the drummer ealhat do you all think in CC want Chris gone and yes I know about going different ways which I think is bullshit
well, chris's vocals were also really badly deteriorating. have you even listened to SFU's newest album? he sounds like shit. there's no denying that he sounds KILLER on this demo, but they let him go because he was quickly on his way to losing his growl.
Corpsegrinder ultimately was the better move to keep the band going, and overall is a much better vocalist. But man Chris sounds amazing on these heavier songs. Corpsegrinder’s performance on Vile is kind of boring tbh. Chris’s vocals are a lot more dynamic on this demo. but anything thinking they should’ve kept Chris should listen to Six Feet Under’s discography and thank your lucky stars. even on the first few albums Chris’s vocals were noticeably declining. post 2002 they’re almost laughable
Agree wholeheartedly mate. People tend to talk about Chris barnes as if it's still 1994 lol, it's like the last 20 years have been so horrific that they just block it out and it becomes a lot easier to hate on corpsegrinder.
@Hairless Wookiee i bought at the time George albums, but was kind of disappointed, in times of Barnes corpse was almost like mayhem in levels of how obscure and sick the music was, with George became just theatre
@@darrellogilvie George might be technically faster, but does that really count? In comparison to Chris' rich vocals and inspired lyrics, George sounds like a hollow clown. No soul, no nothing.
@@danielfoley89 even while in CC his vocals were mediocre. You can hear several times in Butchered where his guttural is breaking and you hear just normal voice and it sounds retarded. He was never that good. The sooner you realize the better
@@danielfoley89 also no clue what you're even talking about. Corpsegrinder's vocals have more power and body than Barnes has ever had. This is coming from someone who's favorite is Butchered, so you can save the Corpsegrinder fanboy bs
why couldn't they let barnes just be barnes? he sounds like shit on this, because he sounds angry. what made him sound so brutal in butchered and tomb, was that he had such a calm demeanor. this is what people don't understand. the more laid back the gutterals are, the MORE evil they sound. like, just picture satan talking. you think he's gonna be screaming and yelling in a fit of rage?
@@JRPrestonIL Exactly. Chris' reports about his band mates making fun of him during that time confirm this. They obviously needed someone who they can control 100%. Chris might have had a clear vision about the lyrical and vocal direction, but I highly doubt it was a good idea to replace an artist like Chris with a robot like George, just for Alex and Paul to regain control over these musical parameters again.
His vocals sounded amazing on this. They were a mix between butchered at birth and the bleeding. This demo could’ve been better than the bleeding, not butchered though.
He physically wasn't capable of sounding like that anymore. He had no technique and ruined his vocals, that's why his vocals on the newest SFU are more of a gurgle than anything. Definitely not a growl
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Barnes injects that macabre atmosphere. So damn good.
EXACTLY. I know your comment is 4 years old, but I couldn't have said it better. Corpsegrinder may have a better range, blah blah...but he does NOT bring the fear and morbidity Barnes did.
@@MasoviaPolskawrong though, Chris has always had more range than George
@@solidariusgaming2854 eeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
George is wholesome af and great at what he does. There's a weird disconnect for me that george doesn't write anything.
The Bleeding is my personal favourite. Every riff and vocal is spooky.@@MasoviaPolska
Damn, this could have been the best CC record ever
Anything before George Fisher is when Cannibal was at their best. But, I have to respectfully disagree about this possibly being their best. Butchered at Birth was their best followed by Tomb of the Mutilated. They could be remastered tho.
I agree with you funeral fog I don't see how his vocal patterns are lacking at all
You need to get your hearing checked, fanboy.
@@danielfoley89 Jesus Christ, easily his worst vocals ever recorded with CC and you think it's his best. Absolutely braindead, no wonder you worship De Mysteriis, you can't tell good vocals from shit ones
@@denizenofclownworld4853 fr these mfs are retarded lmfao he sounds like dogshit here and went on to sound like dogshit for way too long with SFU
Chris Barnes was essential to cannibal corpses grimey sound ad feel. Corpsegrinder is great and they are an amazing death metal band but that grotesque vibe was lost with Barnes.
Well thats your opinion, I think Corpse grinder completes Cannibal
Couldn't agree more. CB's groove, guttural vocals, and visceral lyrics were essential to the best of Cannibal Corpse, especially on Tomb and The Bleeding.
I think Corpsegrinder fits their new style more - they don't detune they just went to 7 strings. They have a more thrash-metal sound now. Still - OG Corpse is my favorite
Exactly
Spoken like a tribalist fanboy who hasn't heard Barnes since 1994.
He's terrible, and you have a low IQ.
I love the original Cannibal Corpse Band Logo better than their current one I wish Chris Barnes didn't trademark it so they could still have it.
According to Paul Mazurkiewicz, the original logo was never trademarked and copyrighted by Chris Barnes, since it was Alex Webster who came up with the name of the band, and Chris was the one who designed it. When Chris got fired the band, it was more like "Oh you're going to use my logo, I want to get paid royalties for it," so to get around that the band decided to create a new logo. I got that information from a video where Paul was interviewed about his and Cannibal Corpse's Wikipedia page, basically what is actual fact and what is fiction. th-cam.com/video/VcqEetUC7SI/w-d-xo.html
got it tatted on me because i missed it so much
yeah mate that was what happened. as good as chris was at singin, he was arrogance walking
Yes the new logo are shit,like a new materials!
@@elliotrudd2424 it's not a case of arrogance it's a case of him feeling anger and betrayal at being booted from a band he helped establish. Yeah maybe it was petty of him but can you blame him? He obviously would have been very pissed off at the time.
“I can feel my own body rotting” And this is why we all miss Chris. Not just because of amazing vocals, but the brutal and unmatched lyrics.
Totally agree. He was essential to the band. Vocals and lyrics are just excellent. I cant get into CC without him
I read an article from Corpse that said they included this in the box set to show who was better...I am confused...
only CB can't growl anymore so no, not really.
@@danielfoley89 it's 2022 in case you didn't notice. I've listened to that live, come on man, the guy barely managed to growl properly for 20 min and you can barely hear vocals in the first place.
@@danielfoley89 LMFAO there is NO CHANCE you think that dogshit Nightmares album is an example of good Barnes vocals... Jesus Christ, is every single SFU fan just deaf?
it's a shame this isn't widely available because its a killer demo
Chris was the soul in the corpse.
10:04 To Kill Myself (Eaten from Inside)
13:41 Bloodlands
18:08 Puncture Wound Massacre
19:50 Devoured By Vermin
Jesus, 14:14 is suuuuch a huge massive vocal sound. That sound right there is why he is the greatest of all time
I've always loved this.... had the killing spree box set years ago and was wicked stoked that this was on there!... wish that chris never left the band. Met him in Worcester mass about a decade ago after six feet under played and he was so chill and wicked cool. Not stuck up AT ALL.. couldnt believe it . Chris barnes rules!!!
If Chris never left the band they would be a decent band with a shitty vocalist. He cant sing worth a shit anymore, itssad that people would actually think they would want what he is in SFU in CC.
Fucking AMAZING demo.
I like both versions in all honesty
11:43 "I put the gun to the roof of my mouth / Squeezing the trigger I hear the explosion". This is the kind of sick, cerebral stuff that no one can write like Chris. His vocals on this album sound like a goddamn bear
Barnes is the Real Deal!
It's basic af.
He used almost the same lyrics a six feet under song. I can't think of it off the top of my head
Ahh yes, I believe it was One bullet left
@@raymondbartels1635 off the top of your head lol
Good product. I miss old CC!
Ох..энний сюрприз! Навiть не знав,що життя порадуэ на старостi таким подарунком!!! Дякую!!!..
Chris Barnes - лучший!!!
have a similar feeling like The Bleeding
IHATEDRIVING2 Yeah, it's got the vibe
Chris sounds better on this than the bleeding.
Great demo! Thanks.
First album to get me to love death metal
Indeed weird
Wow. That's a pretty *deep* _cut_ to get started on sir😉😋
fisher-aaaaaaa -aaa-aaaaaaa-aaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaa without melody just one scream ,this is real death metal and best vocal on earth
The REAL Cannibal Corpse
What the fucking hell???? Why does Chris so fierce on this, but so shiiiiiiittty in Six feet under, the same year???
Barnes est malade !!! Dommage que ce soit pas lui sur l enregistrement de Vile .Thanks for sharring
Wish they fired Barnes right after this album was released... Just heard it right now and this sounds heavy asf!!! Will this ever be released as is? Barnes is a beast here, I don't understand how Paul said in a video that Barnes just doesn't have it anymore after The Bleeding.
It because Paul doesn't know what is talking about Chris voice are great on here
Horns up from Canada!
Wish they could remaster it and clean it up. This is so good.
They really should patch the beef. Be cool to see Chris and George do some songs together live or something.
@Muffinpurplegurk yes please
Holy shit, WOW! Fucking excellent demo! CC in their absolute prime was a force to be reckoned with...
Chris vocals kept getting better with each release then even with six feet under haunted it was top notch he was one of a kind vocalist he did add that signature dark grotesque sound.too cannibal corpse without a doubt.
now he fucked up his voice, clean your ears
@@graveyardclassics His voice on unburied sounded good, but his voice sounded terrible on their 2020 album.
@@danielfoley89 true, i was just pissed off with their latest album so bad, big disappointment there, all the momentum they had since undead was fucked, first by that stupid graveyard classics 4 which i bet was a punishment from slagel for that cattle decapitation incident around that time and now the fucking nightmares of the composed which was by far the worst... it sucks that but yeah he still is my favourite death metal vocalist, at least on butchered, tomb of the mutilated, undead, unburied (gore hungry maniac) and the live releases, all the rest for me is meh, or eeeeeeeeeh for lack of a better word
@@graveyardclassics Yeah lol, it’s too bad that people can’t see the potential Chris Barnes had. He wasn’t even getting started in 1995. But unfortunately a dick named Alex Webster exists so that can’t happen.
@@danielfoley89 I believe was just like not getting along kind of stuff, I met Alex in person one time actually, he was kind as can be, and he was at the time I met him with jet lag, just woke up and had to prepare himself to do a concert the same day. he stayed talking for more than an hour with me and friends there, even if I couldn't be at the concert he was absolutely receptive and hanging with us took pictures and everything. I dont believe Chris is a bad guy too, just people kinda crap get in between. haven't met Chris unfortunately.
Rare album awsome
Chris barnes is on fire 🔥
classic death metal cannibal corpse 1995
The demo had a nice sound that I like more then regular cannibal corpse
Intresting find here
This is so much better than Vile
In my opinion, it was their biggest mistake to left Chris, because his voice is always will be the the sign of real CC. And the logotype too... Chris have much more sympthic vocals.
back then, sure. Not now, he is awful, listen to any of his performances singing old CC songs with SFU and its obviously why they canned him.
SO MUCH BETTER WITH BARNES!!!!!!!!!!
This still sounds good. Chris didn't start losing his voice until a couple years later. It was good that Cannibal Corpse got George instead at this time.
The bleeding in my opinion was canninal corpse at their very best! Maybe Chris and the dudes out did themselves and were all destined to never surpass that cohesive level of mastery?
The bleeding is my favourite Chris album aswell, I think Kill asserted Corpsegrinder era as equally essential though, like AC/DC or Maiden :)
@@danielsproston3650 i'd say it was bloodthirst or vile
Butchered was their best, hands down.
So Fucking Deadly! Chris Is the shit. 🤘
Estupendo caníbal corpse 🤘 💪 brutal 👏 🍀♠️
nobody. can. replace. Chris. he. was. cannibal
@@PowerMovez93 yes
Absolutely im new to cannibal corpse and I agree 100 . the other guy sounds like hed be good in all hardcore band or something its cool tho
@@PowerMovez93 yes
I couldnt agree more! I cant get into george..not the same. Plenty of amazing Barnes era songs and albums tho 😁😁
He was Cannibal til 93. Then his voice went to complete shit. Glad George is in the band, look at how dogshit SFU sounds nowadays. That's what we would've got if Barnes was never booted.
Chris Barnes marco lo mejor de canibal corpse 🤘🤘🤘
YOOOOO I just realized the line “squeezing the trigger” at 11:43 gets reused in no warning shot by sfu
I miss Barnes so fuckin much
Cannibal Corpse died in 1995
Yep. CC doesn't exist past this demo for me.
Yahya_Japheth Bathory yeah man so true CC died after barnes departure
I don't think they died in 1995 but Barnes was THE best . The last album I bought was ' The Bleeding ' . That said Barnes had a great voice till ' Haunted ' after this album his best were years past .
H.A.L. 9000 yeah he lost his voice so quick after haunted
I want this on my fuckin itunes 😭😭
Vermiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jean Marie D , Babass, Franck
Yeah, I just can't do CC without Barnes man..... He was an important ingredient, like the pepperoni on the 🍕... If that makes sense.
Seriously. And not to take away from George's talent or singing ability, but it's just hard to get into CC after Barnes left. I rarely play any corpsegrinder stuff. He's not bad, I just got into CC with Chris on vocals and that's the sound of CC I liked.
actually, pepperoni isn't good on pizza, ham is a much better solution but ppl are simply ignorant
Hy Nadaud from France.
I have the red picture disc if this sounds great
Unburied Horror-Disfigured
Gallery of the Obscene- Orgasm through Torture
To Kill Myself-Eaten from Inside
i gotta admit that i'm not a huge chris barnes fan, but damn his vocals are sick here. it's really meant more for that shitty demo quality than it is for high produced stuff, but you could argue that about dm as a whole
The version before this was, "not a drop of blood (left in my body), no sign of life left in me. My heart beats no more (I have expired). Someone please bury me.
The words in brackets are missing in most versions online. Please upload the early version that was floating around the internet in 2000 or 2001
th-cam.com/video/WfZXQAtk1fQ/w-d-xo.html
Fuck yeah this sounds mint on vinyl. Was this actually ever released back in the original timeframe as an official demo? Always wondered that. It's not listed in metal-archives except for in the boxset.
The boxset was the first time these tracks in this form saw the light of day. This was all that was recorded for what was intended to be the Created To Kill full album with Barnes on vocals before he basically pressed pause on the recording process to go on tour with Six Feet Under.
@@SkummyTheZombie \m/
CC = CB !!! \m/\m/
Man if all C.C stuff was like this and the Bleeding, they'd be absolutely up there with the death metal greats. These are the two stand outs as groovy pieces of brutal metal.
Seriously gives them something different over basic blast beats and dimminished riffs. But in their massive catalog, I find a band like Carcass to be so much more consistent. This album really could've put C.C in an even higher legend than they are low.
Wtf. You say they would be at the top of death metal? They are at the top. They are the most successful death metal band ever. Super consistent.
@@hyssean12 success and consistency doesn’t make greatness. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift are successful at being consistently awful and so has Cannibal Corpse since 1998.
cannibal corpse™
Barnes was so perfect for Cannibal Corpse! Brutal! 🤘😈🤘😈🤘😈🤘
Without barnes there wouldnt be a cannibal corpse. He created the whole vibe, chose the artist and commissioned those crazy album arts. His vocals and lyrics launched them. If they found some normal ass thrash singer non of us would know who CC were.
Better than Vile
You can see chris;s vocals dont fit the band anymore, pretty much what they were saying in the documentary. I guess production would have been different in the final product so i dont know if it would have sounded better than Vile
Man it's just a demo, the demos sound like that he's not gonna sound perfect on this but in the final take this will sound different
Way better then vile Chris Barnes writing his own lyrics on this demo don't like vile version that much
Yes yes and yes
barnes sounded amazing in this wtf happened during ToTM
Chris was great in Butchered, great in TOTM, and great in The Bleeding. He did experiment with some different things in 3rd and 4th albums but nothing that changed my opinion of him.
He tried to do much deeper vocals than he could actually manage to maintain on performance and that resulted in ToTM having weird vocals, there is videos of concerts from 1992 and 1993 and barnes actually had much better vocals than those in the album. Just a failed experiment to sound more cavernous. That album is their absolute classic anyway.
If only Chris took voice lessons to keep his voice from going to shit. Kids learn from Chris's mistakes
way better with barnes.
Esto es CC para mi , AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHTTTTTTT
Barnes
Wow, this is SO much fucking better than what became the album.
PLEASE GIVE US A LINK TO THIS!
as you did for justice for Jason! MAKE JUSTICE TOOO BARNEEEEESSSSS
Chris Barnes can't even say the words fast enough to match the speed of the song, I think George Fisher really made Vile a lot better by being on pace with the songs and saying the words way more clear and well crafted.
Dude this is a demo. The decision to speed the vocals up was probably made later. It's very rare a demo is exactly the same as the studio recording. Hell "Sanitarium" and "Orion" used to be a single song.
That made CC bit boring now. has no groove with george´s vocals
if your not gInGeR (have a vocal coach and an ass coach how to fart all tones on earth) you need to ballance things out, sometimes you cant yet hold up with an idea, even phil anselmo as any original death or extreme metal singer crashed this wall once or twice in hiw career, couldnt sing rise or the first track of trendkill.. Its trail and error, and here its allot of Trail and a little error ! Chris has the nose on front in terms of articulation and grinder is the busta rhimes of death metal, with a very powerfull even bite in his tone but not majestic and morbid as barnes goes.
Shelved? This version is...\,,/
Need
Chris Barnes was cannibal corpse now the horror sick sound gone too bad he doesn't go back to cannibal corpse
Respectfully, you cannot really compare the high energy approach of Created To Kill with the more atmospheric Haunted. Both vocal performances are excellent on their own right.
No hate for George this is the album that got me into them but hopefully somewhere in an alternative universe the musicians aren't ducks and Barnes in still.in the band In my opinion they really came off as jerks in that wretched spawn documentary
Comment va Rachid see you Rachid
Fucking miss Chris Barnes and old school cannibal corpse just now does have the kill and gross beyond to it always wonder who in CC wanted to get rid of Chris Barnes I think the drummer ealhat do you all think in CC want Chris gone and yes I know about going different ways which I think is bullshit
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Holy hell he does perfect (kinda) until he comes up with that "vEEEEERmIIIIIIn" XD
It's not as bad as they make out in interviews... I was expecting him to be doing a live Danzig impression or something. Still prefer Vile though.
obrigado.
Vile fue una decepción para mí. Si hubiese podido decidir que versión comprar ,habría comprado esta Cris es genial y el original .
Why was the original "Vile" shelved?
@@PowerMovez93 O,o
Do caralho.
After rob rusay and Chris left they pretty much suck
After the two weakest members were booted... yeah sure
How stupid they were to part ways whith Chris Barnes… CC turned soulless after that.
well, chris's vocals were also really badly deteriorating. have you even listened to SFU's newest album? he sounds like shit. there's no denying that he sounds KILLER on this demo, but they let him go because he was quickly on his way to losing his growl.
wrong clown, Nightmares is literally the only time Chris wasn't sounding good.
Corpsegrinder ultimately was the better move to keep the band going, and overall is a much better vocalist. But man Chris sounds amazing on these heavier songs. Corpsegrinder’s performance on Vile is kind of boring tbh. Chris’s vocals are a lot more dynamic on this demo. but anything thinking they should’ve kept Chris should listen to Six Feet Under’s discography and thank your lucky stars. even on the first few albums Chris’s vocals were noticeably declining. post 2002 they’re almost laughable
Agree wholeheartedly mate. People tend to talk about Chris barnes as if it's still 1994 lol, it's like the last 20 years have been so horrific that they just block it out and it becomes a lot easier to hate on corpsegrinder.
Glad this was never released...getting George was such a good move!
Hairless Wookiee amen. Me too, got tyrant sin, beyond death, and CC’s first 4. Getting rid of Chris killed the band
@Hairless Wookiee i bought at the time George albums, but was kind of disappointed, in times of Barnes corpse was almost like mayhem in levels of how obscure and sick the music was, with George became just theatre
@Hairless WookieeI strongly disagree man, George's vocals are brutal as fuck, his pronunciation is much clearer and he is more versatile.
@@darrellogilvie George might be technically faster, but does that really count? In comparison to Chris' rich vocals and inspired lyrics, George sounds like a hollow clown. No soul, no nothing.
@@danielfoley89 even while in CC his vocals were mediocre. You can hear several times in Butchered where his guttural is breaking and you hear just normal voice and it sounds retarded. He was never that good. The sooner you realize the better
Oh my god Devoured by Vermin is so bad on this version
@@danielfoley89 Barnes fanboy
You mean you don't like that totally br00tal intro scream? VERMEEEEEEEEEE
I'm convinced that song alone is what got him booted lmfao. He's off time, doesn't match the rhythm, sounds like shit
@@danielfoley89 I prefer Barnes CC thank you very much, he just had a very dramatic fall from grace
@@danielfoley89 also no clue what you're even talking about. Corpsegrinder's vocals have more power and body than Barnes has ever had. This is coming from someone who's favorite is Butchered, so you can save the Corpsegrinder fanboy bs
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why couldn't they let barnes just be barnes? he sounds like shit on this, because he sounds angry. what made him sound so brutal in butchered and tomb, was that he had such a calm demeanor. this is what people don't understand. the more laid back the gutterals are, the MORE evil they sound. like, just picture satan talking. you think he's gonna be screaming and yelling in a fit of rage?
@@JRPrestonIL Exactly. Chris' reports about his band mates making fun of him during that time confirm this. They obviously needed someone who they can control 100%. Chris might have had a clear vision about the lyrical and vocal direction, but I highly doubt it was a good idea to replace an artist like Chris with a robot like George, just for Alex and Paul to regain control over these musical parameters again.
His vocals sounded amazing on this. They were a mix between butchered at birth and the bleeding. This demo could’ve been better than the bleeding, not butchered though.
He physically wasn't capable of sounding like that anymore. He had no technique and ruined his vocals, that's why his vocals on the newest SFU are more of a gurgle than anything. Definitely not a growl
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