ZX Spectrum FROM HELL - BIN FODDER! - Part 1

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  • @Ghost82uk
    @Ghost82uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This gives the sense how bad it was, I got it for the case and the case alone because I was planning to build the raspberry pi zero ii project from the retro shack onto it and got curious
    Found the pla out on the last pin and reinserted, then 12v line missing and had to reinstate the transistor which had been soldered with a warm axe
    put out the call for help and this legend was the man who answered, Lee was a legend for taking this on

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is James who sent the cremated remains of a ZX Spectrum to me.
      Imagine trying to fix this through text messages! "there's big lumps of solder under the ROM"
      That would have been fun 🤣

    • @Ghost82uk
      @Ghost82uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MoreFunMakingIt "there's a bodge wire under the chip"
      "ok, obviously a broken trace james, no need to panic"
      "no the trace looks fine"
      "James, your obviously taking the Mick, please don't message me again, I'm a busy man"
      🤣🤣

  • @RetroSegaDev
    @RetroSegaDev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my new must watch channels! A great blend of humour and electronics that I barely understand! But here I am watching again... I can't wait for part 2! 😁

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Matteus 😁😁😁
      Keep watching and you'll soon learn enough to do what happened to this Spectrum 🤣

    • @RetroSegaDev
      @RetroSegaDev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt 😂

  • @jackleg693
    @jackleg693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also. The editing in this episode is superb! Don’t think we didn’t notice that.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nawww. Thanks mate. It's nice to know it's appreciated.

  • @MikeDX2
    @MikeDX2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was equally enjoyable and horrifying! Nice one Lee, looking forward to the rest!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Mike! There's a lot more to come 😜
      I hope you're able to sleep tonight 😁

  • @RudysRetroIntel
    @RudysRetroIntel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent work! Nice to watch someone who knows how to do repairs

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've always been a decent bodger 😂

  • @retrobitstv
    @retrobitstv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, what a mess! Nice repair so far and a very enjoyable watch. Keep up the great work!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!
      Glad you're enjoying the mess 😁

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I guess the whole thing is the result of extraordinary talent, a 400+ °C ...hot iron from the car workshop, and... long term storage under a cottage on the beach? Great job on the videos!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to think there was an element of malicious intent.
      Or cold revenge.
      But I agree with the likely toolset.
      Thanks for the kind comment 😁

  • @brettb.345
    @brettb.345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait for part 2. Thanks.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither can I! 🤣
      Thank you for watching 😁

  • @rsnilssen
    @rsnilssen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good time of day to you :D I used to fall asleep to those videos, listening to his diagnostics :D

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He does have a very calming voice. Like an educational presenter from the 70's.

  • @8-bitsteve500
    @8-bitsteve500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow.. just shocking but I'm totally riveted to it. Can't wait to see the next!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Steve! Work on the next TWO episodes is well under way 😁

  • @mrbridger5
    @mrbridger5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video. 👍 so many issues in that board, and bodge repairs on things that didn't need repairing. 😄

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It was certainly interesting. The most work I've put into a repair so far 😅

  • @jackleg693
    @jackleg693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn’t help but laugh at the humour and even I, a complete non electrical person, could see that you have a real multi part project here.
    Now time for me to get back to my fine, precise, delicate brain surgery with my blunt hedge trimmer.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you heat up that hedge trimmer and use it on a Spectrum this is probably what would happen!

  • @SparksNZeros
    @SparksNZeros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for knackered sockets like that i find cutting them into strips of 4 pins and using a clamp and hot air from the other side to get them out in pieces, then desoldering braid to clear the holes. loving the dedication on this beast of a board.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before I got the desolder station I used the same method you mentored.
      Now I love an excuse to moo a part off the board 🤣

  • @ThanassisTsiodras
    @ThanassisTsiodras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Android Roy's speech from Blade Runner seems appropriate.... "I've... seen things... you people.... wouldn't believe"

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oohhhhh! I might use that in the next episode!

  • @StewiesRetroGaming
    @StewiesRetroGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic watch mate I can't wait to the thrilling final installment of.... "SPECTURM IN PERILLLL!!!!" Said in my best 50 tv voice 😅😉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oooh. I wonder if I can work Flash Gordon into it!
      Thanks mate. I think you'll like the next one too!

  • @jaycee1980
    @jaycee1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26:35 this is a good case for enamelled wire. You could pass that through the via, down through the socket hole, and then off to wherever else the trace connected to... and solder at all points. The enamel insulates it but would burn away where you make the solder joints. I recycled a lot of mine from old CRT deflection coils and deguass coils
    continuing to watch with much interest!

  • @nickolasgaspar9660
    @nickolasgaspar9660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol...what a mesh!!!!! I am in the middle of fully socketing my first Speccy and I have to say.....this type of mesh demands considerable effort.

  • @SanguineBrah
    @SanguineBrah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where Sideshow Bob takes a rake to the face every time he takes a step.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Soooo many rakes. In later episodes you'll see some I put there myself!

  • @mogwaay
    @mogwaay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On holiday on the Scilly isles and this video is a terrific was to recover from exposure from the wind, rain, sea spray and sun! Very enjoyable video Lee, looking forward to the next episode!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow! Hope you're having a fantastic time 😁

    • @mogwaay
      @mogwaay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt it's a lovely place, highly recommend - although there is a distinct lack of retro computers on the isles 😋

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They'll be there somewhere. You just have to look harder 😉

  • @ReEnthused
    @ReEnthused 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got my multiple accents down perfectly ;) Great video as always matey

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Johnny!
      I just channeled my inner "grumpy old man" which also happens to be my outer persona 😜

  • @zx85
    @zx85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This makes me feel much better about my bodges (the ones that can't be categorised as "repairs" 😁)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a service we provide 🤣

  • @burritocodes
    @burritocodes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, the fabled crispy banded resistor.
    If you consult the "Exotic Resistor Manual Volume 2 Revision 3 Sub-revision 7" you will find that a crispy band on a resistor indicates a resistance of anywhere between 0 ohms and into the hundreds of meg-ohms. You need to compare the darkness of the crispy band against the official chart to know the value. Alternatively, one can employ the use of a multi-meter, however, the ERMV2R3SR7 does caution against taking such extreme measures.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just found your comment on the suspect spam bin!
      Not sure what youtube found suspicious 😂

    • @burritocodes
      @burritocodes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Well, TH-cam isn't wrong for suspecting me of spam. I don't have any in the house, but I certainly could. TH-cam is just being cautious.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burritocodes it's better to be safe when dealing with highly processed tinned meats of questionable origins.

  • @RetroWorkshop
    @RetroWorkshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent job Lee! I've watched all the episodes, for some reason watching this one last. I can't believe all the mess under the ICs. Very enjoyable video series.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it 😁
      I have a new video coming soon™ about an Amstrad in a sorry condition.
      A good story to tell with this one too.

  • @OzRetrocomp
    @OzRetrocomp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoever it was that attacked that poor Speccy with a blowtorch makes me feel so much better about my own soldering skills, so I guess that's something. At least it's in the best possible hands now. 🙂 Can't wait for part 2!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really hard to know what happened to it. I'm sure it was worked on by multiple people, some of the work is reasonable. But someone got themselves into a mess, and instead of stopping and getting help they just went wild.
      Part 2 is well under way!

  • @JonathanAdamsGB
    @JonathanAdamsGB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quite amazing to see the evolutions of your knowledge and understanding in the experiences you've shared. Guided is one thing, but you've took the tools, resources and time and made your own style, work and system. Something as bad as this really highlights that journey! Look forward to Pt 2 😊

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yet another repair of a repair. Gotta love cleaning up behind idiots that certainly made everything WORSE.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fixing others mistakes is always a messy business.

  • @chaoticsystem2211
    @chaoticsystem2211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The missing keyboard seems to be an improvement...

  • @kayleas5328
    @kayleas5328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    by the looks of that spider mod, it looks like whoever did that mod wanted the benefits of a socket with the troubles of being soldered directly onto the board

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think this was one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" occasions.

  • @ProfsRetroFix
    @ProfsRetroFix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Found your channel through RMC and going through your back catalogue as it were! Watching this while I'm working, and I couldn't believe the repair of a perfectly working trace at 25:30 ! Who does that?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome cave dweller! 😁

  • @roxyknight4909
    @roxyknight4909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love you videos. You're so funny ... definitely adds to watchabillity of the videos

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awww, thank you Roxy! Thats very kind of you to say

  • @Retrocatone
    @Retrocatone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s very very bad! You did a already incredible job to this point, and I still don’t get it for these wires and not needed repairs. Seriously what the heck ? 😅😂

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish I knew!
      Wait till you see the rest! There's so much more. :D

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant video. just remember Its not Blue Tack, its "Smurf Poo"

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mark Fixes Stuff's crack team of legal experts will be burying me under a sea of litigation if I tread on his toes!

    • @SidebandSamurai
      @SidebandSamurai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Oh well it was fun to think about it.

  • @ezContents
    @ezContents 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooooh, a cliffhanger!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know. Felt a bit bad about that 😂 But everyone seems to be on board with it 😁

    • @ezContents
      @ezContents 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt It's ok. This will keep us on the edge of the seat. 🙂

  • @vanhetgoor
    @vanhetgoor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always be careful when resurrecting an old Spectrum from death. You never know what it is going to do. I have seen documentaries on television where humans were brought back to life and some of them had cravings for the flesh of healthy good looking teenagers. If a Spectrum is resurrected then maybe it starts cannibalizing other computers, laptops and tablets.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh no!
      What have I done!
      😱😱😱😱😱😱

  • @CheshireNoir
    @CheshireNoir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a state that board was in. I must comment your bodges were extremely neat at this point. (Foreshadowing?)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the end there was more bodge than board 🤣 It wasn't pretty!

  • @Daz555Daz
    @Daz555Daz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never solder after 9 pints of cider. That seems to be the lesson here.

  • @MrWaalkman
    @MrWaalkman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had days where I would have been much better off locking my soldering iron up for the day, but wow, just wow...

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣 Its a bit of a mess!

    • @MrWaalkman
      @MrWaalkman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt And an epic repair! I'd have given up and posted it on eBay as "Working when parked."

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha! It probably went through a few ebay auctions on its way to me!

  • @GianlucaRiccardi
    @GianlucaRiccardi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video.
    The mention of "dual spur coulomb" at 5:20 is asking to check links in the description, but I seem to miss it?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My deepest apologies. I have now added that link for JoulesperCoulomb's video.

    • @GianlucaRiccardi
      @GianlucaRiccardi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Lovely, thank You. I'm binge watching all the videos of this repair (and other videos of yours). Incredible but instructional and entertaining this repair. Great job Sir.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GianlucaRiccardi thank you! 😁

  • @LiquidSnakeSSJ4
    @LiquidSnakeSSJ4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonder if whoever attempted to fix this prior to you was using a soldering iron for the first time

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure! Wait till you see what else they did...

  • @jaycee1980
    @jaycee1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started watching this series.. im sure it's going to be "fun" :)
    Just so you know, the ZTX313 is not critical for the spider mod. A BC546 will work just fine

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Always useful info from you Peter! I'll make a note of that. Enjoy the carnage!

    • @jaycee1980
      @jaycee1980 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fact, most of the transistors in the Spectrum are not critical. The only exception really is the ZTX650 in the voltage converter circuit - ZTX653 is still made (just has a higher voltage rating) and is the only real replacement there.
      ZTX 313 and BC184 can be replaced by BC546. ZTX213 likewise by a BC556. The ZTX450 seen driving the speaker can be replaced with a BC337-40. Watch for different pinouts.

  • @natethefighter
    @natethefighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    False, I would absolutely watch two hours of this

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have 13 hours of raw footage that's just like this, except without the funny bits and special effects, and with a lot more "old man talking to himself and breaking wind"
      Maybe I should have that as a Patreon perk 🤔🤣

    • @Zahgurym
      @Zahgurym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MoreFunMakingIt a whole second channel with just the raw footage uncut would be epic. I would definitely watch atleast.
      Could call it "More Fun Making It Raw". 😆

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe that's something I would do in the future. Its still a lot of work, I'd still have to go through and make sure there were no personal details shown by accident etc.

    • @OzRetrocomp
      @OzRetrocomp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So it's not just me then. TBH I was a little disappointed that this episode was over so quickly! But at least we have more to look forward to.

  • @brendonelton
    @brendonelton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just subscribed, fantastic video!

  • @ropersonline
    @ropersonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:20: That user's username would be a camel-cased "joules per coulomb" = joules [see Wikipedia] per coulomb [see Wikipedia] = J/C.

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey that’s my old Speccy and no it’s no TypEx, that’s all I’m saying 😂😂😂

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      IT WAS YOU!!!

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoreFunMakingIt 😜I hope you washed your hands afterwards 😜especially since I have had this weird rash for the last 40 years in that area 🤪

  • @jasejj
    @jasejj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like one of mine...
    Tbh the way that board disintegrates has made me worry about the recap I'm about to attempt on my ish2!
    Amazing how b0rked a board can be while still looking reasonable from a cursory glance.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      They're so fragile. A good way to learn how to desolder super carefully!
      You should be fine with a recap. Watch for some of the holes in the heavy ground sections being tough to clear. You can always follow that solder and poke the leg of the new cap into the hole.
      Good luck!

  • @berm11
    @berm11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Men what a lot of issues 😅

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a family spectrum 48k with a output from the modulator that is black and white and distorted. Should I replace the modulator? Replace caps that are in it?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Modulator is probably fine. If it's a modern TV it's probably just struggling to tune in. The best thing to do is convert it to composite instead. Then if the picture is still bad you know you have a problem

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is that fancy device you plugged to the back of the spectrum?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a ZX Dandanator. They're a bit tricky to get hold of, the licence doesn't allow selling of them so you need to either make one yourself or get someone else to make it.
      Probably easier to buy a dedicated diagnostic cart. They're not too expensive on eBay.

  • @lubricatedgoat
    @lubricatedgoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's probably missing the point, but would it be better to yank all the components and solder them onto a brand new board? I see they're very inexpensive.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's exactly what I'm doing right now with two much less damaged boards.
      This one is more about the challenge.

    • @lubricatedgoat
      @lubricatedgoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Love it! Pure dedication, and I thank you in advance for my shot of vicarious dopamine when you succeed. Also looking forward to seeing the old-parts, new board :)

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It can clearly get infinitely worse.

  • @ronnyverminck2741
    @ronnyverminck2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you eventualy got it fixed?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! There's so much more wrong with it, you'll see in the next 2 episodes. Some of the things... You might see one in a bodged repair, but all of them is just bizarre.

  • @chaoticsystem2211
    @chaoticsystem2211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have a sofa :(

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moooooo

  • @KolliRail
    @KolliRail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow...