@@StarSCTEBunToaster Andy Martin has played on over 350 movie soundtracks including the trombone work at the start of monsters inc. He is a session legend as well as a top west coast big band jazz player. Very much the safest pair of hands you could get in that situation.
@@StarSCTEBunToaster technically Pixar, Disney just owns them But still, in Encanto they animated almost every single musical instrument correctly, so they can do it too.
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Not just the trombone, but actually all instruments are correctly animated. The first time I watched the movie, I got so glad to see the drums animation matching the song.
@@4guysinatub286 They did mostly point out the drums. For all you know, they know how to play the drums. When someone practices an instrument for that long, they can look at others play and instantly pick it up even if they've never done the song before. Who knows, maybe you are right.
Same. But not for the same reason. She made me play the drums for 45 min straight. No pause, no dropping the beat, no changing the beat, no using anything but base and snare for 45 min. I don't even play drums. She'd yell at me if I even thought of doing anything else but the basic beat. She's propably single handedly responsible to why most of my classmates chose to quit instruments.
@@nightorbit my band director would have been mad at everyone but would have also started teaching her personally after classes, my band director/music teacher was very much into looking for talented students and helping them hone their craft. my brother and i were among them, i learned violin while my brother learned the acoustic guitar, and she actually scouted us after we went for extra-curricular piano lessons as a club activity after school, we were slow at learning the piano so she had us try other instruments instead. unfortunately she passed away just a year later due to gross malnutrition (caused by an unverified illness).
Just in terms of the actual film. I love the fact that she stands up when she gets lost in her music. She could easily just sit there and play the sheet music, but once she loses herself she stands up to make use of her diaphragm subconsciously. Just a subtle use of physicality to indicate emotion. Man do I love Pixar.
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At least when they actually try. For every Soul, we get a Toy Story 4 Incredibles 2, Lightyear and the good dinasour and onward, was it? I know those crappy cheap messes pay for the good ones, but seriously, what was the last good Pixar movie before Soul, Coco? And we haven't gotten any good one after Soul. At this point they have as many crappy ones as hits.
Yeah .... They did not do motion capture. Or tracking. I am a 3D animator(don't bother looking at my TH-cam channel everything is private). Pixar doesn't do motion capture. What they do is referencing someone from multiple angles. If you are a animator with previous experience with an instrument the better, but if not you still study the movements you put the keyframes copping the timing of the reference, then you look at the arches you can exagerate, then add anticipations, the correct ease in, ease outs and that's it. You adjust the curves for the automatic in-betweening that Maya makes. Its a really well though and manual and suttle exaggeration of real life, motion capture can't do that
Fun fact: For the Disney theme intro, Pixar had an actual high school band perform it. It was so perfect, they had to re-record it, but make it purposefully bad.
@@minakiel2930 I was in middle school orchestra (first year) and our concerts were surprisingly good, granted, we were playing some fairly easy pieces, but it was really cool to see that we actually cared enough to make it good.
@@MarsheIIo That was my experience as well but it seems like it’s not the norm. We played in many competitions but were the only school in our category because of the difficult repertoire. The other schools would’ve done a great job at playing badly 💀
if someone did that to my middle school band back in the day, they would be the most popular person in the band. Which isn't that popular overall, but still
Trust me it happens lol, a girl who was in the same section as me got laughed at because she played the entire thing flawlessly. (They called her a music obsessed b*tch)
Of course it’s animated correctly. Pixar doesn’t mess around even in Coco when Miguel plays the guitar he’s playing the correct notes. Also in Ratatouille when Colette is showing Linguine how to properly cook, that is the proper way of how chefs work in the kitchen. Heck that scene is even shown in culinary schools
I love that not only can you tell the crew/animators cared about their work and put in the effort to actually animate all the music scenes correctly, but they’re also being shown appreciation for actually doing it properly I feel like animators don’t get enough credit so this just makes me really happy to see
Fun fact: when animating the piano keys, they had to create an entirely new computing system to calculate the weight of the piano players fingers in order to get the right sound. This along with a new hand tacking software to make it as accurate as possible.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa I’m not a huge computer head so I’m not sure, this info is from a behind the scenes I watched I’m an animation class I believe. Pixar and Disney often create their own animation software and mechanics to handle bigger tasks, but the nerds there are the best in the game and no doubt have the intelligence to do either.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa As a software developer, when we refer to a computing "system", we are referring to a suite of related software, not necessarily an Operating System (like Windows).
Is this any good if the story is not that great? Other than a few minority of people, no one would have cared about the piano weight and all but everyone cares about the story and other stuffs..not saying its not appreciable but disney movies are strictly for kids other than a few..
@@theresachacon1122 unless your one of *those* kids as a Bb Clarinet player, this is very true With Brass, they tend to forget that the mouthpiece is on your lips- And with Woodwind, they just inhale the mouthpiece, when the closest you ever come to doing so is when playing high notes, of which you have to bite down farther in the reed, but even then half way is the absolute max Pixar did so good with soul it’s amazing
@@plobclop I- you- huh-? With a flute your mouth doesn’t even touch the mouthpiece 💀 I think your brother was on something- Edit: my dumb brain didn’t see the other comment saying it was a recorder flute, I just thought of my immediate knowledge on flutes seeing as I’ve tried to play it multiple times :)) Edit 2: apparently I forgot how to spell (this is a 3rd place spelling bee winner… how tf did I get third-?)
Had to reupload due to some technical issues. Also I’m not sure why TH-cam is automatically disabling my comments again :(. UPDATE: It's because TH-cam thinks this video is endangering children? I guess the other videos similar to mine with thousands of views aren't endangering children?
well youtube is prettty darn low iq (read:stoo-pit) with censoring. they don't process report quickly and kept on disabling comments on a whim. there are videos where youtube just decided "you know what ? I'm gonna take away all the audio in the video", and the audio wasn't even copyrighted music or anytthing, all pure original from creators.
The only animation studio to care enough about their art to correctly animate instruments. They also got the guitars in Coco correct. Edit: WOW I made some people mad with my comment. I'm not gonna debate something over a comments section, but I will say that my point was about the studio as a whole, not the individual animators. If given the time and encouragment by the execs, I'm sure animators in more studios would have the same attention to detail.
@@inaseparatesky yes the music is amazing and the show is generally a good drama but its also sometimes slow and a bit boring but then… BAM AMAZING SOLO
@@PilotCharlesCalvin I'm not actually sure how accurate their instruments are, but I can't really think of too many examples of someone playing an instrument in a ghibli movie. To be fair I haven't seen one in years.
It doesn’t surprise me that Disney is so true to detail like this. Coco’s guitar playing was accurate even to the vibration frequency of the strings. In Soul they actually mapped out the movement of the tendons in John Baptiste’s (the musician who did most of the music in Soul) hands as he played piano so they could make sure it looked right animated onscreen. For all its faults, Disney sure puts in the work for the important details in a story.
I believe Pixar has almost always been the pioneer of 3D animation from a technical perspective. Though maybe they have fallen behind in originally of ideas or complexity of the story (To me, Elemental feels like the romantic plotline that was scapped from Zootopia), but Pixar walks out with new technology so other can jog.
This video is amazing! And I also loved the description. I'm going to use "I don't like taking responsibility for my own actions" for everything right now, for real
Pixar has always stated that they will never use motion capture. I don’t know if they’ve stayed true to this sentiment, but as far as I know they use reference video, photo, or animation to help with the animation, but never directly use motion capture. That’s what makes this so inspiring and incredible!
The reason for this is that the last time they used motion capture, the Academy denied the film from being nominated for Best Animated Picture (although I don't remember which film it was.)
@@ctyoung0271 they never used it, if i remember happy feet used mocap and won over ratatouliie which didnt have mocap and was just a better movie overall.
That makes sense, for an animated movie, you kind of want some elements of cartoon movement, and animators can convey body language in ways than real people have a hard time replicating (and vice versa).
i was always embarrassed of playing trombone it’s always felt like a "masculine" instrument and i never saw any female play it in my ensemble but this movie made me feel a little comfortable with playing it
I was the only tenor sax in band until I taught my friend to play it so she switched from clarinet. No instrument is masculine or feminine. True, most of our brass were boys but many of them were friends before band who wanted to hang out. The most notable trombone we had in middle school became a drummer in high school and was even better (he switched because of his friends being in percussion.) I think of him almost every time I see a trombone though. He only had a finger (technically two fused on one side) and a thumb on each hand and knowing he could play an instrument or two at such a young age for me really showed me how inclusive music can really be. It also cemented the reality of if someone really wants to accomplish something, nothing will stand in the way as long as the person themselves believes they can. Don't give up your instrument because you are worried about what it implies. Love the experience and if another instrument catches your eye, feel free to try it. I took piano lessons in elementary before I played tenor and when I stopped the latter, it was because I had no soul; I am a technical player, which doesn't work well with jazz.
When I was in band class the trombone player was a girl lol. The only other person I've seen play trombone in person was my friend will, and he had that perfect pitch thing that let him play and tune every instrument.
We've all had this moment once in our life OR will have it. That one moment where after years and years of practice and mastering our instrument, you take control and lose yourself in that moment and just sail with the notes. This movie emphasized it so well
Every movie production team that includes a trombone in a movie should now be told "'Soul' got it right. Please stop with holding it wrong and showing the instrument as no real player would ever play the instrument."
Pixar puts a lot of research and effort into making things like this accurate. It's this kind of attention to detail that makes Pixar even more awesome.
Pete Docter was very particular about getting Soul's musical scenes accurately, so they actually tracked jazz musicians and used it to animate the characters, and Jon Batiste, who wrote original compositions on the piano, actually played full sessions for their reference. It's remarkable the amount of effort they put into it really.
Kids (under 20) nowadays playing Trombone or Trumpet have my full respect!!!!! What an incredible instrument to choose! Such sass, power and voice! - hope to see more!❤
During Covid, my band class did a full complete analysis on the music and soundtrack of this movie, along with other movies, music, and video games. Just absolutely beautiful, it always amazes me when animators take the time to carefully craft the experience of their art to create an almost mirror image of life, but it is so beautiful on the screen it makes me so happy
I'm a musician myself and seeing her play her instrument with such passion and joy was a feeling I know too well and when she said she wanted to quit it made me so mad cause talent ane passion like that shouldn't ever be ignored, the way she stands up and closes her eyes every time she plays is amazing to watch
In animation we don't animate based on nothing, we always use reference. In a film environment like this for anything technically complicated we get people in and film high quality reference. For speaking / moving we usually film ourselves and use this as reference.
I like how people seem “surprised” when instruments in general are animated correctly. Like for this film, it’s like, the only thing that the animators have to get right lol Detail wise I mean
"the only thing the animators need to get right" I know you aren't a 3d guy but what the film does ain't easy by any means, they have to articulate the rig down to each finger joint 30 times per second of animation
my dad knows the guy who played double bass for souls and they filmed him as well during recording so they could copy his movements exactly. that's what they did for all the instruments
My guess is that they wrote a script that moves the slide within relation of what ever note is being played and then they cleaned up the animation. So much more efficient than actually animating the slide by hand.
As a fellow trombonist (in the making), I’m pleased to finally see that an animation studio FINALLY animated a trombone correctly and it wasn’t just slide between first and seventh positions 😂
I wanted to play the saxophone but I had to play the clarinet since my mom wanted me to. 😭 but honestly love how the notes are actually correct when you would play them with the trombone:D
Tbf, the character is like 12 years old. It could have been intended to show that while she's good, she's still learning and her technique still needs work.
i loved the music-centered parts of this movie, and really all of the segments in real life. the animation, emotions and storytelling were just on point! but the soul world bored me so much :(
I know. I play trombone for the school band and one of the other trombonists always slouches, bends over, and puffs their cheeks to play which ends up making it sound horrible, quiet, and unintellegable.
I've always wondered how you get to decide which notes to play when recreating a passage that they get wrong since only the position is clear and several notes can be selected on each position I know there are less notes available in the very low register but if it's mid or upper then what's the criteria?
The fact that 99% of people just think you suck/are annoying/being weird is also accurate for musicians. Music is only appreciated when it's listened to. Sometimes it's like shoving paintings infront of blind people.
It’s a technique called rotoscoping. When done right, it can make musical scenes look incredible. There’s this anime called Kids on the Slope that does rotoscoping, and the animation on the instruments is fantastic.
Pixar does their research! I remember watching a special about Cars and how they picked Mater's rust to be a desert rust rather than a coastal rust. They really put in the effort and it shows!
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Andy Martin was the trombone player for the movie Soul. They let him improvise and they precisely matched the animation to his actual movements.
woah that’s so cool that they let him improvise; i wouldn’t expect that from disney since they’re so strict and corporate and stuff.
@@StarSCTEBunToaster Andy Martin has played on over 350 movie soundtracks including the trombone work at the start of monsters inc. He is a session legend as well as a top west coast big band jazz player. Very much the safest pair of hands you could get in that situation.
Hoyt Curtin's Johnny Quest brass section
They did the same with Coco - filmed a professional guitarist playing the songs and then copied the finger movements when animating
@@StarSCTEBunToaster technically Pixar, Disney just owns them
But still, in Encanto they animated almost every single musical instrument correctly, so they can do it too.
Not just the trombone, but actually all instruments are correctly animated. The first time I watched the movie, I got so glad to see the drums animation matching the song.
they filmed the musicians while they were recording so they could get it right, my dad knows the double bassist from soul
@@fnibbit ok.
@@fnibbit that’s pretty dope!
Bro no need to lie. Its inhuman to visibly match noises in an amimated movie on your first viewing.
@@4guysinatub286 They did mostly point out the drums. For all you know, they know how to play the drums. When someone practices an instrument for that long, they can look at others play and instantly pick it up even if they've never done the song before. Who knows, maybe you are right.
of course they got it right, the whole movie made insane progress in the field of animated instruments
Ikr
It all started with Coco.
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@@warri0r624 thanks
@@warri0r624 bro I thought you just complimented yourself then thanked yourself u till I realised u 2 just have the same pfp
My band director would probably be more mad that the kids stopped playing rather than made fun of her lol
My band director would be equally mad
Same. But not for the same reason. She made me play the drums for 45 min straight. No pause, no dropping the beat, no changing the beat, no using anything but base and snare for 45 min. I don't even play drums. She'd yell at me if I even thought of doing anything else but the basic beat. She's propably single handedly responsible to why most of my classmates chose to quit instruments.
@@nightorbit my band director would have been mad at everyone but would have also started teaching her personally after classes, my band director/music teacher was very much into looking for talented students and helping them hone their craft. my brother and i were among them, i learned violin while my brother learned the acoustic guitar, and she actually scouted us after we went for extra-curricular piano lessons as a club activity after school, we were slow at learning the piano so she had us try other instruments instead. unfortunately she passed away just a year later due to gross malnutrition (caused by an unverified illness).
I know mine would.
God bless, Mr. Gorby.
Fr same
As a jazz trombonist, this makes me so happy and their spotlight on trombone made me so happy as well. They even got the scoops!
The fact they got the scoops were impressive tbh. Trombone finally getting more recognition in the film industry makes me joyous
no one cares tbh
@@Viretti
@@NDTimmy_0to be actually honest, there's at least two comments before you (that you're responding to) showing that they care.
I started band this year and play trombone and I wanna be a jazz trombonist :D
@@NDTimmy_0i care. you must be a fun person to talk to :)
Just in terms of the actual film. I love the fact that she stands up when she gets lost in her music. She could easily just sit there and play the sheet music, but once she loses herself she stands up to make use of her diaphragm subconsciously. Just a subtle use of physicality to indicate emotion.
Man do I love Pixar.
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yess! i totaly get that
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Yeah in a way I do that too when I'm singing. Such a beautiful feeling. Nice to see it in a movie like that 🥰
At least when they actually try. For every Soul, we get a Toy Story 4 Incredibles 2, Lightyear and the good dinasour and onward, was it? I know those crappy cheap messes pay for the good ones, but seriously, what was the last good Pixar movie before Soul, Coco? And we haven't gotten any good one after Soul. At this point they have as many crappy ones as hits.
Soul was very precise on musical instruments, I think they did tracking or just copied an actual trombone player
I think they did both I could be totally wrong though
I think they used motion capture for scenes that involved instruments, that or Disney has pretty talented animators.
@@MFS_Is_His_Own i mean, they did make Beauty and The Beast, so most likely both
Yeah .... They did not do motion capture. Or tracking. I am a 3D animator(don't bother looking at my TH-cam channel everything is private). Pixar doesn't do motion capture. What they do is referencing someone from multiple angles. If you are a animator with previous experience with an instrument the better, but if not you still study the movements you put the keyframes copping the timing of the reference, then you look at the arches you can exagerate, then add anticipations, the correct ease in, ease outs and that's it. You adjust the curves for the automatic in-betweening that Maya makes. Its a really well though and manual and suttle exaggeration of real life, motion capture can't do that
@@angelharris3727 O
Fun fact: For the Disney theme intro, Pixar had an actual high school band perform it. It was so perfect, they had to re-record it, but make it purposefully bad.
High school bands are underrated.
they should’ve asked a middle school lol
@@alex_exists My husband was in our high school marching band. Seriously talented groups of kids that really aren't given enough credit
@@minakiel2930 I was in middle school orchestra (first year) and our concerts were surprisingly good, granted, we were playing some fairly easy pieces, but it was really cool to see that we actually cared enough to make it good.
@@MarsheIIo That was my experience as well but it seems like it’s not the norm. We played in many competitions but were the only school in our category because of the difficult repertoire. The other schools would’ve done a great job at playing badly 💀
it makes me so happy she loves what shes doing and it makes me so sad that she keeps being discouraged by others
As a trombone player, ditto
Just like real life
00:18 kids being like HAHA! YOU'RE GOOD AT YOUR INSTRUMENT!
I see at the top 😭
Me: Yeah and that's why all of yall trash
That's kids for you
@@bellingtoned “I don’t like your skin color” - a 4th grader that somehow got my number
@@Niko_Bellic2 another good example
Soul is one of the most detailed films in the Pixar era, it's obvious that they were gonna animated it right
Yeah, super sad that it didn't get nearly as much attention as other Disney movies like Luca, Encanto, Turning Red, etc. Soul is my favorite.
@@tatteryt Yeah, it had more _Soul_ put to it.
@@goldfish425 NO SHUT UP YOU MADE ME LAUGH
@@goldfish425 👏🏼👏🏼😭😂
@@tatteryt It got a ton of awards, actually. I think it got a lot of attention
surprises me that the kids laughed at her for playing her instrument better than all of them lmao
EDIT: I get it, kids are cruel
if someone did that to my middle school band back in the day, they would be the most popular person in the band. Which isn't that popular overall, but still
She slayed
Trust me it happens lol, a girl who was in the same section as me got laughed at because she played the entire thing flawlessly. (They called her a music obsessed b*tch)
@@cupio-stardust what the fuck
@@cupio-stardustyikes! they sound envious af
It’s Pixar! Of course it’s accurate with there amazing animation
Most Pixar animated instruments are inaccurate… watch any of them playing piano
@@dandogamez yeah, but not in Soul
@@gerrard1144 yeah Soul was definitely an exception
@@dandogamez almost like the entire movie is based on a piano and finding soul in music
@@HomeTVPS5 Then there's Sing by Illumination. *Sigh*
Of course it’s animated correctly. Pixar doesn’t mess around even in Coco when Miguel plays the guitar he’s playing the correct notes. Also in Ratatouille when Colette is showing Linguine how to properly cook, that is the proper way of how chefs work in the kitchen. Heck that scene is even shown in culinary schools
Me wondering if the stick he is pushing goes into his MOUTH??
Doesnt
@@alex.k6710what??? no why would you think that lol, it’s an attachment kinda
@@FunniEmi uh like a folding TV stick mechanism?
@@alex.k6710 ??? you’re comparing a tv to a trombone
I love that not only can you tell the crew/animators cared about their work and put in the effort to actually animate all the music scenes correctly, but they’re also being shown appreciation for actually doing it properly
I feel like animators don’t get enough credit so this just makes me really happy to see
They wouldn't have bothered otherwise.. no ROI
Fun fact: when animating the piano keys, they had to create an entirely new computing system to calculate the weight of the piano players fingers in order to get the right sound. This along with a new hand tacking software to make it as accurate as possible.
Computing system as in a program or did they seriously create a whole new OS??
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa I’m not a huge computer head so I’m not sure, this info is from a behind the scenes I watched I’m an animation class I believe. Pixar and Disney often create their own animation software and mechanics to handle bigger tasks, but the nerds there are the best in the game and no doubt have the intelligence to do either.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa As a software developer, when we refer to a computing "system", we are referring to a suite of related software, not necessarily an Operating System (like Windows).
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa it is called an algorithm. as in, they created a new algorithm to calculate movement.
Is this any good if the story is not that great? Other than a few minority of people, no one would have cared about the piano weight and all but everyone cares about the story and other stuffs..not saying its not appreciable but disney movies are strictly for kids other than a few..
The most occurring problem I’ve seen with animated brass instruments is the musician basically swallowing the mouthpiece
That's only for reed instruments and even then, they don't put the entire mouthpiece in their mouths.
@@theresachacon1122 unless your one of *those* kids as a Bb Clarinet player, this is very true
With Brass, they tend to forget that the mouthpiece is on your lips-
And with Woodwind, they just inhale the mouthpiece, when the closest you ever come to doing so is when playing high notes, of which you have to bite down farther in the reed, but even then half way is the absolute max
Pixar did so good with soul it’s amazing
@@berries.0f.blu3 my brother used to put half of the mouthpiece of his flute inside his mouth
@DOLLHAUS 🎗 it was a recorder flute, so the one you blow directly into:'). In his defense, he was a beginner but still lmao right
@@plobclop I- you- huh-? With a flute your mouth doesn’t even touch the mouthpiece 💀
I think your brother was on something-
Edit: my dumb brain didn’t see the other comment saying it was a recorder flute, I just thought of my immediate knowledge on flutes seeing as I’ve tried to play it multiple times :))
Edit 2: apparently I forgot how to spell (this is a 3rd place spelling bee winner… how tf did I get third-?)
Had to reupload due to some technical issues. Also I’m not sure why TH-cam is automatically disabling my comments again :(. UPDATE: It's because TH-cam thinks this video is endangering children? I guess the other videos similar to mine with thousands of views aren't endangering children?
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all children's content gets comments disabled
Oof sorry about that, I hope you get real big some day so you don't have to deal with these kinds of stupid issues.
There are some trombone players who might agree that trombone can be hazardous to one's health.
well youtube is prettty darn low iq (read:stoo-pit) with censoring. they don't process report quickly and kept on disabling comments on a whim. there are videos where youtube just decided "you know what ? I'm gonna take away all the audio in the video", and the audio wasn't even copyrighted music or anytthing, all pure original from creators.
0:24 they give her chipmunks charms tho
Charms?
@@evieoconnor7556 cheeks
0:08 Sounds like a sports car
The only animation studio to care enough about their art to correctly animate instruments. They also got the guitars in Coco correct.
Edit: WOW I made some people mad with my comment. I'm not gonna debate something over a comments section, but I will say that my point was about the studio as a whole, not the individual animators. If given the time and encouragment by the execs, I'm sure animators in more studios would have the same attention to detail.
@@inaseparatesky yes the music is amazing and the show is generally a good drama but its also sometimes slow and a bit boring but then… BAM AMAZING SOLO
what abt studio ghibli
@@PilotCharlesCalvin I'm not actually sure how accurate their instruments are, but I can't really think of too many examples of someone playing an instrument in a ghibli movie. To be fair I haven't seen one in years.
Idk what studio it was but kids on the slope is the best animation of instruments ive seen
I mean this movie was about music so no shit lmao
It doesn’t surprise me that Disney is so true to detail like this. Coco’s guitar playing was accurate even to the vibration frequency of the strings. In Soul they actually mapped out the movement of the tendons in John Baptiste’s (the musician who did most of the music in Soul) hands as he played piano so they could make sure it looked right animated onscreen. For all its faults, Disney sure puts in the work for the important details in a story.
no they dint
I think it’s really important to note that although Pixar is part of Disney, this is Pixar’s stellar work, not Disney’s.
john baptiste??? thats crazy my section leader has a flute made by him/his company
I believe Pixar has almost always been the pioneer of 3D animation from a technical perspective. Though maybe they have fallen behind in originally of ideas or complexity of the story (To me, Elemental feels like the romantic plotline that was scapped from Zootopia), but Pixar walks out with new technology so other can jog.
Disney couldn't choreograph a fight to save their stocks in the market.
I mean, it's Pixar what did you expect? That's what they do, I bet cooks feel the same way about Ratatouille
Chefs? Lol
@@Auto718fan No cookers
@@Auto718fan sorry dude, english is not my first language, idk if it's right to say cookers or not
@@9-VoltGaming
The correct term is chef. A chef is a person that makes food.
@@9-VoltGaming A cooker is another word for a stove
This video is amazing! And I also loved the description. I'm going to use "I don't like taking responsibility for my own actions" for everything right now, for real
I feel so happy knowing at least one movie got the trombone right as a trombone player
Pixar has always stated that they will never use motion capture. I don’t know if they’ve stayed true to this sentiment, but as far as I know they use reference video, photo, or animation to help with the animation, but never directly use motion capture. That’s what makes this so inspiring and incredible!
The reason for this is that the last time they used motion capture, the Academy denied the film from being nominated for Best Animated Picture (although I don't remember which film it was.)
@@ctyoung0271 they never used it, if i remember happy feet used mocap and won over ratatouliie which didnt have mocap and was just a better movie overall.
That makes sense, for an animated movie, you kind of want some elements of cartoon movement, and animators can convey body language in ways than real people have a hard time replicating (and vice versa).
@@bigtonybruiser RATATATOULIIE LOST TO FCKING HAPPY FEET!? OMG THE LACK OF RESPECT
@@antoniomv9444 It won against cars. Ratatouille won the year after.
i was always embarrassed of playing trombone it’s always felt like a "masculine" instrument and i never saw any female play it in my ensemble but this movie made me feel a little comfortable with playing it
masculine probably wasn’t the best word to use, but i couldn’t think of anything else.. ive always seen trombones be associated with guys
That's good! The trombone is a beautiful instrument.
I was the only tenor sax in band until I taught my friend to play it so she switched from clarinet. No instrument is masculine or feminine. True, most of our brass were boys but many of them were friends before band who wanted to hang out.
The most notable trombone we had in middle school became a drummer in high school and was even better (he switched because of his friends being in percussion.) I think of him almost every time I see a trombone though. He only had a finger (technically two fused on one side) and a thumb on each hand and knowing he could play an instrument or two at such a young age for me really showed me how inclusive music can really be.
It also cemented the reality of if someone really wants to accomplish something, nothing will stand in the way as long as the person themselves believes they can. Don't give up your instrument because you are worried about what it implies. Love the experience and if another instrument catches your eye, feel free to try it. I took piano lessons in elementary before I played tenor and when I stopped the latter, it was because I had no soul; I am a technical player, which doesn't work well with jazz.
When I was in band class the trombone player was a girl lol. The only other person I've seen play trombone in person was my friend will, and he had that perfect pitch thing that let him play and tune every instrument.
It’s because males have larger lungs than females, but my brother’s old marching band had a few girls doing the wind instruments too.
Finally, justice to the trombone!!! Honestly one of the most underrated instruments in brass.
What about euphonium?
Baritone/euphonium is the only underrated brass instrument
@@tren7730 yeah almost nobody knows about them 😔
trombone is literally overrated in brass but ok lol
@@ptyw. lol I don't know what your on cuz there are 3 trombones in our low brass section and I'm one of them-
your work is not only informative but also visually stunning!
We've all had this moment once in our life OR will have it. That one moment where after years and years of practice and mastering our instrument, you take control and lose yourself in that moment and just sail with the notes. This movie emphasized it so well
Every movie production team that includes a trombone in a movie should now be told "'Soul' got it right. Please stop with holding it wrong and showing the instrument as no real player would ever play the instrument."
This makes me super happy. Much respect to pixar!!
I feel like soul is one of those situations where it is almost mandatory that a small detail like this is done correctly
Pixar puts a lot of research and effort into making things like this accurate. It's this kind of attention to detail that makes Pixar even more awesome.
At least a movie that knows every of their moves they added every details
i'm proud of the movie creators
Pete Docter was very particular about getting Soul's musical scenes accurately, so they actually tracked jazz musicians and used it to animate the characters, and Jon Batiste, who wrote original compositions on the piano, actually played full sessions for their reference. It's remarkable the amount of effort they put into it really.
Kids (under 20) nowadays playing Trombone or Trumpet have my full respect!!!!! What an incredible instrument to choose! Such sass, power and voice! - hope to see more!❤
They be the most annoying kids tho💀
Thank You!!! I am a 16-year-old who plays trombone, mallets, and piano by the way!
Why thanks! Currently a 14 year old trumpet player
Learning to play trumpet, thanks!
13 year old trumpeter here! Thanks for the respect, it comes to you as well!
During Covid, my band class did a full complete analysis on the music and soundtrack of this movie, along with other movies, music, and video games. Just absolutely beautiful, it always amazes me when animators take the time to carefully craft the experience of their art to create an almost mirror image of life, but it is so beautiful on the screen it makes me so happy
Damn you’re in school band? My condolences
the way they did everything perfectly, the animation paired with the music, the positioning of the instrument, and literally everything overall.
I'm a musician myself and seeing her play her instrument with such passion and joy was a feeling I know too well and when she said she wanted to quit it made me so mad cause talent ane passion like that shouldn't ever be ignored, the way she stands up and closes her eyes every time she plays is amazing to watch
Disney has been proud to show of their new instrument tracking and water tech lately, and both are looking beautiful!..
Pixar
This video got me teary eyed and idky. I’m clapping right now. It’s all beautiful!
In animation we don't animate based on nothing, we always use reference. In a film environment like this for anything technically complicated we get people in and film high quality reference. For speaking / moving we usually film ourselves and use this as reference.
This made a serious impact on animation of instruments tbh
And that's what I call taking your job seriously
I like how people seem “surprised” when instruments in general are animated correctly. Like for this film, it’s like, the only thing that the animators have to get right lol
Detail wise I mean
Well, it's just that many people who happen to be executives or directors didn't care about these details, so there you go
Because a more often than not , the animation doesn't actually match what is being played...
"the only thing the animators need to get right" I know you aren't a 3d guy but what the film does ain't easy by any means, they have to articulate the rig down to each finger joint 30 times per second of animation
U don't know what you're talking about lol
making it sound easier than it is
The girl who voiced Connie goes to my middle school!! She’s actually super nice and was ‘discovered’ at a school play.
my dad knows the guy who played double bass for souls and they filmed him as well during recording so they could copy his movements exactly. that's what they did for all the instruments
They put so much care into the animations for the instruments that it’s insane
I love that an animated film is much more accurate depicting musical instruments than live action…
Fun fact: they actually had several musicians of different variety play and be recorded on video so the animators could make 3D renders for it
Anyone else get uncanny vibes to how oddly realistic this movie is?
FORRRREALL it’s actually so relatable I cried
My guess is that they wrote a script that moves the slide within relation of what ever note is being played and then they cleaned up the animation. So much more efficient than actually animating the slide by hand.
got damn that's amazing!! I loved the way they animated the piano scenes. absolutely mind blowing.
me: *hears trombone*
me: don't you dare think about it
brain: what's a skeletons favorite instrument?
me: i hate you, brain
The growl on it when she stands up sends a chill down my spine every time! Soul is so underrated
I am glad they did all the instruments accurate. They love music.
That’s the crazy thing with soul, everything, even during Joe Gardner’s “zone” improvisation, was animated perfectly down to the frame.
A movie about music can’t be wrong about how instruments work
we know he's been playing for hours when u see the liquid air
i just love soul so much, they actually cared enough to match the sound and instruments 😣
As a fellow trombonist (in the making), I’m pleased to finally see that an animation studio FINALLY animated a trombone correctly and it wasn’t just slide between first and seventh positions 😂
Pixar animators spent weeks filming at Berkeley college to get all fingerings and slide positions accurate
On faster passages the animation lags behind, but ti still gets there. Better than 99% of musical animation.
it's amazing how precise the movie is
each note matches perfectly
I wanted to play the saxophone but I had to play the clarinet since my mom wanted me to. 😭 but honestly love how the notes are actually correct when you would play them with the trombone:D
They animated the trombone correctly but you are not supposed to puff your cheeks.
Tbf, the character is like 12 years old. It could have been intended to show that while she's good, she's still learning and her technique still needs work.
@@BambiTrout yeah that's true bro
i loved the music-centered parts of this movie, and really all of the segments in real life. the animation, emotions and storytelling were just on point! but the soul world bored me so much :(
Yeah the "real life" world is more interesting than the soul world
What she’s doing wrong is puffing her face (unless her face is just like that)
I know. I play trombone for the school band and one of the other trombonists always slouches, bends over, and puffs their cheeks to play which ends up making it sound horrible, quiet, and unintellegable.
exaggerated for the cartoon effect maybe
waiting for an animated film that depicts playing drums correctly
This movie
I love Soul and I hope they make a sequel
0:54 i call this "the flabbergaster."
0:08 that was schnasty omg
First
second ig
He's so good doing the trumpet! Keep up the great work!!
She stands up when she gets lost in the music. Such an amazing detail :D
I play Trombone myself and the fact they got the sound and movement right is amazing, PLUS THEY EVEN HAD HER ASSEMBLE IT CORRECTLY!
I guess you could say this movie has a lot of SOUL put into it.
The only thing that’s wrong for the Thromebone is that your cheeks can’t be puffy
Unless you're circular breathing, but yeah, she doesn't really look to be doing that though
I can’t beleive you can just mimic it like that! Cool man
I am glad that they finally animated whatever instruments in this movie :)
The least I would expect from pixar, really.
This detail makes the movie 2x better, knowing that these animators have an actual musical taste and good attention to detail
It's a Pixar movie about jazz. Of course they were meticulous in animating the instruments.
I just got chosen to play the trombone in band! I'm really nervous bc I never please before:)
Im happy to see a movie with correctly animated instruments
I've always wondered how you get to decide which notes to play when recreating a passage that they get wrong since only the position is clear and several notes can be selected on each position
I know there are less notes available in the very low register but if it's mid or upper then what's the criteria?
what song is this in the 0:29 ?
The fact that 99% of people just think you suck/are annoying/being weird is also accurate for musicians.
Music is only appreciated when it's listened to. Sometimes it's like shoving paintings infront of blind people.
Most people do not care that much about music. Just singing and poetry.
Every band i have been in, everyone loves the trombonist, and they are typically pretty high on the social ladder.
Bro i just realized that the music class teacher is a thin Big Smoke.
They look nothing alike other than being black lol
@@ibrahimalee23 just make him fat, and check again
I know it’s not the same movie, but in the Bonus videos of Coco, they showed how they animated the guitar playing scenes by copying the musicians!
It’s a technique called rotoscoping. When done right, it can make musical scenes look incredible. There’s this anime called Kids on the Slope that does rotoscoping, and the animation on the instruments is fantastic.
@@Caddynars i didn’t know that! Thanks for the info.
So, is it accurate?
This whole movie has accurate animation. You can look at both screens at the same fime
0:44 finally
The animators for soul took great care to make sure that the instruments were as accurate as possible. It’s part of why the movie is so brilliant.
That starts made me think of blackops juggernog
I play trombone
Me too
@@funfinyt nice
That'll make us three
@@watermelone_man make that 4
@@pintobeani5361 that will make 5
Of course they’re gonna animate the music correctly, it’s literally one of the main focuses of the movie!!
She made a mistake, you cnat puff your cheeks when you’re playing
The absolute beauty of rotoscoping
Pixar does their research! I remember watching a special about Cars and how they picked Mater's rust to be a desert rust rather than a coastal rust. They really put in the effort and it shows!
Yes. The animation and the movements match perfectly. Thank you very much for sharing. Guess who is going to watch this movie within some minutes. 🤟🏼😁