Here's my breakdown of the Jokic and Giannis debate. Giannis is better at - rim attacking/ driving - volume scoring - all around defense (perimeter/rim) - putting other team in foul trouble Jokic is better at - post play - scoring efficiency all around - shooting - rebounding - passing and playmaking - basketball IQ - screening - clutchness and takeover of games Giannis is the best transition player in the league, Jokic is the best half court player in the league. In the regular season Giannis is slighlty better and in the playoffs Jokic is a bit better. The reason why I lean toward Jokic are four reasons : 1) Giannis has overall less competition at his position (Banchero, Markannen, Siakam). Jokic has Embiid, AD (who usually plays centre besides the bubble), Towns, Adebayo, Sabonis, etc. 2) the conference difficulty is staggering: Giannis gets to play weak teams like the Wizards, Pistons, Hornets multiple times in a season and boost win records. In the West legends like Curry and Lebron could miss the playoffs based on the amount of great teams. 3) Jokic has never underechieved in a playoff series. The Bucks was the first seed and the favourites to win the East in 19', 20', 23' and lost shockingly to Toronto, Miami and Miami. Jokic never underachieved in a similar fashion. 4) the best players Giannis ever beat in the playoffs are KD, Booker, young Tatum, Derozan and Chris Paul. Jokic has beaten Kawhi, Dame, Donovan Mitchell, Paul George, Booker, Durant, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Anthony Edwards, Lebron James. (This includes dpoy candidates in AD, Gobert and Bam).
You blew my mind with this explanation so much so that I think I now comfortably have Jokić at 1 and Giannis at 2… I agree with EVERYTHING you’ve said, and love how you laid it out bc some things I didn’t think about like point 3
He definitely deserved MVP the year they won the championship but he didn’t get it because the media made it their mission not to vote for him after they lost in the bubble! Even the last 2 years he played at an MVP level on both sides of the floor! Last year he did something that has never been done in NBA history and still wasn’t in the top 3 in MVP votes smh the amount of disrespect he receives is crazy to me!
Facts it’s like they got tired of Gianni’s like took him out of the equation Gianni’s won more games when jokic was the 6th oh they said it because Murray was hurt but when Gianni’s was dealing with Middleton out his second best player and he still having his team a top 3 seed the criteria changes when it come to Gianni’s case dude should at least have 3 mvp right now maybe for 2021 he should have won it and 2022
I disagree, usually the 3-5 MVP guys show themselves pretty early, you just gotta be right with regard to who will keep it up throughout the year and I think giannis will
I don't necessarily take issue with Jokic getting all those MVPs. I don't think Giannis should have come in third after Jokic and Embiid for those MVPs. And I think future old school fans will be wondering why anybody would have taken Joel over Giannis.
I can agree with this.. as much as I like Joel’s game, I hate his attitude toward it.. Giannis is a put your head down, work and no excuses no matter what kind of guy and I LOVE that. I can say I don’t take too much issue w Jok, but I do think Giannis deserves a third one fs
@@TrillBuckets well he is better on defense he attracts defenders on offense he scores over everyone he is the most dominant player in transitions 6 seasons now he is more dominant than shaq
Facts and sadly People ignore and even worse agree and support it internally but like... What?? Added a 50% midrange while taking nothing from his driving and also adding a new level on his playmaking is wild
Here's my breakdown of the Jokic and Giannis debate.
Giannis is better at
- rim attacking/ driving
- volume scoring
- all around defense (perimeter/rim)
- putting other team in foul trouble
Jokic is better at
- post play
- scoring efficiency all around
- shooting
- rebounding
- passing and playmaking
- basketball IQ
- screening
- clutchness and takeover of games
Giannis is the best transition player in the league, Jokic is the best half court player in the league.
In the regular season Giannis is slighlty better and in the playoffs Jokic is a bit better.
The reason why I lean toward Jokic are four reasons :
1) Giannis has overall less competition at his position (Banchero, Markannen, Siakam).
Jokic has Embiid, AD (who usually plays centre besides the bubble), Towns, Adebayo, Sabonis, etc.
2) the conference difficulty is staggering: Giannis gets to play weak teams like the Wizards, Pistons, Hornets multiple times in a season and boost win records. In the West legends like Curry and Lebron could miss the playoffs based on the amount of great teams.
3) Jokic has never underechieved in a playoff series. The Bucks was the first seed and the favourites to win the East in 19', 20', 23' and lost shockingly to Toronto, Miami and Miami.
Jokic never underachieved in a similar fashion.
4) the best players Giannis ever beat in the playoffs are KD, Booker, young Tatum, Derozan and Chris Paul.
Jokic has beaten Kawhi, Dame, Donovan Mitchell, Paul George, Booker, Durant, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Anthony Edwards, Lebron James. (This includes dpoy candidates in AD, Gobert and Bam).
You blew my mind with this explanation so much so that I think I now comfortably have Jokić at 1 and Giannis at 2… I agree with EVERYTHING you’ve said, and love how you laid it out bc some things I didn’t think about like point 3
He definitely deserved MVP the year they won the championship but he didn’t get it because the media made it their mission not to vote for him after they lost in the bubble! Even the last 2 years he played at an MVP level on both sides of the floor! Last year he did something that has never been done in NBA history and still wasn’t in the top 3 in MVP votes smh the amount of disrespect he receives is crazy to me!
I couldn’t have said it better myself and this is coming from someone who LOVES LOVES jokic.. Giannis is disrespected and I don’t get why
Facts it’s like they got tired of Gianni’s like took him out of the equation Gianni’s won more games when jokic was the 6th oh they said it because Murray was hurt but when Gianni’s was dealing with Middleton out his second best player and he still having his team a top 3 seed the criteria changes when it come to Gianni’s case dude should at least have 3 mvp right now maybe for 2021 he should have won it and 2022
MVP discussions shouldn't start till at least after the all Star break, it's just too dang early for this.
I disagree, usually the 3-5 MVP guys show themselves pretty early, you just gotta be right with regard to who will keep it up throughout the year and I think giannis will
I don't necessarily take issue with Jokic getting all those MVPs. I don't think Giannis should have come in third after Jokic and Embiid for those MVPs.
And I think future old school fans will be wondering why anybody would have taken Joel over Giannis.
I can agree with this.. as much as I like Joel’s game, I hate his attitude toward it.. Giannis is a put your head down, work and no excuses no matter what kind of guy and I LOVE that. I can say I don’t take too much issue w Jok, but I do think Giannis deserves a third one fs
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Oh yeah, Giannis is my favorite NBA player! He’s the reason I started watching the NBA again.
No giannis was definitely better than jokic
And is better
I think it’s subjective based on preference tbh
Facts! Giannis Dominates both sides of the floor
@@TrillBuckets well he is better on defense he attracts defenders on offense he scores over everyone he is the most dominant player in transitions 6 seasons now he is more dominant than shaq
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Facts and sadly People ignore and even worse agree and support it internally but like... What?? Added a 50% midrange while taking nothing from his driving and also adding a new level on his playmaking is wild
I love the content but say princes name right please lmao
My bad lol how do I say it properly, I usually read the names, I don’t really listen to announcers and such 🥲
It’s pronounced Tore-Ian