key 10s all healer is good, but I get your point. The problem starts at 13s above where you only see disc, shaman and some MW. the rest don't even appear. That's horrible balancing problem.
I don't actually have one! I'm using standard addons to support gameplay like Deadly Boss Mods, Raider.io, Details, etc... But I don't have a UI overhaul addon. Just standard Blizzard UI that I've moved around using the "Edit Mode" feature in the menu
My big issue is we aren't even anywhere near meta, so why are we getting any Nerf to begin with. God dang, resto shamans rolling up this entire aeason have yet to see a direct healing nerf to any of their healing spells.
Use it on CD. The Sacred Shield should be used when someone is gonna need healing, but otherwise just use them on CD. You don't ever want both charges of Sacred Weapon/Shield available, always be using one of them.
time to reroll/respec! Holy shock is just a holy power generator ,it barely pushes health bars. Also we are losing tier set and shock/wog buff. But we need to do testing to PTR to see how it feels
I been playing Holy Paladin HotS for over a week now, and enjoying the casting with mild mix of melee. 617, and healed a few 7s so far and a bunch of 6s and enjoying it. I'm planning to main holy pally for our guild in raid for s2.
NW +10 isn't healing hungry. I healed a 14 stonevault and everyone said my healing bursts were way behind my own disc priest. I don't even want to think about completing my key of 14 COT this week.
It is for lots of people. A +10 for a huge chunk of the player base is a big deal. Most player won't ever see a +12. I understand your perspective here, but I'm trying to showcase this build for the larger audience and help people that way. I'll have to test this out once I get to 14's lol. I'm at 11's right now, gotta get way more gear, etc.
I understand your opinion and also liked the video, but you saying that a Mythic +10 is a big deal? Sorry, but I started playing as hpal in tww, and I got +10 in all dungeons pretty easily. The problem starts above that, the class doesn’t deliver enough healing for a +12 or higher. You need to be really well-geared and have an excellent team to make it work. The class is terrible and will remain so, and of course, no one will ever see a +12 hpal. The class doesn’t heal enough, and no one will accept you in a pug because it’s in such a bad state. Accepting a Holy Paladin in a higher key as a pug is a shot in the foot
@kakuzo44 I've done 3 +12s already on H Pally... I agree it's a tough healer to take into the higher keys, 100%, but it can be done and it's not that bad. My comments about +10s are to recognize a large group of the player base that isn't as quick to push through keys as you or me... Those players wanting to try Holy Pally should feel like they can do it and not be discouraged from playing simply because people think "not viable" in those keys
The problem is people don't want to cast and all of these changes minus the light smith changes point towards moving towards a more caster centric play style
Them leaning towards a more hard cast playstyle what a disgrace. Buffing holy light and flash of light why? I never even use them. I hate using holy light and flash of light it just feels janky. To be honest I’m not sure what they are going for but I thought it was playing great this season I’m not sure why they are making so many changes I been doing +10s No problem. It’s felt fantastic.
It really won't matter tbh. Holy Light and Flash of Light are spells you can use in raid and basically no where else. The Melee style is still very strong and will continue to define Holy Pally.
@@ZucoWoW dude have you ever even used paladin in raid ? What are you even saying? I have 99 parses on mythic bosses and I never ever used a single flash or holy in any shit boss, mythic+ is even worse u can’t cast holy light or flash of light beside DF holy light buffed that’s the only time and most of it you skipping. And showing a +10 tbh is no where useful to say if a class is good or not… all those content just to make views come on, don’t mislead people just asking that
@guidozappi9224 You are incredibly delusional to think that a +10 isn't relevant content for tons of players. It is. I do this for a living, I hear what tons of players say to me, and presenting a +10 key is very relevant to them. Also I'm not done making Paladin content. This isn't the only key I'm going to present. I'm still gearing... I just finished all dungeons on +11. You're taking 1 video I've made on this and blowing that wayyy out of proportion. Regarding the changes Blizzard is making to Flash of Light and Holy Light. Who the hell cares?? It doesn't matter if they're buffing those spells and you don't ever use them. Then don't use them! Keep doing the melee build which works perfectly fine in M+ or raid (yes I've done the entire raid on Holy Pally).
key 10s all healer is good, but I get your point. The problem starts at 13s above where you only see disc, shaman and some MW. the rest don't even appear. That's horrible balancing problem.
@@marcosmarinho1772 I 100% agree... Blizz has to make some changes for sure
Zuco what UI add on are you using
I don't actually have one! I'm using standard addons to support gameplay like Deadly Boss Mods, Raider.io, Details, etc... But I don't have a UI overhaul addon. Just standard Blizzard UI that I've moved around using the "Edit Mode" feature in the menu
My big issue is we aren't even anywhere near meta, so why are we getting any Nerf to begin with. God dang, resto shamans rolling up this entire aeason have yet to see a direct healing nerf to any of their healing spells.
Hello i love all your vid particurly the one on HPAL, i have a question, is it better to cast sacred weapon on CD or 2 at a time i am not sure?
Use it on CD. The Sacred Shield should be used when someone is gonna need healing, but otherwise just use them on CD. You don't ever want both charges of Sacred Weapon/Shield available, always be using one of them.
time to reroll/respec! Holy shock is just a holy power generator ,it barely pushes health bars. Also we are losing tier set and shock/wog buff. But we need to do testing to PTR to see how it feels
@@vanguelisk Holy Shock feels fine to me. Sounds a bit hyperbolic... It pushes health bars just fine, especially with Virtue + Divine Toll
I been playing Holy Paladin HotS for over a week now, and enjoying the casting with mild mix of melee. 617, and healed a few 7s so far and a bunch of 6s and enjoying it.
I'm planning to main holy pally for our guild in raid for s2.
NW +10 isn't healing hungry. I healed a 14 stonevault and everyone said my healing bursts were way behind my own disc priest. I don't even want to think about completing my key of 14 COT this week.
It is for lots of people. A +10 for a huge chunk of the player base is a big deal. Most player won't ever see a +12. I understand your perspective here, but I'm trying to showcase this build for the larger audience and help people that way.
I'll have to test this out once I get to 14's lol. I'm at 11's right now, gotta get way more gear, etc.
I understand your opinion and also liked the video, but you saying that a Mythic +10 is a big deal? Sorry, but I started playing as hpal in tww, and I got +10 in all dungeons pretty easily. The problem starts above that, the class doesn’t deliver enough healing for a +12 or higher. You need to be really well-geared and have an excellent team to make it work. The class is terrible and will remain so, and of course, no one will ever see a +12 hpal. The class doesn’t heal enough, and no one will accept you in a pug because it’s in such a bad state. Accepting a Holy Paladin in a higher key as a pug is a shot in the foot
@kakuzo44 I've done 3 +12s already on H Pally... I agree it's a tough healer to take into the higher keys, 100%, but it can be done and it's not that bad.
My comments about +10s are to recognize a large group of the player base that isn't as quick to push through keys as you or me... Those players wanting to try Holy Pally should feel like they can do it and not be discouraged from playing simply because people think "not viable" in those keys
The problem is people don't want to cast and all of these changes minus the light smith changes point towards moving towards a more caster centric play style
No melee caster has been viable in all wow history. Change the mastery into a percentage shield and caster may be playable.
All I've heard is that this is faaaar from enough to make it a caster but you can use these abilties without all buffs aligning without trolling now
What's your HOTS build? Thanks again for the upload
Them leaning towards a more hard cast playstyle what a disgrace. Buffing holy light and flash of light why? I never even use them. I hate using holy light and flash of light it just feels janky. To be honest I’m not sure what they are going for but I thought it was playing great this season I’m not sure why they are making so many changes I been doing +10s No problem. It’s felt fantastic.
It really won't matter tbh. Holy Light and Flash of Light are spells you can use in raid and basically no where else.
The Melee style is still very strong and will continue to define Holy Pally.
What's the buff to Flash of Light?
@@ZucoWoW dude have you ever even used paladin in raid ? What are you even saying? I have 99 parses on mythic bosses and I never ever used a single flash or holy in any shit boss, mythic+ is even worse u can’t cast holy light or flash of light beside DF holy light buffed that’s the only time and most of it you skipping. And showing a +10 tbh is no where useful to say if a class is good or not… all those content just to make views come on, don’t mislead people just asking that
@guidozappi9224 You are incredibly delusional to think that a +10 isn't relevant content for tons of players. It is. I do this for a living, I hear what tons of players say to me, and presenting a +10 key is very relevant to them.
Also I'm not done making Paladin content. This isn't the only key I'm going to present. I'm still gearing... I just finished all dungeons on +11.
You're taking 1 video I've made on this and blowing that wayyy out of proportion.
Regarding the changes Blizzard is making to Flash of Light and Holy Light. Who the hell cares?? It doesn't matter if they're buffing those spells and you don't ever use them. Then don't use them! Keep doing the melee build which works perfectly fine in M+ or raid (yes I've done the entire raid on Holy Pally).
im still going lightsmith for s2 ofc. so much fun
nonsense
changes where ? not seeing anything on wowhead tho
Ret needs big nerf