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- The Haida were known as the strongest indigenous naval power in North America. For generations, the First Nations of the Northwest coast lived in fear of these fierce warriors. From their island strongholds, they dominated the region. Their military prowess and political strategy gave rise to a booming trade economy that threatened European colonizers. This ushered in the dazzling golden age of Haida art and architecture.
00:00 The Haida
21:51 The Nlaka'pamux
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I got the opportunity to visit Haida Gwaii this summer! It is truly unlike anywhere else in Canada, what a special and rich history that is very alive and well today
The second I heard the voice of an indigenous American actor narrating this doc about indigenous American nations resisting colonization, a chill went down my spine. Well played, Nations at War, well played!
It's easy to be steered into sell out info
Who tf is this guy
Why? Morgan Freeman narrating a documentary about European history means nothing, it's because you are a racist.
Interesting that the Orientals and Europeans did to the Haida what the Haida did to other tribes except for the taking of slaves.
These people are indigenous Canadians, not Americans.
I learned about these conflicts in school (I'm Canadian), but they are always told from the perspective of the British. It is wonderful to hear them told from the First Nations perspective and given their "complete" (read: non-colonial) context. More content like this please!
I didnt. Our textbooks were full of lies.
Not all first nations have the same perspective. I grew up in Bella Bella and the heiltsuk, who had long warred with the Haida didn't have many good things to say about them.
@@KarmaTiger the Haida were terrorists
@@KarmaTiger That’s very interesting I would love to hear them make a documentary from their perspective that would be awesome
@@KarmaTiger don't we all have those story's brother. At least we can look back at are ancestors story's and look at each other without hate now
I'm métis mixed cree much love counsin even if ya aren't a counsin much love brother
Slavery was so prevalent and prominent in Haida culture that when the europeans made them give up Slavery the Haida refused unless they would be compensated for their loss. It was a major point of conflict.
My father was partly raised by a Haida, called Florrie by our family. This was around 1912 - 1917, when they were living in Prince Rupert. She was much loved. But we have lost track of her.
Prince Rupert is tsimshian territory
@@XG916 I know. But Florrie was Haida. Not far away.
The way I’ve lived in Vancouver B.C my whole life. Heard about the Haida several times but never heard about this!
The 1980s Chief of the Haida was a direct relative to the builders of the Bluenose--I met him in 1981 on the Charlotte Islands, then later, 1988, in Toronto at a meeting that had to do with Canada's Navy ship, the HMCS Haida.
Hereditary or elected?
We have a lot of nerve naming any white construct after any indigenous peoples.
@@ejais would be hereditary. we don't have elected chiefs at home.
@@justiner246 so how does it work with inac aka cirnac/isc?
Brilliant! Great information and narration. I hope you made a lot more of these.
Salute to the resilient Haida tribes. Love and Respect from India.🇮🇳
I'm of Apache descent, so I'm no stranger to the idea of native warrior tribes, but I'd hate to run into a Haida warrior on a raiding party. The armor alone is both beautiful and terrifying, like a wooden knight
All of their tactics, armor and weapons are branch off of Tsimshian. They were followers and desperate "raiders" that got slaughtered on landing more often than not. This documentary is a spin off of some made up realm of overzealous haida stories from a old senile man. It sounds drunken to boast one tribe of the PNW that was considered lower class amongst more powerful tribes on the coast.
@@XG916 your right on brother!!
@@XG916.. oh joy infighting,,,, because we definitely don't want any positive representation 🙄🙄, yeah the full truth will be great but the reality is this is better than the rest of the nonsense coming out which is designed to keep people in a place of having no Pride. Communities that have been stripped of their identity or younger people growing up totally dissociated from our ancestors deserve to have something positive to see
@@eyetrollin710 I've never seen someone put together so many words and mean so little. Our tribes stories are sacred and you commit crimes telling stories from other clans. You have no idea what your talking about. Its honor code. Haidas had none
@@eyetrollin710 our protocol is so stricked that common folk tlingit will claim haida so they can easily move toward being a chief. Whereas you hVe to be blood to be chief in Tsimshian culture. Which i have coursing through my veins. My grandpa was super chief. So yes I brow beat tf out of false documentaries like this
Absolutely fantastic video loved it hope to see more.
Not sure if this episode was produced in the USA but to be clear the Haida nation is in big part located in the north west of Canada. Haida Gawai is part of Canada and has a deep connection to our country’s history. They are not native Americans but First Nations in Canada.
I am Alaskan Haida
Last I checked there's no difference between native Americans and first nations. Especially the BC tribes.
You're white washed if you think they segregated themselves because their cousins lived across a border that didn't exist. Segregation is the white devil mindset.
Also the entire continent is America's. By your last sentence I'm guessing you arent even native. Know your place and shut the f up
Am an Alaska white boy but can confirm Haida culture is a fundamental part of Alaska
Exactly correct...
Incorrect, there were many Haida villages in Southeast Alaska, the international boundary between the US and Canada is an artificial divide. Many of the people on both sides of the border have relatives on the other side.
We need more videos like this.
The Haida people were the Vikings of the North Pacific,as I was told decades ago.Respect to the people.Peace from south coast BC.
No they weren't . They were out casted. Vikings got wiped out on their raids by even smaller Salish tribes. So there's no real power or dominance anywhere. Haidas we're wiped out on raids by tribes that banded together to fight them because they didn't like them equally
@@XG916 yes, they were called that but he should have put quotes on that as in "vikings" as they were a raiding people - they were not, however, the Vikings of the Norse
This was so informative and put together so well. Please make more content like this about indigenous people.
Second this!
This is a canadian atpn production, punch in Nation's at War and you will find more
It's called nations at war.
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It’s sad what humans do to each other.
I think it important to comment that the Haida belong to no one other than themselves. They existed LONG before anyone from Europe landed on their shores. Lets reframe the narrative here and recognize ALL peoples of this world, that are in truth,
First Nations.
First nations? So Canadian
Except the Haida weren't even there first. The were one of the last groups to migrate from Asia to N America. Same with the Inuit.
were they the tribes that would go on raids down in the Puget sound and take captives for slaves?
That was the Tlingit
I'd appreciate an episode about the indigenous people of Wisconsin where I live. Whenever I try to learn about the tribes that lived here I'm bombarded by Milwaukee history and ads for ho chunk casino
Love Haida art as represented in their carvings, but as one Washington State MD told me, "they developed a taste for Salish flesh."
Because they did. They have no real art. Most of their old stuff is Tsimshian based lol
And Salish art isn't even correct formline. Only Tsimshian and Tlingit art follow the absolute rules
@@XG916 that's pretty arrogant...since the oldest totem pole is located on Graham Island. The theory is that the Haida people of the islands of Haida Gwaii originated carving of the poles, and that the practice spread outward to the Tsimshian and Tlingit, and then down the coast to the Indigenous people of British Columbia and northern Washington.
oh boy, you again. The Haida were a great people known around the world. The other nations were pretty good also, but not in the same league@@XG916
The Haida were far away, in a place no one cared off and far away from Europe or any main areas of European settlement. So it's not that they resisted, it's more than they were isolated.
Exactly!
Same could be said about Europe. If the horse 🐎 was Native to the Americas I highly doubt they would of had half the success they had.
An interesting series. I've watched other episodes on another channel. The narrator can be a little dramatic, but it is great to see Native history actually told by the people themselves.
Is he even haida or are you lumping us together?
@@XG916 well it looks like he's from New Westminster which is in the Vancouver area. But that's Capilano territory,,,,
Hey it's better than nothing though.... he has a great voice and he does a great narration for this
@@eyetrollin710 i mean not my tribe even but I KNOW there has to be a haida that can narrate ffs sell out
I like his dramatic narration. He has a nice voice and very good diction.
Fantastic! More documentaries about the Haida and other PNW indigenous tribes, please!
I just can't believe there were only 20,000 people on that giant island. Also surprised to hear that small pox and other European diseases weren't introduced until the Spanish ships came into contact. I had always thought that the spread of European diseases happened to the west coast long before that, being spread overland from native to native contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This just goes to show there isn't enough PNW documentaries out there.
If you're looking to learn more about Haida, i want to suggest the film "The Edge of the Knife."
it's all acted in Haida language with Haida people. and it's a really touching and spooky film.
@@matthewobrien4639 That giant island is actually several islands and people live on the northerly one,Graham Island. It is very remote . Haida Gwaii is as far north from Vancouver as it is from Vancouver to the Hawaiian Islands over 4351 km.
Haida Gwai is in Canada, not exactly the Pacific Northwest!
@@LearnHowToBlog so how do define the pacific ocean and the compass? relative to CA/US/MEX Canada is pretty northwest eh?
I can’t wait to see the documentary on the Tsimshian(my nation).
They need to cover my grandpa Chief Paul Legaic
David Lyle should do bedtime stories!! He has an amazing voice that is so intense, yet so relaxing…major James Earl Jones vibes….
I have great respect for the Haida people and their abilities, but to represent them as the only fierce, skilled tribe along the NW Coast is an over statement. Other tribal groups living in this area have been just as fierce and raiding party's between these tribes where common. Some of the other tribes I refer to are the Tlingit, Kwakiutl, Tsimshian, and many others, all born of the sea & earth, and having been here for thousands of years. We should honor and respect all the native people hear before us.
Why are these societies so deserving of special honors? All societies have good and bad traits, Native Americans aren't some unique utopian pastoral society, they were as fucked up as the rest of us... Definitely don't want to excuse colonialism, but I think people put on rose colored glasses when looking at native societies a lot of the time...
@@Feuerbach1 The reason I hold them in such high regard, is that they developed a very sophisticated culture with incredible art and valuable ideas of how society should function, but I admit they where war like. Kind of like us today. I believe, if the Russians hadn't wanted all the furs, like sea otters, and ermine, they wouldn't have been attacked by western cultures and with that lack of contact, wouldn't have had the contact which led to disease which devastated there society's. To understand this better, Japan was able to deny access to their country for over 100 years, until US Admiral Perry told them, open your country, or we will do it for you, a threat of war. If the NW Coast tribes had that same opportunity, they might be their own country today. Have you looked at museum collections, like the museum of natural history in NY, or the new First Nations museum in Wash. DC. The DC museum has been gathered from several collection over the decades, like what was the Heye Foundation in NY. So, yes most of the NW tribes where war like, but I believe the Europeans have always been war like too. Remember the history of the 100 year war in Europe.
Yeah slavers like Anthony Johnson
@@jerryhill4012 I don't think Haida and Japanese people are comparable at all. One is a well-established nation that is considered by Europeans on equal terms. The other is what, boat-rowing raiders who terrorized smaller ethnic groups in their neighborhood?
@@kzm-cb5mrLike the vikings
Having lived on Haida Gwaii this is a very good video only issue was the map you had Masset and Skidegate wrong Masset sin the North
Your a great narrator?! I especially enjoyed your telling us of the Iron Confederacy.You tell the story so well. Rite On!?
Headhunter and cannibal on other tribes to the south and vice versa before the first ship showed up
Illiterate and racist online, other tribes prevented the Puritans from resorting to cannibalism that first Thanksgiving.
Someone will claim they were black.
19:18 ? How did it "feel" when the neighbors of the Haida were attacked and enslaved? All of humanity is violent. The only difference is technology
Haida people..most of them live on the Haida guay island now. Still sovereign from US and Canada. Great insight..great people.
That's where they were put
@@XG916 wow..cannot even pronounce your name. I would say/guess you are indigenous and are waaay more knowledgeable about the topic. I understood they retreated to the home island. Please enlighten. Thanx for comment
@@davechartier6898 I am a Tsimshian prince descendant of super chief Paul Legaic. No surrounding tribes liked them. They never gained territory. They were told to give up slavery. They remained on desolate haida gwaii. And the weaker band that was almost wiped out by tlingit was given land called Haidaburg. There's so much wrong with this documentary.
@@XG916 thank you for the clarity. What I would not give for a face to face with you. I would find that time INVALUABLE as a simple man's search for truth. Thank you for your time.
I lived in the Queen Charlotte Islands for many years. There are very few days that you can take your shirt off, never mind wear a loin cloth. Haida Gwai is not Hawaii!
Cool boats.
Great documentary, I grew up in Telkwa BC. Not far from Smithers. Our elementary school would send us off to a museum showing everything about Native culture. Long houses, how they catch salmon, canoes, totem poles. Everything.
And learning everything in textbooks.
I kinda of. Had an appreciation or understanding of Native culture.
Never knew they traded with ancient China. What evidence was there to show for it?
from what i understand they didn't trade with ancient China (except maybe interacted with possible Japanese or other east Asian traders looking for a stinky yellow tree) but what they and most other PNW peoples did was have access to East Asian goods washed up from ship wrecks most prized being iron and other metal. the ocean currants bring a lot of debris from the east onto the PNW coast even today
Beheading as a response to rape? These people valued and respected their women.
I really dislike when youtube channels dismissively referred to Canadians as 'North American's'.. Ok yes the continent as a whole is NA, but when referring to specific cultures or people or cities in Canada, just say Canadian already. We are not Americans, you guys dont own everything lol. The title is completely misleading and already there are lots of comments referring to the Haida as Native Americans. They are not. The ancestral home of the Haida people is Haida Gwaii, an archipelago off the coast of British Columbia. CANADA.
This is my backyard. It's so beautiful im lucky to BC home
Wait, the British didn't establish colonies in the west coast until the 1800s. You're thinking of Russia. During Peter the Great's time, the west coast of North America was colonized by Russia from Northern California to Alaska. Started by fur trading, of course. It was actually called Russian America, and was colonized before the British colonized our east coast. So the Spanish were here first, then The Russians, then the Brits, at dead last. Makes me wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the information in this video.
this channel is notorious for spreading misinformation and false facts. For one haida are Canadian, not american. Im not even going to bother watching it.
My Grandma was Haida and my Grandpa was Aleut!
hey , buddy there carved the totems down the street at the schoolboard here last year . talked to him about his grandad chief Dan George . new him to . a good people and some of the best athletes i ever competed against.
7:50 fun little fact idk about these fellas but a way to look for a club was to find roots and the one in the time stamp looks like one at least to me
I been a BC guy for 20 yrs, I'm from Mexico and I really loved and appreciated this documentary, live on the pacific from jalisco all the way to British Columbia and I love it
As an asian how i see it : When the StoneAge met the Renaissance .
... natives were like : how dare you be thousands of years ahead of us in inventions and knowlege ! How dare you explore our lands and study animals , plants and minerals ! Stuff we never thought of doing ourselves! How dare you use what you discovered on our lands to expand Humanities knowlege and create more inventions !
Get off our lands ! Oooga ooga intensified and things got ugly ..
wait , by their Mentality towards infectious diseases , does this mean China is guilty of Genocide agaimst the world with Covid ?
Apparently, they believe people knew what germs were back then.
Ya, part of their current problem is they blame all their ills on the invasions hundreds of years ago. Their technology was equivalent to Europe and Asia like 3000 to 4000 BC. It was never going to end well for them
Would it not be considered genocide that the Haida were killing neighbouring tribes?
The definition of genocide is this
- the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
IDK if that fits with what the Haida were doing.
no, that is not the definition of genocide
Yes it was. Just ask the tribes got attack by the haida.
The biggest problem is people who call others for they did themselves.
@@LadyWhinesalot
I can’t help but think how different things would have been if smallpox hadn’t destroyed the populations of native peoples. No doubt North America would have many native nations today. Not reserves and tribal land, but full blown modern nations.
Great information-the dramatic music & voice intonation, is a little trite. Thanks for your efforts.
I am from the K'omoks Indian Band on Vancouver Island, or Comox from the Haida Gwaii
I was adopted, at 6 months old - I was baby "B" and my twin was baby "A" for six months, into a white upper class family. I wish i knew about my past. Know Nothing of my past
I always chuckle at the Hollywood version of the majestic native. The reality is far different.
I always chuckle at the ignorant version of the cultured, "God-fearing" pioneer. The reality is far different.
The greatest Naval Power North America had ever seen?
We have a 15,000 year history here, the greatest Naval Power of the Americas was likely a Civilization gone before Spanish Arrival.
There’s zero evidence of large structures or boats left by the natives outside of Mexico, Mississippi, and Peru, and maybe some settlements in the Amazon.
The northwest coast natives were the only people who independently invented any kind of naval navigation in the pre contact world and there’s certain accounts they traded with ainu people in Japan.
@@aspen1606 I guess you need to spend more time in the Carolinas or re-read the Spanish accounts from 1521 and 1526. Cabesa de Vaca and later Cabot both encountered people as capable as the Haida on the waters.
@@aspen1606how do you know about that. Because Ania people don't know what you are talking.
Need to watch “cousins across the sea”. By Plum Tree Productions
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🤔🤔🤔 From where did came from before arrival in the continent ???
The Haida may have come to the American Northwest thousands of years ago from Asia, crossing a land bridge between Alaska and Russia...emphasis on "may have"
We came from this land. Where did you come from white devil? Do you believe you're African😂
Ok there is definitely some good information but things were taking way to far I've studied this and there is a A Lot Of things that aren't true. He said the first ships and first contacts was in 1775 or something like that. So much bs
History focuses on the words and deeds of the people involved. This means that important factors are overlooked or barely discussed. The displacement of Indigenous Americans by Europeans, Africans, and Asians could not have happened without the disproportionate death rate of infectious diseases from Europe, Africa, and Asia. Before Plymouth, the Wampanoag prevented Europeans from building anything. Only after the Wampanoag lost an estimated 90% of their numbers were the English able to make even one settlement.
can anyone tell me why the former chief's patches/buttons on his collar are blurred?
Probably because they have copyrighted or trademarked symbols/images on them.
@@garynaccarato4606 I wonder why he would have trademarked symbols. is that common for chiefs?
@@Gloriousturtlechan they are tied to family heritage
thnx for documentary it was interesting and informative ...always dragged my feet to learn the tribes of west coast tribes ....now i have set the foot int hat direction , to all the peoples AhO'
It's interesting that the indigenous people of Japan, the Ainu (from Hokkaido), also have totems & other similarities.
I wonder if the Haida originally came from the Ainu.
Nope. They are most likely a product of trade or were influenced by Tsimshian or Tlingit art. We canoed all over the ring of fire. There's no art on earth that's correct formline like tsimshian and Tlingit. There's rules you have to follow in our art to claim it as authentic
@askurmom5767
I looked at a Japanese Ainu site & the same DNA Haplogroup of PNW Native Americans is shared by Ainu.
It's widely believed by scientists that the US was first settled by migrating groups from Siberia & Southeast Asia.
@@drusilladana4184 lmfao 🤣 okay you don't realize that we went all over the ring of fire and ladies love tsimshian and Tlingit men. They could be a branch of us. But go ahead and try to take away our individual identity. End of the day we were here from the beginning. We have culture. European colonists did not. They were driven by greed and religion
@@drusilladana4184 tsimshian art was and is the most symmetrical art there is. It makes Egyptian artifacts of the same era look like kindergarten drawings
@@drusilladana4184 if we're not authentic then why is our art? And why do only two tribes of the coast follow tje exact rules? Why did we have the most land when the bell rung and the round ended due to white disease? Pnw tribes were not taken over by colonists
Arohanui from your polynesian kuzzies ❤️🔥❤️🔥 haida gwaii, Hawaiki.
Nah if you had any of PNW blood it'd be Tsimshian or Tlingit. From when we traded up and down the coast. Your art is a stem of formline art
@@XG916 haplogroup c y dna cm130
19:58 - Masset and Skidegate are mislabeled - Masset is north, Skidegate is south.
Tlinglit were also fierce resisiters,mostly against the Russians
Were they Canadian or Alaskan? (didn't watch the video yet, just wondering from the thumbnail)
They are a autonomous , non-treaty first nation within Canadian waters.
We can cross the border legally without a passport because we also had villages in Alaska it’s pretty cool
i have nothing but respect for these people ..
They'll have nothing but disrespect for you😂
@@XG916 dont be so sure
@@smokeymacpot76 oh where'd you grow up?
@@XG916 BC why..
@@XG916 do i have to live on Hiada to respect them lol
Money sucks
19:58 flipped Masset & Skidegate. Masset is up North
I'm a lifelong British Columbian. Man's inhumanity to man and Greed disgust me. My heart breaks for the Noble Haida.
Why are they any more or less 'noble' than any other group of people?? We all have some good and bad traits since we're all people
@@Feuerbach1
Ya, that was the takeaway, phffff
@@swapshots4427 only because you are a historically illiterate cretin. they had empire building and slavery too, they just weren't as good at it as Europeans, and having technology that was out classed by the guys who built the pyramids 5000 years ago didn't help
@@swapshots4427 Blowing raspberries at me isn't making a point, I think 'noble' is a stupid term to apply to anybody, let alone an entire group of people. And frankly I think infantalizes or disneyfies what is a complex culture, like any culture.
@@Feuerbach1
Ok.
Just have your opinion and F O then.
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Exactly -- it wasn't Shangri-la on the west coast before colonizing Europeans arrived.
nor afterward
@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff bananas 🤩
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No one said it was really?
Who said it was?
There where nations at war throughout American history.
Although Europeans did interrupt an very long pax Americana forged by the eastern tribes living In a confederacy by introducing the European plagues. Prior the Hilda and the Aztec etc,where rather the smaller forces disrupters of a overall peace between very large trading nations.
The Hiada? You mean those people who were massive slavers?
All the way to south and Central America
Lol this kinda has a deadliest warrior feel around here 7:19
I think there's a possibility that the Northwest Coast natives had interactions with Polynesians
I don't know about the P.N.W. natives interacting with them but there is some decently solid evidence that the Inca or other Andean people had interactions with the Polynesians both having sweat potato's and having similar names for them is a big one
Yo man you got masset and skidegate and in the wrong spots skidegate is the village down south and masset is up north
As they raided , raped ,pillaged and took Slaves from every other tribe . Why is that overlooked ?
shssssssssssss dont say a word that they re like all of us .
Why overlook the inbreeding slaveholders that lied and murdered their way West?
@@jasonbrown372 you mean conquered all before them like they were conquered every land has been conquered .
@@ronmailloux8655 I do not concur.
@@jasonbrown372 yes I figured that but inbreed slaveholders do not strike me as capable of doing much . In addition it was small pox that wiped most natives out. History isnt pretty consider how the Mongols of the 12th century did .
Just another story of the ways of wicked children. God give this earth back to peaceful people. 🙏
Go to hell white devil
Boats are like the Viking boats.
They are canoes and no they are not. Viking culture was weak. We make canoes from one tree. Vikings had to imply European style building.
My beautiful, amazing succulent, etc. etc. wife is Haida. and so are my two beautiful children. Funny, watching this. All I know is don’t piss off a Haida. What’s really funny or really really interesting is if the stories are true, the people came from Polynesian people. That sailed across the whole damn Pacific Ocean. Anyways, just a commercial fisherman in Alaska. I don’t know anything. Well done.
Lol don't piss off a haida? They get mad when you make them look dumb. And no tribes in pnw are Polynesian or Asians etc. Do more research if you really love your wife. Or know your place
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Genocide is deliberate. Intentional. Although convenient for the settlers, it was in almost all cases not intentional.
I wonder if they asked how slavery felt
The Haida are very similar to the Maori or Mauri of New Zealand
No they are not
no, not at all...only in that they are an indigenous people
Remember when they wrecked the vikings often considered one of the strongest fighting cultures known to man were TERRIFIED by their own accounts of the indigenous Americans terrified of them the vikings were afraid of the indigenous
Yup I already knew there was gonna be people saying 'Those losers lost, Shouldn't have been fighting each other, It's not your land' ect ect. Did not have to look but I did and my point was immediately proven, Sucks that people don't just wanna learn and take in information only espouse the talking points of the generational talking heads of sentiments against marginalized/ Minority groups
Good to have your suspicions confirmed. However, please don't assume that people who watched the documentary did not wish to be better informed. Or have read a great deal about the subject, written about it or even might be part of a minority or descendants of displaced persons themselves.
@@pianississimo I'm not saying that, I I know there are people who are not associated with that crowd but my point is there are those who only wish to draw negative and be negative on a matter in which doesn't affect them in any other way than to brag about their 'Ancestors' being winners over 'The savages of the frontier'. I'm glad for people who actually take the time to learn and understand and am grateful for those people. I just dislike when I have the thoughts of people who are bigots and fall into racist rhetoric as they really just want a rise out of people, You understand where I'm coming from mate? You seem pretty open minded to me 😁👌🏽
@@Eliqueme not to be argumentative but I've seen as much of that sentiment in the comment section as people saying whites are most violent and worse. Disregarding the slavery and murder and greed mentioned in the video from the Haidas when in reality greed fuels all of that and technological advancement strengthens it. The difference between Europeans in this context with any of the tribes or people's they conquered is only technology. Greed, savageness cruelty is endemic in all human history.
The Tlingit would beg to differ
🤔🤔🤔 WHOM were their enemies ???
Their enemies included the Coast Tsimshian, Bella Bella, and Southern Tlingit as well as the Kwakiutl, Coast Salish, and Nootkans...later the European and American traders
I think this is in Canada? Turtle Island?
The Haida inhabit an island off the coast of British Colombia by Alaska. However the Haidan relatives extended all the way down to the lower Oregon coast.
@@aspen1606 the Haida do not inhabit "an island". Haida Gwaii is an archipelago of more than 200 islands
So thay made slaves out of their own? I missed the part of hearing if their new slaves were European's or just other tribesmen. You never hear of this slave trade in school.
The Haida,uses Tlingit Chilkat in the thumbnail smh 🤦♂️
I like this channel, but I have to say, it overly focuses on the military aspects of things while giving comparatively little attention to the social, cultural, and political interpretations.
There is nothing essential about slavery just psychopathic
Please change your inaccurate video title. "Native American" is a term used in the United States and Native Americans were made citizens of the United States in the 1920s.
The Haida are within the borders of Canada where the term is First Nations and they are covered under the Indian Act. Their land was never ceded to the crown. Different country, different term, different legal standing.
Today I still care about the Native Americans.
I like hearing about the indigenous culture and their heritage. I’m afraid it’ll be lost so these stories are very important.
I don't know about fierce. They fought for their resources. Living in the PNW "Fierce" isn't a word attached to the Haida. It is often more gentile. The tribes of Puget Sound and Seattle were even more peaceable.
Exactly. Not fierce. Desperate.
I dont know... Some of my family are S'klallam and they are certainly known as fierce. It's not derogatory to say that. Can't speak for the Haida, but I know that a lot of the big native guys around here are dudes you want on your side, not people that are known for being soft. Kind and often quiet, but hardly soft.
@@Controlled-Opposition. coastal tribes like yours had much more extreme conditions to live under. The inland tribes had more easily obtained resources. That may be a part of it. So much food they just moved when confronted. That or your tribe was uncivilized barbarians. Either way I hope the languages and traditions survive for generations.
Many were early subjugated ; their children "re-educated", and their Potlatch gatherings forbidden. Even today, many choose to live across the Columbia River where there is a radioactive zone that was used for WW2 atomic tests. Whites are forbidden to go there, so Haida live there, are tested and mostly unaffected!
@@thereissomecoolstuff your high off your ass. All coastal tribes owned their territory. Little inland tribes were slaughtered unless they traded. Our minds are sharper, bones denser and we are taller. We ate everything rich in vitamins. Inland tribes were sold out. We never sold out, none of us. You wanna tell me yud rather eat buffalo jerky over a salmon belly?
Haida = little Europeans? 🤔
no
The Haida were from Queen Charlotte Islands in Canada now known as Haida Guai , not american
Gwaii - not Guai.
America is north America and south America. Americans come from the last word in the name of the United States of America. Same as Mexico is the last word in United States of Mexico. Mexican but we all are still people of Americas 🌎
I am of Maori heritage and play world of warships the Haida is a good DD to play.
The Haida were a fiercely independent people, had an intricate tribal culture and certainly were a force to be reckoned with. But to call them a 'civilization' and 'naval power'? That's a bit much.
If the pagan Norse kingdoms and societies could be considered civilized, or at least possesors of some civilized characterics (whatever "civilized" even means), then the Haida can be considered that as well. Personally, forts, art, sea warfare, and a specialised artisan class seem good indicators of social complexity for the Haida
@@boio_ lol Except for that their technology was outclassed by the guys who built the pyramids, ever seen the ubrecht sword? or how about the boat design that allowed them to conquer and found cities everywhere from Dublin to Moscow.
The Haida are proof that civilization can be a shaky term. They and the northwest coast peoples had an insanely complex culture and society for people who lived nearly entirely off the land. You can see it in their art and social institutions like the potlatch.
depends on your definition of civilized...and yes, at the time they were a naval power. Naval only meaning ships
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🤨🤨🤨 Remember when the Lakota's were betrayed and screwed by everyone !!!