Be it known that there is much to be learned and many riches to be obtained by greater understanding of the Filioque doctrine; always be increasing in the Faith (Luke 17:5).
@@KarmaKraftttt Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches. It's based out of Moscow, Idaho, and was founded by Douglas Wilson. They have Reformed, Presbyterian, Anglican, and Baptist churches in their denomination. It's a communion of churches holding to at least one of several ancient confessional documents. The church I am a member of is part of the Reformed tradition.
This is the concordance answer: 1607 ekporeúomai (from 1537 /ek, "out from," intensifying 4198 /poreúomai, "take a particular passageway") - properly, go out from, emphasizing the outcome (end-impact) of going through a particular process or passage - i.e. the influence on the person (or thing) which comes forth.
I disagree that the Catholic dropping of the Filioque is a good concession to make for unity, any more than forcing its addition on the Orthodox would be. Plus, no one can or should rewrite the chant settings of the Creed at this point.
@@john-paulgies4313 No, I think we should be uniting around the essentials, and be in fellowship despite differences on secondary issues. As an example, a Calvinist and an Arminian should be able to be in the same fellowship, like George Whitefield and John Wesley were, both as Anglicans. No need to be splitting over secondary issues.
Split over this. Wow. So makes want to remain unaffiliated with any organized branch of Christianity. The pettiness. The fallibility. Soon after He designated Peter the Rock He commands him, Get thee behind me. How we should view our so-called first Pope.
Honestly, John. It really wasn't over just a simple doctrinal change. I shared a simplified version to stay on topic but there was far more at play regarding power (role of the pope), and also distrust from the crusades. People are sinful and will let us down (including ourselves, btw) but God's ordained means of grace through the church is vital for every Christian. If we want to worship God, we need to do it according to his ways.
Especially since an "organized branch" of Christianity gave you the Bible, the sacraments, the Mass and of course the Eucharist. Who needs all that to be a Christian anarchist :)
The audacity to call this discussion "petty" is shocking and makes me fear for you. But perhaps you're using words in vain (for which we shall also be judged - Matthew 12:35-37)... what could you _possibly_ know that enables you to predicate to this discussion "fallibility"?!
Thanks, I didn't understand the Filioque before seeing this video but I like it being part of the Nicene Creed because it's the truth
Be it known that there is much to be learned and many riches to be obtained by greater understanding of the Filioque doctrine; always be increasing in the Faith (Luke 17:5).
Hey awesome video
I’m Catholic
Just wondering what church you from? 😊
Anglican persuasion but there's no Anglican church where I live. So a happy member of a CREC church.
@@TheologyJeremy what’s a CREC church bro?
@@KarmaKraftttt Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches. It's based out of Moscow, Idaho, and was founded by Douglas Wilson. They have Reformed, Presbyterian, Anglican, and Baptist churches in their denomination. It's a communion of churches holding to at least one of several ancient confessional documents. The church I am a member of is part of the Reformed tradition.
@@TheologyJeremy Very interesting so it’s a mixed of all these churches ?
The Byzantine Catholic Church does not recite the Filioque in the Nicene Creed.
They believe in it tho unlike the unorthodox narcissists
My question is, what does it mean that the Spirit 'proceeds' from either the Father or the Father and the Son?
This is the concordance answer: 1607 ekporeúomai (from 1537 /ek, "out from," intensifying 4198 /poreúomai, "take a particular passageway") - properly, go out from, emphasizing the outcome (end-impact) of going through a particular process or passage - i.e. the influence on the person (or thing) which comes forth.
I disagree that the Catholic dropping of the Filioque is a good concession to make for unity, any more than forcing its addition on the Orthodox would be.
Plus, no one can or should rewrite the chant settings of the Creed at this point.
Would it be fair to say that ecumenicalism isn't a goal of yours?
@@TheologyJeremy it would not.
@@TheologyJeremy Would it be fair to say that your notion of echumenism is a synthesis of true and false doctrine for the sake of "getting along"?
@@john-paulgies4313 No, I think we should be uniting around the essentials, and be in fellowship despite differences on secondary issues. As an example, a Calvinist and an Arminian should be able to be in the same fellowship, like George Whitefield and John Wesley were, both as Anglicans. No need to be splitting over secondary issues.
@@TheologyJeremy And... the Trinity? Non-essential?
Ive thought that we should offer to drop the filioque in exchange for the EO dropping ikons... its a fair trade. 😊
That's a very Brad thing to say ;)
Split over this. Wow. So makes want to remain unaffiliated with any organized branch of Christianity. The pettiness. The fallibility.
Soon after He designated Peter the Rock He commands him, Get thee behind me. How we should view our so-called first Pope.
Honestly, John. It really wasn't over just a simple doctrinal change. I shared a simplified version to stay on topic but there was far more at play regarding power (role of the pope), and also distrust from the crusades.
People are sinful and will let us down (including ourselves, btw) but God's ordained means of grace through the church is vital for every Christian. If we want to worship God, we need to do it according to his ways.
Especially since an "organized branch" of Christianity gave you the Bible, the sacraments, the Mass and of course the Eucharist. Who needs all that to be a Christian anarchist :)
The audacity to call this discussion "petty" is shocking and makes me fear for you. But perhaps you're using words in vain (for which we shall also be judged - Matthew 12:35-37)... what could you _possibly_ know that enables you to predicate to this discussion "fallibility"?!