Tesla bills customer $21000 for driving through the rain while they're still in warranty 🤦

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  • @ionshatter9622
    @ionshatter9622 ปีที่แล้ว +2068

    "You don't care about a diverse and inclusive workforce, your entire hiring system is created by bigots and then outsourced to AI so you don't have to take responsibility."
    Absolutely stellar quote. Extremely relevant and on the head.

    • @FlabbyTabby
      @FlabbyTabby ปีที่แล้ว +107

      This is true, diversity and inclusion are just PR talking points for the company, just like their "saving the environment" PR.

    • @MichaelTorrisi-qu8sl
      @MichaelTorrisi-qu8sl ปีที่แล้ว +27

      When you make money, you can leverage that money into the ability to make more money. Better economies of scale, better marketing, etc. What this means is companies best focused on efficiently increasing profit eventually edge out the companies that are worse at generating profit.
      Therefore, a company focusing on something other than profit is a bad company. The onus of ensuring good corporate citizenship cannot be on the companies. It must be on the state to set and enforce a regulatory framework that reins in what excesses would otherwise occur.

    • @lovejumanji5
      @lovejumanji5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MichaelTorrisi-qu8sl. Here’s the catch 22 ….. you would let the overlords through the gate because you think it’s logical or makes sense! 😂
      It would be funny if it didn’t get so dark so fast .

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ​@@FlabbyTabby
      I'd go a step further - diversity hiring is about harming specific ethnic groups. It does this by reducing wages and making it harder to unionise

    • @SimpleThoughts-kc6gh
      @SimpleThoughts-kc6gh ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean Socialism. This made up idea is Socialism rebranded. Hiring workers based on things UNRELATED to qualifications because you’re forced to is socialism and it Will destroy this country.
      I work with diversity hires and they’re literally late 4 out of 5 days and work out put is half or less. I’ve seen it affect hood employees. Eventually profit is lowered.
      If this continues there will be NO jobs.

  • @kovacs88
    @kovacs88 ปีที่แล้ว +6647

    If the battery is non serviceable, then it should be water tight, if it's not intended to be opened, it should've been easy to seal it up completely.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss ปีที่แล้ว

      Saying anything is unserviceable shows your brain has been eaten by the anti freedom to repair ghouls. Of course its water tight and sealed. See Rich's Rich Rebuilds.

    • @cybranloyalist2285
      @cybranloyalist2285 ปีที่แล้ว +725

      The batteries are supposed to be sealed, they must have got a lemon which makes it even more unacceptable they're being told to pay for it

    • @pickcomb332
      @pickcomb332 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Look at you, sounds like you work for a living. Do you own a home too?

    • @jazzdirt
      @jazzdirt ปีที่แล้ว +48

      But.. but.. but.. If it's watertight it'll overheat...

    • @TexasDragon3907
      @TexasDragon3907 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      ​@@manitoba-op4jxYeah, it's not like new ice cars have had expensive computer controlled modules that could also die if they aren't waterproofed properly for the past 20-30 years. That could never happen.
      Edit: Since some of you missed the point entirely, I'm not defending Tesla's trash standards. The point is this could happen on any vehicle and we should hold any company that underbuilds their vehicle and then refuse to do warranty work.

  • @GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE
    @GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE ปีที่แล้ว +4369

    The fact that my right to repair something I've spent thousands of dollars on is _controversial_ is nuts to me. I'm offended by the idea that I'm not allowed to repair literally _everthing_ I own, regardless of price point.

    • @Satook
      @Satook ปีที่แล้ว +253

      This is why manufacturers add proprietary authentication protocols and other junk to male repairs fail without the magic keys.
      Also why a lot of shit gets sealed up with glue so that opening breaks it.
      If the smallest part you can replace is larger and can only be supplied by that manufacturer, then they make more cash.
      My old car had $2 signalling globes that I could replace in 5 minutes. Most new cars all have sealed, glued taillight units that cost hundreds to buy.

    • @Kubickz
      @Kubickz ปีที่แล้ว +173

      Is not controvertial, the manufacturers are pouring billions to make it controvertial.

    • @JoseGonzalez-lm3rt
      @JoseGonzalez-lm3rt ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Let's not forget about dealership only parts. Parts that are only available at the dealership and not from any parts store is utter bullsh*t.

    • @joeschmoe6908
      @joeschmoe6908 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You do have the right to repair your stuff, what's controversial is whether the manufacturer should be required to make available parts or schematics, or assist you in any way.
      If you can find a way to fix it yourself nobody is stopping you.

    • @rikubrown8109
      @rikubrown8109 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@Satookwait you can't get to the bulb by the trunk? Glad I have my old girl

  • @Phantom0fTheRouter
    @Phantom0fTheRouter ปีที่แล้ว +1135

    The UK has a "Fit for Purpose" consumer protection law. If the car is not fit for driving in a bit of rain, then they should be entitled to free repair or refund, regardless of the seller's interpretation of warranty conditions.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Absolutely. Sue the bastards.

    • @theworkshopwhisperer.5902
      @theworkshopwhisperer.5902 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Unfortunately I imagine that you can skip and dance around such regulation. It's sad how we can't just tell large businesses to stop screwing us over out of the goodness of their heart.

    • @Sunderas
      @Sunderas ปีที่แล้ว +129

      @@theworkshopwhisperer.5902 actually no. This can actually hammer this Tesla case.

    • @Jono793
      @Jono793 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      SAD FART 😅
      Goods in the UK must be:
      of Satisfactory quality
      As Described
      Fit-for-purpose
      And
      Last A Reasonable amount of Time.
      And that's aside from any warranty rights under contract (which is a completely separate issue -and you usually can't contract around statutory consumer rights in the UK).
      The wrinkle is going to be that yellow weather warning ⚠️. As we speak, I've got a similar warning, with some roads flooding in my town. Tesla can probably bring that up as evidence that it wasn't their fault.
      I believe if it's more than 6 months from purchase, it may also be the burden on the buyer to prove that they didn't damage the battery. (E.g. By driving through flood water)

    • @blackrifle6736
      @blackrifle6736 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      *Pity is, US lacks any law in that regard.*

  • @dirkschmachtel1595
    @dirkschmachtel1595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Great to hear your perspective! A few years ago I tore apart my washing machine to replace the bearings, and on the dryer replaced the felt strip and rubber belt. My friends and family thought I was crazy. It was a lot of work; I was in over my head, and almost gave up. In the end I got them all back together in working order, with no leaks and it was the best feeling ever. So much was learned and I also learned a lot about myself in the process. This is the main reason I will never buy a Tesla and instead opt for the most repairable, DIY friendly car on the market. Fixing stuff is a "green," and it's also fun.

  • @randomexeter3627
    @randomexeter3627 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Let me get this straight... a vehicle, intended to be operated in an exterior environment, is not designed to be water resistant?
    Not only would I not pay that bill, I would report it to the local consumer fraud agency.

    • @willcresson8776
      @willcresson8776 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Meanwhile, my old late 80s Dodge truck: "Hehe, the river is only a few feet deep - go ahead, ford at the high point, it'll be fine"
      And it was fine. I tried hard to kill that old Ramcharger. I got it at 75k miles and 20 years old, put another 50k on it over only a few years. Didn't even ever have to replace the battery, and I wheeled the shit out of it.

    • @hansmemling2311
      @hansmemling2311 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @willcresson8776 unfortunately for a large part of the europeans car laws are more strict and there is a huge push from politics to become all electric. Meaning that pretty soon it will be impossible for many europeans to own and drive a car they can work on themselves.

    • @smearfo5612
      @smearfo5612 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@hansmemling2311 Just because it's electric doesn't mean it has to inherently be impossible to repair. It's just that the idea of making everything into unfixable junk has proliferated at the same time as the development of electric vehicles, modern gas cars are no better in this regard than their electric counterpart.

    • @hansmemling2311
      @hansmemling2311 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@smearfo5612 good point. This means reality is even more bleak now than I thought.

    • @jcardboard
      @jcardboard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Especially in Scotland. It rains here all the time. If this is their policy they must take their car off the market as it is unsuitable.

  • @BlueJDev
    @BlueJDev ปีที่แล้ว +1402

    There's no point in having a Tesla in Scotland, if you cannot drive it in the rain!

    • @unsaltedskies
      @unsaltedskies ปีที่แล้ว +125

      You won't be able to drive the car on any of the 366 days where it rains.

    • @lbochtler
      @lbochtler ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@unsaltedskies only 366 days of rain per year?that sounds very optimistic to me.

    • @dansands8140
      @dansands8140 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Obviously, Teslas work fine in the rain, or there wouldn't be any working ones. This guy almost certainly took it through floodwaters.

    • @MylesHSG
      @MylesHSG ปีที่แล้ว +165

      ​@@dansands8140not necessarily, considering Tesla's questionable build quality perfectly reasonable to assume it wasn't sealed properly from the factory

    • @MeaningPlum1995
      @MeaningPlum1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dansands8140 lick that leather boot

  • @DanielRenardAnimation
    @DanielRenardAnimation ปีที่แล้ว +298

    I'm disgusted with this *"only POORS ask"* attitude that companies have.
    You're on the mark. This is an increasing problem. At least 3 different companies that I've contacted over recent time, with an inquiry or a concern about something before making a purchase, have simply ignored the question I have asked. It really does feel like that we're expected to not ask, simply open up our wallets in silence.

    • @Dragoonsoul7878
      @Dragoonsoul7878 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That is why they started calling Customers something else, Consumers.
      They design stuff for the mass that consumes without question. You can ignore most problems long enough that you'll make a great profit after all the legal fees. Occasionally pretend to listen and back down to make predatory practices more acceptable.

    • @FlabbyTabby
      @FlabbyTabby ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they employ dark patterns to make it tougher to talk to human support, to get refunds, replacements or repairs.
      We need more lawsuits against these companies. More and more and more and more.

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm poor. Now what?

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx ปีที่แล้ว +3

      my understanding was you don't usually become rich by accepting bad deals even though simple people see it as the status symbol option.

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s rumors that they count on repair money. And turnover of having to buy new.

  • @blythan3134
    @blythan3134 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    My dad is self employed, took the business over from my grandparents, and still is running some really old machines simply because you can repair them really easily. Are some of these machines slightly harder to use? Yes. But the ease of repair outweighs it by so much it's insane.

    • @todorkolev7565
      @todorkolev7565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what business is that, what machines? :)

    • @MK_ULTRA420
      @MK_ULTRA420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@todorkolev7565 If it's not lathe work I'm calling BS.

    • @Feracitus
      @Feracitus ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@MK_ULTRA420 laundromat in my neighborhood is using 50yo machines prolly for this same reason.

    • @roxannlegg750
      @roxannlegg750 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use machines that are 150 years old....

  • @AlphanumericCharacters
    @AlphanumericCharacters ปีที่แล้ว +1118

    I’m a mechanic. Typically mechanics are paid a flat rate for repairs they do. If the labor time in the book is 1.5 hours for a water pump they get paid 1.5 hours whether it takes them .3 hours or 3.0 hours to do the job. Many shops also pay commission on parts. So if I remove your turn signal switch and clean the contacts I get paid 1.5 hours for my labor including diagnostic time. If I replace your switch with a new one I get 1.5 hours labor. If I am only paid labor with no part commission I have no incentive to sell you that $225 switch. If I get commission. Often 10%. I make an addition $22.50 of the job. You may wonder why a shop that doesn’t sell parts, that is sourcing those parts from a local parts store would pay commission. They get wholesale pricing for the part. If MSRP on that part is $225 they may get it for $125 from the part store at wholesale price. They then mark it up on your bill to MSRP of $225. They cut the mechanic his share and profit an additional $87.50 on the job. Therefore everyone is incentivized to sell parts rather than fix them.
    Even in a shop where the mechanic only is paid labor and has no incentive to sell parts they will be pressured to do so. The manager may reject them fixing the part because it will not be durable long term. The customer may have an issue two years from now and become angry that they have to pay to have the same problem fixed. This is actually a valid and real concern. This does happen. However, the proper way to handle it is to give the customer the option. Let them decide. Truly though, the managers real concern is that they want to pad the ticket for more profit.
    All this said. In the vast majority of situations the part cannot reasonably be repaired. It is not cost effective for me to disassemble your blower motor, replace the bearings, and rewind the armature. The labor would far exceed the $125 for a new part.
    Yes though there are many annoyances. Such as not being able to rebuild alternators anymore. Or the fact that you can’t buy ball joints and bushings for control arms on many cars. You have it get a new assembly. What is wrong with the 20 pound chunk of steel that the ball joints and bushing are attached to? Or “loaded” struts. Why do I need a new coil spring. It literally takes me less than five minutes to swap from the old strut to the new.
    As for the Tesla battery. If the water penetrated it. Dirty potentially salty water it probably fried all the electronics built into the battery pack. I also have to wonder what damage was done to the cells. It is probably lucky the thing didn’t catch fire. I doubt the pack was salvageable.
    But like you said. How the hell did water enter the thing? That’s a manufacturing defect. I have never worked on a Tesla but I have worked on many Hybrids those batteries are sealed tight.

    • @chucknorris277
      @chucknorris277 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Not to mention the liability for servicing a charged battery. Or potentially charged cell or 2

    • @alexanderchenf1
      @alexanderchenf1 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      In short, in America, try your best to replace malfunctioning parts, preferably by yourself in a safe manner. Labor and time are expensive. Parts are not.

    • @1940limited
      @1940limited ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Several years ago I repaired a heater motor on a 37 Buick I had. It was incredible that materials in that motor. Everything was easy to disassemble, clean, and put back together. It turned out the motor was just seized from sitting a long time. cleaning the brush es and contact area on the armature did the trick. No new motor needed. Try that today. With new cars, the motos are sealed. Throw out the old one and put n a new one.

    • @phantomstarlight1366
      @phantomstarlight1366 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@1940limited Got to love our "environmentally friendly" society today right?

    • @chrisbryden8102
      @chrisbryden8102 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      These batteries are practically bombs. In reality it should be certified technicians servicing these batteries otherwise your opening yourself to a huge liability.
      Moral of the story Tesla should be on the hook for a failure under normal use.

  • @Triggerboy78
    @Triggerboy78 ปีที่แล้ว +630

    The funny thing is, what Tesla doesnt understand is the damage for Tesla by not repairing this car under warranty is much higher than 21k$. I wonder how many people decide to buy another EV instead of a Tesla because of this behavior.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I bought another EV because, behind all of the razmatazz surrounding Tesla their products aren't very good.

    • @blackrifle6736
      @blackrifle6736 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      *To extend your assertion: Imagine all the people who considered an EV, did some cost/benefit research and then said: "Naw. Not getting into that."*

    • @bartkorol611
      @bartkorol611 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Why would get an EV to start? What an awful decision.

    • @runed0s86
      @runed0s86 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      ​@@bartkorol611electric vehicles are a good idea, but not if you buy it from Tesla. You can go 500k miles without an oil change with an electric vehicle. That's 10k saved on oil changes. They use electric, not gas. That's another 50k saved depending on the price of electricity and gas. You can charge off the sun with a solar panel BTW.

    • @reinoud6377
      @reinoud6377 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Quite! Never a Tesla for me

  • @000polsris000
    @000polsris000 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    As a dealership technician for a german car manufacturer who is proud of my diagnostic abilities, I feel you man. The manufacturers don't even give us all the resources to completely diagnose issues and make more component level repairs, just enough to replace assemblies. That being said, it has been shared that a training program is on the horizon to give us the qualifications, skill and knowledge to repair batteries, not just replace the whole thing. I'm a firm believer of right to repair, so this makes me happy.

    • @flying_rabbi
      @flying_rabbi ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hopefully it's not just lip service, and it actually materialises

    • @robertsmith2956
      @robertsmith2956 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They would first have to redesign the batteries since they don't come apart without ripping them apart.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@robertsmith2956 the Tesla batteries are completely encased in foam and glue and welded shut. Great for them, but terrible for the customer

    • @dguy321
      @dguy321 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@thedopplereffect00doesn't seem to protect them from the rain though :-O

    • @fightingblind
      @fightingblind ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@robertsmith2956I would expect that he is referring to training on batteries from whatever German automotive company he is working for, not Tesla

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    The Fox was cute. I purchased a New Kia Sportage in 2017 and what I was amazed at was in the selling process it was suggested to me that the trend these days was to offload the car within 4 years. This was a car being sold with a 7 year warranty. The old fashioned idea you may keep a vehicle for 10 to 15 years is seen as yesterday thinking. And I keep thinking that so many companies must watch how Apple does business and it gives them huge ideas to basically do the same. Get customers use to very high cycling of new products even if you don't need to upgrade.

    • @ckeel12201
      @ckeel12201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You watch Louis vids? :o I love all your redback spider tank vids lol

    • @gusmonster59
      @gusmonster59 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have 2011 Kia Soul. It's still driving fine. I've had repairs done as necessary (NOT at a dealer). I like the car and see no need to replace it with something else.

    • @adamofblastworks1517
      @adamofblastworks1517 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two things.
      1. If you're offloading it that soon, you're obviously going to be selling it to someone else. So even if that was the trend, everyone would just be buying each other's mildly used cars.
      2. How many people can both afford to cycle their car every 4 years, and actually want to do that? People wealthy enough to do that are probably going to buy a more expensive car and use it for longer, or are looking specifically for fancier cars, which they will want to keep. Apple products are one thing (and are also stupid, but that's a tangent), but they don't cost tens of thousands of dollars like a CAR.
      Who do they think they are fooling? Or am I under that big of a rock? People are stupid, but most people don't have the ability to facilitate that specific kind of stupidity on that scale, at least when it comes to personal finances.

    • @briancavanaugh7604
      @briancavanaugh7604 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Combined with 7-10 year car loans and what could go wrong? I mean sure you can just roll that loan into a new one every four year..............................You will own nothing and be happy!

    • @TheNewFaceOfHSP
      @TheNewFaceOfHSP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@adamofblastworks1517 Hello, as a guy driving a Kia because of cheapness, but could afford a couple of them, I'm going to offload next year. It'll be hitting 3 years, and the new cars are just safer and better. It's crazy what is happening in active lane assist e.g. I come from a poor upbringing and we drove cars until they were 20. That sounds like a good thing, but it's actually horrible. I would probably never own anything beyound 5-6 years anymore, not even the biggest Audi E-tron.
      I'll just offload it to somebody with less income (which is a good thing) and drive the newest. My family's safety is top priority and it's the primary reason I upgrade, the secondary being increasingly selfdriving assistance packages.
      Next one is going to be a Volve XC40 electric or a Polestar 2 I think. Kia has made me sad with their poor app support and slow software.

  • @emmittbishop4783
    @emmittbishop4783 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    I was an ATM tech for about 10 yrs. A common issue we would have was a tolerance problem in the unit that scans the bills before dispensing them. This part is called the note qualifier. The standard pratice was to replace the qualifier. This costs thousands of dollars and takes hours to replace. I finally decided to figure out exactly what was happening. I found that it was caused by a 5 cent plastic clip braking. I probably fixed a hundred of them after discovering this. It takes 5 minutes and costs the price of a service tech coming out. So about $150 at the time. I fail to understand why it took me figuring it out when so many people worked there before me.

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 ปีที่แล้ว

      People are lazy and stupid.
      I work in a non technical job with a lot of machines.
      I was told to switch one on with 2 red switches, and a green one.
      I asked what the unlabelled switched did.
      The experienced trainer had no idea, and did not care.
      This attitude is normal.
      I fell kike an alien visiting a planet of idiots.

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      People don’t care if it’s not their money. That’s why.

    • @JohnDoe-qz1ql
      @JohnDoe-qz1ql ปีที่แล้ว +37

      No one else had enough spark of curiosity.

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Where is the incentive to do it?
      Imagine, that the plastic clip breaking is what makes it stop working, but the plastic clip breaks because of some other issue you aren't noticing, like wear in the bearings of the bill feed mechanism.
      So you replace the clip, call it fixed, and a couple weeks later, it breaks again. Then the customer is pissed and you might have got in shit with your boss. Meanwhile, if you replace the whole unit, the bank doesn't GAF about the cost, and you've covered your ass.
      🤷‍♂

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@Nevir202
      That’s why you can barely afford anything nowadays.
      Cuz spending thousands of dollars to fix simple issues is better than the effort to do it right.

  • @Brutaltstygg55
    @Brutaltstygg55 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    If we are to take an older Volvo, the company in Sweden boasted about how the car could cope in the rain. Volvo enlisted the help of the fire brigade who sprayed water from three different directions to see how water resistant the car was and a reporter sat inside the car and filmed everything that happened

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Ford has a car wash type apparatus that sprays very high pressure water from top and both sides and relatively low pressure from the bottom at all of their factories. Every car drives through it during QA to make sure it is water tight.

    • @olemissjim
      @olemissjim ปีที่แล้ว

      Volvo went bankrupt over a decade ago and is a shell owned by the Chinese to dump cheap Chinese automobiles

    • @Brutaltstygg55
      @Brutaltstygg55 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@rightwingsafetysquad9872 That's good, but after the film was shown, Volvo became the best-selling car this year. It was 1985 and it was easy to repair cars at that time

    • @HermanIdzerda
      @HermanIdzerda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a time when a company called Tulip computers put their computers into a tropical chamber for some time to ensure they were reliable enough to hand out to customers. I guess that was a REAL long time ago.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I remember a Volkswagen Beetle advert of a guy driving it into a river or something, and the car just floating away, 100% dry on the inside

  • @williamgeorgefraser
    @williamgeorgefraser ปีที่แล้ว +247

    As a small boat marine engineer with nearly 50 years experience, I've spent my whole life taking things apart and repairing them; Starter motors, alternators, bow thrusters, fridges, gas cookers, virtually everything you can find in a cabin cruiser. Some manufacturers have made parts impossible to open so need replacing, but so much money can be saved by easy repairs.

    • @robinspanier7017
      @robinspanier7017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats amazing, 50 years

    • @satibel
      @satibel ปีที่แล้ว +12

      yes, the amount of things where a 2-5 bucks switch fails making it not start is huge.
      luckily I know how to fix stuff, but there's probably at least 10 devices that I fixed with a switch or some consumable part (like carbon brushes and fuses) that failed. and I see a lot of people just throw those away.

    • @princessmarlena1359
      @princessmarlena1359 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “They don’t make them like they used to!”

    • @jonathanbarron10
      @jonathanbarron10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can you create some videos involving this I'd be down to give a follow lol

    • @escivencain8653
      @escivencain8653 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Working at a car shop showed me that things could be fixed, working at a shipyard taught me anything could be fixed

  • @robertshussey
    @robertshussey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Thank you for carrying our story. Totally agree with you. We have since given up on the car, and purchased another brand. We had enough of Tesla - they are not a loyal brand and treated us terribly and we have heard from other people who have had similar treatment.
    Also point of note - it’s GBP (not brexit or Scottish pounds)
    👍🌧️

    • @10Wk3y84R
      @10Wk3y84R 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Good boy points?

    • @adamarzo559
      @adamarzo559 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for being a guinea pig for the rest of us, mate. Someone has to take a loss so the rest of us know not to purchase and sadly it was you this time. It's for the greater good, though.

  • @catherinestewart2174
    @catherinestewart2174 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Louis: Absolutely agree with you. Here in UK front-load washing machines are almost universal (as opposed to US top-loaders). Tub that rotating drum sits in used to be two halves bolted together. As the weak point on washers is the rear bearing (and pcb), which when worn renders machine unusable, it could be replaced cheaply by a competent diy-er taking out the drum, unbolting the halves and replacing bearing and seal ($20-25). Manufacturers (inc the likes of Bosch) then started using welded tubs on the ground that these were more 'reliable' (less likely to leak, presumably - though there's no evidence the previous design was weaker) - thus when that small, cheap part is worn the whole machine has to be scrapped. It's crazy, disgraceful built-in obsolescence. And yet these manufacturers will virtue-signal their green credentials! Green my arse.

    • @peppyzacat5179
      @peppyzacat5179 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Here in Austria, the homeowner asked me if I can look at the house's washing machine that was showing an error (I'm an electrician). The manufacturer is Siemens. Look up on the internet, the motor's coals were worn out. Ordered new ones, changed them, but the error wouldn't go. We found out that in order to clear the error it was necessary to turn the program knob in a specific way that only Siemens knew. So we had to call a technician from them and charged us 120 euros just to clear the error. Fucking scam.

    • @ladyeowyn42
      @ladyeowyn42 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Our LG washer bearing went bad at only 3 years in. Disgraceful.

    • @robertwilliams8032
      @robertwilliams8032 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ebac make a machine designed with repair in mind and it is a UK based manufactured company th-cam.com/video/c1c470Rzvr8/w-d-xo.html&t This will be my next machine when my excellent Beko finally gives out.

    • @troytreeguy
      @troytreeguy ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s green, green in their pockets!

    • @troytreeguy
      @troytreeguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are many ways to repair beyond component replacement.

  • @Zachary-Daiquiri
    @Zachary-Daiquiri ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I don't necessarily have the time or interest in troubleshooting most of my own things, but I want to be able to bring it to a repair shop and have it repaired by someone who can. This is why I will always support right to repair. Its good for the culture, the environment, and most importantly the wallet!

    • @bravojr
      @bravojr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "You will own nothing, and you will be happy", it seems they just can't crack that happy part huh....

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug ปีที่แล้ว

      I fix anything I can from my laptop to appliances to my BMW and Mercedes. I have easily saved over $30k in my lifetime doing my own labor. And now, with TH-cam DIY videos, it's 100% better! That's why they want to kill the right to repair.

    • @karanoelle4819
      @karanoelle4819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the right look at it. While not EVERYONE should be invested in repairing everything they own, we should still have a community that accepts this as normal and that this is the better route to go.
      You may not have the time, energy, or even mental capacity to know how to do something, but having someone fix it for you is the best alternative. Just swapping out and buying a new one isn't a repair, it costs more, and overall, only helps companies get away with it because they know they can do it.

    • @drivewayy
      @drivewayy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems in great part like the masses now have just enough to waste on fully replacing a item....unlike in years past there wasn't enough average income to that, folks were forced to self repair.....now a days, as there is less desperation, those people revert to the natural lazy tendencies of the masses; The wealthy and/or poorly financially responsible now have enough money to waste on a vehicle that costs 1 full year's wage of the average American's income. Businesses are just pushing the profit boundaries as far as the average Joe will let them. Louis is here trying to promote the masses from being lazy short-sighted fools that are getting taken advantage of my the peddlers of materialistic goods. Louis is a beacon fighting the good fight. But year after year people as a societal whole (from an anthropological standpoint), are their own worst enemy. It's people like us and Louis that have to continually pull crayons of these idiots noses.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it is eminently possible to repair burned out many types of LED light. I fixed a LED batten that had sufferecd water damage just by replacing a few surface mount LEDs.@@jpb2359

  • @Fredjikrang
    @Fredjikrang ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I actually ran into an issue similar to this the other day. The odometer in my car is an LCD and it stopped working. A repair in the shop would cost $1,500 and they would just replace the whole instrument cluster. I found a video online that showed how to fix the issue by resoldering a few pins. The only difference was about 10 minutes of removing a few screws, resoldering the pins, a putting the screws back. But somehow it is better to replace the whole thing.

    • @baldisaerodynamic9692
      @baldisaerodynamic9692 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      this may be some legal issue on the dealers end, that its considered tampering with the odometer.
      regardless, its still said someone can fix it for 10 minutes of their time for pennies and they dont offer that

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@baldisaerodynamic9692 Nah. At least in most USA States, all you have to do is note that the odometer was changed when you register the car each year. Otherwise it would be illegal to fix a car with a broken odometer. It's only illegal to tamper with the odometer if you lie about the actual mileage.

    • @baldisaerodynamic9692
      @baldisaerodynamic9692 ปีที่แล้ว

      i get that, i was just giving a speculative angle. some dealers may just not want to deal with that, or maybe theres someother regulation. or they are just wanting to make you pay more.
      also may not be recognized as a legit repair by the manufactuer, which if they do admit it is a legit repair they could be liable by admitting its "a known issue"
      @@darrennew8211

    • @jaimebond
      @jaimebond ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here gas level stop working, nissan dealer wanted 1,250 usd to replace the cluster, i just installed an analog meter for $50

    • @luisdetomaso867
      @luisdetomaso867 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@baldisaerodynamic9692 soldering broken connections will not change the displayed miles and is therefore not tampering. Tampering means changing the number

  • @jamezday
    @jamezday ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Preach brother 🙌 I'm so glad that you're spreading the right to repair, built in obsolescence needs to be resisted at all levels

    • @Emiliapocalypse
      @Emiliapocalypse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯 💯💯

    • @kender1412
      @kender1412 ปีที่แล้ว

      Planned obsolescence isn't as widespread as you might think and eventually, anything will become obsolete. Typically, engineers are working on trying to make mechanical things last LONGER and fight against wear problems. The point has not been reached where, say, engines last so long that they don't make manufacturing companies lots of money, especially when you add parts and service. Many trade in their cars after a year or two or lease for a couple years so they're getting all the fancy new crap in the infotainment centers, anyway. Wet sleeved engines WOULD make it cheaper to do rebuilds because you'd just need swapping out slugs and jugs, but nobody (in a rare exception) is really willing to do all that when they can get something that's more comfortable on the inside.

    • @Telleelle
      @Telleelle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kender1412 digital devices like phones are rendered obsolete because the software is programmed to not function on older devices, for no reason at all. Perfectly good devices with all the features necessary for most apps. Obsolete by date alone.
      Pc games and other programs are build lazy, because people can just by new hardware that can run the unoptimized code.
      They try to convince the end user that it is because it's a new game and thus require more, but community often fix the games and prove them wrong. Others can actually run fine on older machines, but requirements are defined higher.
      Other hardware is build with the intend to break just after warranty run out, and companies use quite some resources to make this happen.
      It is partly the end user fault, because they throw away stuff after a year or 2 and must have the newest stuff, and then there is no reason to make something that lasts.
      But they only consider the people who have taken too much money from their company, leaving less for the employers who actually carry the company.
      Those are the people who buy a new car. Others have to buy a used car, that is braking all the time because of crap parts.
      New cars have become cheaper when we consider inflation, but they have also become crap. People think they can drive faster today because new cars are super cars compared to the old days.. they are so wrong.

    • @san_1044
      @san_1044 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kender1412it's everywhere bro

    • @san_1044
      @san_1044 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kender1412even the technical bits are being delayed so that they can create 15 new generations of phones

  • @tveggemeyer8103
    @tveggemeyer8103 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    What I believe is going on here is that Tesla gets the customer to pay for a new battery. Then Tesla is gracious enough to "dispose" of it for them. They then send it to their battery repair depot, put a couple of hundred/thousand dollars into repairs, and finally put it into a different warranty repair car or charge the next schmuck $21,000 for it. It's recycling and reselling all at the same time.

    • @kimchristensen2175
      @kimchristensen2175 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yup... They sell you an exchange/rebuild instead of repairing yours.

    • @bencze465
      @bencze465 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Funnily it's a method that is already used - trading in a bad component for a reconditioned one instantly, paying the reconditioning price. It's a practice used for older / used car repair where it makes sense to repair the component instead of getting a new one. Tesla just added the ripping off customer part apparently.

    • @Tipman2OOO
      @Tipman2OOO ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow I wouldn't doubt it!

    • @apyllyon
      @apyllyon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bencze465Many spare parts,especially aftermarket stuff follows the refurbishment rule. Many alternators and starters are refurbished because theres so much circulation from the consumer base it´s whole lot cheaper to just replace the damaged components and throw it back to circulation, its cheaper but not always problem free, i had to replace my cars alternator and the refurbished one had smaller than the original (in terms of diameter) belt pulley wheel.

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah they put the used stuff into the powerwalls.

  • @wtimber
    @wtimber ปีที่แล้ว +196

    There’s no feeling quite like finding that the only thing wrong with a $200.00 dishwasher PCB is a $2.00 relay that can be easily replaced. 5 years later when it finally dies for some other reason I wasn’t even mad. It owed me nothing at that point. What a great feeling that first wash with the new relay was!

    • @sup1e
      @sup1e ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It was prob ~15yrs ago but I def. remember the Victory :) feeling from an early yt vid teaching me how to get the dryer belt back on the drum--after removing 2 screws and a few minutes time. Most likely would've bought a new dryer otherwise lol

    • @Vapolamp
      @Vapolamp ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Had this same problem with a Frigidaire dishwasher a few years ago. It was for sale on CL for $20 and pretty much brand new. Ended up getting
      it for $10 and fixing it for $10. Always a good feeling.

    • @apocalyptosoldier5527
      @apocalyptosoldier5527 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yesterday I took a solenoid inlet valve out of an old dishwasher so I can go put it in my own old dishwasher.

    • @MatthewCenance
      @MatthewCenance ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dishwashers actually have PCBs? I thought that was something The Sims 4 made up.

    • @lexecomplexe4083
      @lexecomplexe4083 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol this is about the Bob countertop dishwasher isn't it?

  • @timothysemple4740
    @timothysemple4740 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    OK, you convinced me, I'm making an appointment for a dental checkup and cleaning.

    • @km077
      @km077 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Speaking of the devil, I probably should too.

    • @hx0d
      @hx0d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@km077I should as well

    • @JamesDecker7
      @JamesDecker7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Do it! I regret skipping significant dental care for several years😅

    • @spookyghostking608
      @spookyghostking608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True :D

    • @ebx100
      @ebx100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!

  • @heilokcd2703
    @heilokcd2703 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    As a part of Gen Z I can tell you confidently: I do not know a person of my generation that would call a repair stupid. It is literally economically and ecologically meaningful and nessecary. But maybe that's just because I am not rich. Most people of my generation have barely enough money to buy stuff once and we'd like to use them more than just a bit. Thank you very much.

    • @namangoy
      @namangoy ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same, agree 100%

    • @mars3168
      @mars3168 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      1000%

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie ปีที่แล้ว +36

      As a gen-z myself… I know quite a few who immediately replace stuff and never even look at a repair

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I have seen!! A LOT! A LOT of people just drive and abuse their cars until they are no more worth nothing, so they replace it. Gen z is worse as last generations when it comes to car care

    • @suparosc02
      @suparosc02 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm 28 and I don't know what generation I am... but I care about my motorcycle more than I care about myself...

  • @custos3249
    @custos3249 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Always loved the "you must be poor" responses. No better or faster self-indictment. And it's not limited to that they're bad with money, too stupid to figure anything out on their own or otherwise think for themselves, believe the ability to be stupid with money makes them superior, and are happy to be a product themselves. Almost as if there's a reason for how old the saying "a fool and their money are soon parted" is. Even better when their only response is yet another "you sound poor." Tell me your greatest fear without telling me your greatest fear. Oh, look, 1789 France.

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Ending is better than mending" - a mantra taught to the sheeple in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. We are living the dystopian sci-fi books of the past

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you actually know what happened in the French or any other revolution? The people who drive them aren't dissimilar from the people virtue signaling within the old system

    • @dantesinfernopurgatory7826
      @dantesinfernopurgatory7826 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Let them eat cake..." Cranial removal then ensued....

    • @RCTPatriot75
      @RCTPatriot75 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gen Z is, for the most part, the worst. They go on and on about carbon footprints, climate change, the environment yet all they do is consume, dispose and consume some more.

    • @NightMotorcyclist
      @NightMotorcyclist ปีที่แล้ว +8

      These people making such responses deserve to be hurt in the current economic uncertainty because they are extremely irresponsible. A lot of wealthy people remain wealthy because they are careful with money and learn how to invest or grow their money.

  • @NarrikBwah
    @NarrikBwah ปีที่แล้ว +591

    Eventually, if things like this keep happening, it'll be to the point where car companies will be like, oh a bolt is missing, replace the whole vehicle.

    • @lbochtler
      @lbochtler ปีที่แล้ว +67

      hub cap fell off... looks like you will be needing a new car unfortunately.

    • @Being_Joe
      @Being_Joe ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Oil went bad.

    • @Jakommo
      @Jakommo ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Apple presents its brand new iCar
      edit: fun fact.. they actually are working on a car..

    • @treelineresearch3387
      @treelineresearch3387 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bolt? Everything permanently riveted and glued, same idea as phones.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought we'd have to wait for Apple to release a car for this to happen, but as usual, Tesla is proving that they're the Apple of cars.

  • @JOshj5hawk
    @JOshj5hawk ปีที่แล้ว +52

    My motto was always "well if it's broken, I can't make it any worse"
    Fixed a lot of stuff that way.

    • @mikefrachel8292
      @mikefrachel8292 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Before I call anyone I always ask myself "what are they going to do first?" Then I do that!

    • @vipervidsgamingplus5723
      @vipervidsgamingplus5723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always turn it off, turn it on and if it doesn't work I typically hit it. Worked every time before.

    • @phantomkate6
      @phantomkate6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And I've learned so much by making broken things more broken, too

    • @MrEnyecz
      @MrEnyecz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although I agree in general, there is a state, from which someone with more experience/knowledge could bring the thing back to life, but your repair attempt makes it so broken that the stuff dies. So you CAN make it worse. :)

  • @robm.4512
    @robm.4512 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Bravo Louis, as a now retired mech engineer who spent his working life in R&D I couldn’t agree with you more.
    I’ve always repaired on the basis that if it was designed by a human and assembled by a human then it can be repaired by a human.
    Mostly it pays off, which is nice.

  • @PixelPariah
    @PixelPariah ปีที่แล้ว +103

    The funny part is that a lot of these companies who do planned obsolescence and would rather customers just re-buy a product instead of fixing it also claim to be going green. What a world.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly💯!!!

    • @4m4n40
      @4m4n40 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s not only a environmental issue with all these trendy companies, there’s also extremely immoral practices that get overlooked, especially involving 'kids', which is a word the government loves using to push through shady legislation.

    • @Moon_Presence
      @Moon_Presence ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah especially Apple, talking about how like their whole iPhone is made from recycled materials but then there's going to go ahead and throw away obsolete MacBooks any landfill

  • @someoneelse2106
    @someoneelse2106 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Your channel has inspired me and my son in electronics repair. I'm a prior mechanic who was always nervous about the electrical side of repair. You've been inspirational in our lives. I really appreciate your hard work on this channel.

    • @cherrelleg8276
      @cherrelleg8276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go for it. Electronics are going to be inter graded into all life they are making smart cities. Look up iota crypto learn how to code too. It will be profitable and something u can pass down to your kids

  • @2Large4U
    @2Large4U ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I’m a service engineer for a major auto mfg., you’re spot on! I love diagnosing and repairing; it’s infuriating when engineering tells us to replace components over repair.

    • @Redmanticore
      @Redmanticore ปีที่แล้ว +18

      and the same corpos have big cat sized letters on their ads and internet sites that they are sustainable and responsible and love environment and...

    • @ErcoleBellucci
      @ErcoleBellucci ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Its hilarious when in college and some corp talks about Climate or sustainability business when they just replace things without repairing.
      I think 90% of business in US have pr about Climate/Sustainability theme but none of them have a department about repairing.
      If gov really cared or still cares they should implement repairing regulation for every tech device company

    • @TheZiZaZo
      @TheZiZaZo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do they say to replace rather than repair? What is their argument? Seems ridiculous if you have a legit service engineer but they say don't repair it. Like why

    • @beepbop6697
      @beepbop6697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheZiZaZothey get a lot more money selling an entire new part "assembly", as compared to repairing a small piece of the larger "broken" assembly.

    • @RonLo
      @RonLo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like when an alternator is going bad they just replace it right? But many times you just need to replace the zenner diode inside the alternator which is very cheap.

  • @Gildermesh
    @Gildermesh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Many years ago my Boss owned a Rolls Royce which broke down on a trip through Ireland. He phoned them up and they flew a technician out by Helicopter to diagnose the fault, they then flew the part in a repaired the car. He told me that after several months he had not been billed and chased them up, only to be told he must nave been mistaken Roll Royce's do not break down so there could of course be no charge, since then he as owned two more. A lesson to other car manufacturers.

    • @vDungeon
      @vDungeon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The prices are non comparable.

    • @0JayDoubleU
      @0JayDoubleU 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats pretty awesome

  • @aymanjc4146
    @aymanjc4146 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    As someone who lives in Scotland that I can confirm that it rains 14 hours out of 24 hours.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 ปีที่แล้ว

      If rain + Tesla = bad battery problem, then Selling Tesla + Scotland should = illegal.

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oh no, my car got water on it! A pine cone also fell on it. It's surely done for.

    • @chinkasuyaro8983
      @chinkasuyaro8983 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Dwigt_Rortugal Not covered under warranty. Act of tree.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Dwigt_Rortugal Someday in the near future, "We have found that your drove the vehicle on paved public roadways. This has voided your warranty. That will be $20,000."

    • @chinkasuyaro8983
      @chinkasuyaro8983 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kelticd5397 On the upside, they have 25 hours in their day!

  • @alanspektor274
    @alanspektor274 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    You’ve been a huge inspiration to me for getting into repair. I recently was shown how to solder and (with someone’s help) was able to reattach the charging port to the motherboard of a 1st gen amazon kindle. Now it works and I’m so happy. Later, I’m going to swap two Iphone 5s screens to try to revitalize my cousin’s old phone.
    I’ve had my iphone 6s repaired 3-4 times now because I refuse to unnecessarily upgrade to receive less hardware and worse features.
    Your repair advocacy has stretched into other parts of my life too. A while back my mom wanted to spend a couple hundred dollars to have someone come and repair our dryer. After convincing her, we were able to fix it. The problem? A sock, stuck in the lint area.
    These are just some recent examples, I have many more. Your message is powerful and resonates with more people than you might think :)

    • @lokelaufeyson9931
      @lokelaufeyson9931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i didnt have the tools to repair my headset but i figured out how to do it and payed 12$ to a service guy that did it. The headset still works fine today

  • @xp_pk
    @xp_pk ปีที่แล้ว +412

    We need to get repair taught in schools so the next generation learns the importance of having a right to do it.

    • @RKZX2
      @RKZX2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      When i was in school (graduated in 82) there was graphic arts, wood shop, metal shop, auto mechanic classes. Now if you want to learn these, you have to go to college & pay out the ass.

    • @wafflesarelove
      @wafflesarelove ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@RKZX2 I graduated in 2011 and we still had all those classes. It's a consumer problem where we are taught it's easier/cheaper to throw away rather than repair

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      If you think they were phased out accidentally or by chance instead of purposefully, you couldn't be more wrong. Status quo for the past 50'ish years is that the government does not want a capable or aware populous.

    • @southside1975
      @southside1975 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why they took it out of schools they are evil.

    • @goosewithagibus
      @goosewithagibus ปีที่แล้ว

      School isn't for learning really, it's for indoctrination. Why teach the brainless consumers to fix their stuff when we can sell them shit?

  • @stevebrown8869
    @stevebrown8869 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Louis: You've outdone yourself!! Not only have you fully addressed the topic at hand (& Handily!), but you've also managed to bring in your off screen wife, cat & fish as well as introduce us to a new member of your family & fully embrace his existence, vis a vis we all have a rightful place in this world.. Raw talent!! Thanks for so many informative and just plain fun videos!

  • @RD-io6sm
    @RD-io6sm ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Winning right to repair may turn the tables for consumers vs corporations/manufacturers. Keep fighting the good fight Louis.

    • @sjsomething4936
      @sjsomething4936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, thanks to Louis and the other crusaders who have taken up the fight for right to repair! They’ve got tenacity and balls of steel.

    • @he8535
      @he8535 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got e Lenovo laptop and the repair shop did it's the whole motherboard that's broken somehow and it kinda works just unusable as a laptop

  • @shawkindustries9521
    @shawkindustries9521 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    This is why I still drive a 25yo car. The risk/cost ratio makes no sense for anything new. Thanks for keeping up the fight Louis 🙌

    • @nikolasscheeks
      @nikolasscheeks ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How do you maintain it?

    • @andrewvirtue5048
      @andrewvirtue5048 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unfortunately my 22yo rust bucket is falling to shambles. My rear subframe is gone, literally rusted gone. My trunk could fall off at any time.
      And I need a newer 2014.

    • @shawkindustries9521
      @shawkindustries9521 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nikolasscheeks tbh I lucked out, only had 90k miles on it when I got it last year, and a reliable car. I've done all maintenance myself since getting it: brakes, new muffler, oil etc.

    • @shawkindustries9521
      @shawkindustries9521 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@andrewvirtue5048 I feel you bro, living in the rust belt sucks. I keep a winter and a summer vehicle for that reason. Undercoating your vehicle helps a lot in the long run though.

    • @kay110
      @kay110 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fully agree with the older car... I was worried about my now 23yr old car which although has many electronic components, but compared to todays cars, it's quite simple AND has been reliable. Over 22yrs of ownership (from new), the yearly cost has been minimal. Custom electronic components are the downfall of most repairs these days.

  • @rogerphelps9939
    @rogerphelps9939 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Right to repair legislation must be made even harder on the manufacturers.

    • @phoneticalballsack
      @phoneticalballsack ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or you could just stop buying from those companies.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK as long as there are alternatives.@@phoneticalballsack

    • @DaylightRobberyCA
      @DaylightRobberyCA ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@phoneticalballsackbut they all do it.

    • @phoneticalballsack
      @phoneticalballsack ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DaylightRobberyCA so stop buying from them

    • @DaylightRobberyCA
      @DaylightRobberyCA ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@phoneticalballsack guess I’ll go starve and die in a cave because I can’t participate in the economy.

  • @gaplow1187
    @gaplow1187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love that you take your cat for dental cleanings; it warms my vet tech heart. And not just for job security reasons. Also your grey fox is very cute. Thumbs up to keeping him around to guard the fishies.

    • @lsswappedcessna
      @lsswappedcessna 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Louis has a menagerie.

  • @AlphaMale_1
    @AlphaMale_1 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Louis is correct. I am an electrical engineer (Aerospace) and it generally makes sense to check the item's repairablity -- often there is a simple problem that saves time and cost, and it's truly a "green" approach.
    Considering entropy, the lowest cost solution is the greenest and least impacting to the environment.

    • @Operational117
      @Operational117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Funny that you mentioned “entropy”, because I firmly believe that entropy will ultimately be the downfall of eternally profit-seeking corporations: every attempt to earn a profit will have diminishing returns and eventually become economically unviable.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're spot on. Large component failure is usually not the problem when I make my hvac repairs. 90% of the time, I'm swapping out capacitors.

    • @drivewayy
      @drivewayy ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems in great part like the masses now have just enough to waste on fully replacing a item....unlike in years past there wasn't enough average income to that, folks were forced to self repair.....now a days, as there is less desperation, those people revert to the natural lazy tendencies of the masses; The wealthy and/or poorly financially responsible now have enough money to waste on a vehicle that costs 1 full year's wage of the average American's income. Businesses are just pushing the profit boundaries as far as the average Joe will let them. Louis is here trying to promote the masses from being lazy short-sighted fools that are getting taken advantage of by the peddlers of materialistic goods. Louis is a beacon fighting the good fight. But year after year people as a societal whole (from an anthropological standpoint), are their own worst enemy. It's people like us and Louis that have to continually pull crayons of these idiots noses.

  • @MarcSGA
    @MarcSGA ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Louis & Linus hammering this point home are a big part of why I have started to repair just about anything I can when it breaks instead of replacing it.

    • @wayward03
      @wayward03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the best things LTT has ever done.

  • @mdquaglia
    @mdquaglia ปีที่แล้ว +81

    A thought just occurred to me: Ariens, specifically for their snow throwers, has parts manuals available online going back at least 30 years, probably closer to 50 or 60 years.
    Let's hold up Ariens as an example of what companies ought to be doing.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There are still a lot of companies that do follow that ethos, but they are not the ones that make news or hype like Apple / Tesla.
      I just had reason to be searching for repair on an older oil pump from Danfoss, all the specs, datasheets, even a youtube channel showing how to bleed it etc.
      Then there's my aunt trying to get her Indesit washing machine fixed, the controller board needs replacing. Surprisingly common point of failure on newer style machines, and this one is somehow serial locked to machine. Can't simply replace with a part off ebay for example, need to recode one of the chips on the board.

    • @FlabbyTabby
      @FlabbyTabby ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@benwu7980 Ah yes, can't wait for someone to explain how that serial number locking is actually genius engineering or something.

    • @jonc4403
      @jonc4403 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@benwu7980 Parts being serial locked is one of the most serious repair issues today. It needs to be illegal.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonc4403 I can ever so slightly understand it on a smartphone / tablet / computer to keep private data .. private.
      On a washing machine.. nope, there's nothing there, unless I want want to keep my preference for CK boxers private (joke)

  • @phillipstephens4522
    @phillipstephens4522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I HATE not being able to get things repaired. About 2007 or 2008 we called a repairman for an old tv (back before flat tv screens) and they refused to repair it because "they couldn"t make any money from the repairs." They just told us to throw it away and buy another one. It seems like such a waste to me. I am not rich and can't afford to replace something when it breaks. I'm not mechanically inclined and I do want things like kitchen appliances repaired and not thrown away.

  • @SlavTiger
    @SlavTiger ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Rossman, you are the one who gives me a sliver of hope for humanity.

    • @paulf1071
      @paulf1071 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree. Video was a bit too long, but the take away message should be as follows:
      We all need to start shifting back to...
      (1) designing products that last a little longer,
      (2) are a little easier to open up,
      (3) are a little simpler to repair,
      (4) are a little easier to find repair manuals & spare parts for,
      (5) and crucially... slowly move towards a more circular economy, easing the burden on the planet, and our wallets.

  • @backlogbuddies
    @backlogbuddies ปีที่แล้ว +69

    When I worked for a car company (won't say which because they Google themselves constantly to track down former employees talking shit to sue them) we had an EV that had a battery not meant to be in humid environments or temperatures above 85f. We had so many people calling in with complaints of their battery sucking within a year because they had trouble holding a charge. Turns out the cells were dying because they lived in a humid environment above 80f.

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That’s like 80 % of the planet, or something to that effect. And yet, the Zoe I rented has strong ventilators to keep the battery‘s temperature down…

    • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
      @PrototypeSpaceMonkey ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ArDeeMee Yeah but don't Zoe's mainly have rental batteries, even if you buy them? I guess car companies care more about battery life if they're still their property.

    • @ArDeeMee
      @ArDeeMee ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PrototypeSpaceMonkey Yeah, they’re technically „rented“ for about 70 €/month or something (last time I checked). I see it more for what it is: A glorified insurance. When capacity is down to 70 %, they’ll exchange it for a new one. The old battery then gets overhauled, because you really only need to change out the individual cells that are broken. Then it goes back into circulation, probably as another replacement battery.

    • @dewdude
      @dewdude ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Someone needed to lose a job over this because who is stupid enough to think anyplace in this country stays dry and cold all year round.

    • @javaskull88
      @javaskull88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t work well when it’s hot and humid, either.

  • @jobsgarage
    @jobsgarage ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You hit the nail right on its head. Please keep fighting for the right to repair.

  • @AriaLaurel
    @AriaLaurel ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some of these problems need to be solved in the product design phase. Some of these small repairs are getting super expensive because it can take hours of labor to even get to the part. Sometimes entire products need to be replaced because for the sake of being smaller everything is melded together into a single board.

  • @stupidhatmanjoshua7640
    @stupidhatmanjoshua7640 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I feel this. My washing machine started to leak. I bought it used and have had it for 6 months. My dad said "it might be time to buy a new one" and I sat there like "Hell no, I've had this thing for 6 months. No way in hell am I getting rid of it yet." Diagnose the issue, it's a bad pump. 1 new pump later, works good as when I bought the thing.

    • @trashcatlinol
      @trashcatlinol ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We got a fancy machine with our home. Fancier than I would have bought myself, but you can be certain I'm going to try to fix it before i replace it.
      I could never afford this model... thankfully, it's dead simple to work on so far, despite all the digital stuff. Just took learning the 50 step code to reset the error XD

    • @tacticallemon7518
      @tacticallemon7518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Our Maytag dishwasher had a button fall out
      Not enough to get lost, but enough that pressing the button did nothing
      A screwdriver, a few drops of glue, and about an hour, and i somehow managed to save my aunt and uncle a few hundred

    • @phoenix-tt
      @phoenix-tt ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally fixed several washing machines which all were 10-15 years old.
      Most of them just got leaky connections fixable with $3-5 parts.
      The last thing which broke was caused by a drum wear, called in a technician who fixed it in half an hour and charged $60.
      These things are quite durable.

    • @biglew1161
      @biglew1161 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a dryer 30 years old just a few dollar part and a new 80$ motor and works just as good as new. I have a refrigerator that's probably close to 40 or more I redid the whole auto defrost circuit, the fridge in general may be in efficient now but it still works. I'll try to fix everything I own.

  • @off_mah_lawn2074
    @off_mah_lawn2074 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The greed of all these corporations operating in basically every sector is at truly outrageous levels

  • @Cruznick06
    @Cruznick06 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    I have a degree in environmental sciences and Louis is 100% on the money with greenwashing BS. What we need is to stop throwing literally everything away because it can't be fixed!

    • @Plusle843
      @Plusle843 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, what DO we do with things that manufacturer refuses to fix, and doesn't ALLOW others to fix? Doesn't matter if it's refusal to sell spare parts or refusal to sell diagnostic tools. A guy that WOULD be able to fix it for you - can't. Just keep the broken item forever?

    • @JohnDoesSports
      @JohnDoesSports ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There is hope. The EU is taking measures to ban greenwashing such as carbon offshoring, and thus in the future, the label "climate neutral" will ACTUALLY mean something in that region.

    • @darksidegryphon5393
      @darksidegryphon5393 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Greenwashing greatly aggravates me and is actively making the problem worse.

    • @JohnDoesSports
      @JohnDoesSports ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @darksidegryphon5393 Most of the time, all companies do is move the carbon-heavy parts of production to other countries with more lax regulations on carbon emissions.

    • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
      @PrototypeSpaceMonkey ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember a few years back my country (the Netherlands) had a "scrap subsidy" where you could turn in your old car and get several thousand € discount on a new one, but on the condition that the old one would get scrapped immediately, and never be re-sold. Because "oLd cARs arE dIrTIer ThaN NeW caRs" ...what ACTUALLY happened though was that people turned in cheap, small, economy cars like Smart ForTwo's, Fiat Panda's and Suzuki Alto's and bought big, heavy, green-washed "hybrid-in-name-only" SUV's they couldn't normally afford without the subsidies. Meanwhile, ACTUALLY poor people driving ACTUAL rust buckets who couldn't afford a new car before still couldn't, even with the subsidies. Scrapyards were horrified that they were legally required to destroy perfectly good compact cars, some of them only a few years old.

  • @olavberrig4548
    @olavberrig4548 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You are perfectly right, we should repair much more than we do now. And its sad that our ingenuity is blocked because we are not allowed to repair. Let’s hope everyone will support the “right to repair”

  • @Randerson2409
    @Randerson2409 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I will absolutely put my hands up and say that for most of my life, I very much was the too-cautious type who always assumed I had zero chance of being able to repair or improve my own property. Thankfully, channels like yours have started me on the path to slowly changing that, but it's taking time, and I definitely agree that not getting people into that habit at an early age is a terrible idea

    • @hohenzollern6025
      @hohenzollern6025 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      By age eight I was breaking everything in the house mechanical to see how they work. By age ten, I was putting them back together again. By age 12 I was building my own electronically controlled toys.
      Kids today.... we are doomed.

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have always looked at how likely I am to screw up and the total cost of screwing up as the two main aspects of whether or not I will work on something myself or have someone else work on whatever it is. For example, I am NOT working on the boiler I have in my house. The cost of screwing that up is huge and in that case, also risky. That is something I will leave to professionals. But installing a new blower on my dryer, that was something which I had never even thought about doing before having to do it. There wasn't a big chance of really screwing that up all that badly and even if I did, it would have likely simply meant I needed to buy another blower fan and get a professional to actually stick it in the machine.
      The trick is simply to be ok with the fact that sometimes you will mess up and sometimes you will open something up and see that you really cannot do anything to it with what you know or the tools you have. Once you are ok with that (and know that those "warranty void if removed" stickers are complete BS and nothing more than scare tactics, at least in the US), open stuff up, see what is inside. Even a person with less than average intelligence can see simple problems or ways to improve stuff in many things that someone who is afraid of opening it up will simply trust to a repairman or get a new one.
      Just remember the ludicrous amount of information available at the literal press of a few buttons. Even if you don't know where to start on something, someone on the internet does know. These days it is easier than ever to find such resources.
      caveat: It is _my_ house, so work on the boiler is up to me. Also I had zero experience working on things like dryers prior to that.

    • @RedHaloManiac95
      @RedHaloManiac95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you do any soldering, use leaded solder it’s much easier to work with.

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I grew up really poor. Most of the nice things I had as a teenager I had because other people discarded them and I figured out how to fix them. None of my friends had their own TV, but I had one rescued from a dumpster that worked good.

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@hohenzollern6025In fairness, there are still plenty of kids who take things apart and tinker, especially with so much info on the Internets. Sure, there are a lot of people who are afraid to try, but at least where I live, there are still plenty of whiz kids. The hacker mindset is still thriving.

  • @stoneybaby7366
    @stoneybaby7366 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    AGREE 100%!! I have never had any electronics repair training in my 44 years but never let that stop my from disassembling, troubleshooting and fixing numerous electronics. I didn't get a win on every attempt but have learned a lot in the process. I always figured if it i was going to throw it away anyhow at the end of the day it wasnt any more of a loss if I was unsuccessful.

    • @ShutoStriker
      @ShutoStriker ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I feel the same way @ 40 still and since I was a kid. We didn't have a lot of disposable income back then. If something broke I might not get another one or for a while. Fun little challenges and the glory of bringing something back to life 😄

    • @HarmonyHope7534
      @HarmonyHope7534 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've never really disassembled something, but technically same here. If something I own breaks, I try to repair it with sewing, tape, or glue.
      Even recently I decided to tape together my headphones when they popped apart instead of getting a new one despite it only being five dollars.

    • @ShutoStriker
      @ShutoStriker ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HarmonyHope7534 right on get your monies worth and then some!

    • @ionflow1073
      @ionflow1073 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's about the most logical, level-headed statement that I've heard in a while. I think I'm going to start applying that philosophy to my own problems.

    • @latedateda3790
      @latedateda3790 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also think and do the same. It's a win in a lose situation. I also save certain parts that can be used elsewhere. Done it for years.

  • @lindaward3156
    @lindaward3156 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    When I was a young adult working on our various vehicles, it was a point of admiration to know how to fix your items. The more knowledge you acquired, the better. You did what you could up to and until a repair became beyond your ability/knowledge (whatever it was) and *then* took it to the mechanic. Same with house repairs, or simply fixing the electric can opener. What happened to that? I learned a lot more about how life works just by fixing that simple can opener. It's crazy

    • @chancekahle2214
      @chancekahle2214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know how to do a number of maintenance and repair tasks for my car, but I still take it to a trusted shop instead. 1. My free time is limited. 2. I don't have to buy all the tools and equipment needed only to use them once in a blue moon. 3. My diagnosis of the problem could be wrong, and they may find something else I didn't notice while poking around in there.
      There's nothing wrong with paying people to do work they specialize in so your amatuer self doesn't have to muddle through it. That's the primary benefit of our current economic system.

    • @lindaward3156
      @lindaward3156 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chancekahle2214 Back in my motor head days, vehicles weren't like they are now, no tech, just moving parts. Learning how things work benefited me beyond motor repair. I wouldn't even dream of working on a car of today minus basic maintenance.

  • @prestonpoppenhagen6557
    @prestonpoppenhagen6557 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I stand with you on these issues and hope to see a better tomorrow thank you for your voice bro

  • @jtb3797
    @jtb3797 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    If they admit there’s issues than that opens them up for lawsuits and forceful recalls. Tesla is the greatest example we’ve seen of automakers dodging issues in decades.

    • @omegaslast
      @omegaslast ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you forget about dieselgate? (will kill hundreds due to carcinogens)
      Kia cheaping out on a $50 immobilizer so that 2022 saw 5000% increase in kias stolen and crashed in one year? insurance companies wont insure them? theyre worth scrap now because no one will buy them used?
      Ford Pinto design flaw that ford shipped having a paper where 180 "burn deaths" would occur but it would be cheaper to pay for the lawsuit?
      GM out-of-spec $2 plastic ignition that killed 132 people?
      Tesla is the greatest example??? Wow. I must have missed what happened

    • @ericpatten6204
      @ericpatten6204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was waiting for him to say this!!!!

    • @ClassicGOD
      @ClassicGOD ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yea. My friend bought a KIA advertised as having 7 year warranty. Within the first year is started to behaving strangely (misfiring, losing power), he took it to the dealership and they quoted him for an engine replacement. Turns out the catalytic converter has crumbled and the dust somehow was sucked into the engine destroying the cylinder lining. In a brand new car, clearly a manufacturing defect but he still has to fight them in court.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicGOD
      Wow, I had a kia and my engine went in 7 years. They fixed it no questions asked. I guess I got really lucky.

  • @Armcode
    @Armcode ปีที่แล้ว +82

    When I worked at a major automotive company I would bring up things such as right to repair or 3rd party impacts on communication buses, etc. The responses always was that customers need to bring the vehicle to a dealer and that they shouldn't connect 3rd party devices to the vehicle if they expected it to work properly. There was absolutely no desire/concern to try to be consumer friendly or consider alternate use cases.

    • @Pointlesshandle48
      @Pointlesshandle48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the time the dealerships are clueless and incompetent.

    • @cyxceven
      @cyxceven ปีที่แล้ว

      Companies that old are no longer interested in anything other than their bottom line. Their founders are dead and gone, and the passion left with them. All that is left are money-hungry NPCs that predictably try to gorge on as much money as possible because they weren't raised to create, they were raised to consume.

    • @chaoswarriorbr
      @chaoswarriorbr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @RealCashTok The big issue is people thinking Capitalism=Greed.
      A proper functioning capitalist, with a free market, doesn't include abuses done by greed, Cronyism, Corporatism, etc. so everyone is actually treated equally with respect.

  • @android055
    @android055 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Being an HVAC service tech, I see it more and more every day. Companies are not willing to fix old equipment anymore. Either they don't know how or they would rather make more money by condemning the equipment and replacing it with all brand new equipment. It's crazy to me when I go to a job after another company that has condemned something and i can fix it within an hour of being there..

    • @ClickClack_Bam
      @ClickClack_Bam ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I see a business opportunity for you.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Happened to me as a customer just like that. Tried to sell me a new $15k system and said it couldn't recharge due to the fittings being bad. Sent them away. Another guy who owned his own company filled it for $350 and its been working for 2 years now better than ever.

    • @RealButcher
      @RealButcher ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost bought a new hear-aid. My old one did not work anymore.
      It has been laying for some years in a box. I saw that the battery was all white around it. Well that one is gone, so I made an appointment with a hearing-shop. You have to have a hearing-test and then choose a hearing-aid, to get money from your insurance. .
      Anyways.....
      Yesterday I cleaned / contact-sprayed it and bent a little copper-thing. And presto... damn, it worked again. Saved me about 1500 Euro's.

    • @MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez
      @MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RealButcherSend everything to Cuba, I've heard those guys are masters at repairs.

  • @Stefan-
    @Stefan- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a repair tech in electronics that worked for 5 years repairing mobile phones in the 90´s you are absolutely right that prety much no one admits that they have water damaged their phone, i have repaired thousands of phones and seen many many water damages and also cleaned some of them with good results.

  • @TS-qd2uj
    @TS-qd2uj ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Thanks Louis! Never give up! You are so correct on your description of society today. It's pathetic and it shows. When I get depressed over this lack of ability of people to think for for themselves, I watch shows in countries where people have no choice but to fix anything, from broken cranks, to rebuilding lead acid batteries, cracked aluminum rims, busted tail lights, generally pretty much anything. They are so gifted and absolutely amazing to watch. Thanks for what you do Louis!

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue ปีที่แล้ว

      sadly non teslas have an air tight box around the high voltage lithium ion battery pack air tight is better then water tight which is why tslas have the same liquid resistance as that one time use sex toy that Louis fixed on video a while ago teslas sacrifice the box because it allows them to put bigger heavier battery packs into there cars which is also why teslas get into more car accidents due to being heavier and having worse braking performance over say a ford f150 or chevy avalanche

  • @noogaibb
    @noogaibb ปีที่แล้ว +189

    "Actually trying to solve problems rather than just replacing entire assemblies and giving up is what actually makes the world green"
    Man is spitting facts.
    Besides, who tf will make a car that cannot drive under the heavy rain?

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work ปีที่แล้ว +20

      A California-based Company. Smartphone Screens are useless in humid Weather too, and Google Maps really shows that it was made in a Place with few Roundabouts, no Public Transport and absolutely hostile to Pedestrians. It constantly tells me to turn left in a Roundabout instead of taking the 3rd Exit, to walk on a Highway while ignoring a Pedestrian Path right next to it and is utterly useless for finding Public Transport Routes. I guess that's due to Google Maps being made by People who barely know about the Existence of these Things.

    • @MizunaGames
      @MizunaGames ปีที่แล้ว +22

      100%. People are always forgetting that Reduce and Reuse come before Recycle.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It seems that it wasn't even driven in heavy rain, just that heavy rain happened while it was parked, and Scotland just got a whole lot more rain.

    • @shieldgenerator7
      @shieldgenerator7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Genius_at_Workthats not been my experience with Google Maps. i get pretty good bike routes and bus routes from Google maps all the time.

    • @crowe6961
      @crowe6961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@benwu7980 Yeah, to the point that "heavy rain" turned into "significant flooding". Teslas are actually known for being pretty water-resistant compared to combustion-engine cars if they aren't lemons off the factory floor. This one may well have been, but it'll be hard to prove.

  • @alansimpson432
    @alansimpson432 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With you 100% On this one. They used to be called Mechanics, but now they are known as fitters.

  • @rdhawke
    @rdhawke ปีที่แล้ว +86

    My late father was a fix-it guy. Whether plumbing, electrical, mechanical, carpentry he called himself “Jack of all trades, Master of none.” If he couldn’t fix something, then and only then, he and mom would buy new. He did work for friends and neighbors too…Let’s get Joe to fix it…😊 P. S. He also designed and built his own garage…he did everything except pour the concrete floor. He put so much rebar down, the floor never cracked, even after 50 years.

    • @aaronjones356
      @aaronjones356 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hey, he was oftentimes better than a master of one 🙂

    • @helloEther
      @helloEther ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same as my late father. It'd have been his birthday today, he's tinkering in Heaven.

    • @Telleelle
      @Telleelle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, same here.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz ปีที่แล้ว

      He designed and built a whole garage? Well that is amazing... oh wait no it isn't.

    • @Telleelle
      @Telleelle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomgizziz hehe, well he did not say how it turned out. But most people do not build the whole thing themselves, and if not educated as a builder, they dare not even try.

  • @jowildcat40
    @jowildcat40 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    People do care about fixing the problem. They just don't know until it affects them.

  • @argoneum
    @argoneum ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I already do that. This is a culture in our family, to fix things to the point of ridiculous. Last time we ordered parts for a dishwasher (yes, they are available!), and fixed it, also fixing a design flaw (some nylon strings holding the door, you need to use some silicone lubricant to make them last). A leaked service manual was available only in French, but we managed. Nothing compares to the feeling after a successful repair.

  • @tr4nsients
    @tr4nsients 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great rant as always, and outstanding fox story / footage, really enjoyed it! Also, I've seen the beginning of the video showing up at the end after the outdoor footage again - just bringing it up if it's an editing error. Keep doing a stellar job!

  • @MarkoVukovic0
    @MarkoVukovic0 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Never mind rain, now you must worry about washing the car too? Pretty insane. There needs to be strong class action lawsuits against this type of bullshit. Absolutely right in saying that if one company gets away with it, others will follow suit.

  • @davidbenson8127
    @davidbenson8127 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The "buy a new one" era is coming to an end. It existed primarily because as China industrialized low labor costs and cheap shipping made it cheap to manufacture overseas and ship to the US. Labor costs and shipping costs are rising, to say nothing of rising protectionism. People will soon have to try to fix things because there will not be replacements at the pricepoint people are used to.

    • @SlinkyD
      @SlinkyD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@512TheWolf512But the parts to do the repairs not there. Places stopped stocking certain parts because the replacements break while in warranty & they gotta keep taking the hit.

    • @BackgroundCharacter1
      @BackgroundCharacter1 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it isn't it's alive and well working as intended with planned obsolescence is never going away until something fundamentally huge happens to how our economy works, money makes the world go round.

    • @Isaiah-ft5nx
      @Isaiah-ft5nx ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, you’re wrong. Ownership will become too expensive and they will expect us to rent or service everything. It’s by design.

    • @meeponinthbit3466
      @meeponinthbit3466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As if...😂😂😂. They all figured out they can erect impossibly high barriers to entry using our broken patent and copyright laws.

    • @SCEzeric
      @SCEzeric ปีที่แล้ว

      This... This is what I would call the worst timeline

  • @ThorneyGryffon
    @ThorneyGryffon ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Started watching the channel early. Was ibterwared in learning board repair as a repair technician. We justnreplace boards at 300 to 500 dollars a piece. I wanted to learn to repair them and help customers. I learned real quickly from you the quagmire that road was to follow. Inwork for an OEM and we throw away so much that can ve repaired because its cheaper for them. They make more money off selling warranties with a monthly payment, than repairing their equipment. I grew up with depression era grandparents and we never threw anything away. Of you couldnt fix it you stripped it down and used the parts for other stuff. This era of green recycle is a lie, the olden days were better at it.

    • @Mprikiman
      @Mprikiman ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed it was. And indeed you are right. My company does the same "because they cannot justify the manhours" which they literally employed me to save them from. Cheap parts from china beats everything.

  • @Nathan-qp9uv
    @Nathan-qp9uv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't personally dare work on a car for anything that doesn't just require a quick unplug and pour; but I know a couple repair yards in the area that will do what actually needs done and the difference between what they want and the big name repair places is insane. I did get sick of this sort of issue in prebuilt computers where things weren't swapable so one small hardware issue was basically a death sentence for the system so i took the time and learned to build and maintain my own pc from parts and have had a smooth time for my last 3 pcs (well after the initial adjustments that can be a pain)

  • @neowolf09
    @neowolf09 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I agree. Right to repair is important in all industries. I appreciate you covering this.

  • @RMDragon3
    @RMDragon3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I have driven my 17 year old car through a small river that would probably get halfway up to my knee in depth, and wider than my car was long. The car was absolutely fine after. I doubt these people did anything worse than that. How is it possible that we had better water seals for batteries 17 years ago than what Tesla uses now? Especially if you take into account how the water seal may have degraded over time.

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is you car electric?

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesnt really matter its a luxury car thats built less reliable than old cars

    • @Poodleinacan
      @Poodleinacan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've aquaplaned through a long stretch of a roadside puddle until my dashboard started lighting up like a Christmas tree.
      My car was still fine after.
      My car is something like 12 years old. It's not even a remotely fancy car 😂. Hyundai Elantra Touring hatchback version.

    • @tonyv1796
      @tonyv1796 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you drive your car through a river though?

    • @RMDragon3
      @RMDragon3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filonin2 it's not, but it still has a battery like all cars. Sure it might be able to be smaller and therefore higher, but that doesn't mean the one in a Tesla should break.

  • @trippplefive
    @trippplefive ปีที่แล้ว +245

    doesn't the UK, and Europe in general, have better consumer protection laws? How did Musky manage to get away with such shenanigans over there?

    • @RossTheNinja
      @RossTheNinja ปีที่แล้ว +141

      We have the consumer protection act which means goods must be fit for purpose. I think driving a car when it rains should qualify.

    • @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
      @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      The laws exist but if they don't sue Tesla, they get away with the shenanigans.

    • @yeahok1839
      @yeahok1839 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      They’d win that in court. Just hard to take on a billion dollars company without them trying to out money you in court

    • @hoodie_cat
      @hoodie_cat ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Not sure about UK laws, but they left the EU, so none of the EU laws are in effect anymore.
      Also Ireland is still in the EU. They're not apart of the UK. It's quite surprisingly a common misunderstanding.

    • @SilverTwinkle
      @SilverTwinkle ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Money.

  • @stevebez9556
    @stevebez9556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    100% agree - thanks to my grandfather he taught me to use my hands (and my brain) to fix stuff - and funny enough I love doing it. I must have repaired untold things in and around the house. Sadly my kids have very little interest in doing the same 😕

  • @oleleclos
    @oleleclos ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You hit every single issue on the head - repairs, greenwashing and other corporate b-s. I have been maintaining and repairing stuff all my life, something I learned from my father who was from a time when they did it because they had to. But they were also the generation that invented most of the things we now throw away with abandon - cars, computers, kitchen aids, entertainment electronics and all the rest. The throw-away wave has reached ridiculous and frightening proportions, and we all have to fight back. Well done for doing your bit!

  • @renyn21
    @renyn21 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Reminds me of a case seen on Richrebuilds. 22k battery disabled from a broken plastic coolant pipe. Their solution, replace the whole pack, "we don't touch it". He took it across the country to Rich's shop, they tapped the plastic bit remaining from the broken fitting, threaded in another piece, refilled with coolant, worked fine. It broke because the guy got the lower trim single motor car, the missing motor area only covered with a piece of plastic got hit with a rock from the road and cracked that plastic pipe sticking out of the battery. Not even attempting such a doable repair makes me seriously question the dealerships competence. Sure they're qualified, to read a script. But then again I'm never going to buy a new Tesla in Eastern Europe so I'll never have to deal with their warranty anyway.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I seen that video and not even sure they have fixed that problem.

    • @ooklamoc4411
      @ooklamoc4411 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We’re a Tesla approved body shop and just had the exact same repair. Insurance paid to replace the entire pack which is the “correct” repair. That outlet is considered part of the battery pack and is not serviceable. The terrible part is that it’s “protected” by a thin plastic shield and is pretty far forward on the chassis. Doesn’t take much to break one.

  • @RealRickCox
    @RealRickCox ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I couldn't agree with you more Louis. I'm sick of the slogans and demands for billions... event TRILLIONS to make us "green" while we throw away valuable parts that could be fixed for a fraction of the money.

    • @jilbertb
      @jilbertb ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That Tesla WILL NOT ALLOW REUSE in another vehicle, even if it's a viable part!!

    • @oceanbytez847
      @oceanbytez847 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Be greener or else, but only in the ways we want you to"

    • @Dwigt_Rortugal
      @Dwigt_Rortugal ปีที่แล้ว

      If Tesla catches word that you didnt get your vehicle repaired by them, they'll do asinine things like disabling fast charging. I remember this happening to Rich Rebuilds.
      Everyone knows it's more important to have your environmental status symbols and say the right words rather than actually think through how to be more environmentally friendly.

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc ปีที่แล้ว

      Teslas are the least green thing out there what are you talking about

  • @rlane2255
    @rlane2255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had issues with Keurig coffee makers. After running the cleaning cycle, they would no longer work. Dead as a doornail. Tore one apart and found a tiny reset button on some kind of thermocouple. Pushed I and reassembled the unit and it worked perfectly. It was inaccessible from the outside and the tear down was not fun. I will never buy a Keurig coffee maker again. I recommend the Instant Pod that handles both Keurig pods and nespresso pods. Initially somewhat expensive but is hundred times better than keurig. Hope this helps somebody.

  • @Dantprime
    @Dantprime ปีที่แล้ว +151

    They've done a great job of convincing me to not get a Tesla. If it can't handle rain then the car is more of a fancy decoration than an actual vehicle.
    Like, *I* can handle being rained on! They made a car that is less durable than me 😂

    • @pollypurree1834
      @pollypurree1834 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Elon Musk said they are toys not meant to be the only car

    • @jerkface38
      @jerkface38 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@pollypurree1834lol which is literally what most people were saying when he was saying they are cars...

    • @bidencrimefamilymottof-cky953
      @bidencrimefamilymottof-cky953 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Washing the car is a big no no also.

    • @brawndothethirstmutilator9848
      @brawndothethirstmutilator9848 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My next vehicle will be a 90’s Jeep. I’m embracing an identity as a Luddite.

    • @michaelmichalski4588
      @michaelmichalski4588 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I doubt that would fly in the US. You would call a lemon law lawyer, and he'd take care of it and Tesla would at his fee.

  • @alangarde2928
    @alangarde2928 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    One of the things I love about your channel is it's not only made me ask can this thing be repaired but it's made me ask why did they design it in a way that forces e-waste or replacement of whole subsystems rather than the thing which actually failed. It's intentional on their part and if we keep accepting it we are screwed.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you for validating the time I spend talking about this stuff. every now and then I feel like I've been wasting 11 years of my life. I appreciate that this channel prompted you to think about these things. That's awesome. I hope you have a lovely rest of your evening.

    • @turdferguson8704
      @turdferguson8704 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rossmanngroupHe is far from alone. You’re a good man and your efforts might not always get the results you are looking for, but they are not in vain. Godspeed!

  • @SiAnon
    @SiAnon ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I hate the throw away society we live in.
    My mum has a Kenwood food mixer that was made back in the 80s. One day black smoke poured from it. She said "oh well i'll just go buy a new one", then she found out the one equal to what she has is £300. I did a few google searches, ordered a couple of capacitors from ebay and replaced them. Now working again good as new for £11.

    • @YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit
      @YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When the magic smoke escapes, it takes the soul of the appliance with it...good job.

    • @SiAnon
      @SiAnon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit Haha, never thought of it that way.

  • @CuttinChopps
    @CuttinChopps หลายเดือนก่อน

    this would put a smile on the SaveAfox people! Out of MN here, they are really cool people, and the videos they have show how cool the wild can be! Of course nature is a beast too. Congrats on the new friend!

  • @wayward03
    @wayward03 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I really appreciate what you've done here in the space. As someone who fixes a lot of things, including shit not designed to be worked on i had no idea how bad it had become until seeing your channel.

  • @Yggdra666
    @Yggdra666 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have grown up in a household where fixing things and making things yourself is the default. Even if I don't expect to get something fixed, I'll try because I know I'll learn something. My grandfather used to build his own radios and transformers from scrap in a time where the internet wasn't even a wet dream yet. I still own the things he made. Absolutely fascinating to me.

    • @WorldPowerLabs
      @WorldPowerLabs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My grandfather was a farmer and he built many ingenious gadgets for his own use. He'd wanted to become a physicist, but when my great-grandfather died, my grandpa was the only family member willing to keep the farm going. He's gone now, as is the farm, but I still consider him to be my role model. He helped me (probably more than he knew) become an engineer.

    • @gray3508
      @gray3508 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you know what a wet dream is?

  • @rhiyos
    @rhiyos ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I have been trying to teach my roommates not to throw things away just because they are dirty. This applies to chairs and most often the microwave since it gets food splat on it and tends to glitch and malfunction. Also because of lack of repairability, I have also decided to not buy any more furniture made of medium density fiber; it often disintegrates at the floor level with any water and looks bad and splits everywhere.

    • @NightKev
      @NightKev ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What kind of idiot goes to buy an entirely new microwave instead of spending 2 minutes to clean it???

    • @realhelathylifestyle
      @realhelathylifestyle ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of us are programmed to dump solid mahogany furniture because it's not white.

    • @shinobuoshino5066
      @shinobuoshino5066 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's funny how life intertwines so much.
      You can know how a person will treat another in marriage just from things like that.
      Suddenly 50%+ divorce rates don't seem surprising.

    • @Telleelle
      @Telleelle ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have also seen people who didn't know how to descale a coffee machine and just bought a new one when it took 20 minutes to brew coffee.
      I am still in chock.

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      People throw out kitchen appliances because it's a little dirty??? Thank god the fridge is heavy, cuz they would have trashed it too

  • @elskid206
    @elskid206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the late 90’s, I work for Sony Digital Camera Tech support. The techs used to SAVE the SAND/SALT found in cameras as evidence that the customer voided the warranty with their trip to the beach. Forget dropping it in the sand, just the AIR could take out your camera in those days.

  • @Darkness251
    @Darkness251 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Your part at around 10 mins just is the truth!
    I had my coffee automat break down after I overfilled the water reservoir. Instead of throwing it away I opened the thing up and saw, that it was just a corroded contact. Cleaned it up and the machine is since then running for over 2 years again without issues. I can't imagine how many people would just throw it away if that happens.

  • @LC-uh8if
    @LC-uh8if ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When I went to College, I started right when board level repair was on the way out. We had to take courses of the component level electronics (Digital Fundamentals and Digital Circuits) but our instructor said we would probably never do actual board level repairs because it was becoming cheaper to just replace a board than repair it. The problem is that companies started going from making highly modular designs to straight up soldering everything to the mainboard and sealing the case. The concept of replacing parts rather than repairing makes sense, but manufacturers have to go back to putting components on separate removable boards.

  • @Marlow925
    @Marlow925 ปีที่แล้ว +585

    Getting on with the wildlife around you ..... good job.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  ปีที่แล้ว +163

      I like animals. I was wary of the fox because Mr. Clinton was hanging out by the door when he was there. But as long as I make sure Mr. Clinton is inside the house with the door locked before I see Foxy I'm fine. I make it a habit now to make sure he doesn't go outside. There's a much more eclectic collection of wildlife here than there was in New York.
      The Fish were already here before I moved in and I am doing my best to honor the original owner by taking care of his fish and making sure that the water is as healthy for them as humanly possible so that they have happy lives.
      I would be happy to be polite to the heron as well, but he wants to eat my fish. I keep telling him he's not allowed to eat my fish, but he wants to eat my fish. If he ever decides in the future that he is okay with not eating my fish, I will talk to Foxy and tell him to stop scaring the heron away. But I have not seen any sign of a peace treaty yet. I am always amenable to talking things out

    • @SapphireRain777
      @SapphireRain777 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thank you for being kind to the animals. Please show more fox too 😊

    • @novitrix9671
      @novitrix9671 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another great example of the anti big government cause being justified!

    • @SupersuMC
      @SupersuMC ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rossmanngroup That's a toad in that video.

    • @LestatTravesty
      @LestatTravesty ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "just throw it at him" ...lol

  • @jimmycees4042
    @jimmycees4042 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow, great video. I thought i over paid for my 2012 Ram 1500 4x4 @ 15K. and it drives through rain, snow and all weather. thanks for sharing

  • @nukem8128
    @nukem8128 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Foxy.. the true MvP

  • @Sonnell
    @Sonnell ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Louis, there is an other side of this scam: Tesla, after making the owner pay for the new battery, will probably open up that battery, fix the small issue, and sell it again as a power wall or even in a new car. So they win twice, you loose twice.

    • @doomnipple9846
      @doomnipple9846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and the other thing that will probably maybe happen I don't know but I'm going to get extremely angry about is Tesla could possibly then just autonomously drive every car they sold back to the Tesla lair and steal all our cars.

  • @marisbarkans9251
    @marisbarkans9251 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    your the first one i saw soldering on youtube. i always was scared to start, after watching you for few weeks i started myself. now im nose deep in it and love every moment. you achieved what you set out to do, tho i always loved opening shit up and trying to understand.

    • @Benoit-Pierre
      @Benoit-Pierre ปีที่แล้ว

      In France we have 3 channels about phone repair, showing everything about micro soldering.

  • @HoodrichShinobi
    @HoodrichShinobi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been following him for awhile and voted yes on question 4 in Maine. For the right to repair. Everybody should be fighting for this.

  • @masakela123
    @masakela123 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You are so on point. I can't stand the way things are going with companies creating defective products that are built to fail. It hurts me that great companies that make otherwise great products have purposely been boobie trapping the products and taking no responsibility. May the buyer beware.

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc ปีที่แล้ว

      Apple and tesla are not “great” companies at all.
      Apple only gets a pass in software

  • @syiridium703
    @syiridium703 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The replacement "policy" is insane. The plastic cover on my headlights cracked a little (likely due to improper design, not accounting for shrinkage/expansion of the plastic). Luckily, it was still under warranty, so they replaced it. But they replaced the whole unit, the whole (LED) main headlight, including fog lights that are located about 20 cm below the main light (apparently, its all one piece). That means LED modules, lenses, electronics (driver), heat sinks, mounts, the frame of the light, everything. On both sides. Because a bit of plastic was cracked?
    On my older car (made in the '00), I could replace the cover on my own by undoing few screws and clips.
    I think this kind of approach should simply be forbidden.
    Mind you, at least they done it under warranty and did not say that it is not covered because they did not expect the car to be driven outside in some weather...

    • @Elladril
      @Elladril ปีที่แล้ว

      Having it all one piece simplifies the construction and reduces costs significantly.

    • @Prototyp3m1nd
      @Prototyp3m1nd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's unfortunately the reality with many new LED headlights. If anything fails inside or out the whole assembly gets replaced. Good news is that responsible manufacturers take them back in house and repair them to like-new, so at least there's not waste produced with every failure. Some certainly won't be so responsible, though.

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 ปีที่แล้ว

      insane

  • @joeschmoe1994
    @joeschmoe1994 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I completely agree with you. It is great to see someone share and express many of the same ideas that I would never be able to express so well. I watched a video of yours that was 8 years old the just the other day. I am impressed to see you still convey a similar over all message after so many years.

  • @oBseSsIoNPC
    @oBseSsIoNPC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a mechanic who has saved my clients thousands if not millions of dollars (accumulative). Fixing things is not only more satisfying, it also keeps garbage out of the landfills and supports many other businesses. Machine shops, fabrication shops, welders, parts suppliers, plaftermarket parts manufacturing and a few more I mean we are talking sometimes two or three more people involved in ONE repair. I have a personal distain for parts changers (as in won't care to fix a smaller part and just replace the $$$ major component).
    John Deere is horrible for that btw.