After almost crushing my lower leg on my hard panniers/rack i bougth a used Mosko Moto Rackless 80L V2 for almost half the price as new and have used them for about 3years now. I absolutely love them, the rackless might not be the fastet to take on or off, but once on,it stays on.
I’ve dealt with their customer service and it’s second to none!! The engineering and quality is also second to none imo. Couldn’t agree with you more on the “buy once cry once” , or, “buy nice not twice” .
Love my 35L's. Had a "slow motion spill" last weekend and one of them fell off inadvertently (due to the weirdness of the spill). Turned around about a mile after noticing I was missing my left side bag. Found it, secured it. All good. These things are bulletproof! Thanks BRM for this review. Mosko is my GO-TO! Best stuff out there.
I might add one con and solution: The liners can be quite grabby on certain items you may put in them. (Plastic boxes, rubber sip bags, packing cubes) MY SOLUTION: Baby Powder 😄. Just put some in your hands and rub everything that’s blue. Sure your stuff may have a light powder coating and smell, but you might need it after a couple days of hard riding 😆. I love my bags and you are right, “buy once cry once”.
As someone who falls down a fair bit when off-roading, I can say these bags are solid. Had a few good slides and they were unscathed. My riding buddy has some of the original models and has had a few crashes, one that included breaking some bones, and the bags have survived. Since their launch there a few more competitors that might be worth looking at.
I just got my first set yesterday. Gotta say the build quality is absolutely absurd, love it. One thing i don't love as much is the buckles they use are definitely not up to the same durability / quality standards as the rest of the bag. Had one arrive broken, and they seem to be pretty basic low density low quality plastic just based on look and feel. Overall seems like an awesome system and the quality is about the best you can expect.
I completely agree that the Mosko 35L bags are likely the best ever made. I’ve beat the hell out of these things and they still look new. CON: The pull straps constantly come out of the metal open hook clips. It’s a miracle I haven’t lost one yet. Total PIA to always have to check that they are still there. Other than that they rock! Thanks Ian.
I have the offset 35/25 on my Africa twin. Love them, bullet proof, reasonably secure, beaver tail is very useful for carrying wet stuff, flip flops or a small hatchet. Only thing I would do different is buy the 35/35 instead of the 35/25. If you pack accordingly the extra room is nice. You also need to re-think how you pack in order to maximize the volume, ie what do you put in the aux pockets. They are easy to remove and take into a hotel or motel with you.
I wouldn't change the 25L. I have a 35L on the right of my 2020 ATAS and if I'm not careful in tight spots it catches me. It hangs out just a little to far passed the handle bars (my judge of what I can fit thru) short of that I love them, I too have thoroughly tested the durability 🤣🤣🤣
Very nice review. I have the Lonerider bags on my 1250 GSA. But I’m travelling from Ushuaia to Alaska on a Vstrom 650 XT and deemed those too big. So I got me a set of Mosko’s. They fit the Vstrom better, though I couldn’t fit the exhaust protector and sent it back. My experience so far is great. I slit down a hill, the hill was steeper than the Vstrom could handle. The one that was on the bottom has some superficial scratches on the beaver tail,other than that no damage. Amazing build quality. The hooks of the beaver tail release themselves sometimes and that’s a bummer as I lost an auxiliary fuel bag somewhere on the caretera Austral.
I cringed when I bought these for my GSA, thinking I'd miss the aluminum panniers I was so afraid of denting. But I have no regrets and have really enjoyed the mosko moto bags. I also like that I can put them on whatever bike I own going forward. Very happy with mine.
I just finished putting my Aux Pods on my new offset Backcountry Panniers and will be packing them up for a weekend trip shortly. When I was shopping around, I kept coming back to Mosko, but was a little put off by the price. After doing my research, though, the 'cheaper' alternatives that weren't just garbage really weren't all that much cheaper ($200 for the pair, maybe), and lacked a bunch of features such as the quick release mounting. With that in mind, I pulled the trigger. So far, super impressed. These things were built to survive in any and all conditions and you can tell they thought really hard about everything when they were designing it. I also got a Scout top bag, which can double as a backpack! I'm very impressed with this kit.
I'd be interested to see you review a lightweight system, perhaps maybe even try out a lightweight camping trip using something like the Green Chile Adventure Gear Pecos Bundle. It's nothing fancy but it's at a great price point if you already have light gear too. I was really into ultralight/lightweight backpacking prior to getting my motorcycle and a lot of the gear translates over.
Thanks Ian, I just wish they were a little larger in the base. Like a 40L bag and then the Aux bags but I really like how you put the one bag down at the bottom. I am strongly considering getting these as I really hate the Altrider ones I have now, and the Altrider "Customer Service" was horrendous to deal with. I will never buy their products again. That being said I have always heard amazing things about the Mosko Moto Customer Service.
Congrats on the Mosko Moto affiliate role! I just ordered the new pannier brush guards.. 'cause tight over grown PNW 2 track. Good presentation Ian. See you in Discord
I got a set of the 25 litter mounted on my F850GS. The best saddle bags you can get. Already taken them on some trips with mi girl fully packed and even going at 180kph. Solid bags. Expensive but worth every dollar. Great company as well, even with fast and reasonable cost to ship it to Peru.
One negative is that you have to leave that plate always attached to the bike racks unless you want every time to dismantle. It may get damaged if you slide or crash your bike without the bags installed
worth every penny - same set up here...as much as i hit heavy terrain and dump my bike...they are almost Bomb proof....I switch them back and forth between the GSA and 660...something dramatically would have to change my mind not to use Mosko...thanks!!!
Always enjoy your breakdown on gear. Getting my first adventure bike in the new Norden 901 Expedition in March and going to need some luggage. I know they’re top of the line. 🏍💨
@@paulcook5233 heck yeah! Congrats! Cannot wait and even though the Expedition comes with some smaller soft luggage I’m sure to upgrade and do it right the first time and move on to enjoying the new bike. Enjoy! 🏍💨
They also have great resale value if you’re ever crazy enough to get out of adv riding. Very desirable and hard to find used Mosko gear because no one is ever unsatisfied with their gear.
There were points during the pandemic when you could sell them for well over their new retail price. And people would happily pay it. The quality is definitely there.
Hi, I run the 35 L since 2 years now ( R1200GS 2018) . AND this is my fourth one luggage since I run adventure bike , I have ktm 1290 (2015) witn sw motech hard case, I change for Touratech hard case .... and when a buy R1200GS I put Bumot luggage hard case and soft panniers, I buy both.... I like this soft panniers the Bumot so I stop to use the hard one ( aluminum)... and I saw MOSKO MOTO on TH-cam.... I make few recherche on. And I order the 35L with and extra 4L pocket for each side..... and WOWWWW I juste realize this is ( for me) the Top One..... and I lost so much money to change and change 4 time.... This Gear are The Top One for Adventure bike .... I just love them..
I was startled when Ian popped out like a used car salesmen... from my 3yrs experience. 1) pro - straps on the beaver tail easy to add or dry stuff when riding 2) pro - ability to carry small axe outside of bag, makes it look cooool 3) pro - aux pox, I use it without drybag, I use it for quick access, drinks, snacks, things that can be exposed. 4) con - weight, I think it weighs about 15lbs empty without the puck Amazing panniers, I would highly recommend. I also got their 30L duffle/pack.
I hated spending the money for these bags, but I love them. Initially I had a giant loop bag. Sure those don't need a rack, but such a hassle to pack and access stuff. [Have a feeling the reckless bags are similar quandary] The Backcountry bags are so much nicer to pack and use. Plus they come on and off so easy. Definitely worth the price.
I appreciate that Mosko automatically shows Canadian prices and ships to Canada. I will keep these bags and this link at the top of my shopping list when I'm ready to commit to soft luggage. I expect the Canadian government will slap some duty and/or taxes when it crosses the border, but the price is not higher than I expected for quality soft luggage.
Have you thought about Enduristan or Giant Loop or Wolfman sold in Canada from Dualsport Plus ....always had a bad experience with transport and customs and taxes,fee's etc
The prices on the Mosko site include duty and tax, you just pay in the cart and go. I've bought a few things from their Canadian site and there's no hidden fees.
@@matt_kelly Have you actually purchased anything from them to confirm there's no other fees when you received them? looking at buying a set myself, I'm in Canada too
@@richm4402Yes, I bought an R80 last year and a Backcountry Duffle a few months ago, I didn’t pay any other fees. I live in B.C., if it matters. You could still reach out to them by email to make sure.
Bravo as always 👏 the price of these is brutal though. Would love to see a comparison against other quick release soft luggage options. Keep up the great work 👍
Lukefish mentioned the Norden 901 EXPEDITION. Curious how many people know about it? They're probably going to sell out fast. There are only 2 in the entire province of British Columbia that I know of. I was very lucky to get one.
I liked this video it took me right to the mosko moto web site to check out there gear and i see they have some nice riding gear as well could you do a review of some of there riding gear :)
I have the exact same bags on my 22 GS Adventure 40th Anniversary and love them. Yea, pricey but well worth the cost. The beaver tail is the bees knees for misc crap that you want handy. If something happened to these, I'd buy the same again.
Great video, I have hard bmw luggage but I was thinking of getting some lonerider soft luggage, now I will be rethinking lol. Is the underneath bag you have put on waterproof as well.
Ian, I would have liked to see you actually pack stuff, maybe clothes for example, in these long, narrow bags. Seems it would be easy to totally wrinkle clothing when packing. Please tell me I'm wrong!
Since they utilize an inner waterproof bag, does that mean the outer bag material is not waterproof? Do you get moisture between the inner and outer bags? How long does it take for the outer material to dry out once it gets wet?
Mosko Moto shows in a photo 2 MSR fuel bottles sticking out of the inner liner of a 4 liter Aux Pox. I tried putting 2 bottles in, nada. Maybe you have to coat the bottles with Vasoline first. But I do have the kit you show as well as the 30L duffle and after you get over the heart flutter on the prices they are great.
Hi Scott I own the 35l panniers with 2 auxpox in each one. In one of the auxpox I place 2 MSR 800ml fuel bottles. They fit snug and nicely. Give it a try!
I added the 5 liter Aux Pox, not the 4 Liter, and have no problem fitting a pair of 1L MSR fuel bottles. They are just snug enough to not bounce around loose, but still easy to insert and remove. If you really want to add some more fuel capacity, a 2.75 liter soda bottle will also fit perfectly into the 5 liter Aux Pox. Stars & Stripes soda sold at Dollar Tree stores comes in 2.75 liter bottles for around $1.50 per bottle. Dump the soda, rinse and dry the bottle and refill with fuel. Though not an agency approved fuel container, they do work. The plastic the bottle is made of is compatible with gasoline and the bottle pressure containment capability of over 100 psig far exceeds the Reid vapor pressure of gasoline that runs in the range of 5 - 7 psig. The main weakness of the soda bottle is little resistance to punctures, not a problem with the MSR aluminum fuel bottles.
Have you done any experimentation with how high the pucks are mounted on the bars? I noticed yours are set to hold the bags as low as possible, which makes sense to keep weight low. With that aux bag on the bottom do you have any concerns about it dragging or hitting the ground? Maybe that only matters for lower bikes? I've kicking around the idea of carrying a small fuel bladder there. Any thoughts on that?
Friend of mine has them and I love the panniers, I just hate the looks of the pucks when the panniers are not on. I love to use the SW-Motech pro carrier, as it can easily be detached from the bike, but I saw that the mounting pucks are not compatible with that.... so I am still hesitant to buy them. Great video again!
I'm sure they are, as you can drill 3 holes to adapt the M Moto panniers onto the SW Motech racks. A few youtube videos as well as M Moto vids that who how to do this.
Question: watched numerous videos of these panniers. But no one has shown what it looks like down inside the bag. Reason I'm asking is I'm wondering how difficult/easy it is to load the bags, and I'd be interested in how you pack your clothing in one of these. Although I will never buy hard panniers, it's easy to see that they load like a suitcase, so easy to see what you have in them. I personally roll my cloths and rubber-band each item. I wonder if it's possible to install some type of plastic support structure similar to what they use in the LoneRider bags. Thanks in Advance for your response.
I’ve been watching your videos for around 3 years now. As a viewer, I appreciate your disclosure of your current affiliation with the endorsed product. Unfortunately, as presented this really wasn’t a useful product review. It doesn’t provide the data necessary to make an informed decision on what to buy. A more useful review would have been a comparison between the endorsed product and its competition. In the Western USA, the brands of rack mounted, pannier, soft luggage you typically see are Amazon products (various companies), Tusk (Pilot & Olympic), Nelson Rigg (Dry Bags and Hurricane), Wolfman (Rocky Mountain Expedition), Giant Loop (Round the World and MotoTrekk), and Mosko Moto (BackCountry 35L or 25L). In that way, you could show why you think the Mosko luggage is specifically better and worth the premium price. I have no doubts on the quality and look of the Mosko luggage. The other brands above (some of which you have endorsed/reviewed) are also very good with a caveat of Amazon products which may or may not be good (buyer beware). The Mosko luggage seems like much more of a status symbol. I encourage you to look at what people are actually using on your travels. My guess is you’ll find Mosko on BMW 850/1250 GS models most frequently if those bikes have soft luggage. Lesser status bike brands seem to have much more flexibility on what they purchase. 🤣 Also is there an effective way to lock the Mosko Luggage on the bike. The ease of putting on and taking off the luggage makes me think it would have a higher probability of wandering off at a stop…
Thats the most well written piece I have seen used for a TH-cam comment. Comparisons are incredibly valuable, and I always appreciate when they are included in a review. These products do not exist in a vacuum, and quite honesty are not inexpensive for most bike owners. - Frank
So it’s just a quick shot from the back but looks like you didn’t have to use there adapter kit for your puck on the right side? Is this correct? Thank you
Dzięki za Film👍Sub i Like 👍, choć myślałem, że Sub już dałem wcześniej. Mosko Moto mają ciekawy asortyment, np:Woodsman Enduro Pant OTB, Basilisk Jacket, Workhorse Jersey - ale czy jest to dostępne w Europie?
Hey Ian, one question was left from the review for me. Is there any way to more-or-less lock there bags to the bike, and to more-or-less lock them closed? Of course it won't be like an aluminium box, but if I make it hard to steal the bag that's a big relief already.
Hello Ian,thank you for a great channel,im a new adv rider recently purchased 1250gsa and am seriously considering these bags,could you please comment if its any advantage to buy the asymmetrical size because of the exhaust pipe,21L exhaust side 35L left side,your opinion would be great,thanks
Maybe a little weird comment, but I also love using those PUIG windshield extentions. After much experimentation I found them to work best if they're at a 90 degree angle to the road (L-shape) thus facing the wind head-on. Results if angling them parralell to the windscreen as you have it is just OK. Just a thought work a try.
Mine broke the stock windscreen on my 2016 AT, riding in sustained 30mph head winds was the cause. Replaced it with the Madstad windshield, expensive but highly recommend it
Confused between Backcountry and Rackless. I am a beginner and can't make up my mind. Watched all your videos on luggage systems but alas, they didn't help my choice. It would be good if you could help with the factors and their weights that influence the choice of the above systems, then noting the preferences for each factor would help in choosing the right system.
Благодарю за обзор , много путешествую на моте GS 1200 , у меня жесткие оригинальные боковые кофры не совсем удобно! Планирую приобрести не смотря на невозможность официальной поставки в мою страну!
I have admired the Mossi products for some time, but as they don’t work on the racks on my GS, I’ll have to take a pass for something that does…I want to be able to use the aluminum panniers when I want as well as a soft system…
good question! I'd also really like to know how they do loaded and going through big whoops. that's one thing about the cheaper bag's...i think they flop around and on a long trip would suck!
My new Backcountry bags do not have attach points in the bottom for fixing Aux Pockets. Is your installation Mosko Moto engineered and approved or just something you jury rigged on your own? I want to mount pocket on the bottom also, but don't want to damage these very expensive bags doing so.
@@BigRockMoto My 35 Liter bags do have some sort of light plastic webbing on the bottom that resembles molle, but it is not the super heavy duty braided nylon strapping that real molle is made of. I would not trust it to hold more than a few ounces, let alone 5 liters of water or gasoline. The Aux pockets are supplied with mounting screws and blind Tee nuts to attach to the Backcountry bags. The Backcountry bags are manufactured with reinforced holes on each end specifically for bolting the Aux pockets to the bags, and these holes have velcro patches that conceal and cushion the Tee nut heads. There are no such provisions in the bottom of the Backcountry bags.
Hi Ian. I enjoy your videos and want to share my experience with the Backcountry 35's I bought three years ago. The Good: Two years ago while riding the Idaho BDR a rack mount sheared letting the bag bounce up and down until I stopped. Not a scratch. Amazing. A bit of bailing wire and I was on my way. (I bought the bike used with the racks and didn't realize they were not design for hard bags, including the Backcountry 35. The were design for bags where the rack serves as a standoff.) The Bad: When Idaho forest service roads are cleared of trees it is common to saw the tree leaving a section hanging in the road. The Beaver tail clipped the sawed tree ripping out the corner of the bag. Mosko acknowledge this as a known problem and now sell a cover for about $70. Mosko also covered the cost of the repair but the staff is overwhelmed so the communication experience was meh. Given I ride in forest service roads often with cut trees protruding every which way the Beaver Tail is a liability. The screws holding the pucks must be torqued just so and with blue loctite. Over tighten the screws and it is hard to install the bag as there isn't enough clearance between the bag puck and the rack. It is fiddly. So would have a set pucks for each bike. These bags behave like hard bags from a safety stand point. They mount solid to a rack and they are stiff once filled so I can see wrenching an ankle in a fall. I think something like a Wolfman that installs over the rear seat and leans on the rack may have more give. All in all I like the bags but might go a different direction next time. Perhaps Tusk?
I have a yamaha t7. Do you think the reckless 40 is enoughbcapacity for a weekend camping adventure? Im having a hard time decident between the 40L or 80L system.
the 40L is only enough if you have super tiny camping gear and don't bring any chairs, food, water, etc. I could not do camping with the 40 but many people do - there are youtube videos showing how they pack.
Ian. My bday gift for April. My wife loves me:)! I clicked the link to give you the credit cuz I wouldn’t have considered them until I started watching your videos. The link didn’t work for me. Will you DM me with a fresh link?
Hi Ian! I'd be curious on your take of mosko vs lone rider. I love the practicality of my hard panniers as a commuter, but they are so bent out of shape from my off road shenanigans, which leads me to lone rider. But they are SOOO expensive! I hear your cry once moto, and I agree, I just want to be sure it is JUST once! @bigrockmoto
No, but Mosko Moto offer a couple of cable locks on their web page. But they will never be as secure as alu panniers. With softbags anyone can use a sharp knife to access what's inside
@@dnwaterh That's true. I have owned alu panniers, soft bags and the expandable hard plastic cases from BMW, the alu cases is the one I felt most happy with when it came to security. The plastic ones ane soft bags take just a couple of seconds to break up the alu ones are a little bit more fiddly
I choose cheap chinese panniers from amazon for 70$...have been through two BDRs...and many low speed crashes! LOL....they are bomb proof for pennies. just saying
at 900 euros its not cry once, its you gotta be crazy to spend 900 euros on two pieces of fabric, should be made in china and worth 150-200 euros at most
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A very informative review done in the military tradition: be brief, be brilliant, and be gone! No BS, no music, and no silly sound effects. Perfect!
Wth? This has nothing to do with military. Imagine watching this video and thinking "hmmm.... military..."
I like to think that Ian regularly hides behind furniture to surprise his wife and guests
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After almost crushing my lower leg on my hard panniers/rack i bougth a used Mosko Moto Rackless 80L V2 for almost half the price as new and have used them for about 3years now.
I absolutely love them, the rackless might not be the fastet to take on or off, but once on,it stays on.
I’ve dealt with their customer service and it’s second to none!! The engineering and quality is also second to none imo. Couldn’t agree with you more on the “buy once cry once” , or, “buy nice not twice” .
Been using this exact setup for 2 years along with the backcountry 30L duffle. Just amazing gear.
Love my 35L's. Had a "slow motion spill" last weekend and one of them fell off inadvertently (due to the weirdness of the spill). Turned around about a mile after noticing I was missing my left side bag. Found it, secured it. All good. These things are bulletproof! Thanks BRM for this review. Mosko is my GO-TO! Best stuff out there.
Completely agree. I love my Mosko Backcountry 25 set, and wouldn't trade them for any other pannier I've ever tried.
Really hoping to get the 25L in March. Can't wait
I might add one con and solution: The liners can be quite grabby on certain items you may put in them. (Plastic boxes, rubber sip bags, packing cubes) MY SOLUTION: Baby Powder 😄. Just put some in your hands and rub everything that’s blue. Sure your stuff may have a light powder coating and smell, but you might need it after a couple days of hard riding 😆.
I love my bags and you are right, “buy once cry once”.
As someone who falls down a fair bit when off-roading, I can say these bags are solid. Had a few good slides and they were unscathed. My riding buddy has some of the original models and has had a few crashes, one that included breaking some bones, and the bags have survived. Since their launch there a few more competitors that might be worth looking at.
Could you test the Kriega equivalent some time?
I have two 25L and it is a very good and sturdy product, was delivered in good time overseas and free shipping as well.
I just got my first set yesterday. Gotta say the build quality is absolutely absurd, love it. One thing i don't love as much is the buckles they use are definitely not up to the same durability / quality standards as the rest of the bag. Had one arrive broken, and they seem to be pretty basic low density low quality plastic just based on look and feel.
Overall seems like an awesome system and the quality is about the best you can expect.
I completely agree that the Mosko 35L bags are likely the best ever made. I’ve beat the hell out of these things and they still look new.
CON: The pull straps constantly come out of the metal open hook clips. It’s a miracle I haven’t lost one yet. Total PIA to always have to check that they are still there. Other than that they rock!
Thanks Ian.
Same here. I'm going to contact them about this. I've lost (1) so far.
I have the offset 35/25 on my Africa twin. Love them, bullet proof, reasonably secure, beaver tail is very useful for carrying wet stuff, flip flops or a small hatchet. Only thing I would do different is buy the 35/35 instead of the 35/25. If you pack accordingly the extra room is nice. You also need to re-think how you pack in order to maximize the volume, ie what do you put in the aux pockets. They are easy to remove and take into a hotel or motel with you.
I wouldn't change the 25L. I have a 35L on the right of my 2020 ATAS and if I'm not careful in tight spots it catches me. It hangs out just a little to far passed the handle bars (my judge of what I can fit thru) short of that I love them, I too have thoroughly tested the durability 🤣🤣🤣
Very nice review. I have the Lonerider bags on my 1250 GSA. But I’m travelling from Ushuaia to Alaska on a Vstrom 650 XT and deemed those too big. So I got me a set of Mosko’s. They fit the Vstrom better, though I couldn’t fit the exhaust protector and sent it back. My experience so far is great. I slit down a hill, the hill was steeper than the Vstrom could handle. The one that was on the bottom has some superficial scratches on the beaver tail,other than that no damage. Amazing build quality. The hooks of the beaver tail release themselves sometimes and that’s a bummer as I lost an auxiliary fuel bag somewhere on the caretera Austral.
I cringed when I bought these for my GSA, thinking I'd miss the aluminum panniers I was so afraid of denting. But I have no regrets and have really enjoyed the mosko moto bags. I also like that I can put them on whatever bike I own going forward. Very happy with mine.
I stand corrected on the racks…I’ll be looking at the system
Always really impressed by Moskos offerings. Not the cheapest, not the lightest, but this stuff will survive to be given to your children.
totally
I just finished putting my Aux Pods on my new offset Backcountry Panniers and will be packing them up for a weekend trip shortly. When I was shopping around, I kept coming back to Mosko, but was a little put off by the price. After doing my research, though, the 'cheaper' alternatives that weren't just garbage really weren't all that much cheaper ($200 for the pair, maybe), and lacked a bunch of features such as the quick release mounting. With that in mind, I pulled the trigger.
So far, super impressed. These things were built to survive in any and all conditions and you can tell they thought really hard about everything when they were designing it. I also got a Scout top bag, which can double as a backpack! I'm very impressed with this kit.
Great. They are amazing bags
I'd be interested to see you review a lightweight system, perhaps maybe even try out a lightweight camping trip using something like the Green Chile Adventure Gear Pecos Bundle. It's nothing fancy but it's at a great price point if you already have light gear too. I was really into ultralight/lightweight backpacking prior to getting my motorcycle and a lot of the gear translates over.
Thanks Ian, I just wish they were a little larger in the base. Like a 40L bag and then the Aux bags but I really like how you put the one bag down at the bottom. I am strongly considering getting these as I really hate the Altrider ones I have now, and the Altrider "Customer Service" was horrendous to deal with. I will never buy their products again. That being said I have always heard amazing things about the Mosko Moto Customer Service.
Perfect timing. I’m looking to order a pair of these before spring.
Will get these when the April sun begins to shine. Thanks Ian for the great broadcast!
I have these and love them. I love all of Mosko Moto's gear.
Congrats on the Mosko Moto affiliate role! I just ordered the new pannier brush guards.. 'cause tight over grown PNW 2 track. Good presentation Ian. See you in Discord
I just installed a set of these last week on my 2023 tiger 900 rally pro. And I see You post a video!
Wish I’d been aware of this set up before I paid nearly $2k for BMW’s Vario set. Next time. Great review.
I got a set of the 25 litter mounted on my F850GS. The best saddle bags you can get. Already taken them on some trips with mi girl fully packed and even going at 180kph. Solid bags. Expensive but worth every dollar. Great company as well, even with fast and reasonable cost to ship it to Peru.
One negative is that you have to leave that plate always attached to the bike racks unless you want every time to dismantle. It may get damaged if you slide or crash your bike without the bags installed
worth every penny - same set up here...as much as i hit heavy terrain and dump my bike...they are almost Bomb proof....I switch them back and forth between the GSA and 660...something dramatically would have to change my mind not to use Mosko...thanks!!!
Always enjoy your breakdown on gear. Getting my first adventure bike in the new Norden 901 Expedition in March and going to need some luggage.
I know they’re top of the line.
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Getting the same and probably at the same time. Gearing up already like myself. Petty hard to beat this gear. One and done.
@@paulcook5233 heck yeah! Congrats!
Cannot wait and even though the Expedition comes with some smaller soft luggage I’m sure to upgrade and do it right the first time and move on to enjoying the new bike.
Enjoy! 🏍💨
I got these bags on my Norden and they are top of the line. Youll love the bike.
@@Anath525 nice Dennis! I cannot wait to be a part of the Norden world.
Thanks for the info!
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They also have great resale value if you’re ever crazy enough to get out of adv riding. Very desirable and hard to find used Mosko gear because no one is ever unsatisfied with their gear.
There were points during the pandemic when you could sell them for well over their new retail price. And people would happily pay it. The quality is definitely there.
Hi, I run the 35 L since 2 years now ( R1200GS 2018) . AND this is my fourth one luggage since I run adventure bike , I have ktm 1290 (2015) witn sw motech hard case, I change for Touratech hard case .... and when a buy R1200GS I put Bumot luggage hard case and soft panniers, I buy both.... I like this soft panniers the Bumot so I stop to use the hard one ( aluminum)... and I saw MOSKO MOTO on TH-cam.... I make few recherche on. And I order the 35L with and extra 4L pocket for each side..... and WOWWWW I juste realize this is ( for me) the Top One..... and I lost so much money to change and change 4 time.... This Gear are The Top One for Adventure bike .... I just love them..
thank you
If you have a gsa the akalaka mounts from gateway BMW are great mounts and allow you switch jnstsntly between factory hard bags and the Mosco bags.
I was startled when Ian popped out like a used car salesmen... from my 3yrs experience.
1) pro - straps on the beaver tail easy to add or dry stuff when riding
2) pro - ability to carry small axe outside of bag, makes it look cooool
3) pro - aux pox, I use it without drybag, I use it for quick access, drinks, snacks, things that can be exposed.
4) con - weight, I think it weighs about 15lbs empty without the puck
Amazing panniers, I would highly recommend. I also got their 30L duffle/pack.
I just ordered a set of BC35 using your link. Thanks for a great video.
I hated spending the money for these bags, but I love them. Initially I had a giant loop bag. Sure those don't need a rack, but such a hassle to pack and access stuff. [Have a feeling the reckless bags are similar quandary] The Backcountry bags are so much nicer to pack and use. Plus they come on and off so easy. Definitely worth the price.
Just waiting for the woodland to come back in stock. Thanks Ian!
Hello
FYI I purchased on Sunday 1/28/24 a set of mosko 35l panniers for my Ducati Dersert x. I used your link. Waiting for the bags to arrive. .
I bought the Reckless 80L V3 some months ago. Only tested it once, but in may i Will go to Morocco and will give it a full test.
Id like to see Ian do a review of the Rhinowalk rackless and/or racked luggage
Good video but man when you said expensive that still didn't prepare me for the prices I saw when I went to the website..
Would be great to have an in-depth comparison between these and the lonerider bags
And Enduristan and AdventureSpec and Giant Loop ....
@@osimnod i found the enduristan and giantloop to be a level below the Mosko and Lonerider in terms of materials, construction and flexibility
@@enricobononi8655 Good to know. Lyndon Poskitt has chosen to work with Enduristan after advising AdventureSpec.
I appreciate that Mosko automatically shows Canadian prices and ships to Canada. I will keep these bags and this link at the top of my shopping list when I'm ready to commit to soft luggage. I expect the Canadian government will slap some duty and/or taxes when it crosses the border, but the price is not higher than I expected for quality soft luggage.
Have you thought about Enduristan or Giant Loop or Wolfman sold in Canada from Dualsport Plus ....always had a bad experience with transport and customs and taxes,fee's etc
Thinking of riding down from Vancouver and getting them installed
The prices on the Mosko site include duty and tax, you just pay in the cart and go. I've bought a few things from their Canadian site and there's no hidden fees.
@@matt_kelly Have you actually purchased anything from them to confirm there's no other fees when you received them? looking at buying a set myself, I'm in Canada too
@@richm4402Yes, I bought an R80 last year and a Backcountry Duffle a few months ago, I didn’t pay any other fees. I live in B.C., if it matters. You could still reach out to them by email to make sure.
Bravo as always 👏 the price of these is brutal though. Would love to see a comparison against other quick release soft luggage options. Keep up the great work 👍
Lukefish mentioned the Norden 901 EXPEDITION. Curious how many people know about it? They're probably going to sell out fast. There are only 2 in the entire province of British Columbia that I know of. I was very lucky to get one.
Solid review! I wish more luggage companies would put the beavertail function on their soft bags
I have a gnome tank bag from Mosko Moto and the quality is great, if their luggage was in my price range I'd probably go for it.
I liked this video it took me right to the mosko moto web site to check out there gear and i see they have some nice riding gear as well could you do a review of some of there riding gear :)
I have the exact same bags on my 22 GS Adventure 40th Anniversary and love them. Yea, pricey but well worth the cost. The beaver tail is the bees knees for misc crap that you want handy. If something happened to these, I'd buy the same again.
Great video, I have hard bmw luggage but I was thinking of getting some lonerider soft luggage, now I will be rethinking lol. Is the underneath bag you have put on waterproof as well.
Hope you review the Backcountry 2.5v as well
Ian,
I would have liked to see you actually pack stuff, maybe clothes for example, in these long, narrow bags. Seems it would be easy to totally wrinkle clothing when packing. Please tell me I'm wrong!
Since they utilize an inner waterproof bag, does that mean the outer bag material is not waterproof? Do you get moisture between the inner and outer bags? How long does it take for the outer material to dry out once it gets wet?
Mosko Moto shows in a photo 2 MSR fuel bottles sticking out of the inner liner of a 4 liter Aux Pox. I tried putting 2 bottles in, nada. Maybe you have to coat the bottles with Vasoline first. But I do have the kit you show as well as the 30L duffle and after you get over the heart flutter on the prices they are great.
Hi Scott I own the 35l panniers with 2 auxpox in each one. In one of the auxpox I place 2 MSR 800ml fuel bottles. They fit snug and nicely. Give it a try!
I added the 5 liter Aux Pox, not the 4 Liter, and have no problem fitting a pair of 1L MSR fuel bottles. They are just snug enough to not bounce around loose, but still easy to insert and remove. If you really want to add some more fuel capacity, a 2.75 liter soda bottle will also fit perfectly into the 5 liter Aux Pox. Stars & Stripes soda sold at Dollar Tree stores comes in 2.75 liter bottles for around $1.50 per bottle. Dump the soda, rinse and dry the bottle and refill with fuel. Though not an agency approved fuel container, they do work. The plastic the bottle is made of is compatible with gasoline and the bottle pressure containment capability of over 100 psig far exceeds the Reid vapor pressure of gasoline that runs in the range of 5 - 7 psig. The main weakness of the soda bottle is little resistance to punctures, not a problem with the MSR aluminum fuel bottles.
After this review I will look into a set for my Scrambler XE 1200
Have you done any experimentation with how high the pucks are mounted on the bars? I noticed yours are set to hold the bags as low as possible, which makes sense to keep weight low. With that aux bag on the bottom do you have any concerns about it dragging or hitting the ground? Maybe that only matters for lower bikes? I've kicking around the idea of carrying a small fuel bladder there. Any thoughts on that?
Keep up the reviews!! Any suggestions on a travel took kit for Adventure riding?? (KTM950)
Thanks for the review. BTW, the first link is not working for me.
I use Givi Canyon and find them very good , I would be interested to hear how they compare to these ?
Friend of mine has them and I love the panniers, I just hate the looks of the pucks when the panniers are not on. I love to use the SW-Motech pro carrier, as it can easily be detached from the bike, but I saw that the mounting pucks are not compatible with that.... so I am still hesitant to buy them.
Great video again!
I'm sure they are, as you can drill 3 holes to adapt the M Moto panniers onto the SW Motech racks. A few youtube videos as well as M Moto vids that who how to do this.
Question: watched numerous videos of these panniers. But no one has shown what it looks like down inside the bag. Reason I'm asking is I'm wondering how difficult/easy it is to load the bags, and I'd be interested in how you pack your clothing in one of these. Although I will never buy hard panniers, it's easy to see that they load like a suitcase, so easy to see what you have in them. I personally roll my cloths and rubber-band each item. I wonder if it's possible to install some type of plastic support structure similar to what they use in the LoneRider bags. Thanks in Advance for your response.
I’ve been watching your videos for around 3 years now.
As a viewer, I appreciate your disclosure of your current affiliation with the endorsed product. Unfortunately, as presented this really wasn’t a useful product review. It doesn’t provide the data necessary to make an informed decision on what to buy.
A more useful review would have been a comparison between the endorsed product and its competition. In the Western USA, the brands of rack mounted, pannier, soft luggage you typically see are Amazon products (various companies), Tusk (Pilot & Olympic), Nelson Rigg (Dry Bags and Hurricane), Wolfman (Rocky Mountain Expedition), Giant Loop (Round the World and MotoTrekk), and Mosko Moto (BackCountry 35L or 25L). In that way, you could show why you think the Mosko luggage is specifically better and worth the premium price.
I have no doubts on the quality and look of the Mosko luggage. The other brands above (some of which you have endorsed/reviewed) are also very good with a caveat of Amazon products which may or may not be good (buyer beware).
The Mosko luggage seems like much more of a status symbol. I encourage you to look at what people are actually using on your travels. My guess is you’ll find Mosko on BMW 850/1250 GS models most frequently if those bikes have soft luggage. Lesser status bike brands seem to have much more flexibility on what they purchase. 🤣
Also is there an effective way to lock the Mosko Luggage on the bike. The ease of putting on and taking off the luggage makes me think it would have a higher probability of wandering off at a stop…
If you do a careful comparison, some Amazon clone luggage is identical to the name brand products. Just different branding.
@@ParallelCamper I agree. That is often the case when products are made in the same locations.
Thats the most well written piece I have seen used for a TH-cam comment. Comparisons are incredibly valuable, and I always appreciate when they are included in a review. These products do not exist in a vacuum, and quite honesty are not inexpensive for most bike owners. - Frank
Do you prefer these over the SW-Motech? Any others you recommend that are a little more affordable?
So it’s just a quick shot from the back but looks like you didn’t have to use there adapter kit for your puck on the right side? Is this correct? Thank you
For most of us, 200-300$ Vanucci or Dainese bags will do the job. You really don’t need to pay 700$ unless they are on your bike in the rain every day
Dzięki za Film👍Sub i Like 👍, choć myślałem, że Sub już dałem wcześniej.
Mosko Moto mają ciekawy asortyment, np:Woodsman Enduro Pant OTB, Basilisk Jacket, Workhorse Jersey - ale czy jest to dostępne w Europie?
Hey Ian, one question was left from the review for me. Is there any way to more-or-less lock there bags to the bike, and to more-or-less lock them closed? Of course it won't be like an aluminium box, but if I make it hard to steal the bag that's a big relief already.
Great review as always Ian. Klx 230 SM with ABS coming soon? Color me intrigued!
for that bike I'd look at the Reckless 40 or 80
Hello Ian,thank you for a great channel,im a new adv rider recently purchased 1250gsa and am seriously considering these bags,could you please comment if its any advantage to buy the asymmetrical size because of the exhaust pipe,21L exhaust side 35L left side,your opinion would be great,thanks
In my opinion I prefer to have the same size on each side. They don't stick out very far. The racks on the GS are pretty slim fitting.
Thank you!
@bigrockmoto Your link to the backcountry panniers is dead!
Maybe a little weird comment, but I also love using those PUIG windshield extentions. After much experimentation I found them to work best if they're at a 90 degree angle to the road (L-shape) thus facing the wind head-on. Results if angling them parralell to the windscreen as you have it is just OK. Just a thought work a try.
Mine broke the stock windscreen on my 2016 AT, riding in sustained 30mph head winds was the cause. Replaced it with the Madstad windshield, expensive but highly recommend it
@@AnyMotoUSA What size, what shade and what bike (2016 AT?? what is that?).
@@kee7678 AT should mean Africa Twin
@@kee7678 2016 Honda Africa Twin, CRF1000L in Silver. Just silver, that's what honda called it.
@@AnyMotoUSA yep..but what size Madstat windshield did you get, how'd it work for you?
Confused between Backcountry and Rackless. I am a beginner and can't make up my mind. Watched all your videos on luggage systems but alas, they didn't help my choice. It would be good if you could help with the factors and their weights that influence the choice of the above systems, then noting the preferences for each factor would help in choosing the right system.
Go to Mosko Moto TH-cam channel. It's all there my Man.
Благодарю за обзор , много путешествую на моте GS 1200 , у меня жесткие оригинальные боковые кофры не совсем удобно! Планирую приобрести не смотря на невозможность официальной поставки в мою страну!
Thank you. What’s your recommended soft tail bag? I have a YW200 and looking for a day trip tail bag to store gear. Thank you. Karl from NY
I have admired the Mossi products for some time, but as they don’t work on the racks on my GS, I’ll have to take a pass for something that does…I want to be able to use the aluminum panniers when I want as well as a soft system…
they sell adaptors for the GS I believe, check out the site
I wish they'd fit on my OEM racks on my V85TT.
How are they at speed? Do they flutter at freeway speeds?
good question! I'd also really like to know how they do loaded and going through big whoops. that's one thing about the cheaper bag's...i think they flop around and on a long trip would suck!
Thank you. Another great review.
Good panniers and a neat fixing system.
My new Backcountry bags do not have attach points in the bottom for fixing Aux Pockets. Is your installation Mosko Moto engineered and approved or just something you jury rigged on your own? I want to mount pocket on the bottom also, but don't want to damage these very expensive bags doing so.
My 35s have molle on the bottom. What size bags did you get? Maybe the smaller bags don't have the molle?
@@BigRockMoto My 35 Liter bags do have some sort of light plastic webbing on the bottom that resembles molle, but it is not the super heavy duty braided nylon strapping that real molle is made of. I would not trust it to hold more than a few ounces, let alone 5 liters of water or gasoline. The Aux pockets are supplied with mounting screws and blind Tee nuts to attach to the Backcountry bags. The Backcountry bags are manufactured with reinforced holes on each end specifically for bolting the Aux pockets to the bags, and these holes have velcro patches that conceal and cushion the Tee nut heads. There are no such provisions in the bottom of the Backcountry bags.
Hi Ian. I enjoy your videos and want to share my experience with the Backcountry 35's I bought three years ago.
The Good: Two years ago while riding the Idaho BDR a rack mount sheared letting the bag bounce up and down until I stopped. Not a scratch. Amazing. A bit of bailing wire and I was on my way. (I bought the bike used with the racks and didn't realize they were not design for hard bags, including the Backcountry 35. The were design for bags where the rack serves as a standoff.)
The Bad: When Idaho forest service roads are cleared of trees it is common to saw the tree leaving a section hanging in the road. The Beaver tail clipped the sawed tree ripping out the corner of the bag. Mosko acknowledge this as a known problem and now sell a cover for about $70. Mosko also covered the cost of the repair but the staff is overwhelmed so the communication experience was meh. Given I ride in forest service roads often with cut trees protruding every which way the Beaver Tail is a liability.
The screws holding the pucks must be torqued just so and with blue loctite. Over tighten the screws and it is hard to install the bag as there isn't enough clearance between the bag puck and the rack. It is fiddly. So would have a set pucks for each bike.
These bags behave like hard bags from a safety stand point. They mount solid to a rack and they are stiff once filled so I can see wrenching an ankle in a fall. I think something like a Wolfman that installs over the rear seat and leans on the rack may have more give.
All in all I like the bags but might go a different direction next time. Perhaps Tusk?
That entry 😂😂😂 loved it.
Great review. I understood now why they are very expensive.
Thanks for watching!
Can I mount these bags to SW Motech Pro Rack ?
I have a yamaha t7. Do you think the reckless 40 is enoughbcapacity for a weekend camping adventure? Im having a hard time decident between the 40L or 80L system.
the 40L is only enough if you have super tiny camping gear and don't bring any chairs, food, water, etc. I could not do camping with the 40 but many people do - there are youtube videos showing how they pack.
@@BigRockMoto thank you for the reply!
the price is not justifiably too high, the end does not justify the purpose
Can we review that klx230sm?
Still stuck between these and Giant Loop Round The World.
Do you have a promo code for a discount?!
Thinking I need a BMW too 🤔
Ian. My bday gift for April. My wife loves me:)!
I clicked the link to give you the credit cuz I wouldn’t have considered them until I started watching your videos.
The link didn’t work for me. Will you DM me with a fresh link?
Hi Ian! I'd be curious on your take of mosko vs lone rider. I love the practicality of my hard panniers as a commuter, but they are so bent out of shape from my off road shenanigans, which leads me to lone rider. But they are SOOO expensive! I hear your cry once moto, and I agree, I just want to be sure it is JUST once! @bigrockmoto
Does it have lock system?
Buy once, cry once, when you get back to your bike & find your state of the art luggage has disappeared 😭
Are they lockable?
Yes.
No, but Mosko Moto offer a couple of cable locks on their web page. But they will never be as secure as alu panniers. With softbags anyone can use a sharp knife to access what's inside
@@HallgeirBakken So yes.
@@HallgeirBakken and with a screwdriver or tip of a key, I can break into my aluminum panniers
@@dnwaterh That's true. I have owned alu panniers, soft bags and the expandable hard plastic cases from BMW, the alu cases is the one I felt most happy with when it came to security. The plastic ones ane soft bags take just a couple of seconds to break up the alu ones are a little bit more fiddly
“A premium product for a premium rider.” I think you meant to say ‘price.’ Can you be a “premium rider” without these bags? Please advise? 😬😳😟
I choose cheap chinese panniers from amazon for 70$...have been through two BDRs...and many low speed crashes! LOL....they are bomb proof for pennies. just saying
i want the gucci bags
at 900 euros its not cry once, its you gotta be crazy to spend 900 euros on two pieces of fabric, should be made in china and worth 150-200 euros at most