Great video. I'm getting ready to build one but was a little intimidaited by cape falcon videos. He makes beautiful boats and videos. But info was sketchy. I realize he's selling a product and that's fine. I lean more toward the iniut or native american styles. I stumbled on the alaska extreme Tuktu kayak build. That click with me. Then I found this video which dovetailed perfectly with what I was looking for. Liked and subbed and haven't even looked to see if you have any instructional videos. Hope you do. I learned more in your "fitting" the kayak portion than all the other videos I've watched. Great job.
Not a whole lot on building them on TH-cam in general. I have some bits and pieces of skin-on-frame building here and there. I hope to add more on building skills later on. Thanks for following along! Let me know if you have any specific questions.
@@KayakToTheSea Thanks for the reply. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions when I start the build , this winter I hope. My original goal was a birchbark canoe. Lack of good and good size bark has delayed that. While splitting out cedar i started watching SOF videos and saw a lot of similarities. Both very elegant and sophisticated designs.
The first one I made fit okay but was WAY too deep. Nice for touring but not so great for anything else. The next few have definitely gotten more refined and it all comes down to getting that fit just right.
@@KayakToTheSea Wow thanks for a fast response. Yeah you know it's good when your to warm in the winter Lol.. Again thanks for that info I'll look them up.
I'm getting ready to build a skin on frame boat and wondering if I can use carbon fiber or kevlar cloth. I can't find any info as every video and website I find only uses the standard types of cloth. That or vaccum infused, which requires additional equipment. Any suggestions?
I've never heard of anyone making a skin-on-frame with carbon or kevlar skin. It seems like a really expensive process for something that won't be a great enhancement. These kayaks typically weigh half of what a hard-shell kayak of a similar size would weigh and are incredibly tough and using these materials probably wouldn't make it any lighter or stronger. And vacuum forming only works if you can get on both sides of the fabric for the bag to apply pressure for the infusion so the frame would be in the way. What is your goal with trying to use this sort of process? You have me curious to see what you come up with.
Kayak To The Sea when I mentioned vaccum infused I was refering to the conventional composite boats in the industry. I'm trying to make it as durable as possible. But why should a sof exterior be flexible rather than firm? If I wrap it in carbon fiber and coat it with epoxy wouldn't it be stronger? Btw I'm building a canoe for now and I'll build a kayak during the winter.
@@Hydraz13 The carbon or Kevlar on a production kayak is strong but the tough part about using it for a SOF comes from the fact that on a SOF the skin is only one layer thick and the frame will always have some flexibility to it. A production kayak is stiff due to laminating multiple layers together, this is what also makes them heavier. The combo of a flexible frame with a stiff skin makes a recipe for cracks and damage to occur. Even using a too hard epoxy on a single layer of nylon for a skin can cause cracks and leaks as it flexes. A space age skin would probably work fine but I would do a test with resin before doing it to a whole kayak if it is a not so common sealant.
Great video. I'm getting ready to build one but was a little intimidaited by cape falcon videos. He makes beautiful boats and videos. But info was sketchy. I realize he's selling a product and that's fine. I lean more toward the iniut or native american styles. I stumbled on the alaska extreme Tuktu kayak build. That click with me. Then I found this video which dovetailed perfectly with what I was looking for. Liked and subbed and haven't even looked to see if you have any instructional videos. Hope you do. I learned more in your "fitting" the kayak portion than all the other videos I've watched. Great job.
Not a whole lot on building them on TH-cam in general. I have some bits and pieces of skin-on-frame building here and there. I hope to add more on building skills later on. Thanks for following along! Let me know if you have any specific questions.
@@KayakToTheSea Thanks for the reply. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions when I start the build , this winter I hope. My original goal was a birchbark canoe. Lack of good and good size bark has delayed that. While splitting out cedar i started watching SOF videos and saw a lot of similarities. Both very elegant and sophisticated designs.
Excellent. Thanks Tim
Love the bloopers at the end!
Great video, man. Simple and clear. I still will make one of those... made a couple but not that good cause I was scared they could be too small
The first one I made fit okay but was WAY too deep. Nice for touring but not so great for anything else. The next few have definitely gotten more refined and it all comes down to getting that fit just right.
Case you answer from the comments, what brand Tuilik were you wearing in the video ?
It's a Brooks. I love wearing it. Super warm and comfortable. Too warm sometimes, especially in the sun, even in the winter.
@@KayakToTheSea Wow thanks for a fast response. Yeah you know it's good when your to warm in the winter Lol.. Again thanks for that info I'll look them up.
I'm getting ready to build a skin on frame boat and wondering if I can use carbon fiber or kevlar cloth. I can't find any info as every video and website I find only uses the standard types of cloth. That or vaccum infused, which requires additional equipment. Any suggestions?
I've never heard of anyone making a skin-on-frame with carbon or kevlar skin. It seems like a really expensive process for something that won't be a great enhancement. These kayaks typically weigh half of what a hard-shell kayak of a similar size would weigh and are incredibly tough and using these materials probably wouldn't make it any lighter or stronger. And vacuum forming only works if you can get on both sides of the fabric for the bag to apply pressure for the infusion so the frame would be in the way. What is your goal with trying to use this sort of process? You have me curious to see what you come up with.
Kayak To The Sea when I mentioned vaccum infused I was refering to the conventional composite boats in the industry. I'm trying to make it as durable as possible. But why should a sof exterior be flexible rather than firm? If I wrap it in carbon fiber and coat it with epoxy wouldn't it be stronger? Btw I'm building a canoe for now and I'll build a kayak during the winter.
@@Hydraz13 The carbon or Kevlar on a production kayak is strong but the tough part about using it for a SOF comes from the fact that on a SOF the skin is only one layer thick and the frame will always have some flexibility to it. A production kayak is stiff due to laminating multiple layers together, this is what also makes them heavier. The combo of a flexible frame with a stiff skin makes a recipe for cracks and damage to occur. Even using a too hard epoxy on a single layer of nylon for a skin can cause cracks and leaks as it flexes. A space age skin would probably work fine but I would do a test with resin before doing it to a whole kayak if it is a not so common sealant.
Kayak To The Sea ok thanks. I'll just stick to a standard sof boat.