I'm the happiest man alive right now! I've been waiting for you to make a fantastic four action figure retrospective video, you just nail the presentation and your commentary is simply superb. the FF are my favorite super hero team and it was through them that i became a huge fan of jack kirby and his phenomenal work, so seeing you talk about them is a match made in heaven.
So I just finally sifted through the Mezco set more thoroughly myself, and Johnny DOES have a fire neck piece. In the tray with his other flame effects should be a more solid red ring looking piece. It turns out the "flesh" colored part of his neck can be removed from the base of the neck and replaced with this red piece. Weirdly different from the other ways Mezco has done necks, but it works. I still think Sue Storm should have had at least a translucent head though.
Cut my teeth on the world of comics with the FF as a wee lad in the late 70's. It is many, many years later now and I still remember clearly the day my mother bought me my first comic book off the rack. Too bad I don't have that any longer. I wasn't aware of the Walgreens exclusive. Bummer, woulda snatched those up for sure. Nice review, CS!!!!
I was never a big fan of the Diamond Select Things face sculpt so years ago I added a beard made out of a pink stick on moustache. It was a reference to the old Marvel Adventures comics that depicted future Thing as having a pink beard and it’s imagery that’s stuck with me throughout my childhood
Man I’ll never be tired of these deeper dives of characters in plastic! Honestly I hope Carbon Scoring has that same level of wholesome love that the great Glenn Webb has in all of his videos as well. I think Doom alone could provide a great look at the best villain in comics!
Glenn Webb is surely missed but it is channels like yours with the positive vibes and historical context that keep his memory alive and this hobby fun. You’re definitely one of the best out there…
Would just like to echo other commenters in your evoking of Glenn Webb & his figure reviews. Glenn is sorely missed. He was a tireless fan and supporter of toys and action figures. He could keep you up for hours and hours talking your head off. He was also a very gifted custom figure maker. I have a handful of customs that he made. And you can tell each one is definitely his style. His enthusiasm was contagious and I miss that kind of smoldering energy that he had. I think you can feel it coming thru in his videos.
I have that Human Torch figure from the first feature film. The flame tornado attachment behind his back actually clicks the button on his back and it acts like a stand for him. I love this video omg brings back the memories of myself playing with my action figures. I LOVE THE VIDEO!
That "80's" FF cartoon was actually from the 70's (1978 to be exact). The John Byrne FF costume redesigns' "blue" is actually black. Check out season two of the 90's animated series.
25:18 If you drilled a tiny hole on either side of the broken peg, you could glue a short metal rod into one side (a piece of a thick paperclip might even work), then glue the peg itself, as well as gluing the other end of the support rod into the other hole. This should prevent the peg from re-breaking. I've done it for several broken figures. Great video!
I’m sorry man who created what is not irrelevant the King has far to often been short changed of his credit and it is relatively clear that the Challengers where the inspiration for the FF and Kirby was the main creative force behind them, what is not indisputable is that Jacob Jack King Kirby is probably one of the most creative minds of the twentieth century co-creator of Captain America, Fantastic Four, Inhumans, X-men, Marvel’s Thor,Nick Fury Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. The design of Spider-Man, Fourth world, Captain Victory, and we know from Bob Kane everything is always not what it seems Bill Finger was woefully short changed and deserves far more credit for Batman than he gets.Kirby deserves more credit.
You are right. It is not irrelevant, but this is one where I do think Stan had some influence at the very beginning. If you watch so many of my other videos, I am a huge advocate for artists contributions - particularly Kirby and Ditko - because of all the credit Stan took over the years. I have done numerous videos on this and I could not agree with you more - which was why he was introduced in this video as The KING. While I think Stan was an important part of the creation of the FF - all the good stuff - Galactus, Inhumans, Black Panther, This Man This Monster - that was all Jack (I do think Stan is the personality of the Silver Surfer, but Jack was the creator). So, I am with you. And don’t even get me started on Bob Kane - I actually address that in next week’s DC Mezco Mystery Box. Thanks for watching and commenting - I appreciate your passionate fandom. Oh, I just read your comment again - Kirby took an early swing at Spider-Man - but that character design is all Ditko - I’ll happily die on that hill.
@@CarbonScoring the first cover art is Kirby Stan though Kirby’s style was too blocky and made him look older the original design concept’s where Kirby’s, Stan turned to Ditko and really never gave him the proper credit, I really get sad knowing he didn’t live long enough to truley get his flowers in life and hearing how sad he was in not wanting to go into Toys r Us or any toy store and seeing his creations being sold and not being adequately compensated for his work. Back on topic I do agree with you the Mezco FF is Lacking something they could have maybe put a translucent switch top like Mr Fantastic for invisible Woman they would have had to do a completely different release for a light up translucent Human Torch. And yeah I have the Mezco FF now I’m waiting for Doctor Doom , what we need is more FF villains Red Ghost and Super Apes, Frightful Four,Mad Thinker and Awesome Android, Diablo, Attuma , Mole Man and Moliods and the Mole Monster, Invincible Man, Overmind, Gaberial I want them all can’t wait for the Select Annihilus
I met both Stan and Jack Kirby back in the day. They were both equally hilarious and interesting as very real characters. Stan always claimed that he came up with the ideas,.. and handed them off to an artist. And he just could have handed them to different artists (when you are referencing Ditko & Spider-man or Dr. Strange, or Kirby & everyone else in MC). While it may be true,.. I don't think we would have the same FF, Spider-man and the rest, if he did choose different artists. I think all modern reviewers would say that the FF is undoubtedly 90% Jack Kirby. If you look at Challengers, it's the same concept. If you hold them side by side, he even swiped entire page compositions for FF. More than any other book, FF really feels like all Jack, with Stan adding words to what is already there in pictures. It is a real shame Kirby didn't live long enough to see his creations blow up on TV & movie screens. I'm sure he would have been heavily critical of any and all changes. But I think he would have been begrudgedly proud of what they got right of his work. These artists you casually mention were GIANTS!! Creators of worlds that inspired much of the imagination of my entire childhood,...even as much as movies did,.. maybe more. Other fans built entire empires on what Ditko & Kirby created. THey are still building them. Think of how much came JUST out of those 2 artists? Look it up and you will be shocked.
@@omarsoliman2355 yeah, man - we are in full agreement. But I don't think I mentioned Ditko or Kirby casually - I feel like I always give them proper credit for being the foundational figures they are - perhaps it didn't come across enough in this particular video, but over the course of my channel, I am a huge advocate for what the visual artists contributed using the Marvel Method and am constantly critical of the credit Stan took for others work and ideas
Though I grew up with her as “The Invisible Woman.” I love that you call her “The Invisible Girl.” Because that’s what you grew up with same as my dad. Idk. I just like that. I’ll never Call Billy Batson Shazam for the same reason 😂
Totally agree! The 1st season of both FF and Iron Man were so hard to watch, but the second season of both were right up there with X-Men and Spider-Man TAS. I hate that they didn't continue with such great improvements.
Glad to know someone else appreciated the casting for the 2000s Story F4 films, and someone else prefers Thing to NOT be all Hulk-ish in scale. I still much prefer pants on Thing over the old-school trunks look, though. I prefer the Walgreens ones overall (only have Sue though, and will probably settle for the Slott-run Thing I already have), but damn I LOVED Slott's run and it helped get me back into reading comics after many MANY years. What did you think of it?
I really appreciated that Slott focused on family and he did seem to understand the characters - his love for the FF was obvious every issue. I don’t think it will be remembered like the Byrne run (or even the insanely high idea, thought provoking Hickman run) but it was a fun take on Marvel’s first family
You should double check your accessories for johnny storm on the mezco figures because he does come with an alternate red neck piece for the flame on head.
Nice breakdown! I have the retro carded set although im not that familiar to Byrne's comic run, I still recall FF wearing the blue and white suit. Still a good set! It's just that Mr. Fantastic lacks accessories or "elasticity"
i love the cloth figure's, you cant even see the articulation which makes them that much more accurate, if they came with different body and head sculpts for invisible woman and the human torch
So cool. Love the FF. Always have a shelf with the different version and lines of them. Great vid, Still haven't got the Mezco. But I may get them yet. Would be cool to see the different villains of heroes and teams of comic lore too. Also I consider the super hero squad part of my FF's display. Fantastic vid, thank you again. Makes my weekend.
Thank you so much for your FF figure review. I was toying with putting out for that boxed Mezco set. It just looks SOOO GOOD!! But I agree that the Walgreens set looks great. But I have to go along with your accessment of the Marvel Select set. They are just TOOO Fantastic! Now we need a Haslab Fantasti-car for all of them. COME ON!!! We want a Fantasti-Car!!! When I was a kid I tried to make my own Mego (size appropriate) THING. It didn't turn out. But I made other custom Megos that did. Man! I wanted more action figure Marvel characters. Made my own Vision, Beast, Daredevil, Namor,...
Dude! That is really cool - I wish there was some way I could see those customs you made - I'm sure I would eat them up! And, I'm All In on a Fantasticar, but I would guess our best chance would be as the 2025 HasLab to try to pick up on the momentum of the next movie
That selects thing is absolutely massive! If you want to repair him, you could try to use a small drill and a metal pin to reinforce the hip thigh connection.
My favorite Reed, Sue and Johnny were the 90s versions but the Ben Grimm I like the most is the one from 1970s Hanna Berbera cartoon of Benjy Grimm and the reason for that is because he did have really broad shoulders and back and the arched posture of the thing but its probably the only Thing with a thin waist, at least until the Timeslip run in the comics.
I'm not a fan of soft goods on my figures, but man that Mezco set is hands down the best. Since the FF are the classic marvel team the soft goods fit well with them gives them that vintage toy look. And with all those accessories, I can justify the price. Thanks for the comparison!
You could re-attach Marvel Selects Thing's leg if you drill holes on ball joint on the leg and the hip socket and then glue a pin connecting the two pieces.
This is the first video ive ever seen of yours. I like the info for sure. It aeems you already know that Johnny does in fact have a neck replacement. Now Mezco Reed, to me, is the best Reed out there. I have my marvel legends thing in my display. Also has the best Herbie as well.
Great video! I ended up trading out my early legends torch for the retro one in my Spider-Man team up display. I appreciate the comic book look of the early one, but it’s hard to beat the translucent plastic and improved posability of the newer version.
I’m a fan for sure! I watched a lot of the 90’s show and all the films. I haven’t gotten into the comics yet though. I’m just on issue 200 of ASM… #goals. That’s why I need more of these videos to tell what I need to know😊
This video review was amazing! Lots of good info and comparisons. The only thing I noticed is that the marvel select Thing actually released in 2010, many years ago. Still great video!
Awesome video! I have the marvel legends F4 figures that came in the box set from I think 2004? that included all 6 figures! I still think the doom that is in the set is a 10/10 figure!
I’m still waiting for the perfect silver age FF marvel legends. The walgreens wave is close but still too modern. I only have the toybiz torch for now because he has the scratchy ink lines.
6:56 I still have that thing! My brothers and I had the full fantastic four of from that set, I never knew there was a thing with a coat and hat though!
Hi. I mixed it! I added Marvel Legends The Thing to Marvel Select! If you look at the original comics and the cartoons, you'll see that the Thing is not much taller than the others, just stockier! The proportions, it turns out, are Legends Thing and the others are Select editions. They are thus proportional. And these editions, the best at the same time... Select Thing is very disproportionate.
I agree I have the first release diamond select thing his proportions are way off head too small, arms too big & legs too short I hope they make an updated thing figure one day
As a kid I really loved the FF (once I got over uniforms instead of different superhero costumes) thank to their comics and Saturday morning cartoons. The rest of kids must've too, for a while, since we got all 4 by Mego (even flame off Johnny, thanks to Reed's costume on Aquaman, though they did the unthinkable and skipped Dr. Doom) but once we got downsized with the 3 3/4 pocket heroes we lost them and a whole lot more. Shame; everyone I knew would've loved the FF at that size too (even Herbie). It's nice to see so many waves of the 1st family of Marvel have been made. I hope tgeir next movie outing is not onky good enough to give them the spotlight again, but to do it in a way kids and adults can all enjoy.
I absolutely love the Walgreens exclusive Thing and Invisible Woman, but I agree the Marvel Select are the best looking of the bunch. Mezco’s has a great classic look and the best Richards, but I can’t justify the $400 price tag, might as well buy All the alternatives Marvel Legends have out there.
I think the reason why for the Ultimate Mr. Fantastic and Thing figures in F4 Classics line were more 616 than the ultimate designs, goes back to the Marvel merchandise art. If you look at marvel products the art they used specifically the work of Scott Johnson. The F4 always tended to be in this combo of Ultimate costumes but aged like they are in the 616 universe. So this just looks like they were trying to keep one basic look across all merchandise.
I have the last two Thing figures from Hasbro’s Marvel Legends and I like them both. The Marvel Select Mr Fantastic and Invisible Woman are both great from that line. It depends on the line for the human torch. I have the Marvel legends one from Hasbro, but the Marvel select is great too. I can’t wait for FF Wolverine and Spider Man to come out soon.
I was always suck a fan of how some of the old marvel designs translated into figure. I loved the MODOKs, juggernauts, and Things that have been produced throughout the years and I only hope they make more of them going forward
My fav of the bunch is the movie set. That is just awesomely done. Mezco could have also done the same hack they did with Reeds, for Sue and Johnny, like split the figure into two parts and give invisible upper body and head, similarly give upper body burning for Johnny. They just cheap'ed out IMO.
I had all those 90’s figures. Man they were some of my favorites.i also had the later version of Mr. Fantastic. With the extended posts.the second version of those toys got missed in the video, i think I had a half painted invisible woman also
Except for the giant price of the mezco set, Reed in 90% of the comics never stretched his neck. And it always throws me off to see it displayed with him doing that. I am a classic Kirby and Byrne style guy. So if I ever do get those figures I would never use the stretched neck. But others may like that, to each their own.
I love the ML Walgreens set. So much so that I have stuck with it. The excitement of hunting them and not having a FF was so great. I’m a Mezco guy but, I strictly stick to DC bc well, you gotta pick a lane and stick to it on a budget w/Mezco.
22:22 : The mezco fantastic four Johnny Storm comes with an alternate flame-on neck piece that could be changed so that you can match it with his flame-on head, you’d just have to remove the skin tones neck piece and replace it with the flame-on neck piece. Hope this helps anyone who owns this set! :)
the retro card was my first dive into Marvel Legends. I slowly got all 4 of the FF. then i needed the Dr Doom and since then… oh boy, i have a few more than initially intended….. great review
@@CarbonScoring when I discovered the Marvel action hour as a kid, it was the best! Then the final season of spider-man wherein the FF joined amongst a pile other awesome marvel characters. Was AMAZING for me as a kid!
Loving these videos man! Diamond Select was what got me into hardcore collecting about a decade ago. I switched over to Legends simply because of the wider range, however with the quality of Hasbro’s lines being up and down, I’m seriously considering switching back to Select as my go to. These FF figures are such high quality and affordable. Just wish that they made more figures. Alas, “quality over quantity” I guess,but is it too much to ask for both? 🤷🏻♂️ Anyway love the channel mate!
Thanks! I just don’t think Select has the variety to cause me to leave Legends, but they have gotten better and are a great supplement to any collection
Hey dude! Love your stuff, so I’ve got some requests! -could we get some more iron man or war machine stuff? -Doctor doom, he’s just iconic -History of wolverine! Thanks so much for reading this dude! Your videos got me to learn more about older comics which helped me form a really strong bond with my dad, so you helped me through some tougher times, thank you so much!
Your comment made my day! I can’t express how happy it makes me to bring you and your Dad closer together. Definitly will get to a Wolverine history this year for his anniversary! Great ideas for the others as well!
That Walgreens exclusive ff rocks especially Ben and sue IMO ? Johnny's a bit to chunky though,but that's my only moanim currently putting cash aside to save up for the mezco box set,i love it
There was actually a Toy-Biz Invisible Woman. It came in the box set with the kid Franklin and Herbie that you show quickly in the video, so maybe you have it stored somewhere.
Just last year I completed my Fantastic Four from Walgreens (Except for the Human Torch since I like more the Retro Version) and I'm so happy since they are the first set that I complete of the team (aside from some promo mini figures from the time the first movie came out and the Burger King ones) But as much as I like the figures I think specially Reed could use some improvement, despite no being so old I think he could use a revisit. For me the unbeatable Reed Richards figure is the one that has the interchangeable neck, torso and limbs, that guy is everything I asked for back in the day and the likeness is still good enough to Ioan Gruffudd, also Ben and Johnny and even Doom still hold up.
For the sake of simplicity and for the best designs, I'd probably go for Hasbro Marvel Legends, especially since they have the 2018 black suit designs, my favorite & arguably the best modern F4 designs of all time!
I do like Fantastic Four figures, especially the Diamond Marvel select ones. I've got the Mr Fantastic and Human Torch, need to get the Sue Storm. Those Mezcos look nice, but yeah they are kinda limited
I own all FF team versions from the different companies, my vote for the best: 1. Hasbro (all variants) 2. Toybiz (flimsy, but great Mr Fantastic stretch variants) 3. Mezco (just too damn expensive) 4. Diamond Select (poor articulation, but displays well)
Haven’t ever seen the figures in person, but it looks like the mezco human torch does come with a “flame on!” neck, I haven’t a clue if that came in later versions or not!
In my opinion the Walgreens Marvel Legends Fantastic Four... especially the Thing...are the best available.. maybe switching out the Torch for the Retro version.
I'm the happiest man alive right now! I've been waiting for you to make a fantastic four action figure retrospective video, you just nail the presentation and your commentary is simply superb. the FF are my favorite super hero team and it was through them that i became a huge fan of jack kirby and his phenomenal work, so seeing you talk about them is a match made in heaven.
Wow, thanks! I’m super glad you enjoyed it!
@@CarbonScoringno problem, keep up the great work mr carbon!
@@CarbonScoring I love every video you make and I been waiting to get one for free and can it be a symboite spider man pls 🥺🥺🥺
I don’t have that much money 😢
To get one
7:34 ''we don't have The Invisible Girl''
Me: I thought she was there the whole time
😂😂😂
So I just finally sifted through the Mezco set more thoroughly myself, and Johnny DOES have a fire neck piece. In the tray with his other flame effects should be a more solid red ring looking piece. It turns out the "flesh" colored part of his neck can be removed from the base of the neck and replaced with this red piece. Weirdly different from the other ways Mezco has done necks, but it works.
I still think Sue Storm should have had at least a translucent head though.
Thanks for the info - there was so much in there I simply missed it. Agree about Sue
@@CarbonScoring hypothetically, would the Mezco light up head fit on the select human torch?
The mezco fantastic four Johnny actually does come with an alternate piece for his flame on neck
Thanks - I missed that
Cut my teeth on the world of comics with the FF as a wee lad in the late 70's. It is many, many years later now and I still remember clearly the day my mother bought me my first comic book off the rack. Too bad I don't have that any longer. I wasn't aware of the Walgreens exclusive. Bummer, woulda snatched those up for sure. Nice review, CS!!!!
That first movie thing is incredible! Can't believe this is my first time seeing it
That is a damn good figure for sure!
I absolutely had that 90’s Thing figure growing up. Core memory unlocked.
Nostalgia powers activate!
I was never a big fan of the Diamond Select Things face sculpt so years ago I added a beard made out of a pink stick on moustache. It was a reference to the old Marvel Adventures comics that depicted future Thing as having a pink beard and it’s imagery that’s stuck with me throughout my childhood
That is awesome - I love it!
Man I’ll never be tired of these deeper dives of characters in plastic! Honestly I hope Carbon Scoring has that same level of wholesome love that the great Glenn Webb has in all of his videos as well. I think Doom alone could provide a great look at the best villain in comics!
There are few higher compliments than when my named is mentioned with Glenn Webb! The greatest there ever was!
Glenn Webb is surely missed but it is channels like yours with the positive vibes and historical context that keep his memory alive and this hobby fun. You’re definitely one of the best out there…
@@thelaststarfighter1984 Sincerely, thank you. That means a ton!
Would just like to echo other commenters in your evoking of Glenn Webb & his figure reviews. Glenn is sorely missed. He was a tireless fan and supporter of toys and action figures. He could keep you up for hours and hours talking your head off. He was also a very gifted custom figure maker. I have a handful of customs that he made. And you can tell each one is definitely his style. His enthusiasm was contagious and I miss that kind of smoldering energy that he had. I think you can feel it coming thru in his videos.
@@CarbonScoring of course my friend, your work means a ton to the community!
I have that Human Torch figure from the first feature film. The flame tornado attachment behind his back actually clicks the button on his back and it acts like a stand for him. I love this video omg brings back the memories of myself playing with my action figures. I LOVE THE VIDEO!
This makes me very happy!
"..twerk on it..." I ddnt know abt the Walgreen exclusive ones. Looks like a grail ima have to go after.
Go get ‘em!
That "80's" FF cartoon was actually from the 70's (1978 to be exact). The John Byrne FF costume redesigns' "blue" is actually black. Check out season two of the 90's animated series.
Thanks for the updates!
25:18 If you drilled a tiny hole on either side of the broken peg, you could glue a short metal rod into one side (a piece of a thick paperclip might even work), then glue the peg itself, as well as gluing the other end of the support rod into the other hole. This should prevent the peg from re-breaking. I've done it for several broken figures.
Great video!
Thank you for this lovely ode to the FF and to the action figure collecting community. It’s such a pleasure to follow your reviews.
Thank you kindly! I am glad to see my love for these characters came through!
I’m sorry man who created what is not irrelevant the King has far to often been short changed of his credit and it is relatively clear that the Challengers where the inspiration for the FF and Kirby was the main creative force behind them, what is not indisputable is that Jacob Jack King Kirby is probably one of the most creative minds of the twentieth century co-creator of Captain America, Fantastic Four, Inhumans, X-men, Marvel’s Thor,Nick Fury Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D. The design of Spider-Man, Fourth world, Captain Victory, and we know from Bob Kane everything is always not what it seems Bill Finger was woefully short changed and deserves far more credit for Batman than he gets.Kirby deserves more credit.
You are right. It is not irrelevant, but this is one where I do think Stan had some influence at the very beginning. If you watch so many of my other videos, I am a huge advocate for artists contributions - particularly Kirby and Ditko - because of all the credit Stan took over the years. I have done numerous videos on this and I could not agree with you more - which was why he was introduced in this video as The KING. While I think Stan was an important part of the creation of the FF - all the good stuff - Galactus, Inhumans, Black Panther, This Man This Monster - that was all Jack (I do think Stan is the personality of the Silver Surfer, but Jack was the creator). So, I am with you. And don’t even get me started on Bob Kane - I actually address that in next week’s DC Mezco Mystery Box. Thanks for watching and commenting - I appreciate your passionate fandom. Oh, I just read your comment again - Kirby took an early swing at Spider-Man - but that character design is all Ditko - I’ll happily die on that hill.
@@CarbonScoring the first cover art is Kirby Stan though Kirby’s style was too blocky and made him look older the original design concept’s where Kirby’s, Stan turned to Ditko and really never gave him the proper credit, I really get sad knowing he didn’t live long enough to truley get his flowers in life and hearing how sad he was in not wanting to go into Toys r Us or any toy store and seeing his creations being sold and not being adequately compensated for his work. Back on topic I do agree with you the Mezco FF is Lacking something they could have maybe put a translucent switch top like Mr Fantastic for invisible Woman they would have had to do a completely different release for a light up translucent Human Torch. And yeah I have the Mezco FF now I’m waiting for Doctor Doom , what we need is more FF villains Red Ghost and Super Apes, Frightful Four,Mad Thinker and Awesome Android, Diablo, Attuma , Mole Man and Moliods and the Mole Monster, Invincible Man, Overmind, Gaberial I want them all can’t wait for the Select Annihilus
I met both Stan and Jack Kirby back in the day. They were both equally hilarious and interesting as very real characters. Stan always claimed that he came up with the ideas,.. and handed them off to an artist. And he just could have handed them to different artists (when you are referencing Ditko & Spider-man or Dr. Strange, or Kirby & everyone else in MC). While it may be true,.. I don't think we would have the same FF, Spider-man and the rest, if he did choose different artists. I think all modern reviewers would say that the FF is undoubtedly 90% Jack Kirby. If you look at Challengers, it's the same concept. If you hold them side by side, he even swiped entire page compositions for FF. More than any other book, FF really feels like all Jack, with Stan adding words to what is already there in pictures. It is a real shame Kirby didn't live long enough to see his creations blow up on TV & movie screens. I'm sure he would have been heavily critical of any and all changes. But I think he would have been begrudgedly proud of what they got right of his work. These artists you casually mention were GIANTS!! Creators of worlds that inspired much of the imagination of my entire childhood,...even as much as movies did,.. maybe more. Other fans built entire empires on what Ditko & Kirby created. THey are still building them. Think of how much came JUST out of those 2 artists? Look it up and you will be shocked.
@@omarsoliman2355 yeah, man - we are in full agreement. But I don't think I mentioned Ditko or Kirby casually - I feel like I always give them proper credit for being the foundational figures they are - perhaps it didn't come across enough in this particular video, but over the course of my channel, I am a huge advocate for what the visual artists contributed using the Marvel Method and am constantly critical of the credit Stan took for others work and ideas
Why do you hate punctuations?
My preference is the Byrne-era costumes of FF, but all these figures look extraordinary, and the Walgreens set is - dare I say it - fantastic!
Amen! Great figures all around!
Though I grew up with her as “The Invisible Woman.” I love that you call her “The Invisible Girl.” Because that’s what you grew up with same as my dad.
Idk. I just like that. I’ll never Call Billy Batson Shazam for the same reason 😂
Thanks, I've caught some greif for that, but she switched to Invisible Woman when I was like 14, so she will always be Invisible Girl to me
@@CarbonScoring dumb thing to get grief over. But that is the internet for ya lol. Keep up the good work, my friend!
Trey you should give the 90’s FF a shot, it’s on D+, the second half after the redesign is really good and has wonderful writing
I’ll do it! As a huge FF fan, I owe it to myself!
Totally agree! The 1st season of both FF and Iron Man were so hard to watch, but the second season of both were right up there with X-Men and Spider-Man TAS. I hate that they didn't continue with such great improvements.
@@jimruby1354 ok - if Jim says so, then I have to do it!
Mezco TRUMPS all of them. It’s a fact, $400 for that box set and all those accessories, that’s why I say it’s objectively better than the other ones
@jimruby1354
The first season of FF was significantly better than Iron Man's imo.
Glad to know someone else appreciated the casting for the 2000s Story F4 films, and someone else prefers Thing to NOT be all Hulk-ish in scale. I still much prefer pants on Thing over the old-school trunks look, though.
I prefer the Walgreens ones overall (only have Sue though, and will probably settle for the Slott-run Thing I already have), but damn I LOVED Slott's run and it helped get me back into reading comics after many MANY years. What did you think of it?
I really appreciated that Slott focused on family and he did seem to understand the characters - his love for the FF was obvious every issue. I don’t think it will be remembered like the Byrne run (or even the insanely high idea, thought provoking Hickman run) but it was a fun take on Marvel’s first family
You should double check your accessories for johnny storm on the mezco figures because he does come with an alternate red neck piece for the flame on head.
I found it!
Who doesn't like to look at Jessica Alba?
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Me
Well @wheeljack2269 there might be something wrong with you (no offense)
@@QuickAnimationsStopMotion I have autism
Uhhhhhhhhh ok
Your well documented love for the Byrne run inspired me to go back and read it and I gotta say IT WAS WORTH IT! Cheers!
Heeeeeyyyy! Always glad to convert another fan to Byrne's FF
Nice breakdown! I have the retro carded set although im not that familiar to Byrne's comic run, I still recall FF wearing the blue and white suit. Still a good set! It's just that Mr. Fantastic lacks accessories or "elasticity"
Thanks for watching!
i love the cloth figure's, you cant even see the articulation which makes them that much more accurate, if they came with different body and head sculpts for invisible woman and the human torch
Yes - they are sooo close to perfect!
So cool. Love the FF. Always have a shelf with the different version and lines of them. Great vid, Still haven't got the Mezco. But I may get them yet. Would be cool to see the different villains of heroes and teams of comic lore too. Also I consider the super hero squad part of my FF's display. Fantastic vid, thank you again. Makes my weekend.
SQUADIES!!! Love those guys! I did a couple of mystery boxes on them!
I did watch that as well so good.😁@@CarbonScoring
Hey there! If you read the instructions that come with the Mezco fantastic Forsett, you will notice that they included a replacement neck for Johnny
Instructions!?!? Who has time to read the instructions!?!?!?!?!?!😂
Thank you so much for your FF figure review. I was toying with putting out for that boxed Mezco set. It just looks SOOO GOOD!! But I agree that the Walgreens set looks great. But I have to go along with your accessment of the Marvel Select set. They are just TOOO Fantastic! Now we need a Haslab Fantasti-car for all of them. COME ON!!! We want a Fantasti-Car!!!
When I was a kid I tried to make my own Mego (size appropriate) THING. It didn't turn out. But I made other custom Megos that did. Man! I wanted more action figure Marvel characters. Made my own Vision, Beast, Daredevil, Namor,...
Dude! That is really cool - I wish there was some way I could see those customs you made - I'm sure I would eat them up! And, I'm All In on a Fantasticar, but I would guess our best chance would be as the 2025 HasLab to try to pick up on the momentum of the next movie
I still have the Michael Chiklis Thing Action Figure. I was obsessed with it.
It is timeless!
14:56 first time viewer 🎉 great video had to subscribe 🎉
Man, that is awesome! I love that! Hang around, things are just getting started here!
Always excited to see new CS vid, excellent job. Btw The Mezco Johnny Storm actually has an alternate neck for the flame on head
Thanks for the info! I missed that among the thousands of accessories. Still looks kinda derpy, though
Great video! I have most if not all of these as I love the Fantastic Four (especially The Thing).
I have been really encouraged by all the love for the FF - it makes me very happy!
Awesome video. the Walgreens F4 figures are the best. Herbie added in the Sue Storm package was a nice touch.
Yeah - they didn't have to give us Herbie - that was a nice touch
That selects thing is absolutely massive! If you want to repair him, you could try to use a small drill and a metal pin to reinforce the hip thigh connection.
That original art deserves its own video!
I’d love to do that one!
My favorite Reed, Sue and Johnny were the 90s versions but the Ben Grimm I like the most is the one from 1970s Hanna Berbera cartoon of Benjy Grimm and the reason for that is because he did have really broad shoulders and back and the arched posture of the thing but its probably the only Thing with a thin waist, at least until the Timeslip run in the comics.
Good call on Hannah Barbara Thing
I grew up loving my time with the Chris Evans torch figure shown. now watching this and seeing the full set I want to go back and buy them all
I'm not a fan of soft goods on my figures, but man that Mezco set is hands down the best. Since the FF are the classic marvel team the soft goods fit well with them gives them that vintage toy look. And with all those accessories, I can justify the price. Thanks for the comparison!
My favorite version is the Walgreens exclusive, although I prefer the retro Human Torch
Yeah - those Walgreens figures are 🔥
Exactly my thoughts, thats how I display them
You could re-attach Marvel Selects Thing's leg if you drill holes on ball joint on the leg and the hip socket and then glue a pin connecting the two pieces.
good thought!
This is the first video ive ever seen of yours. I like the info for sure. It aeems you already know that Johnny does in fact have a neck replacement. Now Mezco Reed, to me, is the best Reed out there. I have my marvel legends thing in my display. Also has the best Herbie as well.
Glad to have you here and I appreciate the feedback - I agree, the Reed is really, really strong. Keep coming back for more!
Great video! I ended up trading out my early legends torch for the retro one in my Spider-Man team up display. I appreciate the comic book look of the early one, but it’s hard to beat the translucent plastic and improved posability of the newer version.
No, you are right - that newer Torch looks so good with our newer Spidey’s- now, I’m gonna sucker you into being an FF fan!
I’m a fan for sure! I watched a lot of the 90’s show and all the films. I haven’t gotten into the comics yet though. I’m just on issue 200 of ASM… #goals. That’s why I need more of these videos to tell what I need to know😊
That Toybiz Marvel Legends Johnny brings back so many memories
How cool is it that the flame effect still works!!!
I recently got the Marvel Selects and a pieced out HERBIE from the One:12 set resold for cheap. They look great together.
Nicely done -way to get the best of both worlds
The Marvel Universe 4 inch ones were pretty good. Classic blue and future foundation.
I considered adding the Future Foundation figs, but I’ll save that for another video!
This video review was amazing! Lots of good info and comparisons. The only thing I noticed is that the marvel select Thing actually released in 2010, many years ago. Still great video!
I knew I had had it in my collection forever, but when I went to look it up, I was fooled by the rerelease date! 13 years to get the FF together!
Couldn’t agree more … great video . I would however like an updated marvel select thing
Yes - in a more Silver Age style!
Awesome video! I have the marvel legends F4 figures that came in the box set from I think 2004? that included all 6 figures! I still think the doom that is in the set is a 10/10 figure!
Great set and you are right - that Doom was a banger!
I’m still waiting for the perfect silver age FF marvel legends. The walgreens wave is close but still too modern.
I only have the toybiz torch for now because he has the scratchy ink lines.
I do love me some scratchy ink lines!!!
10:06 the moment I whipped it out
Hahaha!
6:56 I still have that thing! My brothers and I had the full fantastic four of from that set, I never knew there was a thing with a coat and hat though!
i clicked cz i instantly remembered my childhood ff figures from the movie.
Heck yeah! Nostalgia, baby!
Hi. I mixed it! I added Marvel Legends The Thing to Marvel Select! If you look at the original comics and the cartoons, you'll see that the Thing is not much taller than the others, just stockier! The proportions, it turns out, are Legends Thing and the others are Select editions. They are thus proportional. And these editions, the best at the same time... Select Thing is very disproportionate.
Nice work! Great call on that!
I agree I have the first release diamond select thing his proportions are way off head too small, arms too big & legs too short I hope they make an updated thing figure one day
As a kid I really loved the FF (once I got over uniforms instead of different superhero costumes) thank to their comics and Saturday morning cartoons. The rest of kids must've too, for a while, since we got all 4 by Mego (even flame off Johnny, thanks to Reed's costume on Aquaman, though they did the unthinkable and skipped Dr. Doom) but once we got downsized with the 3 3/4 pocket heroes we lost them and a whole lot more. Shame; everyone I knew would've loved the FF at that size too (even Herbie). It's nice to see so many waves of the 1st family of Marvel have been made. I hope tgeir next movie outing is not onky good enough to give them the spotlight again, but to do it in a way kids and adults can all enjoy.
Great comment - amazingly it has never occurred to me to use Aquaman and Reed to make a Johnny figure - BRILLIANT
I absolutely love the Walgreens exclusive Thing and Invisible Woman, but I agree the Marvel Select are the best looking of the bunch. Mezco’s has a great classic look and the best Richards, but I can’t justify the $400 price tag, might as well buy All the alternatives Marvel Legends have out there.
Yep - I think you summed it up perfectly - spot on!
I think the reason why for the Ultimate Mr. Fantastic and Thing figures in F4 Classics line were more 616 than the ultimate designs, goes back to the Marvel merchandise art. If you look at marvel products the art they used specifically the work of Scott Johnson. The F4 always tended to be in this combo of Ultimate costumes but aged like they are in the 616 universe. So this just looks like they were trying to keep one basic look across all merchandise.
Wow - excellent point and one I haven’t considered - I remember that art you are referring to - great call!
19:53 something about Sue’s eyes. It’s like she’s looking right at the screen 📺
kinda hot, kinda creepy...
@@CarbonScoring “milfiest milf of marvel” 😂
Ive owned that marvel select thing since 2015. And I think it was a few years old at that point
Yes - others have said 2010
I have the last two Thing figures from Hasbro’s Marvel Legends and I like them both. The Marvel Select Mr Fantastic and Invisible Woman are both great from that line. It depends on the line for the human torch. I have the Marvel legends one from Hasbro, but the Marvel select is great too. I can’t wait for FF Wolverine and Spider Man to come out soon.
I was always suck a fan of how some of the old marvel designs translated into figure. I loved the MODOKs, juggernauts, and Things that have been produced throughout the years and I only hope they make more of them going forward
I should do a whole video on the cartoon FF line…
My fav of the bunch is the movie set. That is just awesomely done.
Mezco could have also done the same hack they did with Reeds, for Sue and Johnny, like split the figure into two parts and give invisible upper body and head, similarly give upper body burning for Johnny. They just cheap'ed out IMO.
When you paid what I paid for this set, you never want to think they cheaped out on anything...
Great video! I really want the Marvel Select toys from Diamond Select Toys!
I promise you won’t be disappointed with that set - they should re-release them as a box set…
@@CarbonScoring Amazon has them all together for $114.
@@RebelKingfrom1995 that seems like a good price to me - under $30 per fig!
Hey carbon I watched all of your videos and I like to all of them ❤
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the channel!
Np carbon
I had all those 90’s figures. Man they were some of my favorites.i also had the later version of Mr. Fantastic. With the extended posts.the second version of those toys got missed in the video, i think I had a half painted invisible woman also
I did skip them cause I don't have all 4
Ah. Cool. 🆒 a mention would’ve shut me up lol 😂 😅 I enjoyed the video
Except for the giant price of the mezco set, Reed in 90% of the comics never stretched his neck.
And it always throws me off to see it displayed with him doing that. I am a classic Kirby and Byrne style guy. So if I ever do get those figures I would never use the stretched neck.
But others may like that, to each their own.
I agree - it is goog to have it as a feature and I wanted to show it, but I'm with you, I wouldn't use it
I love the ML Walgreens set. So much so that I have stuck with it. The excitement of hunting them and not having a FF was so great. I’m a Mezco guy but, I strictly stick to DC bc well, you gotta pick a lane and stick to it on a budget w/Mezco.
Everything you said was true! Plus, Mezco DC is pretty damn excellent!
The next Fantastic Four film should take place in the 60’s. It would add a charm to the film.
I think that is a really good idea - with the multiverse in play, seems like that could happen
22:22 : The mezco fantastic four Johnny Storm comes with an alternate flame-on neck piece that could be changed so that you can match it with his flame-on head, you’d just have to remove the skin tones neck piece and replace it with the flame-on neck piece. Hope this helps anyone who owns this set! :)
Thanks! Great information that I totally missed.
Doea that helps with the flame on look when place all the flame effects part on Johnny ?
The Mezco Johnny has a flaming neck piece, it's in one of the accessory trays
Thanks - I missed that the first time
the retro card was my first dive into Marvel Legends. I slowly got all 4 of the FF. then i needed the Dr Doom and since then… oh boy, i have a few more than initially intended….. great review
Thanks for watching - the FF are obviously a great starting point for the marvel universe- comics or figures
@@CarbonScoring when I discovered the Marvel action hour as a kid, it was the best! Then the final season of spider-man wherein the FF joined amongst a pile other awesome marvel characters. Was AMAZING for me as a kid!
@@ADAM_COLLECTS great memories!
Loving these videos man! Diamond Select was what got me into hardcore collecting about a decade ago. I switched over to Legends simply because of the wider range, however with the quality of Hasbro’s lines being up and down, I’m seriously considering switching back to Select as my go to. These FF figures are such high quality and affordable. Just wish that they made more figures. Alas, “quality over quantity” I guess,but is it too much to ask for both? 🤷🏻♂️
Anyway love the channel mate!
Thanks! I just don’t think Select has the variety to cause me to leave Legends, but they have gotten better and are a great supplement to any collection
Hey dude! Love your stuff, so I’ve got some requests!
-could we get some more iron man or war machine stuff?
-Doctor doom, he’s just iconic
-History of wolverine!
Thanks so much for reading this dude! Your videos got me to learn more about older comics which helped me form a really strong bond with my dad, so you helped me through some tougher times, thank you so much!
Your comment made my day! I can’t express how happy it makes me to bring you and your Dad closer together. Definitly will get to a Wolverine history this year for his anniversary! Great ideas for the others as well!
That Walgreens exclusive ff rocks especially Ben and sue IMO ? Johnny's a bit to chunky though,but that's my only moanim currently putting cash aside to save up for the mezco box set,i love it
Mezco is great for sure, but won’t be replacing Walgreens in my display
@@CarbonScoring as we don't have Walgreens here in Scotland and I have no idea if any other firm did them I've not got an option,I'd love that set
Great video. Thank you. Do you have a standalone review of the Mezco set?
That Mezco is Dope but it should be 7 figure set, A Flame on Jonny, A Invisible woman-invisible woman, and a stretch Armstrong Like Mr Fantastic
Big misses for sure!
There was actually a Toy-Biz Invisible Woman. It came in the box set with the kid Franklin and Herbie that you show quickly in the video, so maybe you have it stored somewhere.
I have it - but she was a different artistic style than the other three and didn’t truly fit in
90s Invisible Woman figure was made from the same female mold used for Spider Woman 1 and 2 as well as Warbird/Ms. Marvel.
I think maybe Sue came first
I use to have the thing from the 2005 I use to play with the toy all the time childhood memories
Happy to provide a dose of nostalgia!
In my opinion considering the utilisation of powers, the best FF goes to the Walmart Excl. for the 6 inch and to Marvel Select for the 7 inch.
Good calls on both
Ioan Gruffudd’s name is pronounced “Yo-ohn Griff-ith.” Don’t worry, Welsh names trip me up too
I never stood a chance...
I think I agree on all points, but I do like aspects of some of the earlier Things.
Each of these figures has things I love about them
Just last year I completed my Fantastic Four from Walgreens (Except for the Human Torch since I like more the Retro Version) and I'm so happy since they are the first set that I complete of the team (aside from some promo mini figures from the time the first movie came out and the Burger King ones) But as much as I like the figures I think specially Reed could use some improvement, despite no being so old I think he could use a revisit. For me the unbeatable Reed Richards figure is the one that has the interchangeable neck, torso and limbs, that guy is everything I asked for back in the day and the likeness is still good enough to Ioan Gruffudd, also Ben and Johnny and even Doom still hold up.
You are right - they do hold up!
Yes! I wish I had Susan but I haven't been able to get her yet :/@@CarbonScoring
rip stan lee you will be missed 🥲
Indeed…
I helped design Mr Fantastic. They did everything I said except a clip to his chest with his head stretching forward
Wow! Which version???
It would be really funny if they made a human torch figure who's action feature would be just you press the button and the figure catches on fire.
Pretty funny. Once…
Impressive how the Torch still has a functioning flint gimmick
I thought that was pretty cool also
2:38....I DID! Im a bigger Fant4 fan than a Spidey fan....juss sayin'
Super glad to see so many FF fans!
i like that the arm of the Reed bends at 15 37
Just a fabulous figure!
Also, the first Toy Biz sue was in the box set with Franklin and Herbie.
Thanks!
For the sake of simplicity and for the best designs, I'd probably go for Hasbro Marvel Legends, especially since they have the 2018 black suit designs, my favorite & arguably the best modern F4 designs of all time!
Those are a cool reinterpretation
I do like Fantastic Four figures, especially the Diamond Marvel select ones. I've got the Mr Fantastic and Human Torch, need to get the Sue Storm. Those Mezcos look nice, but yeah they are kinda limited
For the money - I’d get the Sue if I were you!
fun fact, the mezco herbie’s “butt controls” are actually little vials you can put in the blue bar tray thingy below his neck 👍
I really hope Hasbro makes Ultinate F4 figures. Not my favorite story of them, but those are my favorite costumes
I'd be down for that if it meant we got a Maker figure!
You may make a video and introduce all the figures of the Marvel Ultimate Universe from the Marvel Legend and Select series. Thankful
I have really thought about doing the Ultimates…
I own all FF team versions from the different companies, my vote for the best:
1. Hasbro (all variants)
2. Toybiz (flimsy, but great Mr Fantastic stretch variants)
3. Mezco (just too damn expensive)
4. Diamond Select (poor articulation, but displays well)
That is a fair assessment- well done!
8:00 pretty sure I had that human torch figure as a kid
Great memories!
I got the Mezco too! Dream come true for me
Congrats!
Haven’t ever seen the figures in person, but it looks like the mezco human torch does come with a “flame on!” neck, I haven’t a clue if that came in later versions or not!
You are right - I just missed it in the HUGE box of stuff!
@@CarbonScoring 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t blame you! Looks like an awesome set!
Mezco is impeccable.
When they are good, they are good!
I loved that the thing's toy was in the movie and the thing's costume was SSSOOOO MUCH BETTER than the rubber suit in the second movie.
I forgot about that!
In my opinion the Walgreens Marvel Legends Fantastic Four... especially the Thing...are the best available.. maybe switching out the Torch for the Retro version.
Yes - they are fantastic - no pun intended
@@CarbonScoring 🤣👑