This high pitched VF drive is quite common in the Netherlands, you can hear it on the CAF M4 trains of the Amsterdam Metro, the older Rotterdam Metro, as well as on the Berkhof Premier AT-18 trolleybuses running in Arnhem as well as in Solingen in Germany
Second! EDIT: I saw some pictures of these northern trams being shown in Stockholm at some point. First at Djurgårdslinjen then on Lidingöbanan. Pretty sure Lidingöbanan ran at 750V at the time but I am not sure... It also ran on the Stångådalsbanan in diesel train-tram mode since that line was a diesel route. It runs between Linköping and Kalmar. EDIT 2: I just find it so crazy with different solutions and incompatible tramways system within one city. Stockholm is also at fault, with 4 isolated tramway system. We have came to a point that we now pretty much use one tram model, but each line have different configurations so one tram is tied to one line.
I like how these trams are tri-mode and can work on tram tracks and heavy rail and powered on electric and diesel mode. This is what some parts of the UK might invest on and to replace the existing diesel trains and to replace them with hybrid-battery and hydrogen powered trains and tram-trains. Plus they do sound like a Stadler Flirt or a Electrostar.
The system is tri-mode, not the vehicles. He did mention you have trams that can run on both voltages and others that just run on the tram network voltage and diesel sections of the main line system. I'm pretty sure the trams that run on the low light rail voltage and diesel mode can technically operate anywhere even on the main line and non-powered sections as they can use the diesel engine.
@@benolifts Not sure if this helps but there is a guy on youtube with a bunch of videos on 465021 th-cam.com/video/Cr7vm4yt20o/w-d-xo.html - such as this one
I have done many videos on it before it got modernized. I have never managed to work out which VF it is. It is a different VF to the 465/2 /9 365 and 1996 trains which have some kind of GEC or ONIX VF drive.
If the triple interlaced track needed overhead power on all 3 ways then the overhead wires would have been very interesting. But on this part of the system, it is electrified at tramway voltage (rather than mainline voltage), meaning there are no mainline trains using electricity here, so the straight ahead route of the interlaced track is not electrified. This route is more of an express tram than a tram train as mainline trains no longer use this route. I am not sure of the reason of the route being kept available to diesel DB trains, but I think this is for DB cargo only, which as far as I know, would very rarely operate on this route.
If you can, you can go to Chisinau, moldova and do an urbex in this national hotel. Literally it’s name is national. Anyways it’s a very nice abandoned hotel that it would be nice to explore, so could you do it?
Nice video, I really love the tram train system, we have a few here in France? Nantes is my favourite one, I'd like to try the Mulhouse system one day. Also do you have any plans to go back to Paris? You should try the new MP14 stock on the line 14 it's amazing, the stock has 8 coaches on the line 14 version. And line 4 is starting to get automated, the line still have a lot of MP89 CC driver version, four MP89CA the driver-less version from the line 14 two MP05 RB they're former line 14 trains, also the classic RATP livery is going to be replaced with the blue and white Ile de France Mobilités on these trains, but two MP89CA still have the RATP livery, also the line 4 is going to get a few MP14 in a six coach version. At least three models are going to be operated in the line 4 once the line is fully automated most of the models are former line 14 trains, But I'd recommend you to wait more, the line 6 is going to get the MP89CC from the line 4 in a few months, in a modified version, and line 11 is going to get a driver MP14 version in 2023-2024
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This high pitched VF drive is quite common in the Netherlands, you can hear it on the CAF M4 trains of the Amsterdam Metro, the older Rotterdam Metro, as well as on the Berkhof Premier AT-18 trolleybuses running in Arnhem as well as in Solingen in Germany
Also the alstom citadis 2000 from Rotterdam makes this exact sound. But the regio citadis from den haag (the same model as kassel) doesnt
Second!
EDIT: I saw some pictures of these northern trams being shown in Stockholm at some point. First at Djurgårdslinjen then on Lidingöbanan. Pretty sure Lidingöbanan ran at 750V at the time but I am not sure...
It also ran on the Stångådalsbanan in diesel train-tram mode since that line was a diesel route. It runs between Linköping and Kalmar.
EDIT 2: I just find it so crazy with different solutions and incompatible tramways system within one city. Stockholm is also at fault, with 4 isolated tramway system. We have came to a point that we now pretty much use one tram model, but each line have different configurations so one tram is tied to one line.
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Thx for the video. Love to see it 👍🏻
I like how these trams are tri-mode and can work on tram tracks and heavy rail and powered on electric and diesel mode. This is what some parts of the UK might invest on and to replace the existing diesel trains and to replace them with hybrid-battery and hydrogen powered trains and tram-trains. Plus they do sound like a Stadler Flirt or a Electrostar.
To me they sound like a higher frequency version of the Holec VF drive (which is used on the class 323)
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The system is tri-mode, not the vehicles. He did mention you have trams that can run on both voltages and others that just run on the tram network voltage and diesel sections of the main line system. I'm pretty sure the trams that run on the low light rail voltage and diesel mode can technically operate anywhere even on the main line and non-powered sections as they can use the diesel engine.
The trams look like those on the Randstadrail system in Den Haag, NL
Cause it’s the same Model
1:39 this tram uses an Alstom-Traxis VF
Traxis was formerly known as Holec so your deduction was right
Do you know what VF drive the UK Class 465 /0 /1 had before the Hitachi replacement. I am struggling to find this information.
@@benolifts Not sure if this helps but there is a guy on youtube with a bunch of videos on 465021
th-cam.com/video/Cr7vm4yt20o/w-d-xo.html - such as this one
I have done many videos on it before it got modernized. I have never managed to work out which VF it is. It is a different VF to the 465/2 /9 365 and 1996 trains which have some kind of GEC or ONIX VF drive.
@@benolifts It was a GTO converter from Brush Traction
Great video, and a really brilliant tram network 👍
In the netherlands we also have those trams
True i drive that tram for work but the sound is different
Very interesting system diesel tram? i guess it works like on train like on diesel train as generator.
Amused by the additional knitting required at gauntlet tracks to keep catenary safe whilst maintaining the stagger \m/
If the triple interlaced track needed overhead power on all 3 ways then the overhead wires would have been very interesting. But on this part of the system, it is electrified at tramway voltage (rather than mainline voltage), meaning there are no mainline trains using electricity here, so the straight ahead route of the interlaced track is not electrified. This route is more of an express tram than a tram train as mainline trains no longer use this route. I am not sure of the reason of the route being kept available to diesel DB trains, but I think this is for DB cargo only, which as far as I know, would very rarely operate on this route.
If you can, you can go to Chisinau, moldova and do an urbex in this national hotel. Literally it’s name is national. Anyways it’s a very nice abandoned hotel that it would be nice to explore, so could you do it?
Nice video, I really love the tram train system, we have a few here in France? Nantes is my favourite one, I'd like to try the Mulhouse system one day.
Also do you have any plans to go back to Paris?
You should try the new MP14 stock on the line 14 it's amazing, the stock has 8 coaches on the line 14 version.
And line 4 is starting to get automated, the line still have a lot of MP89 CC driver version, four MP89CA the driver-less version from the line 14 two MP05 RB they're former line 14 trains, also the classic RATP livery is going to be replaced with the blue and white Ile de France Mobilités on these trains, but two MP89CA still have the RATP livery, also the line 4 is going to get a few MP14 in a six coach version. At least three models are going to be operated in the line 4 once the line is fully automated most of the models are former line 14 trains,
But I'd recommend you to wait more, the line 6 is going to get the MP89CC from the line 4 in a few months, in a modified version, and line 11 is going to get a driver MP14 version in 2023-2024
in the Netherlands The hague is this tram to
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@@benolifts Hope you tried the hot chocolate in the train station, it’s super cheap and self made😋
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I visited every major city in Germany
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