@@DevOdyssey I dont know why spend money on a miny PC or something that has one port while a cudy router is fully openwrt supported and its dual core that can handle workflow...
@@Muriz26 I would agree. This video was to demonstrate how a router on a stick works, but this is not something I personally use in my home network. This is for people who just want to use a Raspberry Pi as a home router and not use a USB Ethernet NIC. I’d definitely recommend something with at least two ports. I did make a video with a CM4 and a carrier board that has 2 ports (one native, the other PCIe) that’s a better candidate as a router. th-cam.com/video/o2NTvaRv4Yg/w-d-xo.html But for more ports, I’d use a something like a Cudy unless you want to do IDS / IPS and more security network related functions, then for sure a BSD based OS from my experience. There are other Linux based Network OSes I haven’t tried, like VyOS and IPFire, so I’m curious to see how they stack up against the FreeBSD based OPNsense and pfSense, and make videos on them.
I did something similar, with a combination of pfSense and OpenWRT. I have a single NIC mini PC running pfSense which is my main router/firewall, an older OpenWRT router configured to be just a layer 3 switch, and another OpenWRT router as a dumb access point to deliver WiFi. I have also been adding new VLANs to this configuration. Technically I probably could cut out one of them and just use a single OpenWRT router to act as both the layer 3 switch and access point, but I don't want to mess with it right now.
I did the same config. Separate L3 switch is not needed since oprnwrt is also L3 switch. You could buy a tp link c7 and install openwrt if you are willing to do rassberypie as the main router. C7 can act as a l2 switch
Thanks for sharing @iTzJeSsE08! I like the setup, open source network all the way through. Thats a very creative way of doing that, getting OpenWrt on an old router and using that as your switch, and another as a dumb AP. Often, I get to the point where if it works, don't bother it. Until you get the idea of wanting to make it better, then eventually you tweak the and hope it doesn't break haha. I'd like to get off UniFi one day and this is a route (no pun intended) I'd consider, or just moving to mikrotik switches. They offer good bang for your buck IMO.
@Muriz26 Thats correct, since OpenWrt will do the routing for you. You're suggestion would be a good one if anyone wants to "DIY" their own switch, based on a off the shelf router. Beats some of the prices you'd pay for enterprise / prosumer switches, and gets the job done just as nicely. The C7 would act as a good enough L2 VLAN switch for a home deployment.
@@Muriz26 This gives me an idea of making a budget friendly home lab using Open Source software. The switch is usually the hardest part, since there isn't anything else open source that will run on switch hardware (OpenWrt can do switching as we obviously know, but that only runs on router hardware). So since you can repurpose a switch that way, you can make a fully open source, budget friendly home lab to play around with and learn networking.
Thank you very much @familytamelo8140! You're Super Thanks is extremely well timed 😊. Honestly, it meant so much when I saw this, my first Super Thanks, on Thanksgiving day. I couldn't be more thankful for my audience and everyone who watches my videos, like yourself. Thanks for sharing feeling of thanks with me yesterday. I'll always remember it.
@@familytamelo8140 Thanks! Hearing that helps me to keep going. I look forward to creating more top class content more frequently into the coming year, you can count on it! 😎
Thanks for watching @Muriz26! Thats a good point, and often a misconception I fall into. Really I should have said "VLAN capable switch" cause in truth, thats al you need. Often, I see these sold as "L2+ or L3", and I make the association of VLANs being _solely_ L3. Though, I know there are different ways VLANs can be setup (on L2 or L3), often VLAN features are touted on "L2+ or L3" switches, i.e. managed switches, as opposed to "dumb" switches. Isn't the OSI model fun? 😅 Given what you've said, sounds like you have an L2 switch that handles VLANs for you no problem. Thanks again sharing that, I appreciate it.
@@DevOdyssey L3 is the network layer on the OSI model. Openwrt is capable of doing L3 addresses therefore you only need a managed switch that you could log into its GUI and set the perimeters like untag and tagged ports with the vlan assignments. TP Link c7 can act like a L2 device, the data link layer...
@@Muriz26 Well said. I was making the joke of OSI model because its just theory, and sometimes, different concepts don't fall into OSI layers well, and people contend what service or protocol can fall into what layer. Certainly, VLANs fall in L2. A managed switch is really all thats needed, and the biggest benefit really for an L3 switch is for routing at line rate of the switch. But most smaller home lab deployments don't really need that anyway, unless you just want to play around and learn, like me 🙂 I haven't used the TP Link C7 but it's definitely awesome it can do that, for anyone who wants to be cost conscious and have an inexpensive managed switch. My first VLAN and second VLAN videos go into that, in how OpenWrt can be used as a managed switch, although I only explicitly say that in the second video. But, I wouldnt recommend Netgear R6080 as a managed switch since the ports are only 100 MB/s. th-cam.com/video/5TtlAXeaGUM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/d3aYMqt-b_c/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching @kgoerbig! Yea that would be way easier haha. I did this just so I could try it out and see it working, since most learn it conceptually in school using software like packet tracer. Its cool to actually see it working IRL. A mini PC with faster, dedicated NICs is way better for networking. Heck I have one myself that I use for my OPNsense videos. If I ever downsize my homelab, I'd use something like that as my firewall, for its convenient form factor and fast networking. Though, personally I might skip to 10Gb for my LAN so I can edit videos off my NAS in the future.
Thanks for watching @Aryansamthaan! I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking for me to elaborate on how to create more VLAN networks with the router on a stick topology shown in this video? It should simply be a repeat of what I've shown, for both WAN and LAN.
@@Aryansamthaan The intent of this video has nothing to do with proxy servers, and is simply a matter of a network topology where a router has one physical ethernet port. This video really isn't the right place to get into discussion around proxy servers / proxies.
@@Aryansamthaan Looks like you already commented on that video, my HTTP / SOCKS proxy video. I replied to that comment on that video, and would prefer to continue the discussion there.
I can't guarantee that I will make a video on that, but I'll look into it. I have plenty to learn with IPv6, and implement as well, as I've never implemented an IPv6 network, I've just learned about it through research, nothing too hands on. For any proxy type comments, they're better placed on videos where I talk about proxies and set them up.
Anyone else surprised to discover most consumer grade routers are "router on a stick" configurations?
@@DevOdyssey I dont know why spend money on a miny PC or something that has one port while a cudy router is fully openwrt supported and its dual core that can handle workflow...
@@DevOdyssey If you buy a PC that is powerful and install pfsense that makes more sense
@@Muriz26 I would agree. This video was to demonstrate how a router on a stick works, but this is not something I personally use in my home network. This is for people who just want to use a Raspberry Pi as a home router and not use a USB Ethernet NIC.
I’d definitely recommend something with at least two ports. I did make a video with a CM4 and a carrier board that has 2 ports (one native, the other PCIe) that’s a better candidate as a router.
th-cam.com/video/o2NTvaRv4Yg/w-d-xo.html
But for more ports, I’d use a something like a Cudy unless you want to do IDS / IPS and more security network related functions, then for sure a BSD based OS from my experience. There are other Linux based Network OSes I haven’t tried, like VyOS and IPFire, so I’m curious to see how they stack up against the FreeBSD based OPNsense and pfSense, and make videos on them.
I did something similar, with a combination of pfSense and OpenWRT. I have a single NIC mini PC running pfSense which is my main router/firewall, an older OpenWRT router configured to be just a layer 3 switch, and another OpenWRT router as a dumb access point to deliver WiFi. I have also been adding new VLANs to this configuration. Technically I probably could cut out one of them and just use a single OpenWRT router to act as both the layer 3 switch and access point, but I don't want to mess with it right now.
I did the same config. Separate L3 switch is not needed since oprnwrt is also L3 switch. You could buy a tp link c7 and install openwrt if you are willing to do rassberypie as the main router. C7 can act as a l2 switch
Thanks for sharing @iTzJeSsE08!
I like the setup, open source network all the way through. Thats a very creative way of doing that, getting OpenWrt on an old router and using that as your switch, and another as a dumb AP.
Often, I get to the point where if it works, don't bother it. Until you get the idea of wanting to make it better, then eventually you tweak the and hope it doesn't break haha.
I'd like to get off UniFi one day and this is a route (no pun intended) I'd consider, or just moving to mikrotik switches. They offer good bang for your buck IMO.
@Muriz26 Thats correct, since OpenWrt will do the routing for you. You're suggestion would be a good one if anyone wants to "DIY" their own switch, based on a off the shelf router. Beats some of the prices you'd pay for enterprise / prosumer switches, and gets the job done just as nicely. The C7 would act as a good enough L2 VLAN switch for a home deployment.
@@DevOdyssey yes... And its a good dumb access point....I have a setup with pfsense and c7 as a l2 switch
@@Muriz26 This gives me an idea of making a budget friendly home lab using Open Source software. The switch is usually the hardest part, since there isn't anything else open source that will run on switch hardware (OpenWrt can do switching as we obviously know, but that only runs on router hardware). So since you can repurpose a switch that way, you can make a fully open source, budget friendly home lab to play around with and learn networking.
Thanks!
Thank you very much @familytamelo8140!
You're Super Thanks is extremely well timed 😊. Honestly, it meant so much when I saw this, my first Super Thanks, on Thanksgiving day. I couldn't be more thankful for my audience and everyone who watches my videos, like yourself. Thanks for sharing feeling of thanks with me yesterday. I'll always remember it.
@DevOdyssey you, sir, produce top class content. I'm sure it helps lots of people. Please keep it up!
@@familytamelo8140 Thanks! Hearing that helps me to keep going. I look forward to creating more top class content more frequently into the coming year, you can count on it! 😎
Great video, thanks!
Thanks @Kevin-t6d3p! 😊
I am confused.... Why do you need L3 switch while opnwrt is a L3 appliance? I have a L2 switch and easy setup.
Thanks for watching @Muriz26!
Thats a good point, and often a misconception I fall into. Really I should have said "VLAN capable switch" cause in truth, thats al you need. Often, I see these sold as "L2+ or L3", and I make the association of VLANs being _solely_ L3. Though, I know there are different ways VLANs can be setup (on L2 or L3), often VLAN features are touted on "L2+ or L3" switches, i.e. managed switches, as opposed to "dumb" switches. Isn't the OSI model fun? 😅
Given what you've said, sounds like you have an L2 switch that handles VLANs for you no problem.
Thanks again sharing that, I appreciate it.
@@DevOdyssey L3 is the network layer on the OSI model. Openwrt is capable of doing L3 addresses therefore you only need a managed switch that you could log into its GUI and set the perimeters like untag and tagged ports with the vlan assignments. TP Link c7 can act like a L2 device, the data link layer...
@@Muriz26 Well said. I was making the joke of OSI model because its just theory, and sometimes, different concepts don't fall into OSI layers well, and people contend what service or protocol can fall into what layer.
Certainly, VLANs fall in L2. A managed switch is really all thats needed, and the biggest benefit really for an L3 switch is for routing at line rate of the switch. But most smaller home lab deployments don't really need that anyway, unless you just want to play around and learn, like me 🙂
I haven't used the TP Link C7 but it's definitely awesome it can do that, for anyone who wants to be cost conscious and have an inexpensive managed switch. My first VLAN and second VLAN videos go into that, in how OpenWrt can be used as a managed switch, although I only explicitly say that in the second video. But, I wouldnt recommend Netgear R6080 as a managed switch since the ports are only 100 MB/s.
th-cam.com/video/5TtlAXeaGUM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/d3aYMqt-b_c/w-d-xo.html
Or rather than fussing with a Rasp PI and USB nics, get a minipc with four 2.5Gbps built-in.
Thanks for watching @kgoerbig!
Yea that would be way easier haha. I did this just so I could try it out and see it working, since most learn it conceptually in school using software like packet tracer. Its cool to actually see it working IRL.
A mini PC with faster, dedicated NICs is way better for networking. Heck I have one myself that I use for my OPNsense videos. If I ever downsize my homelab, I'd use something like that as my firewall, for its convenient form factor and fast networking. Though, personally I might skip to 10Gb for my LAN so I can edit videos off my NAS in the future.
Please Create multiple ip making video for current date
Thanks for watching @Aryansamthaan!
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking for me to elaborate on how to create more VLAN networks with the router on a stick topology shown in this video? It should simply be a repeat of what I've shown, for both WAN and LAN.
@@DevOdysseyHow to create multiple ipv6 address (proxy server) using a single vps
@@Aryansamthaan The intent of this video has nothing to do with proxy servers, and is simply a matter of a network topology where a router has one physical ethernet port. This video really isn't the right place to get into discussion around proxy servers / proxies.
@DevOdyssey so sir do you have any video on proxy server on pc
@@Aryansamthaan Looks like you already commented on that video, my HTTP / SOCKS proxy video.
I replied to that comment on that video, and would prefer to continue the discussion there.
Please make a video on 3proxy
And show how to create multiple ipv6 proxy using 3proxy
I can't guarantee that I will make a video on that, but I'll look into it. I have plenty to learn with IPv6, and implement as well, as I've never implemented an IPv6 network, I've just learned about it through research, nothing too hands on. For any proxy type comments, they're better placed on videos where I talk about proxies and set them up.