Thanks for sharing the great video. So you can make do with the cheap gun if you know how to set it up, but the premium gun is so much better. I would like to see how the middle priced guns that you link to perform, how far up that ladder of price do you have to climb until you get to something that is going to work well? Keep up the amazing work!
I have 2 spray guns in the 30ish EU range which I use for sealer and clear coat, never encountered a problem and I am not an experienced painter. Maybe I got lucky twice 😁
hi martin interesting video! is there anything between those 2 guns? i´m starting at 0 and i just cannot afford a gun for 300+ maybe a video about an affordable compressor and what to do about getting rid of moisture and other stuff in the lines? i´m only painting up to 10 frames a year and i don´t want to turn pro.
My air filters cost more than 300$ per filter and I have 3 of them in line. My refridgeon dryer to remove the moisture costs 4000$. So what should I tell you? Cheap stuff - poor results, no matter how often you use your tools.
@@revolutronic Dont be too discouraged you don't always have to spend a fortune for good results I am still using a $30 water trap on my compressor and have no problem getting a good finish. Would highly recommend something like the spraygun A.N.I. R160-Q which is around $100. You can get fantastic results with these check out Fatcreations they are custom painting bikes with these guns and all looking great on instagram. the gunman on youtube also gives this good reviews.
Hey Martin! I've watched all your videos on DIY painting including all the reviews of ppl failing🤣. I think I've learned enough to spend hours upon hours sanding my frame. But I still have some questions: How do I make sure to paint the inside of the forks well. And I get an orange peel effect when spraying the color even after I sand down the primer with 1500 grit sandpaper, question is do I sand down the color as well (I'm using different colors in some places), or do I clear coat over it and sand down the clear coat? Lastly, on my test piece I get an orange peel effect on my clear coat with the Montana varnish cans, should I just automotive polish the final clear coat, or should I just buy the fancy 2 component system? Thanks for your time and seriously your videos have inspired me to paint my bikes (sorry for sounding like an ancient cat🤣)
Orange peel is normal for DIYers. They have no feel for the can. Female DIYers are better because most of them emptied thousands of haispray cans over the years and have more practice . So let your girlfriend do the job. Problem solved.
If the main reason cheap one is worse due to only having 3 holes couldn't you just change out to a different nozzle with more holes. What about comparing a more averaged price gun $75 or so to the $300 gun because that would be a better comparison
By the end of the video it looks like someone forgot to wear a proper painting mask. I hope you have proper ventilation over there. Thanks for the demo. Take care!
Would imagine the $300 Gun would win, the question is can a cheap gun do a reasonable job for an occasional use hobbyist, and how cheap can you go to get a decent result. I want a spray gun setup but would only be used a few times a year (currently use Spray cans) (Edit: I wrote this when the Video was in Pre-release so hadn't watched it yet))
Blake Antcliff, Martin explained the differences between the two spray guns and at the end he said "buy the best that you can afford!" This makes sense as the cheap spray gun will not give you a Professional finish and you probably won't be happy with the outcome, invest a little more and you'll get a better outcome. Spray Guns U.K. Com do a wide variety of spray guns to suit every pocket! (I am not sponsored by them but.......) I've used their stuff and from the 3m tapes to the iwata airbrush, it's the cheapest that I could find and fast delivery!
@@joseywales3789 I saw his video when he bought the cheap gun, I posted my comment yesterday after the pre release announcement (I'll get to watch the actual video shortly)
@@ETOE ahh true. my bad. Just seemed like the cheaper gun had a obvious different tip size and flow. btw if i paint a carbon frame, fully stripped down can i seal it with sealer or better to just primer and sand?
Spray can I'd say. Spray gun requires, air/compressor, hose, adaptors, cleaning products, colours,etc.. while you only need three cans: primer, base and clear.
Graham Shields, Remoan!! Remoan!! 😂🤣😂🤣 perhaps by tomorrow night, it'll be official, No Deal! But it's only been 1,600 and a few days!! Personally, I love Europeans...... but hate the E.U. 👍🇬🇧👍😂🤣😂🤣😂
Never buy a used gun if you have no clue how a spray gun should work properly and how to fix failure. Only if you have the knowledge to do the troubleshooting.
ETOE I agree, but If you are going to be serious about painting bikes - and other cool things, you need to learn how to take care of your equipment and not be afraid to take something apart to inspect it
First I wanted to paint a bike, then I found this great Channel and now I just keep watching and enjoying it for entertainment 🤗. Great Videos 👍
Martin's writing with a spray gun is better than mine with a pen
As always, another great well done and informative video
Thanks for sharing the great video.
So you can make do with the cheap gun if you know how to set it up, but the premium gun is so much better.
I would like to see how the middle priced guns that you link to perform, how far up that ladder of price do you have to climb until you get to something that is going to work well?
Keep up the amazing work!
And once you get to decent where is the point of diminishing returns?
@@glencharles1129 exactly
Great useful, factual and interesting video, as usual 😎
Many thanks for those videos, and for the links about the spray guns 👍🏻
My fav new channel.
Can’t wait! Ever think about painting one of those Chinese carbon fiber frames? I always wonder if they are any good. Have you painted one Martin?
90 percent of all bike frames of big companies are produced in china or africa.
Thanks Martin for sharing this !
Glad you enjoyed it
I have 2 spray guns in the 30ish EU range which I use for sealer and clear coat, never encountered a problem and I am not an experienced painter. Maybe I got lucky twice 😁
Atomization of a wet fart!! Almost killed me 🤣🤣
Excellent video!! 👊🏼 Next time take your own advice and wear a mask so you don’t choke so much. 😉
Классный мужик, рассказывает так, что все понятно. Пойду выброшу китайский спрей ган.
very interesting review. I follow you since confinement. You inspired me for a couple home made paint jobs. Danke!
you can hear the shyty threads on the cheap nozzle
Por que no hay subtitulos en español 😭😭😭😭😭
hi martin interesting video!
is there anything between those 2 guns? i´m starting at 0 and i just cannot afford a gun for 300+
maybe a video about an affordable compressor and what to do about getting rid of moisture and other stuff in the lines?
i´m only painting up to 10 frames a year and i don´t want to turn pro.
My air filters cost more than 300$ per filter and I have 3 of them in line. My refridgeon dryer to remove the moisture costs 4000$. So what should I tell you? Cheap stuff - poor results, no matter how often you use your tools.
@@ETOE oh shit. i had no clue.
so back to spraycans ...
thanks for the reply
@@revolutronic Dont be too discouraged you don't always have to spend a fortune for good results I am still using a $30 water trap on my compressor and have no problem getting a good finish. Would highly recommend something like the spraygun A.N.I. R160-Q which is around $100. You can get fantastic results with these check out Fatcreations they are custom painting bikes with these guns and all looking great on instagram. the gunman on youtube also gives this good reviews.
@@b0b711sounds good. i will look into that . thanks man!
Hey Martin! I've watched all your videos on DIY painting including all the reviews of ppl failing🤣. I think I've learned enough to spend hours upon hours sanding my frame. But I still have some questions: How do I make sure to paint the inside of the forks well. And I get an orange peel effect when spraying the color even after I sand down the primer with 1500 grit sandpaper, question is do I sand down the color as well (I'm using different colors in some places), or do I clear coat over it and sand down the clear coat?
Lastly, on my test piece I get an orange peel effect on my clear coat with the Montana varnish cans, should I just automotive polish the final clear coat, or should I just buy the fancy 2 component system?
Thanks for your time and seriously your videos have inspired me to paint my bikes (sorry for sounding like an ancient cat🤣)
Orange peel is normal for DIYers.
They have no feel for the can. Female DIYers are better because most of them emptied thousands of haispray cans over the years and have more practice
. So let your girlfriend do the job. Problem solved.
@@ETOE 🤣🤣
If the main reason cheap one is worse due to only having 3 holes couldn't you just change out to a different nozzle with more holes. What about comparing a more averaged price gun $75 or so to the $300 gun because that would be a better comparison
Most people want it as cheap as possible. 12$ is best!
a very informative and practical demonstration , well done
By the end of the video it looks like someone forgot to wear a proper painting mask. I hope you have proper ventilation over there. Thanks for the demo. Take care!
Would imagine the $300 Gun would win, the question is can a cheap gun do a reasonable job for an occasional use hobbyist, and how cheap can you go to get a decent result.
I want a spray gun setup but would only be used a few times a year (currently use Spray cans)
(Edit: I wrote this when the Video was in Pre-release so hadn't watched it yet))
Blake Antcliff, Martin explained the differences between the two spray guns and at the end he said "buy the best that you can afford!" This makes sense as the cheap spray gun will not give you a Professional finish and you probably won't be happy with the outcome, invest a little more and you'll get a better outcome. Spray Guns U.K. Com do a wide variety of spray guns to suit every pocket! (I am not sponsored by them but.......) I've used their stuff and from the 3m tapes to the iwata airbrush, it's the cheapest that I could find and fast delivery!
@@joseywales3789 I saw his video when he bought the cheap gun, I posted my comment yesterday after the pre release announcement (I'll get to watch the actual video shortly)
@Blake Antcliff, 👍 yep!!!!! I wasn't being negative and I didn't really understand your comment BUT now given the context, it makes perfect sense!
I like the cheap one in writing names its much clearer and bolder 😂😛✌️ expensive one i even dont read it clear what is written LOL!😁
Great Video!
are those same nozzle size? i dont think so....
Yes same nozzle size in both spray guns. But the cone on the needle is different. So one is precise and one not.
How much Air pressure do you have in your line? do you run a regulator on your guns or just on the filter?
Nearly the same a good old chilli fart has. 🌶
I set the pressure with the cheater valve.
ETOE, Martin, is that a Mexican Chilli 🌶 💨 Fart....... or an Indian Vindaloo Chilli Fart 💥???? And do you use a inline moisture trap?? 😂🤣😂🤣👍🇬🇧
Damn, I thought this video was about ray guns..... ZAP! Only joking, really interesting, I’d love to try a spray gun and compressor sometime.
Blotchy and blurry vs. smooth and precise.
but you have failed to mention the nozzle tip size. nozzle tip size would be pointless to compare 2 different nozzle tip sizes.
But you failed to listen what I said. I mentioned the nozzle tip sizes and mentioned also that both guns have the same size. But you ain't care.
@@ETOE ahh true. my bad. Just seemed like the cheaper gun had a obvious different tip size and flow. btw if i paint a carbon frame, fully stripped down can i seal it with sealer or better to just primer and sand?
@@ETOE hahha owned!, F -, Kick him out of class teacher!
Very informative, agree 100% with your insights :)
Iwata forever!
Drill more holes in the cheap one guy can buy a lot of 12 ones for 300 bucks I want to see that
My wallet and I will be rooting for the cheap one👍
der furz gag hat mich komplett umgehauen 🤣
This man is a boss!!+
Superb-)y demonstrated👍👌
Cheap Spray gun or spray can?
Spray can I'd say. Spray gun requires, air/compressor, hose, adaptors, cleaning products, colours,etc.. while you only need three cans: primer, base and clear.
Martin, you should do a video on painting a pair of glasses.
Like waiting for Brexit... 😉
🤣🤣
Graham Shields, Remoan!! Remoan!! 😂🤣😂🤣 perhaps by tomorrow night, it'll be official, No Deal! But it's only been 1,600 and a few days!! Personally, I love Europeans...... but hate the E.U. 👍🇬🇧👍😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@joseywales3789 Yup same here, I've spent years working in the EU & have friends in many countries, I have no issues with our EU brothers & Sisters!
Spanish please!! 🙏
Can’t afford new? Look for a good used one.
Never buy a used gun if you have no clue how a spray gun should work properly and how to fix failure. Only if you have the knowledge to do the troubleshooting.
ETOE I agree, but If you are going to be serious about painting bikes - and other cool things, you need to learn how to take care of your equipment and not be afraid to take something apart to inspect it
And I LUV your channel!
In summary, forget the cheapo crap & buy a decent quality gun, Chalk & Cheese as we say ...