Back when the government was more "we need to be proactive with deterance measures in case of war" And less "this lab can't use carcinogenic chemicals"
When I was in junior high I was really into chemistry and there was a chemistry book in the school library that had all sorts of dangerous experiments (mercury, nitric acid, fireworks) including making bakelite. This was back in the 70's.
My sister gave me her old chemistry textbook from the 80s that had a pyrochemistry section, including how to make mononitriletoluene with a warning that if you cook it too much you'll get TNT...
The knowledge that there's a machine out there called "the Bakelizer" that looks like a steampunk bomb but just makes cool plastic brings a smile to my face
When I took industrial hygiene, my teacher showed us a formaldehyde detector and told us that he'd demonstrate it but that there's not likely any formaldehyde nearby us. I raised my hand and asked if there was any bakelite nearby, because that should have formaldehyde. He was surprised that I knew about that and said that he had a battery case or something made of black bakelite. So we set the monitor next to it and it worked! It detected a little bit of formaldehyde!
If you wish to revisit this, you should be able to build a workable bakerlizer(sp) using a steel 'pressure pot' of the type used for paint sprayers. Mine has a working pressure of 80 psi(And according to steam tables, should be good at keeping water from boiling below about 160c) and has a silicon seal that should hold well with the heat. Do be careful do to the whole 'steam explosion' risk if you wish to go down this path. :)
@@paulskalla6845 ~40psia will get you the 270°F. You're looking for a temp range between ~266°F and 392°F. ~200psia on the high side... So a 30psi pressure vessel could barely do the job at sea level if you don't get runaway. Pretty sure a standard autoclave is a low pressure unit and taps out at 15psig. A decent temperature control set up set to the low end could prevent runaway... So an 80psi vessel could probably safely do the job. But a higher quality high pressure vessel would be best. But I'm pretty sure making aerogel would be a more useful and easier endeavor unless you're making something designed to sustain impact.
A pressure vessel, or at a pinch, a repurposed pressure cooker shouldn't be too hard to set up for the resol production, but I guess it will still "froth up" when the pressure is released? Maybe less than with steam bubbles though. 😁 I'm sure something small-scale wouldn't be too difficult, and it would be great to see and actual Bakelite object being moulded an baked. ♥️
Even though it's an early form of synthetic material, Bakelite has a certain tactile and visual quality that modern plastics just haven't got. I remember that it had a strong smell though.
Only if you had it exposed to either light or water/moisture. In pristine condition, it's almost odorless (mostly because it's so dense, so there's less sites for stuff to escape). That aside, it really is a beautiful plastic. It has a nobility run of the mill plastic does not. Not even resins can emulate its cool feel. And it lasts (when maintained properly) for ever. Despite its shortcomings, it would be a much better plastic for certain objects so they don't break as fast.
man i just love how it looks so much, and I like that as a plastic, it was very purpose-built. Everything made with bakelite wasn't made to be disposable.
Its not a good test. Nothing can be learnt from putting them in a vacuum. Its the job of gauges to judge various states of low pressure, Not marshmallows.
Thank you. I can see that you spent a lot of time researching, doing the chemical experiments, taping, editing, ... Your efforts are _much_ appreciated.
@NileRed I find myself 50 yo and I still remember many things that were made of bakelite. In my grandmother's house, the telephone, the wall sockets (outlets) and parts of her toaster were made from bakelite, for instance. All things made of bakelite I remember were coloured black. They all shared one aspect, they would break easily.. the bakelite used for them was hard, but brittle - it would not live up to any kind of impact. I always thought that that was just what bakelite was like, that it was an unavoidable sort of imperfection of the kind of material. Watching your video however makes me wonder if that brittleness actually rather was due to the amount of fillers that the producents of all those things put into it. I can imagine that using fillers would make it much cheaper to produce things that were made of bakelite. And, if I understand correctly, it was already put under pressure to cure it in the forms used - which also would have made it very easy to fill them up with a powdery filler first, then flood make that filler and make it absorb a much lower amount of the actual bakelite whilst still in liquid form. And when it was cured its surfaces would be as smooth as the insides of the forms that were used were, and you totally wouldn't be able to tell by sight that any fillers were in it anyway. .. until you actuality broke the household item that it most likely was what they made, and even then you'd only be able to tell be cause of the grainy inner structure that now got exposed. You think that is how it was, or were other effects causing these properties? And thank you by the way!
You very likely had the cheap bakelite that came after the patents expired, which were made to capitalize on it. It's not the main reason, but it's one of the major reasons why bakelite is pretty much extinct today. Once the patents expired, nobody did things right and just wanted in on the action, subpar products caught the market and so a lot of the stuff is cheap and brittle. Properly made bakelite is very strong, it behaves less like a plastic and more like a composite. I have original bakelite bars, from the original manufacturer pre 1930's and they're very durable. Some chips exist, wherever they were dinged and dropped over the years, but no shattering or cracking. And we're talking about thin stuff, used to promote the product, not actual use items that would've had various strength inducing features like fillets or ribs.
@@aserta I think another thing is also just the quality of molds and products. Vintage Italian and French coffee stuff is chock full of black bakelite handles and knobs, most of which have held up much better than most plastics even from the 90's to 2000's on game consoles or kitchen appliances.
Soviets used the bakelite far into 1980's that was quite robust and withstanded time quite well also, I remember seeing switches and outlets from 1960's still intact in 2000's, some even outside in the sun._
I used bakelite in school while hand making electronic boards, and that stuff was hard and robust, you'd have to hit it with a hammer to make it break, and it just like 4mm. I don't remember having to struggle a lot when sawing it, I think it was similar to cutting softwood. And I do remember the insides being whitish and grainy, so I guess it was a novolac
I just bought some cheap electrical switches made of soft plastic that melted when I tried soldering the metal connection tabs. Since the switch can fail, I will not use them except for low current and voltage applications, far less than the switches "rating." The old bakelite switches are really durable. Always wondered how it was made.
Thats exactly what im here for! The WW2 german Volksempfanger radio cases are bakelite, id like to reproduce them in printed plastic with Bluetooth speakers inside for ww2 reenactments, i bet everyone in the reenactor community would buy them.
Fun fact: Bake lite was used as furniture for many firearms back in the day, especially popular in the Soviet union. It proved much more tough, wear resistant and weatherproof than wood. however, although very hard, when bakelite breaks it fractures in extremely jagged an sharp edges. It was removed from firearm furniture in no small part due to soldiers getting impaled by their weapons if they fell on them the wrong way...
Novolax sounds like a laxative for your nose.... So a decongestant ? Lol.... Now that's a weird thought, laxatives are just a decongestant for you colon
Use a pressure pot. I’m a dental technician and when I do acrylic repairs(Methylmethacrylate monomer/polymer) monomer liquid and powder. When I do a dental repair I put it in a pressure pot. You can control the temperature and of course pressure. By putting my repairs in the pressure pot it would heat it up to cure it but also the pressure would make sure no porosity(bubbles) in the acrylic. There are some really nice and fancy ones but the one we use it’s pretty cheap I mean you can find them for like $50-$100 probably at Walmart or something. I don’t know if that’s the same thing as that cool device that guy made but it just heated it up and then pressurized it sounds to me like a pressure pot that has a adjustable temperature gauge that I use at work for the exact purpose of curing acrylic and avoiding porosity. Maybe check it out. Love your videos!!!!! Long time fan
Basically the only reason I know what bakelite is is from watching Evangelion back when I was in high school, so that’s the first thing I think of whenever I see it haha.
Swampy Mudkipz when you see the first flash of color that goes away once you swirl it, you need to do it very very very slowly. Slow and steady wins the race with titration.
Swampy Mudkipz okay, so you have to figure out how many mL of titrant you used, the titrant is the one that you know the concentration is. Convert the mL to liters and multiply the molarity of the titrant by that amount in L. That's the amount of moles of titrant you used. Then do your molar conversion based on the coefficients in the equation, and that is the moles that were reacted in the solution of unknown concentration. So divide that by the volume of unknown, in liters, and boom! The concentration of your unknown solution.
It's been a while since I've had the chance to sit down and watch your videos, but I'm really happy to see you doing polymers! Especially something like Bakelite, which isn't covered nearly enough.
Dude,the heart shaped item was perfect, duel colour in one process! As the Bee Gees once said "You should be dancing, YEA!" Of course cheap jewellery was not your mission statement, but still....As always, stellar content. Love from the UK.
NileRed - if you want to turn your toaster oven in to a temperature controlled environment then you may want to look in to getting toaster over temperature controllers for surface mount printed circuit board production. I've used one for PCB prototyping for a few years and they work surprisingly well. The toaster modification is a temperature controller that keeps the oven within a defined range instead of an arbitrary numeric "heat" level that you can calibrate quite accurately. They're not hard to make if you don't want to buy one either, plenty of DIY projects around.
Bakelite still used in some applications that require high heat resistance and good electrical insulation properties such as vehicle ignition components and electrical outlets.
I did a full report on the history of polymers. Very interesting how much stuff and how many jobs it fit into and replaced, like horners, people who worked with heating animal horn or crushing it into pulps to form complex items like combs, piano keys, etc, was eventually taken over by people who worked with natural rubbers and bakelite.
Thanks,this was very interesting! You must have spent a lot of time on making this video. I liked the in depth presentation of the mechanisms. Keep up the good work!
Bakelite just makes me think of my grandmas ☺️ They had all sorts from combs to jewelry to toilet roll holders ! Everything was bakelite!! I hated it, it was always so ugly, but at the same time I miss it because I miss my gmas
Sweet! There was a lot of bakelite around when I was young, now of course not so much. I've known what it is and how it was made for many years, but have never had a chance until now to actually see the process performed.
Bakelite is one of those products that isn't made as much anymore but is actually higher quality than what is currently being used instead. Since it isn't as soluable it holds up more than other polymers. Actually, a lot of people test to see if their thrift store jewelry finds are bakelite by swiping some acetone on the surface. Modern plastics will melt while bakelite is uneffected. Since "vintage" bakelite is worth a bit of money as lots of people collect it, this is worth testing for say an eBay/etsy seller. I find this concept fascinating since putting plastic in acetone is one of my favorite things to do... I make jewelry and sometimes redesign cheap costume jewelry. The easiest way to get cheap plastic rhinestones/cabochons out of a metal bezel is just to drop it in a bowl of acetone and it's just really cool to watch or to repeatedly poke the melting plastic with a toothpick.
Isn’t bakelite the type of plastic they used for plastic parts on early electric guitars? That stuff “gassed off” and became brittle after a while right? (I might be confusing it with a different type of plastic)
If I'm remembering what I was told, this stuff was also used in combination with cloth wiring. The house my friends and I just moved out of had cloth wiring throughout, so I learned a bit about it while I was there. The bakelite would crumble away, and of course cloth rots as well, leaving live wires exposed to each other.
I was fascinated by the way he described the molecular reactions. When he explains things like that it really helps me understand what is happening and why. ❤
I was making that resin into the early 2000's. The plant didn't have fancy things like a control room 😆. You controlled the heat , which was steam through 6 inch coils inside a big kettle with a 2 inch ball valve. Then when you needed cooling you shut the steam off and switch to cooling water to control the exothermic reaction. 40,000 lbs of phenol and around 10,000 lbs of formaldehyde, i can't remember what the catalyst was. It was an interesting job 🤣🤣🤣. Exciting also, especially when someone mixed the wrong things together or lost control of the exothermic reaction of a batch.
Bakelite is still used to this day. For ex my desktop CNC has bakelite in its frame. It is tremendously rigid and good for such applications that need precision mechanics.
During a Properties of Materials course I took, we pressed steel samples into bakelite pucks with one face showing. with the larger size of the puck we spent a long time polishing the steel until the grains of the steel were visible under a microscope
That was my first thought when I seen the video although let’s not forget that AKs are pretty much all prohibited with the exception of two specific models here in Canada.... at least we have norinco products including the t97 bullpup and the ak skis hibird type 81
I remember in high school, one of the candidates for the mock election ran on a platform of giving every American two guns on their 18th birthday. The punishment for a convicted felony was losing a gun, and you were convicted of one and had no more guns, you could face jail time. He won by a landslide. Although, that was probably because he also wanted to legalize weed.
Fun gun fact, the MP40, a German WWII submachine gun, used bakelite grips. Though, the grips were disliked as they were uncomfortable. This led to the grips being swapped into wooden ones.
The pressure in a pressure cooker isn't anywhere near what the Bakelizer would have. I mean, it's a thick cast iron egg, that alone is indicative of how much we're talking.
I was just thinking an instant pot might work. I think an important question is whether the pressure needs to be kept up as it cools, or if once it polymerizes the pressure is less important.
i don't think that would work ; the water being released in the bakelite prepolymer does not have the brine inside of it .....aside from that im not sure the brine would not affect the reactants .... and then theres buoyancy problems with the stuff you are trying to polymerize. .............. another huge problem is the corrosion very hot brine would do to a pressure cooker (and possibly embrittlement due to gas and other stuff working its way into the metal's boundaries) ...... and it just generally sounds like a bad idea; pressure cookers cant handle THAT high off pressures; if you are not carefull you have a bomb on your hands; brine might have a higher boiling point but that doesn't mean it wont build up pressure at elevated temperatures.
I’m living in the city where bakeliet was developed. Gent, Belgium. We had a lot of that stuff in electricity casing. Now that has all evolved to grey PVC. The name comes from Baeckeland
I don't suppose you could you could do something related to textile dye synthesis? There are a lot of colourful compounds but few make good use as dyes.
Well, this seems very similar to modern 2 part epoxies, only with a more violent exothermic reaction. But even modern epoxies can build up enough heat to melt a plastic mold, if you pour it too “deep”, and its not specifically designed for “deep pours”. You can identify real old Bakelite, by rubbing it vigorously, with your thumb, and then smelling it. If its real Bakelite, that mechanical action it will still produce the faint odor of formaldehyde. So much of what you do, just increases my understanding, of the magic of the chemical processes happening around us every day, that we completely take for granted. Thank you, for that. 🙏
That is so fascinating - to see a solid object/mass form from a mixture of various liquid chemicals... I know this isn't the only reaction that does something like that, but the entire concept is captivating. Chemistry is like the closest thing to real, actual magic in my opinion. I want to learn chemistry. I'm thinking about going back to college for pharmacology and either dual majoring or minoring in chemistry (since my IT degree has not worked out at all). But even if I don't go back to college, I still want to learn chemistry on my own. Are there any good authoritative/concise/in-depth/free resources for learning chemistry? Maybe that could help if I did decide to take chemistry classes too.
It's like everything he says is in another language when he starts discussing molecular structure and chemical reactions. But somehow I'm still addicted.
"I tried several times to get it to explode" got to love these chemists.
It's like they're all mad
And I won't have it any other way
Only if your watching from afar
Back when the government was more "we need to be proactive with deterance measures in case of war"
And less "this lab can't use carcinogenic chemicals"
TNT was originally used as just a yellow die, took a while to figure out it goes boom I guess.
lol "these chemists"
"If someone gave this to me and said nothing, I would probably try to eat it"
-Nile 2017
Ah yes, the forbidden cookies.
Same
it went from a maple leaf to a heart in the thumbnail
Ah, the forbidden gummy
Edible chem - stage B bakelite
When I was in junior high I was really into chemistry and there was a chemistry book in the school library that had all sorts of dangerous experiments (mercury, nitric acid, fireworks) including making bakelite. This was back in the 70's.
gmc9753 styropyro got a vid about a book like this
My sister gave me her old chemistry textbook from the 80s that had a pyrochemistry section, including how to make mononitriletoluene with a warning that if you cook it too much you'll get TNT...
My dad always liked to say that he survived something called "70s-poisoning" hahaha
Got to love the pre 9/11 era.
Nitrogen triiodide and every energetic reaction I could find in the High School chem lab. That was an amazing place to play.
The knowledge that there's a machine out there called "the Bakelizer" that looks like a steampunk bomb but just makes cool plastic brings a smile to my face
Bakelite pool balls are pure auditory perfection.
@Lee SmarterEveryDay Get smarter tomorrow by learning the difference between your and you're.
Even better, victorian celuloid pool balls. They caused loud crack when they hit another, guys were pulling guns on it, lol
@@totenkopfan6296 nice
@Fen Vulpeus That's what caused all the fun stuff
Fen Vulpeus i remember i learned a lady burned to death because of that
When I took industrial hygiene, my teacher showed us a formaldehyde detector and told us that he'd demonstrate it but that there's not likely any formaldehyde nearby us. I raised my hand and asked if there was any bakelite nearby, because that should have formaldehyde. He was surprised that I knew about that and said that he had a battery case or something made of black bakelite. So we set the monitor next to it and it worked! It detected a little bit of formaldehyde!
Nail polish would work too
Fema trailers have plenty
Nerd
@@robertsaget6918 get a life
@@lostpony4885 forma trailers 😂
wait... I have a bakalizer like thing!
Do it.
Cody'sLab As soon as I saw this I thought of you
LOL… I was just about to tell him that Cody has some crazy pressure vessel so he could send you some of the resin.
hmm
so you're going to work together? =)
I'd love to see that on your channel! :D If you want it to be less toxic you could use resorcinol instead of phenol.
"With great difficulty, I jammed it back into the mold"
_UPSIDE DOWN_
OH MY GOD IT IS UPSIDE DOWN
NileRed: is chemist
Also NileRed: jams bakelite back into mold in the **wrong orientation**
:P I don't think he did
@@kaylynhandley1920 he totally did
@@trashcompactorYT oh ok
That's what my dad said when I came out :D
“I hit it with a hammer for fun”
I spaced out for a bit and had a good chuckle when he said "I turned off the toaster." Never thought a toaster would be used in science lol
If you wish to revisit this, you should be able to build a workable bakerlizer(sp) using a steel 'pressure pot' of the type used for paint sprayers. Mine has a working pressure of 80 psi(And according to steam tables, should be good at keeping water from boiling below about 160c) and has a silicon seal that should hold well with the heat.
Do be careful do to the whole 'steam explosion' risk if you wish to go down this path. :)
+Electra Flarefire interesting. I'll think about it
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I wonder if an old autoclave would work.
@@paulskalla6845 ~40psia will get you the 270°F. You're looking for a temp range between ~266°F and 392°F. ~200psia on the high side... So a 30psi pressure vessel could barely do the job at sea level if you don't get runaway. Pretty sure a standard autoclave is a low pressure unit and taps out at 15psig. A decent temperature control set up set to the low end could prevent runaway... So an 80psi vessel could probably safely do the job. But a higher quality high pressure vessel would be best. But I'm pretty sure making aerogel would be a more useful and easier endeavor unless you're making something designed to sustain impact.
A pressure vessel, or at a pinch, a repurposed pressure cooker shouldn't be too hard to set up for the resol production, but I guess it will still "froth up" when the pressure is released? Maybe less than with steam bubbles though. 😁
I'm sure something small-scale wouldn't be too difficult, and it would be great to see and actual Bakelite object being moulded an baked. ♥️
Even though it's an early form of synthetic material, Bakelite has a certain tactile and visual quality that modern plastics just haven't got. I remember that it had a strong smell though.
Sort of like formaldehyde?
It is a dense plastic that very few modern plastics can get near to.
Only if you had it exposed to either light or water/moisture. In pristine condition, it's almost odorless (mostly because it's so dense, so there's less sites for stuff to escape).
That aside, it really is a beautiful plastic. It has a nobility run of the mill plastic does not. Not even resins can emulate its cool feel. And it lasts (when maintained properly) for ever.
Despite its shortcomings, it would be a much better plastic for certain objects so they don't break as fast.
Smells like naim....
man i just love how it looks so much, and I like that as a plastic, it was very purpose-built. Everything made with bakelite wasn't made to be disposable.
Cody will surely enjoy using his pressure chamber as a bakelizer !
That would be better than seeing a video for the sake of a video.
How many times to we need to see marshmallows :\
Well, as any good test, it's one that's performed everytime ! But still.
Its not a good test. Nothing can be learnt from putting them in a vacuum. Its the job of gauges to judge various states of low pressure, Not marshmallows.
Bakelite was also used to make Kalashnikov style magazines due to it being cheaper than steel and more durable than aluminum.
This is the only use I've known for bakelite unill now lol
Similar chemicals, but it was a fiberglass reinforced version called AG-4S. Tough as hell from what I've heard.
Hell, a guy made entire gun frames out of the stuff. German krobov? I think thsts his name.
@@neonman54 As much as I love bakelite, I would not trust a rifle made out of lmao. Those weird prototype bullpups the Soviets made look jank as hell
Bakelite AK stuff has an aesthetic that is so satisfying 👌👌👌
Thank you. I can see that you spent a lot of time researching, doing the chemical experiments, taping, editing, ...
Your efforts are _much_ appreciated.
And Good ol AK pattern magazines ;)
i have tons of them they are great
Yeah but for 7.62 aluminum/steel are kinda better than the bakelite/ ag-s4 mags
I was a kid when they were affordable, now they are 80 dollars. Makes me wanna cry :(
@@googlepissoff5776 you've seen em for $80?! lol
@@david-lb7ij Yes lmao, shits crazy. Still pissed about the Ukraine shit no more imports of anything cool.
@NileRed I find myself 50 yo and I still remember many things that were made of bakelite. In my grandmother's house, the telephone, the wall sockets (outlets) and parts of her toaster were made from bakelite, for instance. All things made of bakelite I remember were coloured black. They all shared one aspect, they would break easily.. the bakelite used for them was hard, but brittle - it would not live up to any kind of impact. I always thought that that was just what bakelite was like, that it was an unavoidable sort of imperfection of the kind of material. Watching your video however makes me wonder if that brittleness actually rather was due to the amount of fillers that the producents of all those things put into it. I can imagine that using fillers would make it much cheaper to produce things that were made of bakelite. And, if I understand correctly, it was already put under pressure to cure it in the forms used - which also would have made it very easy to fill them up with a powdery filler first, then flood make that filler and make it absorb a much lower amount of the actual bakelite whilst still in liquid form. And when it was cured its surfaces would be as smooth as the insides of the forms that were used were, and you totally wouldn't be able to tell by sight that any fillers were in it anyway. .. until you actuality broke the household item that it most likely was what they made, and even then you'd only be able to tell be cause of the grainy inner structure that now got exposed. You think that is how it was, or were other effects causing these properties? And thank you by the way!
You very likely had the cheap bakelite that came after the patents expired, which were made to capitalize on it. It's not the main reason, but it's one of the major reasons why bakelite is pretty much extinct today. Once the patents expired, nobody did things right and just wanted in on the action, subpar products caught the market and so a lot of the stuff is cheap and brittle. Properly made bakelite is very strong, it behaves less like a plastic and more like a composite. I have original bakelite bars, from the original manufacturer pre 1930's and they're very durable. Some chips exist, wherever they were dinged and dropped over the years, but no shattering or cracking. And we're talking about thin stuff, used to promote the product, not actual use items that would've had various strength inducing features like fillets or ribs.
@@aserta I think another thing is also just the quality of molds and products. Vintage Italian and French coffee stuff is chock full of black bakelite handles and knobs, most of which have held up much better than most plastics even from the 90's to 2000's on game consoles or kitchen appliances.
Soviets used the bakelite far into 1980's that was quite robust and withstanded time quite well also, I remember seeing switches and outlets from 1960's still intact in 2000's, some even outside in the sun._
It was probably made with novolacs method
I used bakelite in school while hand making electronic boards, and that stuff was hard and robust, you'd have to hit it with a hammer to make it break, and it just like 4mm. I don't remember having to struggle a lot when sawing it, I think it was similar to cutting softwood.
And I do remember the insides being whitish and grainy, so I guess it was a novolac
I just bought some cheap electrical switches made of soft plastic that melted when I tried soldering the metal connection tabs. Since the switch can fail, I will not use them except for low current and voltage applications, far less than the switches "rating." The old bakelite switches are really durable. Always wondered how it was made.
Brilliant, I have an old Bakelite radio. The history and chemistry of plastic is fascinating.
Thats exactly what im here for! The WW2 german Volksempfanger radio cases are bakelite, id like to reproduce them in printed plastic with Bluetooth speakers inside for ww2 reenactments, i bet everyone in the reenactor community would buy them.
"Release Bakelite into all passages and pipes up to Section 803!"
I know I'm not the only one...
Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only person that thought of that.
Finally a neon genesis evangelion reference
yep
based and EVApilled
Ha was looking for this
Bakelite has such a lovely color
Yes, considering you can give it the colour you want
Fun fact: Bake lite was used as furniture for many firearms back in the day, especially popular in the Soviet union. It proved much more tough, wear resistant and weatherproof than wood. however, although very hard, when bakelite breaks it fractures in extremely jagged an sharp edges. It was removed from firearm furniture in no small part due to soldiers getting impaled by their weapons if they fell on them the wrong way...
I dont really believe the latter, other plastics became available
Novolacs sounds like a drug
Ask your doctor if Novolax is right for you.
Blood Bath and Beyond - Pop Goes Metal Covers yes it sounds like a laxative
Novolax sounds like a laxative for your nose.... So a decongestant ? Lol.... Now that's a weird thought, laxatives are just a decongestant for you colon
'Clean your bathroom with a brand-new novalacs!'
Reminds me of nova lox.
With a light schmear and some capers.
Daniel Nova lox - bursting with flavor!
I love how I was thinking "hmmmm I'd like to see how bakelite is made. Oh! I bet Nile has probably made some before" and sure enought here we are!
Use a pressure pot. I’m a dental technician and when I do acrylic repairs(Methylmethacrylate monomer/polymer) monomer liquid and powder. When I do a dental repair I put it in a pressure pot. You can control the temperature and of course pressure. By putting my repairs in the pressure pot it would heat it up to cure it but also the pressure would make sure no porosity(bubbles) in the acrylic. There are some really nice and fancy ones but the one we use it’s pretty cheap I mean you can find them for like $50-$100 probably at Walmart or something. I don’t know if that’s the same thing as that cool device that guy made but it just heated it up and then pressurized it sounds to me like a pressure pot that has a adjustable temperature gauge that I use at work for the exact purpose of curing acrylic and avoiding porosity. Maybe check it out. Love your videos!!!!! Long time fan
I have a very old music box modeled to look like a piano; it is brass with a bakelite cover. It is absolutely stunning!
While bakelite has been phased out of popular use, its usefulness in containing rogue Eva Units cannot be understated.
Basically the only reason I know what bakelite is is from watching Evangelion back when I was in high school, so that’s the first thing I think of whenever I see it haha.
@@ThePhobophilethe anime? 😂😂 I’ve always told my mom that anime teaches us things 😂
As someone who's just started working in a plastic factory this is very informative and interesting
your stuff helps in Chem classes, thanks dude
but do you have any tips for doing titrations?
Swampy Mudkipz when you see the first flash of color that goes away once you swirl it, you need to do it very very very slowly. Slow and steady wins the race with titration.
1234lavaking how about the calculations?
Swampy Mudkipz okay, so you have to figure out how many mL of titrant you used, the titrant is the one that you know the concentration is. Convert the mL to liters and multiply the molarity of the titrant by that amount in L. That's the amount of moles of titrant you used. Then do your molar conversion based on the coefficients in the equation, and that is the moles that were reacted in the solution of unknown concentration. So divide that by the volume of unknown, in liters, and boom! The concentration of your unknown solution.
c'mon man the calculations are easy. Just google how to do them and practice.
"joolery"... interesting video and excellent voice over quality. Your mastery of chemistry is very respectable.
It's been a while since I've had the chance to sit down and watch your videos, but I'm really happy to see you doing polymers! Especially something like Bakelite, which isn't covered nearly enough.
Dude,the heart shaped item was perfect, duel colour in one process! As the Bee Gees once said "You should be dancing, YEA!"
Of course cheap jewellery was not your mission statement, but still....As always, stellar content. Love from the UK.
I want to try and make the heart one! It was awesome!!!
NileRed - if you want to turn your toaster oven in to a temperature controlled environment then you may want to look in to getting toaster over temperature controllers for surface mount printed circuit board production. I've used one for PCB prototyping for a few years and they work surprisingly well. The toaster modification is a temperature controller that keeps the oven within a defined range instead of an arbitrary numeric "heat" level that you can calibrate quite accurately. They're not hard to make if you don't want to buy one either, plenty of DIY projects around.
Bakelite still used in some applications that require high heat resistance and good electrical insulation properties such as vehicle ignition components and electrical outlets.
And ashtrays.
i never liked chemistry before watching your videos man, thanks
I did a full report on the history of polymers. Very interesting how much stuff and how many jobs it fit into and replaced, like horners, people who worked with heating animal horn or crushing it into pulps to form complex items like combs, piano keys, etc, was eventually taken over by people who worked with natural rubbers and bakelite.
Thanks,this was very interesting! You must have spent a lot of time on making this video. I liked the in depth presentation of the mechanisms. Keep up the good work!
+Astral Chemistry it took me a long time. Thanks!
Bakelite was used a lot for weapons right after they replaced wood furniture and before polymers took over, the FAL and G3 among some examples used it
Don't forget AKs, classic AK-74s are defined by bakelite
@@testname4464No furniture was made for AK’s out of bakelite besides some pistol grips. It was mostly just magazines.
The MP40
@@skibur848My Bulgarian AK came with some bakelite furniture
🎵 goin nuts, hearin voices all night, grab that ak and im loadin up a bakelite 🎵
Bakelite just makes me think of my grandmas ☺️ They had all sorts from combs to jewelry to toilet roll holders ! Everything was bakelite!! I hated it, it was always so ugly, but at the same time I miss it because I miss my gmas
When Seele try to invade HQ and reach terminal dogma
I clicked on this video because of that scene
I was searching for that comment
virgin third impact vs chad nilered
Oh shit, that was Bakelite!?
I love thinking about how much this is gonna confuse folks who don't know what it's referencing
Could've tried putting it in a pressure cooker.
I was thinking about it, didnt end up trying it.
Me, watching these videos, after failing chemistry: I like your words. Magic man.
Sweet! There was a lot of bakelite around when I was young, now of course not so much. I've known what it is and how it was made for many years, but have never had a chance until now to actually see the process performed.
We still produce bakelite on work to this day. One of my favourite products to work on!
Nice video! I've done this reaction with resorcinol back then, which is less toxic than phenol, but it also puffed up.
Whenever I want to sleep i watch one of your videos, I don't know what it is but your voice just calms me
bakelite was used for ak rifle magazines for a long time, properly tough stuff even today.
Mostly for 5.45 mags and like the new 100-series mags
Nice video. I got many bakelite magazines over the years for my AK 47 and 74. They might be the best polymer magazines on the planet.
Bakelite is one of those products that isn't made as much anymore but is actually higher quality than what is currently being used instead. Since it isn't as soluable it holds up more than other polymers. Actually, a lot of people test to see if their thrift store jewelry finds are bakelite by swiping some acetone on the surface. Modern plastics will melt while bakelite is uneffected. Since "vintage" bakelite is worth a bit of money as lots of people collect it, this is worth testing for say an eBay/etsy seller. I find this concept fascinating since putting plastic in acetone is one of my favorite things to do... I make jewelry and sometimes redesign cheap costume jewelry. The easiest way to get cheap plastic rhinestones/cabochons out of a metal bezel is just to drop it in a bowl of acetone and it's just really cool to watch or to repeatedly poke the melting plastic with a toothpick.
Isn’t bakelite the type of plastic they used for plastic parts on early electric guitars? That stuff “gassed off” and became brittle after a while right? (I might be confusing it with a different type of plastic)
That's bc bakelite is a thermosetting polymer and once it's set, it can't be reheated for recycling, unlike modern day plastics
If I'm remembering what I was told, this stuff was also used in combination with cloth wiring. The house my friends and I just moved out of had cloth wiring throughout, so I learned a bit about it while I was there. The bakelite would crumble away, and of course cloth rots as well, leaving live wires exposed to each other.
Some of those wires are aluminum too, aluminum can burn...
Wow, never realized just how complex a molecular structure Bakelite is.
I was fascinated by the way he described the molecular reactions. When he explains things like that it really helps me understand what is happening and why. ❤
the formal name for Bakelite, polyoxybenzylmethyleneglycolanhydride, gives a better idea of the complexity of the molecule 😅
I was making that resin into the early 2000's. The plant didn't have fancy things like a control room 😆. You controlled the heat , which was steam through 6 inch coils inside a big kettle with a 2 inch ball valve. Then when you needed cooling you shut the steam off and switch to cooling water to control the exothermic reaction.
40,000 lbs of phenol and around 10,000 lbs of formaldehyde, i can't remember what the catalyst was. It was an interesting job 🤣🤣🤣. Exciting also, especially when someone mixed the wrong things together or lost control of the exothermic reaction of a batch.
I remember when I was a kid, the bicycles had handles of this and 2 of my cousins would set those handle on fire on parked bikes. Bad boys.
@Bean Oof Bakelite is flammable and children are naughty
bakelite moulding reminds me so much of the old way curing bakes of ceramics , there defiantly an guild art to two methods
DANG! TWO VIDEOS IN ONE DAY? WHAT IS THIS! :) :)
LimitlessDeadline But also no videos for two weeks...
I'm repairing vintage fountain pens and inkwells, which occasionally include bakelite - this is great!
They cover Eva unit 01 with this In end of evangelion I think
Great video. It made me realise how long it has been since I studied organic chemistry, and how much I miss it.
Bakelite is still used to this day. For ex my desktop CNC has bakelite in its frame. It is tremendously rigid and good for such applications that need precision mechanics.
It's also the only substance capable of safely containing an angel in stasis... Yes, I'm that old!
i like how nile red tried thrice to have a violent reaction nobody would want
I have always wanted to make bakelite but I have never found a very good synthesis of it. thank you so much :)
Did anyone else have like... Yugioh PTSD when he said Polymerisation?
Got it boi
all I had was elemental hero flame wingman flashing through my mind
LOL, aint gonna lie i thought of dabs when you were getting the resin out the beaker lol, great video
During a Properties of Materials course I took, we pressed steel samples into bakelite pucks with one face showing. with the larger size of the puck we spent a long time polishing the steel until the grains of the steel were visible under a microscope
The best looking plastic of all.
12:52 Is the center... NILE RED?
Bruh
No it’s Niler Ed
i like how the yellower one looked like a heart and had red in the middle, it's almost poetic lol
You and Cody's lab should try this in his pressure vessel.
Ive messaged him!
Sweet. I was watching him earlier, and he mentioned your channel. You have another new subscriber sir. Good luck!
Nilered: the chill mad scientist.
As a collector of vintage bakelite, I found this extremely fascinating! Not that all of your videos aren't, of course.
I feel like it would be fun to see this revisited in Nile's new lab, to see if he could give it the full bakelizer-style treatment.
I would love to see you making celluloid from nitrocellulose and camphor!
these videos are so damn perfect to fall asleep to thanks you NR
Gun Nuts Mind: Bakelite => Ak Mags...
So what? AKs are cool.
@@taylordavison6849 think he means making AK mags out of it
YES!!!!
That was my first thought when I seen the video although let’s not forget that AKs are pretty much all prohibited with the exception of two specific models here in Canada.... at least we have norinco products including the t97 bullpup and the ak skis hibird type 81
I remember in high school, one of the candidates for the mock election ran on a platform of giving every American two guns on their 18th birthday. The punishment for a convicted felony was losing a gun, and you were convicted of one and had no more guns, you could face jail time.
He won by a landslide. Although, that was probably because he also wanted to legalize weed.
I got excited when I saw this because this is what the Kin in the Vorrh Trilogy are made of.
"My phenol is a little bit dirty" giggity.
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I'd love to see you do a follow up on this series with your current lab. You could probably make some cool stuff!
nile, you should know not to eat candy from strangers
I wish they'd bring bakelite back. Everything made from it was tough! You could practically use it like a hammer!
*me knowing what mole means..... "im something of a scientist myself"
holy crap. I was looking for videos on its synthesis and saw YOU from 7 frickin yeas ago made a video on it. nice.
can't you use a pressure cooker to keep water from boiling?
the quicker cooking is obtained by heating water higher than 100°C
so the pressure cooker présent water from boiling
I love the Nile red and blue videos, just wish the other parts for the multi-part videos were linked in the description.
1 Canada leaf 2 melted grape jellyrancher 3 offbrand Valentines candy
Fun gun fact, the MP40, a German WWII submachine gun, used bakelite grips. Though, the grips were disliked as they were uncomfortable. This led to the grips being swapped into wooden ones.
So were the grips on Walther and Luger pistols
bakalizer, aka Pressure cooker
If we lived in a world where things weren’t thrown out so much we could still use Bakelite. This stuff rules!
Nigel’s voice sounds much younger.
8:15 "just for fun, I decided to hit the piece with a hammer"
The tradition continues to this day.
Would a pressure cooker work, or is there something different going on in a bakalizer?
It probably would, because you just have to increase the pressure so the water doesn't boil, ain't nothing fancy.
The pressure in a pressure cooker isn't anywhere near what the Bakelizer would have. I mean, it's a thick cast iron egg, that alone is indicative of how much we're talking.
I was just thinking an instant pot might work. I think an important question is whether the pressure needs to be kept up as it cools, or if once it polymerizes the pressure is less important.
Love the Art Deco bakelite stuff 😎
No Bakelizer -> Use pressure cooker filled with brine?
MainsOnTheOhmsRange NOOO
i don't think that would work ; the water being released in the bakelite prepolymer does not have the brine inside of it .....aside from that im not sure the brine would not affect the reactants .... and then theres buoyancy problems with the stuff you are trying to polymerize. .............. another huge problem is the corrosion very hot brine would do to a pressure cooker (and possibly embrittlement due to gas and other stuff working its way into the metal's boundaries) ...... and it just generally sounds like a bad idea; pressure cookers cant handle THAT high off pressures; if you are not carefull you have a bomb on your hands; brine might have a higher boiling point but that doesn't mean it wont build up pressure at elevated temperatures.
How about dangling or supporting it on a platform within the pressure cooker?
But hang on, isn't the bakelizer pretty much a just pressure cooker? High pressure steam vessel providing heating over 100C?
Why brine?
I’m living in the city where bakeliet was developed. Gent, Belgium. We had a lot of that stuff in electricity casing. Now that has all evolved to grey PVC. The name comes from Baeckeland
I don't suppose you could you could do something related to textile dye synthesis? There are a lot of colourful compounds but few make good use as dyes.
Well, this seems very similar to modern 2 part epoxies, only with a more violent exothermic reaction. But even modern epoxies can build up enough heat to melt a plastic mold, if you pour it too “deep”, and its not specifically designed for “deep pours”.
You can identify real old Bakelite, by rubbing it vigorously, with your thumb, and then smelling it. If its real Bakelite, that mechanical action it will still produce the faint odor of formaldehyde.
So much of what you do, just increases my understanding, of the magic of the chemical processes happening around us every day, that we completely take for granted.
Thank you, for that. 🙏
That is so fascinating - to see a solid object/mass form from a mixture of various liquid chemicals... I know this isn't the only reaction that does something like that, but the entire concept is captivating. Chemistry is like the closest thing to real, actual magic in my opinion. I want to learn chemistry. I'm thinking about going back to college for pharmacology and either dual majoring or minoring in chemistry (since my IT degree has not worked out at all). But even if I don't go back to college, I still want to learn chemistry on my own. Are there any good authoritative/concise/in-depth/free resources for learning chemistry? Maybe that could help if I did decide to take chemistry classes too.
It's like everything he says is in another language when he starts discussing molecular structure and chemical reactions. But somehow I'm still addicted.
14:30 Do you have a pressure cooker? That might be helpful.
13:41 Note to self: Nile will eagerly take gummies from weird, silent strangers.