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When I first saw the picture of the bike I almost immediately thought the bike is ugly. I didn't even want to look no further into the bike. That first impression or that first glance should attract you right then and there in my opinion. I've never owned a high displacement bike or expensive bike for that matter which it is my dream one day but I really do have love for motorcycles in general. Thanks for taking the time to break it all down for us..💯💯💯 ✌🏾
I think it looks cool. Same thing people said about the s1kRR when they did simetrical headlights. People hated it but now they love it. Ducati did a good job here
Somthing about the single sided swing arm was what made a ducati a ducati. now that it no longer has that and the entire new body design. it doesnt really look like a ducati anymore
A V-Twin was a thousand times more representative of the Ducati brand than a single sided swingarm has EVER been, of you're ok with the transition to a V4 i have no clue how you could have a problem with a conventional swingarm.
its panigale, in the end ducati want to win again in wsbk and all other racing series, you can get ur single sided in swingarm in streetfighter never liked the single sided tbh it's hard to adjust, worst handling and only looks good on the right side whats the point 🤣
Ducati don't have single side shit on motogp... All matters is performance.. Happy they ditch that worthless single side shit arm... Bring all motogp tech to v4s and i will be happy if they continue to dominate in wsbk.... Don't care what people says bcz they're not engineer...
Meh. Not a huge fan of the new design. It's just OK - nothing amazing, but the single-sided swingarm is iconic Ducati superbike. 99% of these bikes are ridden on the street so I would have kept the single-sided swingarm for the V4/V4S and done the double-sided swingarm for the V4R which is really meant to be ridden on the track. I have a '22 V4 Panigale and I'm feeling pretty good about my bike today! 😎
99% of these bikes are not ridden on the street a majority are on the track, The single-sided swingarm is not iconic to Ducati, Ducati sells more bikes with double sided swingarms than single. If you just want a bike to get people that don't know anything about motorcycles to look at you then get an MV Agusta.
@@Waldo1122 Um you might want to talk to your local Ducati dealer. When I was looking at getting a V4 the dealer told me almost all his V4/V4S customers ride their bikes on the street. He said only his V4R customers were about 50%/50% street/track. This came from the largest Ducati dealer in Southern California.
@@RichardIII_YT Your first mistake was listening to anything a stealership salesman tells you. These are the same people that wouldn't be able to tell you whether the bike has a catalytic converter on it or not unless they talk to service.
I agree with practically everything you said. My thoughts exactly. I owned 2018 V4S, did 30 track days in COTA. All that being said, for me it is still a contender, but damn prices are getting really high , to have a proper build for track now is becoming well north of 50K and thats tough for many including myself. Currently on M1000XR, but want to get back into track riding. I gotta see the new KTM 990 RCR and weigh in against track only options like Kramer GP2 890RR. I understand why they made all the decisions as their primary goal is to get back on top in wsbk.. we’ll see
As far as double sided swingarms go, it’s a really cool looking setup. I do prefer the single sided counterpart - if nothing else, it’s easier to adjust the chain and remove the wheel. The winglets are NOT integrated, just body colored. They’re clearly separate pieces that are plugged into the fairing.
You nailed the assessment. Love your candid pov, as most are just liking it for no reason other than it's a Ducati with no why or what. I happen to agree with everything you said. Nice video.
For me, this model is uglier, it is not as aggressive as the old model, Ducati has failed here, it had a great opportunity to do something more aggressive and futuristic and what they have done is a ducati super sport from 2016 with some aesthetic touches.
@@uxjordan And in the 40 minute presentation they never talked about trying to design the bike to look pretty, they talked about designing the bike to perform as best as it possibly can. All the squids like you can go buy an MV Agusta and continue enjoying straight line racing and single sided swingarms.
@@JaretCampisi You did much better than I could have. There are definitely some things I like, but also some nasty shit, like that “Lower Compartment” belly pan option to cover the “racing silencers.” If I see someone with that on their bike, I’m laughing at them. LOL
The one thing I disliked about the new generation s1000rr is I feel the bike looks really basic, lost its character and now I feel the same about this new Panigale. I just sold my 21 panigale V4 last Sunday, I should of keep it 🥲 I’m sure the looks will grow on me, but just think it was a sad direction they took for looks. It’s lost that aggressive style and look at the front especially the lights
it's a perfect progression, they are doing a great job! the top riders are confirming that it's a second faster on average when compared to the previous bike!
I do think thats great BUT I just wish they could have achieved that performance while making the bike look beautiful and keeping that single sided swing arm as well :)
Honestly the single swing arm is a must on Ducati I love the company but Jaret you did as best as you can to not hurt the company, but they are making mistakes in this new 2025 V4 I don’t want to hurt the company. I’m proud owner single sided swing arm Ducati and I look forward to just looking at that craftsmanship to me the best looking bikes.
Lol I can tell you have a soft spot for Ducati your a true Ducatisti even your Mrs n dad I watch all your videos here from Australia I’m Portuguese but lived my life down under. love all your builds you did the best you could with what you had Jaret
Ps I’m a proud owner of a Ducati 899 Panigale first thing I did after buying her making her a single swing arm , sourced a 1199 swing arm from US wheels from Italia not cheap but she is my build my baby 1199 best of both worlds never selling her I love Ducati but still got a lot to finish but she is on the road bust little stuff doing rb racing Sydney Australia doing all my work thanks to Jaret you show me what’s possible keep doing your videos n I’m proud to see how well you have done for yourself but your humble n honest I wish you Kristina n Daddo all the best .And your mate from motomillion keep it going god bless always thanks 🙏🏼 for your review on a hard review .Thanks again for reply and being down to earth
Everything you don't like about it, Jaret, I like😂 and I've never been a Ducati fan. If you ever do a custom build in only the way you do it❤ Id support it. Cant wait for what's in store with your builds bro!
3:25 I did a customization on the website, the prices jumps even further when you start adding body add on like carbon and/or technology additions. I went overboard but was able to get to over $60K. I can get a bmw S1K with the M & premium package and pay $20K less give or take a few grand. Everything else I can overlook but the swing arm will most certainly be a dealbreaker. We’ll see
Jaret understand your opinion. On this bike. I seen this bike today. I reckon when you see it in the flesh. You probably will change your mind. Ducati have always build great looking bikes. I would definitely consider buying this bike. Absolutely love it.
As the owner of many Ducati’s including previously 916. Pani 1299s, V4s, currently a 996 & A 2020 V4 I couldn't agree more with your comments on this 2025 version. I for one won't be trading in my V4 for the new one.
Thanks for sharing. I'm not a fan. I have an SP2 and so glad I bought it. I don't like the built in red winglets. I don't like the dual swingarm. I agree with you that it looks too busy on the side fairings with all those lines. It doesn't look flush with the black underbelly when you install the wheel barrel Akra. I feel it looks like another Japanese liter bike. Give it 1-2 years and then go back to the original formula. It it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Front looks like the Typhoon fighter jet and the V4 engine finally gets a new chassis worthy of the marque, good use of symmetry and A-symmetry, looks like Lamborghini design influence! Beautiful forged/cast parts, but should have given a new name. Should pair well with new Huracan replacement.
Woah 😳 from some angles it looks odd, reminds me of me favorite Ducati ever made the Desmosedici RR, I wonder if that's where they got the inspiration from
Full disclosure: I've never owned a Ducati and I'm not their target market for this bike. Personally, I'm okay with a conventional swingarm; however, I think they could have designed it a little better. I can't stand winglets on any bike (Euro or Japanese). My only other gripe is I think there's a little too much space in the area between the front wheel and the main body of the bike. The Panigale V2 (the 899?) originally came with a conventional swingarm before reverting to a single-sided swingarm like the 848. Maybe Ducati will do the same to the V4 should sales fall below expectations.
Tbh at first sight I didn’t like it but it’s growing on me more I think the 25 would look a lot better modded out (especially the under tail) and i know you’re not a huge fan but I personally would absolutely love to see a build series on the new v4. Still a little sad it doesn’t have a single sided swing arm but I understand the choice from a performance prospective
Mr. Campisi, I couldn’t agree with you more… all of your statements, pointers and observations about this bike are valid. As a motorcycle collector of 37 years, I added a 2024 Panigale V4S to my collection just 2 weeks ago. I believe the 2024 model could’ve served Ducati well another 2-4 years with minor upgrades. Then again, consumers’ views, collectors’ views, hardcore riders’ views and manufacturer’s views do always differ. Regardless of opinions, your points are well made, great presentation indeed! Thank you for creating and sharing this video with us. Nish 🇦🇲🇱🇧🇺🇸
The 2024 Panigale V4 looked like a sinister shark. Ready to attack the track and eat the competition. This 2025 version looks like an ordinary red motorcycle.
When I first saw it i hated it ..but after digging into it over the last 24 hours..I'm sold !! Im loving it !. Also you see the US power numbers vs Europe?!!! we are down like 8-9hp and almost 1000 rpm lower...clearly ours will be restricted in stock form so a tune is a must. All this electronic stuff is too much for me . Shit, on my 18' Speciale I have everything turned off minus the quickshifter lol. I think I will toss on in the garage once the R is out next year...that or KTM 1390r
The truth is that 90 to 95% of V4 owners for the last generation can't even ride that model to it's max limit, nor are they capable to notice swing arm and chasis flex at such high speeds and discern the difference between that and what their suspension is doing, they lack the professional training and experience nessecary to understand these dynamics and handle it. Most V4 owners purchase this bike for the looks because nothing is designed more beautifully, performance matters, but we aren't chasing lap times or competing. It may have been wiser to make two versions, one with a single sided swing arm for the street riders and another produced in limited quantities with the double sided swing arms for the professional track riders, those who are capable and rich enough to track them. I'm not sure how this idea was overlooked by head office. I waited for this model to purchase it, but now I'll keep my old Ducati until another single sided swing arm model comes out that looks beautiful. Perfect refresh for rich track riders, race teams and professionals who compete, but not smart from an overal sales perspective though. They will sell less of them than ever before. It's a huge miss for their actual demographic, overall for the rest of the design it's also not nearly as nice as last years.
Ducati told their dealers to stop asking them to add a fuel gauge. They said “when customers ask for a fuel gauge - tell them to buy a Multistrada too.” True story told to me from the largest Ducati dealer in Southern California. 😂
I like to see them making an effort to cool the bike down; since I live in an area that routinely see's triple digits from June through September. I already lost one nut to testicular cancer so I can't afford to continue frying old faithful. I won't make any judgments otherwise until I actually see the bike in person and ride it.
Man, def agree. Everything about this 2025 is advanced out the box, but the looks. Perhaps Ducati is looking to reach out to more mainstream riders with the latest, greatest technology while satisfying their race requirements. Interested to see how their sales respond. Oh yeah, dig your navigation skills on the website too...LOLOL
At the end of the day Ducati is in the business of selling motorcycles so if people don't buy it, it really doesn't matter how "good" the bike is, it would still be a failure
The gap between the front tire and the front end of the bike is bigger than goofy’s front teeth gap 😂😂 why did they do this. It can’t be the same design team.
Ducati shit their pants with how dominating bmw is in 2024. Honestly it is a very good move to make the bike lighter to overcompensate bautista's ballast weight so it stays like before. We'll see how this bike compete with toprak's bmw.
Well, at least they didn't use Royal Blue &/or yellow with this bike, but maybe matte Carbon with Italian flag colors highlights brushed Aluminum tank and swing arm.
It looks like the electric bike. No bueno man. All they had to do was do all the upgrades, headlights and leave the side fairings, single sided swing arm. It looks like a Honda. 100% say they’ll change it in 2 years
I don't mind the swingarm, and the electronics package is next level. The V4R version of this will be very interesting. Overall I'm kind of neutral as to the looks. It looks like an AI mashup of all of their bikes.
"It is a complete redesign but obviously it is using the same engine..." Soooo... it is not a complete redesign. I love the single sided swingarm that they stole from Honda in '94 but I think this new swing is amazing too. Look at it ! You can see the whole tire almost.
It’s clearly about WSBK performance. It’s not as cool looking as the 2024 but initial opinions usually mellow with time. I think with the right modes from the catalogue it looks pretty slick. Different coloured winglets would probably make it look better. It’s a Ducati for the racer or track rides rather than the weekend warrior poser lots of people like these on the track.
Ducati is in the business of selling motorcycles...if people don't like how they look and they don't sell then the bike is a failure regardless of how "good" the bike is. At the end of the day selling bikes is what funds their race team...
the racing compartment probably forms a belly pan to catch fluids and allows racers a black background to apply support/sponsor decals....so alone, it's ugly...but decals would benefit from the background to stand out. From the side you definitely see how the MotoGP bike influences this design. I have a '22 V4s, and the way they've integrated the aero winglets into this design sucks..it's a BIG red blob...the reason the previous generation V4 was so attractive was there was some contrast in the color scheme.
I love that because it’s wings are integrated everyone is calling it a bmw. It literally doesn’t share a single line with an s1k or m1k. I love the design, I agree the body panels are a little weird. Understand this is the start of a new era the 6th gen looked pretty basic and bland when it came out, now look how far it has come. This is only the foundation and I’m sure it will mature nicely. It’s clear the 7th gen was built for riders 1st and garage princesses 2nd. Let’s see how many series Ducati will dominate with this one
They have already been dominating racing with their previous models and lets be honest here most Panigale owners don't take their bikes to the track...so catering to a tiny percentage of owners isn't how you sell motorcycles
I’m a Ducatist through and through and have owned 4 generations of their superbikes and still own two. I honestly think it’s a big improvement from it predecessor, here is why… it appears it has a slimmer waist line which will make it feel more like the L twin when mounted on it, the front is streamlined and sleek, 1000rr ish, the whole bike looks like it has been on a diet even though I don’t think it has lost much weight. Everything else I will wait until I see it in person and hopefully test ride in 2025. I actually like the swing arm. Love the large dash too.
For me it all starts with the design and this one just doesn't hit the mark...everything else def seems like a step up but I just can't get past the design. Maybe it will grow on me but for now I'm a bit let down
The last time Ducati disappointed there customers with the 999 where for all the same reasons mentioned in this video. Let’s remember that model was a very successful racer! I predict the same with this model.
Im with you on the swingarm style, just look at how good the Aprilia one is, Ducati could have followed that style a little. As for the front, the present model is far better. Sadly they've gone one step forward and two back
I've been waiting to hear what you think about the new V4 2025, and yes, I agree with you, the bike resembles the CBR and the BMW (front fairing and headlights), which I think is bad, not because those two bikes are ugly or something, but because Ducati design was always special and different, you immediately know that's a Ducati when you look at it and not some other Japanese bike, Ducati never make you wonder, 🤔... Hmmm, what bike is it ? ... (except for the new Monster 🥱, which now looks like any generic Japanese "naked" motorcycle since Ducati decided to ditch the tubular frame, which is a crime to do on a Monster in my opinion) ... They say they took inspiration from the ICONIC 916... I don't see it! 1. the motorcycle no longer has a double air intake under the headlights, now it has a middle one 2. no single sided swingarm 3. no under-tail exhaust ... (which is also the case with the "old" V4, and you can install the under-tail system later, but if the bike is inspired by the 916, all those classic Ducati design details are missing) The new V4 looks more like a Desmosedici with winglets than a 916... It seems that Ducati has strayed down the 999 (🤢) path once again... As for the swingarm change, I'm not as mad about it as most, especially if that change brings an improvement in performance, handling and comfort on the bike, probably that decision was made because they couldn't squeeze more power out of the engine (1HP over the "old" V4) so the solution for performance improvement had to be looked for elsewhere... And if this change had to come, they couldn't have designed the new swingarm better, it's different, it looks lightweight and allows you to still see the rim and the rear tire through it like in the Ducati tradition... I like that now the side fairings don't connect with the fuel tank like on the outgoing V4, it makes the bike look "lower" sleeker, and the shape of the new tank helps with that... All in all, it doesn't look bad, and I'm sure the new V4 is a total performance beast, but it doesn't scream "IT'S A DUCATI" at first glance which Ducati bikes usually do... 🤷
The single sided sidearm is the staple of Ducati. Besides performance Ducati’s just looked exotic. The 2025 Panigale looks cheap. The wings for example appear molded into the front fairings. If it performs which I’m sure it will people forget a lot of this to a certain degree.
I think losing the single sided is a mistake , the improvement the average rider will get from a twin sided swing arm will be negligible, the single sided bikes are beautiful ,what a shame
I couldn't disagree more on the styling. I love it. Especially with the redesigned undertail Akra system on it. This bike will definitely be added to the stable.
And I was already afraid to question my V4 2023 and Monster. But no need for the "new" one. It certainly rides great and is technically state-of-the-art. But you eat with your eyes. Ducati seems to forget that 95% of V4 Pani owners never see a racetrack. For me, a visually attractive single-sided swingarm is more important than 1/10th of a lap faster on a racetrack. And probably only at professional level. As they said in the presentation. They tested both and the two-sided was faster. 🙄🤔
I hate that you can see behind the front wheel. Why is there such a small fairing? It looks like a smaller displacement motorcycle. Obviously it looks like it was designed in japan. May be a better bike, but not better enough to justify 26000. I would go MV.
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I'm glad i wont be regretting buying a 2023 v4s
That is the one to own now!
I PX'd my V4S for a V4R, DIFFERENT BIKE! I do have a Ducati Comfy Seat for sale for the V4S, it made a DIFFERENCE being 6'2"
When I first saw the picture of the bike I almost immediately thought the bike is ugly. I didn't even want to look no further into the bike. That first impression or that first glance should attract you right then and there in my opinion. I've never owned a high displacement bike or expensive bike for that matter which it is my dream one day but I really do have love for motorcycles in general. Thanks for taking the time to break it all down for us..💯💯💯 ✌🏾
I can’t. Looks like a Chinese knock off of a Panigale but made by Ducati. All previous generations of the Panigale just skyrocketed 😩
Totally 😂
I think it looks cool. Same thing people said about the s1kRR when they did simetrical headlights. People hated it but now they love it. Ducati did a good job here
899/1199 panigale still best design in imo
Those were amazing
Defo 1199.
Disappointed no more single-sided swing arm...🥲 and what's up with that exhaust attachment black piece?🙈😳
😂😂 🤦
this look way better than single
I am wondering if they made a huge improvement by reducing heat on rider.
Somthing about the single sided swing arm was what made a ducati a ducati. now that it no longer has that and the entire new body design. it doesnt really look like a ducati anymore
Then you never knew what a Ducati is.
A V-Twin was a thousand times more representative of the Ducati brand than a single sided swingarm has EVER been, of you're ok with the transition to a V4 i have no clue how you could have a problem with a conventional swingarm.
its panigale, in the end ducati want to win again in wsbk and all other racing series, you can get ur single sided in swingarm in streetfighter
never liked the single sided tbh it's hard to adjust, worst handling and only looks good on the right side whats the point 🤣
Ducati don't have single side shit on motogp... All matters is performance.. Happy they ditch that worthless single side shit arm... Bring all motogp tech to v4s and i will be happy if they continue to dominate in wsbk.... Don't care what people says bcz they're not engineer...
@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412 we buy Ducatis for looks and swag not for racing in the track 😁
The tank reminds me of yamaha R1's tank. Front design reminds me of bmw s1000rr.
Meh. Not a huge fan of the new design. It's just OK - nothing amazing, but the single-sided swingarm is iconic Ducati superbike. 99% of these bikes are ridden on the street so I would have kept the single-sided swingarm for the V4/V4S and done the double-sided swingarm for the V4R which is really meant to be ridden on the track. I have a '22 V4 Panigale and I'm feeling pretty good about my bike today! 😎
99% of these bikes are not ridden on the street a majority are on the track, The single-sided swingarm is not iconic to Ducati, Ducati sells more bikes with double sided swingarms than single. If you just want a bike to get people that don't know anything about motorcycles to look at you then get an MV Agusta.
Couldn't agree more
@@Waldo1122 Um you might want to talk to your local Ducati dealer. When I was looking at getting a V4 the dealer told me almost all his V4/V4S customers ride their bikes on the street. He said only his V4R customers were about 50%/50% street/track. This came from the largest Ducati dealer in Southern California.
@@RichardIII_YT Your first mistake was listening to anything a stealership salesman tells you. These are the same people that wouldn't be able to tell you whether the bike has a catalytic converter on it or not unless they talk to service.
I agree with practically everything you said. My thoughts exactly. I owned 2018 V4S, did 30 track days in COTA. All that being said, for me it is still a contender, but damn prices are getting really high , to have a proper build for track now is becoming well north of 50K and thats tough for many including myself. Currently on M1000XR, but want to get back into track riding. I gotta see the new KTM 990 RCR and weigh in against track only options like Kramer GP2 890RR. I understand why they made all the decisions as their primary goal is to get back on top in wsbk.. we’ll see
yeah I feel like they are really starting to price out the everyday enthusiast with these prices and its really a shame
As far as double sided swingarms go, it’s a really cool looking setup. I do prefer the single sided counterpart - if nothing else, it’s easier to adjust the chain and remove the wheel. The winglets are NOT integrated, just body colored. They’re clearly separate pieces that are plugged into the fairing.
You nailed the assessment. Love your candid pov, as most are just liking it for no reason other than it's a Ducati with no why or what.
I happen to agree with everything you said. Nice video.
Appreciate it man glad it was helpful!
For me, this model is uglier, it is not as aggressive as the old model, Ducati has failed here, it had a great opportunity to do something more aggressive and futuristic and what they have done is a ducati super sport from 2016 with some aesthetic touches.
They failed by making the bike perform better than it ever has? You are a total goof.
@@Waldo1122 Aesthetically it's garbage
@@uxjordan And in the 40 minute presentation they never talked about trying to design the bike to look pretty, they talked about designing the bike to perform as best as it possibly can. All the squids like you can go buy an MV Agusta and continue enjoying straight line racing and single sided swingarms.
@@Waldo1122 🥱🥱🥱🥱
To each their own ☺️ can’t wait for mine
😂😂😂 your commentary on this is hilarious. A lot of “tempered disappointment”.
lol I tried my best to stay positive about it
😮boring!😮😮😮😮😮
@@JaretCampisi You did much better than I could have. There are definitely some things I like, but also some nasty shit, like that “Lower Compartment” belly pan option to cover the “racing silencers.” If I see someone with that on their bike, I’m laughing at them. LOL
If Ducati are going to focus so much on the track,
It might as well go the way of the R1..
My neglected adopted red haired step brother just rocked up. I'll be keeping my 2019 V4s Corse.
Smart move. Love that design 👌🏼
missed on the double-sided swing arms! Looks like a Honda to me now :))
I def get Honda CBR vibes for sure
@@JaretCampisi Yes indeed 😁
The headlight sucks, looks like a half asleep look. If they had made the height an inch bigger it would have been very nice,
The one thing I disliked about the new generation s1000rr is I feel the bike looks really basic, lost its character and now I feel the same about this new Panigale. I just sold my 21 panigale V4 last Sunday, I should of keep it 🥲
I’m sure the looks will grow on me, but just think it was a sad direction they took for looks. It’s lost that aggressive style and look at the front especially the lights
I own a 2015 1299 Panigale S. Big twin! Old school! I love it.
Do you think the last generation V4 I guess it is now like 2020-2024 or whichever years with the single sided swing arm will go up in value
I could see them hold their value better and possibly depreciate less but I don't think they will go up
it's a perfect progression, they are doing a great job! the top riders are confirming that it's a second faster on average when compared to the previous bike!
I do think thats great BUT I just wish they could have achieved that performance while making the bike look beautiful and keeping that single sided swing arm as well :)
Yup... designer is fired!!
😊
Next Campisi Custom=MV Agusta😊
I think it actually went down in horsepower. The SF has 208hp, the “old” Panigale had 216hp or sth.
that's just because of regulations...once the bike is tuned it will be the same as the old one or slightly more :)
Good for Aprilla,BMM etc.
panigale just got BMWfied
I hope that they change the side fairings and the subframe on that bike in the R and Superleg
Dude, that looks phenomenal and bad-ass
Honestly the single swing arm is a must on Ducati I love the company but Jaret you did as best as you can to not hurt the company, but they are making mistakes in this new 2025 V4 I don’t want to hurt the company. I’m proud owner single sided swing arm Ducati and I look forward to just looking at that craftsmanship to me the best looking bikes.
haha its not secret ducati is my fav brand so I was an nice as I could be about the new model :)
Lol I can tell you have a soft spot for Ducati your a true Ducatisti even your Mrs n dad I watch all your videos here from Australia I’m Portuguese but lived my life down under. love all your builds you did the best you could with what you had Jaret
Ps I’m a proud owner of a Ducati 899 Panigale first thing I did after buying her making her a single swing arm , sourced a 1199 swing arm from US wheels from Italia not cheap but she is my build my baby 1199 best of both worlds never selling her I love Ducati but still got a lot to finish but she is on the road bust little stuff doing rb racing Sydney Australia doing all my work thanks to Jaret you show me what’s possible keep doing your videos n I’m proud to see how well you have done for yourself but your humble n honest I wish you Kristina n Daddo all the best .And your mate from motomillion keep it going god bless always thanks 🙏🏼 for your review on a hard review .Thanks again for reply and being down to earth
Everything you don't like about it, Jaret, I like😂 and I've never been a Ducati fan. If you ever do a custom build in only the way you do it❤ Id support it. Cant wait for what's in store with your builds bro!
Best looking Ducati so far.. much more streamlined
3:25 I did a customization on the website, the prices jumps even further when you start adding body add on like carbon and/or technology additions. I went overboard but was able to get to over $60K. I can get a bmw S1K with the M & premium package and pay $20K less give or take a few grand. Everything else I can overlook but the swing arm will most certainly be a dealbreaker. We’ll see
Jaret understand your opinion. On this bike. I seen this bike today. I reckon when you see it in the flesh. You probably will change your mind. Ducati have always build great looking bikes. I would definitely consider buying this bike. Absolutely love it.
Beautiful choice of the Ride 4 menu music🙌🙌🙌
So I've got the last edition of the Panigale V4R with single side swinging arm? Will this have an impact on resale value? IF I DECIDE TO SELL..
I honestly don't think it will
The previous gen is better and more aggressive looking in my opinion. I will definitely keep my panigale V4S 2022. just not a fan of the new gen.
Me too.
CBR 1000RRR 2024 or Ducati v4s 2024 now I am confused which bike should i get...😐
As the owner of many Ducati’s including previously 916. Pani 1299s, V4s, currently a 996 & A 2020 V4 I couldn't agree more with your comments on this 2025 version. I for one won't be trading in my V4 for the new one.
Thanks for sharing. I'm not a fan. I have an SP2 and so glad I bought it. I don't like the built in red winglets. I don't like the dual swingarm. I agree with you that it looks too busy on the side fairings with all those lines. It doesn't look flush with the black underbelly when you install the wheel barrel Akra. I feel it looks like another Japanese liter bike. Give it 1-2 years and then go back to the original formula. It it ain't broke, don't fix it.
13:58, its seems to be a race lower catch fairing, for oil if the motor gives way in competition.
Front looks like the Typhoon fighter jet and the V4 engine finally gets a new chassis worthy of the marque, good use of symmetry and A-symmetry, looks like Lamborghini design influence! Beautiful forged/cast parts, but should have given a new name. Should pair well with new Huracan replacement.
I think the running light cutout is perhaps separating an integrated indicator.
Woah 😳 from some angles it looks odd, reminds me of me favorite Ducati ever made the Desmosedici RR, I wonder if that's where they got the inspiration from
Seat hight is the same, or you have to be 7 feet tall to touch the ground?
the fairings more looks like honda fireblade design
Yep thats exactly what I said!
Full disclosure: I've never owned a Ducati and I'm not their target market for this bike. Personally, I'm okay with a conventional swingarm; however, I think they could have designed it a little better. I can't stand winglets on any bike (Euro or Japanese). My only other gripe is I think there's a little too much space in the area between the front wheel and the main body of the bike. The Panigale V2 (the 899?) originally came with a conventional swingarm before reverting to a single-sided swingarm like the 848. Maybe Ducati will do the same to the V4 should sales fall below expectations.
Tbh at first sight I didn’t like it but it’s growing on me more I think the 25 would look a lot better modded out (especially the under tail) and i know you’re not a huge fan but I personally would absolutely love to see a build series on the new v4. Still a little sad it doesn’t have a single sided swing arm but I understand the choice from a performance prospective
Well it saved me money. R1 here I come!
Let’s give it a chance, probably looks better in person
Mr. Campisi, I couldn’t agree with you more… all of your statements, pointers and observations about this bike are valid.
As a motorcycle collector of 37 years, I added a 2024 Panigale V4S to my collection just 2 weeks ago. I believe the 2024 model could’ve served Ducati well another 2-4 years with minor upgrades. Then again, consumers’ views, collectors’ views, hardcore riders’ views and manufacturer’s views do always differ.
Regardless of opinions, your points are well made, great presentation indeed!
Thank you for creating and sharing this video with us.
Nish 🇦🇲🇱🇧🇺🇸
i cant wait for you to get this bike and fix the look of the panigale
No single swing harm no Ducati, front winglets no need.
The 2024 Panigale V4 looked like a sinister shark. Ready to attack the track and eat the competition. This 2025 version looks like an ordinary red motorcycle.
100%
Agree! Looks like a CF Moto ! 🫣
When I first saw it i hated it ..but after digging into it over the last 24 hours..I'm sold !! Im loving it !. Also you see the US power numbers vs Europe?!!! we are down like 8-9hp and almost 1000 rpm lower...clearly ours will be restricted in stock form so a tune is a must. All this electronic stuff is too much for me . Shit, on my 18' Speciale I have everything turned off minus the quickshifter lol. I think I will toss on in the garage once the R is out next year...that or KTM 1390r
You should tell Ducati you don’t like , they might listen to you lol
The truth is that 90 to 95% of V4 owners for the last generation can't even ride that model to it's max limit, nor are they capable to notice swing arm and chasis flex at such high speeds and discern the difference between that and what their suspension is doing, they lack the professional training and experience nessecary to understand these dynamics and handle it. Most V4 owners purchase this bike for the looks because nothing is designed more beautifully, performance matters, but we aren't chasing lap times or competing. It may have been wiser to make two versions, one with a single sided swing arm for the street riders and another produced in limited quantities with the double sided swing arms for the professional track riders, those who are capable and rich enough to track them. I'm not sure how this idea was overlooked by head office. I waited for this model to purchase it, but now I'll keep my old Ducati until another single sided swing arm model comes out that looks beautiful. Perfect refresh for rich track riders, race teams and professionals who compete, but not smart from an overal sales perspective though. They will sell less of them than ever before. It's a huge miss for their actual demographic, overall for the rest of the design it's also not nearly as nice as last years.
Another wanker who knows more than the Ducati marketing Guru's.
But does it have a gas gauge?
Still none😅
Gotta wait till 2029 model.
Ducati told their dealers to stop asking them to add a fuel gauge. They said “when customers ask for a fuel gauge - tell them to buy a Multistrada too.” True story told to me from the largest Ducati dealer in Southern California. 😂
I like to see them making an effort to cool the bike down; since I live in an area that routinely see's triple digits from June through September. I already lost one nut to testicular cancer so I can't afford to continue frying old faithful. I won't make any judgments otherwise until I actually see the bike in person and ride it.
Man, def agree. Everything about this 2025 is advanced out the box, but the looks. Perhaps Ducati is looking to reach out to more mainstream riders with the latest, greatest technology while satisfying their race requirements. Interested to see how their sales respond. Oh yeah, dig your navigation skills on the website too...LOLOL
At the end of the day Ducati is in the business of selling motorcycles so if people don't buy it, it really doesn't matter how "good" the bike is, it would still be a failure
@@JaretCampisi Absolute truth.
Absolutely stunning, much better than the clunky old one
The gap between the front tire and the front end of the bike is bigger than goofy’s front teeth gap 😂😂 why did they do this. It can’t be the same design team.
Exactly!
Leans easier like that,and more agile as well
Allows more airflow into the radiators! Did you not read the specs info?
Absolutely, thats the profile look of the Bike, that indeed looks Awkward...Touche'
It's beautiful all it needs is some decals🎉
The bike looks good but without the iconic single swing arm to me personally it’s not worth it
I loved the video and hope you do a test ride as soon as it comes out!
Ducati shit their pants with how dominating bmw is in 2024. Honestly it is a very good move to make the bike lighter to overcompensate bautista's ballast weight so it stays like before. We'll see how this bike compete with toprak's bmw.
Not a fan of the overall design, but if they're doing a double sided swing arm I think this actually looks pretty solid
I actually like the redesign. But, I’m also a lot less resistant to change than most people lol. It’s still a sexy motorcycle. 🤷🏾♂️
Well, at least they didn't use Royal Blue &/or yellow with this bike, but maybe matte Carbon with Italian flag colors highlights brushed Aluminum tank and swing arm.
A tip-over with those intergraded Wings will cost you over 3k to fix
It looks like the electric bike. No bueno man. All they had to do was do all the upgrades, headlights and leave the side fairings, single sided swing arm. It looks like a Honda. 100% say they’ll change it in 2 years
I don't mind the swingarm, and the electronics package is next level. The V4R version of this will be very interesting. Overall I'm kind of neutral as to the looks. It looks like an AI mashup of all of their bikes.
I think that this bike would be cool as a build
Also we will get used to the design and we will probably like it
someone please tell me what’s up with the swing arm ? they didn’t need the double before ? with 250 hp
so it looks like a chinese motorcycle
Prices aren’t that much more than the current model. With that said, I like the current gen waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better aesthetically
"It is a complete redesign but obviously it is using the same engine..." Soooo... it is not a complete redesign.
I love the single sided swingarm that they stole from Honda in '94 but I think this new swing is amazing too. Look at it ! You can see the whole tire almost.
As an owner of 2020 V4S, I'm keeping my bike. lol..
It’s clearly about WSBK performance. It’s not as cool looking as the 2024 but initial opinions usually mellow with time. I think with the right modes from the catalogue it looks pretty slick. Different coloured winglets would probably make it look better. It’s a Ducati for the racer or track rides rather than the weekend warrior poser lots of people like these on the track.
Ducati is in the business of selling motorcycles...if people don't like how they look and they don't sell then the bike is a failure regardless of how "good" the bike is. At the end of the day selling bikes is what funds their race team...
the racing compartment probably forms a belly pan to catch fluids and allows racers a black background to apply support/sponsor decals....so alone, it's ugly...but decals would benefit from the background to stand out. From the side you definitely see how the MotoGP bike influences this design. I have a '22 V4s, and the way they've integrated the aero winglets into this design sucks..it's a BIG red blob...the reason the previous generation V4 was so attractive was there was some contrast in the color scheme.
where do u get the income to buy all these toys?
Definitely NOT a fan of the new bike AT ALL! 👎😒
I'm sure Ducati is really upset about that! NOT!
Make the sharp looking model years more valuable
I love that because it’s wings are integrated everyone is calling it a bmw. It literally doesn’t share a single line with an s1k or m1k. I love the design, I agree the body panels are a little weird. Understand this is the start of a new era the 6th gen looked pretty basic and bland when it came out, now look how far it has come. This is only the foundation and I’m sure it will mature nicely. It’s clear the 7th gen was built for riders 1st and garage princesses 2nd. Let’s see how many series Ducati will dominate with this one
They have already been dominating racing with their previous models and lets be honest here most Panigale owners don't take their bikes to the track...so catering to a tiny percentage of owners isn't how you sell motorcycles
I’m a Ducatist through and through and have owned 4 generations of their superbikes and still own two. I honestly think it’s a big improvement from it predecessor, here is why… it appears it has a slimmer waist line which will make it feel more like the L twin when mounted on it, the front is streamlined and sleek, 1000rr ish, the whole bike looks like it has been on a diet even though I don’t think it has lost much weight. Everything else I will wait until I see it in person and hopefully test ride in 2025. I actually like the swing arm. Love the large dash too.
For me it all starts with the design and this one just doesn't hit the mark...everything else def seems like a step up but I just can't get past the design. Maybe it will grow on me but for now I'm a bit let down
@@JaretCampisiagreed, this bike is hideous and not just because of the swing arm
The last time Ducati disappointed there customers with the 999 where for all the same reasons mentioned in this video. Let’s remember that model was a very successful racer! I predict the same with this model.
@@Group.Byea why would they care about looks its performance
Exactly 999 mistake all over again Im also Ducatisti but this bike is mistake
Im with you on the swingarm style, just look at how good the Aprilia one is, Ducati could have followed that style a little. As for the front, the present model is far better. Sadly they've gone one step forward and two back
I was saying to friends that it would be really hard to make a nicer bike than the 2023 model, I think I was right!!
I've been waiting to hear what you think about the new V4 2025, and yes, I agree with you, the bike resembles the CBR and the BMW (front fairing and headlights), which I think is bad, not because those two bikes are ugly or something, but because Ducati design was always special and different, you immediately know that's a Ducati when you look at it and not some other Japanese bike, Ducati never make you wonder, 🤔... Hmmm, what bike is it ? ... (except for the new Monster 🥱, which now looks like any generic Japanese "naked" motorcycle since Ducati decided to ditch the tubular frame, which is a crime to do on a Monster in my opinion) ...
They say they took inspiration from the ICONIC 916... I don't see it!
1. the motorcycle no longer has a double air intake under the headlights, now it has a middle one
2. no single sided swingarm
3. no under-tail exhaust ... (which is also the case with the "old" V4, and you can install the under-tail system later, but if the bike is inspired by the 916, all those classic Ducati design details are missing) The new V4 looks more like a Desmosedici with winglets than a 916... It seems that Ducati has strayed down the 999 (🤢) path once again...
As for the swingarm change, I'm not as mad about it as most, especially if that change brings an improvement in performance, handling and comfort on the bike, probably that decision was made because they couldn't squeeze more power out of the engine (1HP over the "old" V4) so the solution for performance improvement had to be looked for elsewhere...
And if this change had to come, they couldn't have designed the new swingarm better, it's different, it looks lightweight and allows you to still see the rim and the rear tire through it like in the Ducati tradition...
I like that now the side fairings don't connect with the fuel tank like on the outgoing V4, it makes the bike look "lower" sleeker, and the shape of the new tank helps with that...
All in all, it doesn't look bad, and I'm sure the new V4 is a total performance beast, but it doesn't scream "IT'S A DUCATI" at first glance which Ducati bikes usually do... 🤷
1:59 i was about to say if S1000RR and fireblade had a child.
First impressions wasn’t good for me, but now it’s growing on me.
Finally Cruise Control,,another feature the ZX-10-RR has had for years
Ducati just said F- the customer, they will still buy it ugly or not. 😂😂
@jared Campasi are you going to buy one of these 2025 Ducati Panigale v4 as a giveaway bike ?
The single sided sidearm is the staple of Ducati. Besides performance Ducati’s just looked exotic. The 2025 Panigale looks cheap. The wings for example appear molded into the front fairings. If it performs which I’m sure it will people forget a lot of this to a certain degree.
I think losing the single sided is a mistake , the improvement the average rider will get from a twin sided swing arm will be negligible, the single sided bikes are beautiful ,what a shame
I couldn't disagree more on the styling. I love it. Especially with the redesigned undertail Akra system on it. This bike will definitely be added to the stable.
All good design will always be subjective but from what I've seen most people don't like it :)
And I was already afraid to question my V4 2023 and Monster. But no need for the "new" one. It certainly rides great and is technically state-of-the-art. But you eat with your eyes.
Ducati seems to forget that 95% of V4 Pani owners never see a racetrack. For me, a visually attractive single-sided swingarm is more important than 1/10th of a lap faster on a racetrack. And probably only at professional level. As they said in the presentation. They tested both and the two-sided was faster. 🙄🤔
For me new model looks fantastic ❤
I hope it’s one of those that looks better in person. Cos this looks disjointed
If this can win races I am okay with the looks.
I hate that you can see behind the front wheel. Why is there such a small fairing? It looks like a smaller displacement motorcycle. Obviously it looks like it was designed in japan. May be a better bike, but not better enough to justify 26000. I would go MV.