I recently started riding a motorcycle and this is my exact feeling. It’s like I’ve never been in a vehicle before and suddenly I’m trying to remind myself of what to do every 5min.
Yep, agree with that. I was fortunate to have been able to drive my dads LR & tractors on our farm since I was 10 or 11 years old, (a long time ago, wouldn't be allowed now🙄). So when I was 17 I just needed instruction in how to drive on roads because I already knew how to handle a vehicle. Btw., I passed my driving test first time just 2 weeks after my 17th birthday. I did say it was a long time ago 😂
I got used to that concept a long time ago whilst playing racing games, but when driving my car in real life it wasn't really something I practiced. It was only after I started riding a motorcycle that I got used to looking as far forward as possible and now it is done automatically on my bike and in my car. One other upside of that is: there is less surprises now in front of me on the straights as well.
I watch these videos as a reminder sometimes. So easy to get complacent, music on, thinking about your dinner, whatever. I'm not the greatest driver but there's some lunatics out there man.
I was taught look where you want to go but really don't look at what you want to avoid otherwise you will hit it. That works especially for a motorbike but also for cars.
In the category "driving with blinders on" 🐎 Not looking to the left, not looking to the right, not looking in the mirrors. Zombie drivers: not aware of their surroundings. Good thing you intervened, because it starts with this and with hood staring
Wow incredible little app you've got there to demonstrate how she was driving and how to improve it! Wish I had this much in-depth analysis on my driving lessons 😔, great visual learning there perfect as always. Ashley
This is incredible advice. I suppose for learners though, if they're nervous, they might be feeling a little overly stressed and then tunnel vision sets in. I remember after my accident, my rider anxiety was making me have a physical reaction to similar events which made me more tense and meant I didn't act naturally.
Biggest thing in driving is to look where you want to go as this is where you will tend to steer, in general driving this will also allow you to scan your peripheral, other than that checking your mirrors before any change in speed or direction that isn't an absolute emergency and doing shoulder checks when taking off or, I would argue, when merging slowly or changing lanes when your relative speeds are close, always good to make sure nobodies in your blind spot and it can be done really quickly!
Another thing, on the corner cutting subject... I'm quite aware of people (myself included) cutting corners, and have made an effort to stop doing that. It's become such a big problem actually that the term "Mayor's turn" has been coined officially for cutting across the oncoming lane while turning.
It's this sort of thing why I think a skidpad/spin and slide lesson would seriously help drivers. To control a slide, you NEED to look where you want to go, not forwards. You end up looking out the side windows, not the windscreen.
Great video and I love the graphics you used to explain the problem. Watching this last night actually gave me a clue on why one of my students was struggling with what I’ve been working on as two seperate issues but is actually one. Thank you.
I've been using this technique on track days for a numbers of years now and I forgot how natural looking far became on the road. Take the speed up and onto a circuit I suddenly found myself looking forward and not at where I want to go (I.e apex of a corner). I particularly like the App you have, a great tool!
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for sharing with us Beth and well done, it felt like lovely smooth use of the controls there - listening to the engine note through headphones was very relaxing!
Back when Dinosaurs still roamed I was taking driving lessons and can't recall being taught like this. I've been trying to work out why....... One of two possibilities here. Either: 1) A natural instinct for car control; 2) Piloting experience (power glider) where many skills were learned that, perhaps, were transferable to benefit road use....... First time I've mentioned this but its given me cause to reflect. I was very fortunate to have this opportunity. Whatever the reason, I'm still glad to be a subscriber to this channel - with a view to self-improvement. It would be interesting, from Ashley's opinion, to see how good or bad I really am! Good luck Beth..... I would like to bet that you pass first time 😊. Stay safe everyone 👍.
I have had this conversation with others regarding where to look when negotiating a turn many times, hence why i don't chop off junctions and cut corners.
I remember making the same mistake as a learner (many years ago). Also, since switching from a conventional hatchback to a small(ish) mpv I now have a massive pillar where I need to look across...in some situations. Honda put a tiny triangular window up front but IMO it doesn’t compensate. I have to sometimes lean forward to see round the pillar.
Another tiny lesson in this. _You don't have to leave the roundabout._ So guys, when you find yourself in the wrong lane, please don't cut across traffic to make it. Just do another lap.
Im guessing you probably wouldnt agree but i did driving lessons 10 years ago and after all that time ive decided to go for my licence without any formal teacher. Ive taken alot of advixe from TH-cam and mainly you ashley. Going for my test in 2 days. Ill keep you updated, thanks!
Wow that app usage really helped you explain that to both her and the audience. That's a really great app you have (made?). That's also a really good learning point, since I feel most of us here can say they mounted a couple of curbs in the past, after getting their license
Wow that explanation is really good. To be fair, I've never needed this sort of instructions for the turnings, maybe because I have riden my bike on the road for a year before the test and because of videogames.It's kind of always been second nature for me But really, super good explanation Ashley
As someone who learned to ride a bike at a young age, it becomes second nature controlling vehicles in this way such that I never even knew this was a thing. Great tip for learners though.
Not meaning to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet here but I don't do this I always look far, took some practise though and it is a confidence thing and that comes with experience, keep up the good work with your pupils 👍
This is just me but maybe it applies to this. But I always look we’re I’m going, not where I am, if that makes sense. If you can see a hazard further up the 150 yards up the road than if it was 50 yards then there’s so much more time to react to it.
Look where you want to go, steer where you want to go. That includes during slipping. Look far ahead, but that is difficult when you haven't got much experience yet. If you can't look far ahead, slow down.
Can't say i've ever looked forward and not in the direction the car was going...even when I was learning a decade ago...I mean it's just so natural to look down the road you're turning into and not where you know you won't be travelling (Once you know it's clear to reach the junction of course). Honestly I think people cut corners and turn early out of laziness, not because they aren't looking properly. After all, you can take the corners faster if you have less of a turn to take, that's ultimately why people cut corners...it's "faster" in their minds, whereas a completely 90 degree turn will need to be slowed down for more. Personally I think it's common sense after you've had a few lessons and some hours on the road...people who have been driving for years should do this naturally...I now worry that this is the case for a lot of drivers, and I don't understand why it's a problem lol.
I wish your point was right and for good ones it is, but I've seen so many hgv drivers get themselves into exactly the pickles your talking about because they failed to do this
Hi Ashley, I watch all your vids (subscriber I am), but this is my first time writing to you. I have a question... Why is it that people negotiating roundabouts think that you can indicate right whilst moving around the roundabout, but whichever exit you want does not require the left hand indicator to be used. Who teaches them, eh? And I don’t mean you!
I wonder if people are struggling with positioning on turns and junctions now because they didn't grow up riding bicycles which teaches you about positioning, it becomes ingrained if you start very young.
"look where you want to go" very quickly became the mantra of the host of Canada's Worst Driver. It turned out that a very large fraction of errors made by the "contestants" were exactly this. Looking at the wrong place.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who hold full licences who do this. Hence why mandatory CBT/125cc should be taken before driving lessons/test. I'm not saying we're superior, but my CBT instructor nearly failed me - afterwards I mentioned about doing it in my driving lessons and he said a full bike licence is an advanced driving level - he instructs both advanced drivers and bikers, very knowledgeable guy. Back to the point, you're forced to look ahead in traffic, otherwise you'll physically fall off the bike.
I think for people who cut corners its more laziness. What Ashley is teaching here should also come naturally with experience, it isn't really possible to make a turn at anything higher than an idling pace in first gear without looking where you're going else you'll crash into things. That said my instructor did teach me specifically not to cut corners which stuck, but then so did the bad habits of driving a diesel which took me a while to undo as well.
The one @1:20? I'd go past, they're going to have to wait, as the main road has priority, I'm still learning but the black car misjudged where to stop for sure. If they hadn't of stopped or showed signs of not stopping I wouldn't go past at all x
Yea, the black cab had stopped, just a bit over the line, most likely to try and see better round the parked cars. Didn't look like he was going to creep any further forward, so pressing on makes sure he doesn't think you might be letting him out.
Yes, he is over the line because he is trying to get a better view of oncoming traffic, if you would've slowed down he would think you're letting him go, so it's always best to keep going. Unless of course he is rolling out then slowing might be a better option.
Hi, I have just watched a video "6 things you should unlearn from your driving test" th-cam.com/video/nhQPBSa2w9k/w-d-xo.html Do you agree with any of the point made like telling people they SHOULD cross their hands on the wheel and not to use the handbrake?
Some of your videos properly give me the stressed feeling of when I was still learning to drive. Trying to do ten things at once! ARGH.
I recently started riding a motorcycle and this is my exact feeling. It’s like I’ve never been in a vehicle before and suddenly I’m trying to remind myself of what to do every 5min.
@@eliz_scubavn I started out on bikes, now I'm in London so pushbike/Tube, only drive to help friends move house and that sort of thing
I think it sounds like a TON of information because it actually is!
We take for granted all of these things we do automatically now as drivers.
Agreed, I remembered when I was learning to drive it always felt like information overload. Now I just drive as if I was riding a bicycle
Yep, agree with that.
I was fortunate to have been able to drive my dads LR & tractors on our farm since I was 10 or 11 years old, (a long time ago, wouldn't be allowed now🙄). So when I was 17 I just needed instruction in how to drive on roads because I already knew how to handle a vehicle. Btw., I passed my driving test first time just 2 weeks after my 17th birthday. I did say it was a long time ago 😂
This comes down to what my mum said to me ever since I started walking,
look where you're going
Passed today with 3 minors 😁
Well done bud.... Keep safe 👌👌
I got used to that concept a long time ago whilst playing racing games, but when driving my car in real life it wasn't really something I practiced. It was only after I started riding a motorcycle that I got used to looking as far forward as possible and now it is done automatically on my bike and in my car. One other upside of that is: there is less surprises now in front of me on the straights as well.
I watch these videos as a reminder sometimes. So easy to get complacent, music on, thinking about your dinner, whatever. I'm not the greatest driver but there's some lunatics out there man.
Excellent! I wish my instructor told me this before going to the roundabout lesson today. Ashley Neal, your explanations are amazing! Keep it up.
I was taught look where you want to go but really don't look at what you want to avoid otherwise you will hit it. That works especially for a motorbike but also for cars.
Yes, it's called Target Fixation
Look further ahead, not just in front of your vehicle
Avoid accidents by having time to anticipate and not react last second
In the category "driving with blinders on" 🐎 Not looking to the left, not looking to the right, not looking in the mirrors. Zombie drivers: not aware of their surroundings. Good thing you intervened, because it starts with this and with hood staring
Wow incredible little app you've got there to demonstrate how she was driving and how to improve it! Wish I had this much in-depth analysis on my driving lessons 😔, great visual learning there perfect as always. Ashley
This is incredible advice. I suppose for learners though, if they're nervous, they might be feeling a little overly stressed and then tunnel vision sets in. I remember after my accident, my rider anxiety was making me have a physical reaction to similar events which made me more tense and meant I didn't act naturally.
Biggest thing in driving is to look where you want to go as this is where you will tend to steer, in general driving this will also allow you to scan your peripheral, other than that checking your mirrors before any change in speed or direction that isn't an absolute emergency and doing shoulder checks when taking off or, I would argue, when merging slowly or changing lanes when your relative speeds are close, always good to make sure nobodies in your blind spot and it can be done really quickly!
Another thing, on the corner cutting subject... I'm quite aware of people (myself included) cutting corners, and have made an effort to stop doing that. It's become such a big problem actually that the term "Mayor's turn" has been coined officially for cutting across the oncoming lane while turning.
It's this sort of thing why I think a skidpad/spin and slide lesson would seriously help drivers. To control a slide, you NEED to look where you want to go, not forwards. You end up looking out the side windows, not the windscreen.
Great video and I love the graphics you used to explain the problem. Watching this last night actually gave me a clue on why one of my students was struggling with what I’ve been working on as two seperate issues but is actually one. Thank you.
I've been using this technique on track days for a numbers of years now and I forgot how natural looking far became on the road. Take the speed up and onto a circuit I suddenly found myself looking forward and not at where I want to go (I.e apex of a corner).
I particularly like the App you have, a great tool!
A1 Coaching, trusted learning and teaching us too. Many thanks Ash. Great channel for my pupil's reference library and home work too! Big help. 🚸🎯
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for sharing with us Beth and well done, it felt like lovely smooth use of the controls there - listening to the engine note through headphones was very relaxing!
Back when Dinosaurs still roamed I was taking driving lessons and can't recall being taught like this. I've been trying to work out why.......
One of two possibilities here. Either:
1) A natural instinct for car control;
2) Piloting experience (power glider) where many skills were learned that, perhaps, were transferable to benefit road use.......
First time I've mentioned this but its given me cause to reflect. I was very fortunate to have this opportunity.
Whatever the reason, I'm still glad to be a subscriber to this channel - with a view to self-improvement. It would be interesting, from Ashley's opinion, to see how good or bad I really am!
Good luck Beth..... I would like to bet that you pass first time 😊.
Stay safe everyone 👍.
I have had this conversation with others regarding where to look when negotiating a turn many times, hence why i don't chop off junctions and cut corners.
I remember making the same mistake as a learner (many years ago).
Also, since switching from a conventional hatchback to a small(ish) mpv I now have a massive pillar where I need to look across...in some situations. Honda put a tiny triangular window up front but IMO it doesn’t compensate. I have to sometimes lean forward to see round the pillar.
Another tiny lesson in this. _You don't have to leave the roundabout._ So guys, when you find yourself in the wrong lane, please don't cut across traffic to make it. Just do another lap.
And rarely will anyone else ever even know you went around more than once. Unless you're Chevy Chase in National Lampoon's European Vacation.
Im guessing you probably wouldnt agree but i did driving lessons 10 years ago and after all that time ive decided to go for my licence without any formal teacher. Ive taken alot of advixe from TH-cam and mainly you ashley.
Going for my test in 2 days. Ill keep you updated, thanks!
Good Luck!
@@ashley_neal Thought id Let you know, passed today, Huge thanks for your work!
Amazing job Chris!!!
Such a great video, so simple yet so effective! Thanks for this
Wow that app usage really helped you explain that to both her and the audience. That's a really great app you have (made?). That's also a really good learning point, since I feel most of us here can say they mounted a couple of curbs in the past, after getting their license
Wow that explanation is really good. To be fair, I've never needed this sort of instructions for the turnings, maybe because I have riden my bike on the road for a year before the test and because of videogames.It's kind of always been second nature for me But really, super good explanation Ashley
Look where you are going applies to riding horses in 10 & 20 metre circles too, rather than just looking straight ahead between the horses ears🐎🙂
As someone who learned to ride a bike at a young age, it becomes second nature controlling vehicles in this way such that I never even knew this was a thing. Great tip for learners though.
You really are good at your job.
As always, great video! You see so many people cutting corners, I probably do it myself without even noticing 😂 some great tips to be taken here! 🖒
Not meaning to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet here but I don't do this I always look far, took some practise though and it is a confidence thing and that comes with experience, keep up the good work with your pupils 👍
Well done, Beth!
I did the same thing in my first lesson, and even on the straights only looking where I am and not where I was going to be.
what she says at the end is very important also. Roundabouts can feel very pressured, you don't need to escape it ASAP, it's ok
Best piece of advice when I first started learning was to not focus on anything in particular and to just look ahead, not over the bonnet of the car
This is just me but maybe it applies to this. But I always look we’re I’m going, not where I am, if that makes sense. If you can see a hazard further up the 150 yards up the road than if it was 50 yards then there’s so much more time to react to it.
Look where you want to go, steer where you want to go. That includes during slipping. Look far ahead, but that is difficult when you haven't got much experience yet. If you can't look far ahead, slow down.
Can't say i've ever looked forward and not in the direction the car was going...even when I was learning a decade ago...I mean it's just so natural to look down the road you're turning into and not where you know you won't be travelling (Once you know it's clear to reach the junction of course).
Honestly I think people cut corners and turn early out of laziness, not because they aren't looking properly. After all, you can take the corners faster if you have less of a turn to take, that's ultimately why people cut corners...it's "faster" in their minds, whereas a completely 90 degree turn will need to be slowed down for more.
Personally I think it's common sense after you've had a few lessons and some hours on the road...people who have been driving for years should do this naturally...I now worry that this is the case for a lot of drivers, and I don't understand why it's a problem lol.
Driving an LGV forces you to look and read the road way ahead, failing to do that can really get you in a pickle.
You see a lot more road signs too, especially ones for bends.
I wish your point was right and for good ones it is, but I've seen so many hgv drivers get themselves into exactly the pickles your talking about because they failed to do this
Hi Ashley, I watch all your vids (subscriber I am), but this is my first time writing to you.
I have a question...
Why is it that people negotiating roundabouts think that you can indicate right whilst moving around the roundabout, but whichever exit you want does not require the left hand indicator to be used. Who teaches them, eh? And I don’t mean you!
I wonder if people are struggling with positioning on turns and junctions now because they didn't grow up riding bicycles which teaches you about positioning, it becomes ingrained if you start very young.
What is that app you're using?
"look where you want to go" very quickly became the mantra of the host of Canada's Worst Driver. It turned out that a very large fraction of errors made by the "contestants" were exactly this. Looking at the wrong place.
What app was that please Ashley?
App's are by Neil Beaver on iOS :)
As someone who lives down south, very surreal to see a clearly ex-B&H bus at 1:20!
If your head hasn’t been there 2 seconds before don’t put your self there - motorbike safe fast riding - applies to cars too !
Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who hold full licences who do this. Hence why mandatory CBT/125cc should be taken before driving lessons/test. I'm not saying we're superior, but my CBT instructor nearly failed me - afterwards I mentioned about doing it in my driving lessons and he said a full bike licence is an advanced driving level - he instructs both advanced drivers and bikers, very knowledgeable guy. Back to the point, you're forced to look ahead in traffic, otherwise you'll physically fall off the bike.
I think for people who cut corners its more laziness. What Ashley is teaching here should also come naturally with experience, it isn't really possible to make a turn at anything higher than an idling pace in first gear without looking where you're going else you'll crash into things. That said my instructor did teach me specifically not to cut corners which stuck, but then so did the bad habits of driving a diesel which took me a while to undo as well.
@@SPTSuperSprinter156 Which bad habits of driving a diesel are there? What makes driving a diesel different?
If that black car was there would I still go past it?
Which black car?
The one @1:20?
I'd go past, they're going to have to wait, as the main road has priority, I'm still learning but the black car misjudged where to stop for sure. If they hadn't of stopped or showed signs of not stopping I wouldn't go past at all x
Yea, the black cab had stopped, just a bit over the line, most likely to try and see better round the parked cars. Didn't look like he was going to creep any further forward, so pressing on makes sure he doesn't think you might be letting him out.
Of course you'd go past it. There was no issue there whatsoever.
Yes, he is over the line because he is trying to get a better view of oncoming traffic, if you would've slowed down he would think you're letting him go, so it's always best to keep going. Unless of course he is rolling out then slowing might be a better option.
Always signal. You don't know who is around hwo could benefit. Signal is as helpful to a pedestrian
Use your eyes more, rather than your hands. People die when you don’t look
Anyone else get dizzy on that roundabout...
Hi, I have just watched a video "6 things you should unlearn from your driving test" th-cam.com/video/nhQPBSa2w9k/w-d-xo.html Do you agree with any of the point made like telling people they SHOULD cross their hands on the wheel and not to use the handbrake?
look at where you want to go not at what your going to hit