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I'm just tired of sojourn/hog.
i say we take away another ammo for genji , make his dash do 15 leas damage, give him 10% slower walk speed, take away his wall climb, fix his reflect so that it doesnt reflect anything, then we can nerf sojourn and hog
Same here, fam...
@@JoeMama-nd8rj i miss genji😢
I’m tired of sojourn too, so I statted playing her. Its crazy having that much mobility and consistent damage output on top of a one shot as a hanzo main
@@JoeMama-nd8rj Ong Genji is way to broken rn
As a Sombra main, saying she's underpowered doesn't really get the point across.
She's VERY bad. Her kit was desgined to make her an assassin, but 8.7 ber bullet with hack doesn't threaten much unless her target is really out of position or their team isn't peeling at all. And this is when she can land her hack, which isn't guaranteed (also Kiriko counters her entire existence).
The highest value Sombra gets right now is to play as an enabler/backup for her teammates. Her wallhacks make good Widows even scarier, and she can easily appear out of nowhere to help rush down a target.
That being said, if you're not a Sombra specialist and/or lack a queueing group playing her is gonna be hell. Heck, even Sombra otps are starting to ditch her
A world where sombra is good sounds miserable though
@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 she was good in OW1 and the ones that complained were mostly the ones that just ignored her
The problem I see with Sombra is that she can be "inmortal" making her a very unfun hero to play against. Even if you coordinate with the team, unless you have a hard CC and the burst she just need to press E when loosing the fight and be 100m away from the enemy team, back full heal and repeat as much as she want. She should have more dmg and less survivability, her dives will have more impact but you have to choose them better.
The only way ive learned to get kills is by using her translocator offensively. If they are half health I teleport around them and I kill them. Doesnt work 100% of the time and they sometimes dont die since her dmg is trash but its good to catch them off guard. Works vs heros that cant teleport or dash away.
She can legit stay invisible a whole game
Mei is a sleep pick right now, I think once sojurn and kirko get their nerfs she's going to spike in power.
she has a good match up against widow considering that you can burst widow down with 2 shots and you have the mobility advantage in the fight. You have a similar match up as an ash v widow match up where one side has the mobility advantage and the other has better damage.
Wall is even stronger in 5v5, you split a 6v6 into a 6v2 and you still have 4 enemies left. You split the enemy team into a 5v2 and they only have 3 and have likely lost their most important player.
Did I mention outside of one shots your extremely survivable and can entirely shut down a hog if you cool down manage.
Freeze will either win a fight, give your tank a lot of space and/or force out a cleanse.
Wall imo is one of the most broken abilities in the game. Shuts down immort, isolates, defends, helps get to high ground, helps block ults, helps Mei’s own ult. Mei is crazy if you learn how to play her as good as possible
OW2 beta: Mei received 6 direct nerfs and 3 direct buffs...also her Cryofreeze now activates 1-2 frames slower and Ice Wall activates Multiple frames slower than OW1 based on how they coded it, so its easier for enemies to escape or kill Mei/allies before her abilities activate (unlike other heroes whose hitscan damage and abilities trigger the moment the player pushes the button). She also benefits almost little as Hanzo from the DPS Passive (reload) changes, and with the addition of Kiriko's Suzu (the hardest Mei counter in the game), Mei is in one of the worst places she's ever been. Ask Yongsa98, Rank 51 (Korea) Mei-only player, and he'd confirm all of this.
She is not that strong, but a little bit annoying
100% agree with you on Sym. She's only good depending on the user. I've seen so many people try and counterpick Sym against me (when I play Sym, she's my main) and ultimately fail and swap back shortly after. There are cases where the opponent Sym ended up actually doing good, but that's like 10% of the time it happens.
Bro you main Sym? I wish you the worst across all life’s endeavors
@@kirkstutler7710 I agree with you man
@@kirkstutler7710 what's your beef with Sym?
@@kirkstutler7710 lmaoo im with u
@@navdog6912 Her beam turrets are annoying as fuck
i'm new to overwatch with overwatch 2, and i surprised even myself when i found myself becoming an echo main. her ult feels really hard to pull off because you get focused so hard, but i do recognise that it has good value if you can live and pull it off, so i'd say it's a fair trade. i feel like she's in a good spot. A-tier is where you ideally want all heroes to be; strong but not overpowered.
So sick of the pocket meta
Real, even as someone who is very good as sojourn and widow its just not that fun to have to play them every game in order to win at high ranks
it’s part of the support role. Pocket people at certain times so they have a much higher chance to win their 1v1’s. Many if not all supports can pocket someone. No way to make that not “meta” lol
@@h2woah127 when people say pocket meta they mean mercy for the most part, kiriko pocketing tanks is annoying but nowhere near as much of an issue. The issue is mercys damage boost, it just doesnt work in the game anymore. Imo never really did, they had to take away ashes non damage boosted one shot combo because mercy messes with breakpoints, you shouldnt have to balance a hero around how damage boost will affect them
Yeah wtf. Supports are supposed too support aka POCKET!!!!
@@h2woah127 LOL. Yes there is. Just delete damage boost from Mercy.
I don’t think your giving bastion enough credit. The amount of dmg he dishes out in his tank mode makes even orisa and hog run in fear. I’ve even had games where ide just shoot through zarya bubbles and kill her. His mobility is also not to be underestimated, his grenade can cover just as much air as ashe’s coach gun. His ulti is pretty disappointing but can be useful for zoning enemies or forcing them out of corners.
He’s talking the super high Elos, his hit box is massive and good players will just wait around a corner for his mini gun to run out, then focus and kill him immediately.
@@skinfluithero4885 where hopefully he'll just sidestep past a corner and be fine? ;) Lol
@@skinfluithero4885 this is true
Bastion's fodder outside his tank form. Unless he has someone like a friendly Mercy on his arse, he's not gonna survive for long unless he enters his tank form. At least from my experience that was the case, and keep in mind I'm just Gold, so that's not even high ranks
Yeah agree I drop 20k dmg games sometimes with bas in gold 2 but he has many ways to be countered is the problem.
@@lulzywizard7576any dps/tank with half a brain can melt a bastion before they hit a corner, even worse with diving characters like tracer since it’s damn near impossible to miss Bastion from close range
I'd put echo a bit lower on the tier list. Because copy isn't a strong ult anymore. It's very situational depending on what comp the enemy runs but you can't play aggressively with copy because you just get blown up. Also, copy has the worst build rate of any ult. It's up there with ults like sound barrier in terms of ultimate cost. Also with widow, sojourn and ashe being meta you need to adopt an assassin-type playstyle to beat the snipers. And the dps passive nerf which hurt echo more than alot of heroes.
I have 7 hours on Mei in the past two weeks and she is so powerful. A great off tank
Actually every Character..
„Well this is a weird one”
i just recently picked up on bastion. he is O freaking P for punishing bad positioning, like if you get pocketed and a healer or dps decides to just peek you, they GONE
Sym mostly only works on indoor maps, with defense on control maps especially.
Sym on attack is very strong on some specific maps
Sym can be used everywhere if you understand how to flank with her teleporter
@@cameroni6656 did you read the word mostly? Ofcourse someone good can make her work, but 99% wont.
When is the next patch??? God I want a new tank meta that doesn't involve Hog.
ball meta when ?
Once they nerf hog, I bet whatever tank is 2nd best will be OP. This cycle will repeat. Makes sense since theres only 1 tank per team and its way stronger than dps and supports
@@Htiy sure but if they patch the game every 2 weeks then it won't feel as bad. I've been stuck playing Orisa since the first patch of s2 cuz no one else can fully deal with hog.
@@MitChHic I think Orisa and Hog will nerf in next patch. It might be Ramattra meta unless he getting nerf too
@@chohopei1422 yeah he needs a nerf to his ult. Also block probably needs to be looked at
Love your videos, what would you do to genji to make him abit stronger? ( oh wait you wanted to nerf him even more lol ;) )I love genji even if iam not good iam never going to stop playing him :)
Mei deserves more respect imo. If your great with ice spike it has no dmg fall off and can headshot for lots of damage. I use her to counter the current meta. Cut lines of site. Isolate picks. Hard poke headshots. Self heal. Big ults. Personally I think a cool way to buff her is just 50 more hp and full reload in the ice
What does pocketing mean? Thx ❤
Pharah is so easy to counter and her ultimate is a liability
Playing since OW2 launch and as a Genji main, I get what you are saying. Pockets are everywhere now and in a duel , we as genji need to take the 1st strike to win.
I hate being the back stabbing hero but the meta kinda forces me to do so
Where my fellow Diamond players at that understand meta but can’t quite climb because you got a random sombra going 2-10 and a hog that keeps getting anti’d but won’t swap ?
how is the hog supposed not to get anti'd just cleanse him with kiriko its really not his fault
@@zzz-uw7ouA good hog will know how to adapt. The Cleanse is strong but u shouldnt rely on it . Just dont overcommit ,take tigher angle and take cover.
Can someone tell me what Ashe skin that is at 1:22?
With this one shot meta I don’t really see how Tracer is S tier. You can’t just ignore the soj being pocketed to try and kill the mercy lol and one small mistake will literally mean death
In your thumbnail tracers missing from the dos slot
How do you counter a good widow
Damn I miss old Bastion.
Love me some Ashe
bro forgot Moira and thought we wouldn't notice
as a brig mostly 1trick, poke meta is so boring it hurts lmao
Take a shot when you hear "so this character is in a weird place"
Hog might be a necessary evil. If Hog is killed, pocket Sojourns will determine every game (like they already don’t.) Mercy, Kiriko and Sojourn are just a trio of misery. At least Hog can deal with them.
This might not get seen. But i listen to your videos while at work. But sometimes you are too quiet.
Could you turn your mic up, when recording so its more clear.
Thanks
this tier list is in a wierd situation
Ik this is gonna sound weird but I main mei and I love her❤
I ranked up with torb after being hard stuck gold 5
Generally that should be the idea for ranking up in OW. Using meme character in Metal ranks. Junkrat, Torbjörn, Symmetra, Echo, Moira etc
pls put an actual tier list somewhere in the video atleast at the end
I think there’s a certain bird missing on this list 😁
Can torb be gm? I want to get him there, but some say he is reallyd teong if played correctly. And some say he is bad at gm
what rank are u atm?
@@Danne_OW master
Bastion melts every tank lol how is that d.. I’m a tank confirming this when he goes tank mode with a healer it’s trouble every time
The devs are so incompetent, it's a joke they call themselves still Blizzard. The good ones are long gone. The worst balancing and the worst matchmaking of all big MP games.
cassidy is c at best right now
Buff genji?
Nerf sojourn
Bro what? Bastions farms me when I play support.
It makes no sens to do a tier list for high rank and low rank in the meantime. We can see how uncomfortable you are to define this list depending on the rank.
I'm plat and I often see widow or sojurn players ruining a game as they can't hit HS. While with soldier or ash for example, their Ultimate require no aim to kill.
I would really recommend to make 2 tier lists.
Every hero is a "weird one" LOL
ash widow soj ash widow soj ash widow soj ash widow soj (with the same pictures every time) ash widow soj ash widow soj ash widow soj
What is pocket or pocket meta? I keep hearing pocket
And dive
basically a mercy will pocket a certain hero constantly healing them and damage boosting them making that hero being boosted hard to kill and allowing them to do more damage, dive comp are the heroes that are considered flankers like tracer, sombra, reaper, winston, genji basically the job of dive heroes are to be in your face or diving lonely targets out of position, hence the name dive comp. however, this comp (at least at the moment) usually requires a lot of coordination due to the lack of damage you’ll be dealing( unless ur reaper which does a lot of damage but requires you to be really in their face)
Can someone explain what dude means by "pocketed"?
You have a dedicated support helping them, usually Mercy who can heal and damage boost them.
Buff genji
3:03
I’m tired of sojourn mercy when will high elo be fun
Mcree
forgot to rank zen.
Reaper is overpowered asf....tbh...get soo many kills with him just picking off players.
Not to mention when ur low health u can just vanish away.
I hate: expecialy genji in Low elo. If U Not a mechanicly god its is not better in Low elo!! Genji need a Lot of peal from hes team to finish a kill ( 1v1 bad If U Not 1 shot them with every hit in the head). U simply didnt get it in Low elo..or do U think moira heals u at range or ana hit the shots?
In short, every dps is in a weird place right now. Play support
You don’t sound like you are in a good mood. You okay?
Just recorded late when tired haha 😴
I love seeing sombra so low ngl
I don’t think bastion is D tier he’s not good or bad he’s just ok I definitely don’t think he’s worst then Cassidy or Genji
Echo is S tier lmao. She's the best anti-tank dps.
This is gonna sound like a bronze comment 😂
But I think bastion is better than genji
@@Sizzyl Genji also loses to anyone with a laser weapon
Sym, Moira, Zarya (granted, Zarya is a tank anyway) can kill him no problem if he gets close enough. The number of genjis that have tried to deflect laser beams are funny as
@@Sizzyl well then ig I haven't faced a smart genji yet
lol, why tier list now when hog balance isnt out yet?
its a dps tier list, hog isnt involved so why would that matter?
@@aqu434 cuz counters, dps and support they all matter
Going on 9-1 today, 9 in a row. Using Hanzo and Junkrat 🤣🤣 I've hate who I've become
What was Blizzards product team thinking when they put Soujourn in. I swear, OW needs some new product people so that the devs can be told to make something that is actually semi balanced.
Bastion is much better then this guy says, Mecree is one of the worst. This list is has some very questionable placements
echo is the best character thx god people are sleeping on her im new to the game and im shredding people with my sticky bomb beam combo then just fly and repeat
pocket pocket pocket pocket pocket pocket pocket pocket
Im confused by this list echo and sombra have been the biggest headaches to deal with lol
genji is on c tier!?!?!?!! he needs a nerf
You guys get pocketed? I just get stupid e girls on moira zen or Lucio doing fuck all 24/7 fishing for dudes or something. Usin ow as tinder fr weird
Tracer is not S tier
yoo
Cassidy is TERRIBLE
As a cass main he needs a dire buff
Sombra is not underpowered
Ur playing a different game
Reaper should be in a trash can rn, no reason to pick him anymore
You misspelled Cassidy.
@@juhosaarenpaa7727 you misspelled Mcree
@@misterdeer5261 Well, the cowboy dude anyway. He's definitely worse than Reaper now.
@@juhosaarenpaa7727 doubt it, he is weak for sure but it doesn't feel that horrible to play
GOD loves you enough to send HIS only SON to save you and if you repent and turn from your sins and be baptized in THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT. ((if you haven't )
Just delete or dumpster sojourn it would instantly make the game better. Nobody plays her bc they think she’s cool
How do you counter a good widow
personally id say go sombra or lucio, maybe even tracer, but it depends on your skill with them, especially lucio
@@galcaticmonkeys solid with tracer sombra haven’t played much because of situational but appreciate the feedback
echo is heavily underarted u can shred people and she can fly to widow and one shot her easily her sticky bombs beam combo can one shot all characters beside tanks
@@skullreda2762 yeah problem is I’m on controller bro lol flying is button mapped awful
@@johnnoah8613 ah yes i heard she's hard on controller im on pc maybe that's why I find her not hard